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I smell another existential crisis incoming...
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#deltarune#undertale#deltarune fanart#undertale fanart#crossover#utdr#crossover comic#twin runes#twin runes au#akanemnon#my art#kris dreemurr#deltarune susie#frisk#congrats susie#now YOU broke the child#seems like that “concussion” did a little more damage as expected#classic protagonist with amnesia#but something about that seems to resonate with kris...
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God I have so much to say about Melinoe's characterization, and the fasinating implications about her future arc/the overarching plot of hades 2. I want to make a larger think piece with pictures but for the moment I'm just going to focus on this one specific thread.
In the wake of the Prometheus reveal, she has a slew of convos about his motivations for siding with Chronos, and the gods basically all go: this is his vengeance for us punishing him a tad cruelly. And Nemesis is like, yeah the gods 100% deserve it. But Meli's responds that he must have more motivation than just vengeance, it can't just be that. But when Prometheus explicitly goes, 'I'm doing this because the gods are horrible to humanity and I love humans,' she basically goes, no he must be lying. That motivation is both too pure, but also humans kind of suck why would you care about them?
Mel's humanity hot takes deserve it's own essay (Ms I think Humans should have never gotten fire and are better when they are dead), and I just want to focus on the former for now. She can not comprehend that Prometheus is fighting the gods for noble reasons. It just does not make sense to her. Mel's world is so black and white. She doesn't understand the nuance of the situation, and the thought that the gods might be actually in the wrong doesn't even get close to crossing her mind.
It's a fascinating (and horrifying) result of her upbringing. Of the constant state of war and the very convenient big bad that is Chronos, the evil monster who stole her family. If she accepts that his side isn't completely evil, that they might even be right in some (even many) respects, she would have to grapple with her whole life. Everything she believes would be thrown into question, the literal thing she was training her whole life for.
She can't have Prometheus fighting for a noble cause, because he fights for Chronos whose the Bad Guy tm. But he also can't be fighting for something as simple as vengeance, because that would also mean she would need to really think about what he's angry about. If the punishment was truly so unnecessary cruel.
When talking to Odysseus about Prometheus, when Ody's saying how much he respected him for stealing the fire despite knowing the consequences, Mel says that it was the price to be paid for breaking Olympus's decree. To her, Olympus's rules are sacred and ultimately good. Unquestionably. Prometheus broke the rules with intent, so to her, why would he be so angry at the consequences? Especially if he knew because of his power they were going to happen.
So he must have another reason, some secret machiavellian plan that drives him. Except as I already said, it brings her right back to him doing it for humanity, which she also can't accept. Because that would be admiting that the gods did something wrong to humans. She twists herself into knots to justify her worldview, and it's fascinating! She's so messy I adore her.
Please Supergiant please the final surface boss has to be a human pleeeaaasse (preferably a living one). Or at least have one (or more) show up in some other capacity. Mel needs to come face to face with the other side and have it utterly destroy her worldview.
And/or have (Pan)Dora betray her for Prometheus, that would also be very fun haha.
#hades 2#hades 2 spoilers#hades game#melinoe#Prometheus#hades#she just! tears into her#this girl can fit so much isolated child soldier trauma in her#with a dash of autism and being one of the ruling class to really have it blow up#i adore how messed up she is!#how everything that breaks her simple worldview she either brushes aside the importance of it#or just totally ignores it#ill admit while ive always liked her#i did prefer Zag as a protagonist#but now i think if supergiant pulls this off and gives her the character arc she deserves#im going to prefer her#shes just so flawed and blah ive gone on long enough haha
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It irritates me alot when people say that making medic more compassionate is ''missing the point of his character'' when he is literally shown to be in the comics.... did you miss the part where he showed concern for both sniper and miss pauling's well being in comic 5 and 6.
His actions are a combination of genuine attachment + clinical interest and these things do not cancel out one another. He is always pushing boundaries and going against the grain and i think this is what led to him losing his license in the first place. He felt stifled by the rules imposed on him.
He is shown to be extremely passionate so it makes sense that he would use his endless fascination with medicine as a way to show his affection. He loves his friends so he will find a way to make them borderline indestructible. Malpractice is his love language.
#it makes me really angry how adamant some people are against exploring his sweeter side beyond just ''heehoo evil doctor''#idk how to tell you that giving a character a wider range of complexities and oftentimes contradicting traits#does not equal 'woobification'. him being friendly social and cheerful and fascinated with the world around him (which he canonically is)#is not the same thing as writing him as a helpless softboy. those two things do not correlate#he was visibly worried when sniper wanted to get back in the fight!#it's so abundantly clear that medic just misses social cues and doesn't always react accordingly#plus his quote unquote evilness is a joke it's not. something that is meant to be taken seriously#he's more comparable to a saturday morning cartoon villain except he is a protagonist#the way he approaches medicine to me is very similiar to#a child playing potions if that makes sense. he is throwing shit together to see what sticks#and having fun with it#i might rewrite this later to be more coherent because i have alot of thoughts on him that are jumbled together#and there is so much to say abt him#also i find it so funny how inconsistent he is. he tells them they all hallucinated before brain death#yet he personally went to hell multiple times. why did he do that#tf2#medic#tf2 medic#medic tf2#team fortress 2
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respost separated from the og post bc I really liked this silly little thing I made
And a little extra of my own
little binghe has a goal in this life and it only gets worse once he mets sqq, no one dares to threaten his position as sqq's future wife, he literally was born to be his spouse!!
#scum villain's self saving system#svsss#sillies#bingqiu#人渣反派自救系统#svsss fanart#luo binghe#shen qingqiu#tianlang jun#I like to think little bunhe asked his father to let him write letters to his misterious future husband#to get to know him more before their wedding#and tlj hopeless romantic that he is of course says yes#zzl! go for a reliable mailman of the court!#so one day sqq still is on the way to become peak lord and start recieving letters apparently from tlj's child???#so weird but eeh its okay its a way to check on how the protagonist is doing!#so he displays his full autistic caring mother rizz on those letters#and binghe swoons everytime he reads his poetry#and his tales about monsters and artifacts and some weird stories sqq makes up for him#(he is telling him about anime)#idiots in love#binghe thinks they are courting from distance#sy thinks he has a very adorable pen pal#sxy is in the corner probably keeping an eye on everthing to be sure her son is safe#tlj is living this arranged marriage like a telenovela
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The holy quartet of video game narrators which are actually living beings (...and also kinda suck)
#slay the princess#undertale#the stanley parable#little misfortune#stp narrator#chara dreemurr#tsp narrator#mr voice#I love this trope#love when the one telling the story is stuck within it#love when the narrative itself is alive and malicious#and I love lemony snicket and pseudonymous bosch#...but there's something about the way it can be used in a video game#where the narrator/protagonist relationship can be more personal#also lemony is far nicer than anyone here (from what I can remember)#hey look! I did a thing#fucked up video game narrators>>>>>>#what a strange child...
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When you look at older media you see so many more protagonists in their 40s or 50s or older, even like grizzled bearded old men as the main adventurer. I even see stories from like the 20s where it's written like a young hero is a wacky twist or novelty. I think we should bring that back. We should make like 33 the baseline age for main characters on cool adventures instead of the 13 or 16 it currently is. Let babies stay home and finish baby school first
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the catholic rejection of it all
#one piece#op#trafalgar law#monkey d. luffy#gear 5 luffy#song is big god by florence and the machine#religious symbology? in my shounen anime protagonist? it's more likely than you think#im 24 years old it's the end of 2023 it's MY turn to finally make a cringe amv for christmas#to be clear. i dont think law sees luffy as his god. but i definitely think he's helped law regain some faith#i.e. catholicism (yeah hardy-hah one piece character is an ex-catholic its all very silly but let's take it unironically for a second)#it would've drilled into law as a child to believe in one true cause (that cause being god). and that will supposedly carry him through lif#give hope purpose etc. but a lot of former catholics choose instead to find that in something else. in law’s cause:#the freedom and hope corasan gave him#the freedom that luffy brings. the will of D. the goodness in the people around him#it's a transfer of faith that feels real and tangible#it's a neat concept and I don't see it talked about much#CJ's op watch-through#corasan#donquixote rosinante#sun god nika#CJ's edits#op analysis#amv
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do people who have listened to taz balance but not graduation Know that it was HEAVILY IMPLIED that lup and barry eventually adopted a lil sorcerer child who got disowned by his family for his natural necromancy magic, and they taught him how to use his powers for good and were overall great parents that he looks back on fondly
(and said child grew up to be a dimension-hopping lich, caretaker of the dead, and very sweet adoptive father of a major npc)
#eliot posts#taz#the adventure zone#taz balance#taz graduation#lup taaco#barry bluejeans#blupjeans#like they never specifically say ''my parents are barry and lup'' so it's left up to interpretation but#he says he came from another world other than nua (nua is the name of the grad world like faerun is the balance world)#he says both his parents were highly skilled necromancers that ''travelled'' a lot because of their work#he says that inter-planar travel runs in the family#and he likes to bake#also travis apparently said on a livestrean that he got something carved by magnus for his daughter#it's a fun little easter egg for balance enjoyers but kept vague enough where it's like. you don't have to know about balance to enjoy it#anyway tho it's adorable cuz he talks about how much of a positive impact his parents made on him#and how he wanted to emulate them when raising his own daughter#and he's a good dad and his daughter loves him (also she is an absolute delight i love her#and like the only older adult to look at our college-aged protagonists and be like#''yeah it's messed up that you have to deal with all of this you're so young you're the same age as my child i will help however i can''#like balance easter egg aside gordy is one of my fav graduation npcs (behind his daughter rainer who is my fav)
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Human fear is the window to the soul or whatever ://
#digital art#tropical's art#art#cw eyestrain#high contrast#eye strain#collinlock16#Ouuugh Zander oouuugh AwesomeG they were just kids man like broooo (Morbius too I guess that minimum wage worker)#I hope more horrors come I hope Hungry eats more children alive and Souler eats more child souls#Hungry just letting AwesomeG beg for forgiveness after asking him if he believes in god gets to me for some reason#Also I_AM_BIG_KEVIN is here#He DDOS'es soon after this#As per the video#Bro was set up by Souler but had a secret technique (“fuck you DDOS!”)#Also Souler cannot get to Collin#He's too tired#So it can't get to his soul via fear#I just realized in the part 2 of colin's thing he tells Souler to fuck off in the beginning animation#Tbh real#Minecraft ARGs but they call Kevin#minecraft arg but the protagonist is tired#I like this series very much and a normal amount :]#The amount of newspaper articles I had to download for Kevin is too many#I also made them related to what he does/his video because why not man#Also there's no way that BigK (he debunked Zander's herobrine sighting) isn't I_AM_BIG_KEVIN and that Zander's disappearance sparked his#Interest in the paranormal#Leading to his paranormal mercenary job#Also shoutouts to the total of 2 (I know there's more lol) fellow Oneshef Minecraft ARG fans out here#We need more people watching this it's good and funny and terrifying and it loves and hates the state of Minecraft ARGs and the universe#Said I love you or whatever
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I WANT TO LIVE
I WANT TO BE FREE
EVEN IF IM WEAK
I LOVE ONE PIECE
I LOVE MEGUMI ISHITANI
I LOVE THE STRAWHATS
I AM GENUINELY DEVASTATED
YET SO FULL OF HOPE AND LOVE
MOOTS YOU WERE RIGHT
WHAT THE FUCK
#chia rambles#one piece#one piece fan letter#op fan letter#JESUS FUCKING CHRIST#YOU GUYS WERENT KIDDING THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING#I CRIED#I CRIED SO HARD#FUCK OFF#SHES JUST LIKE ME SHES JUST LIKE ME FR#I WOULD HAVE KILLED TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE NAMI’S FAN AS A PROTAGONIST AS A CHILD#OHHHHH MY GOD
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I think my favorite flavor of protagonist is "The world is soso big and soso scary, and I am small and much MUCH scarier."
#'Small child takes on the world. The world flinches.'#some of my favorite examples are#ender lilies#ender magnolia#hollow knight#god eater#though it's not the protagonist in God Eater
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Just a reminder that Nakajima Atsushi of Bungou Stray Dogs is my special guy, and anyone who says he's a bad protagonist and/or that the protagonist should've been Dazai can catch the pointy end of my sword.
idc if you think he's annoying. If Dazai were the protagonist(and I say this as a huge Dazai fan) I guarantee people would find him annoying. Because people are never pleased and need something to bitch about.
Atsushi is messy, he is a bitch, he is morally grey, he is kind, he's a kid and his world is constantly falling down around him. And he is the best choice for bsd's protagonist.
#Just god damn#he's a good protagonist#i dont understand why people hate him so much#“His flashbacks are annoying and repetitive!” he was tortured as a child.#istg its like people dont understand that childhood trauma can affect you in your adult life#and even then When bsd started. the age of majority was 20 it was only lowered to 18 in 2022#meaning that Atsushi as the story started was still a child!#i am just so tired of people acting like any protag that isnt squeaky clean and Moral Goodness is a bad mc#bsd#bungou stray dogs#Vera rants about their fave media(s)#bsd atsushi#Atsushi Defense Squad
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Hello lover of "Alice in Wonderland" and all its subsequent iterations, in front of you there's a child protagonist who is frustrated with arbitrary rules and is starting to question authority.
If you manage not to say she's annoying for at least half an hour we can go and get ice cream, since you're such a well behaved person who always follows the rules
#why oh why#it's like clockwork#I'm cranky today but why#every fourth take about a child protagonist i see is about how they're annoying for not following the rules#and then immediately you find out they looooove alice in Wonderland
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Shang Qinghua really does think that he is unlovable huh
He really thinks that he is of no value to anyone if he isn't making himself useful he will be disposed off and that will be it
He genuinely believes no would ever want him so he manipulate and posture as a lesser so to be seen as a necessary annoyance rather than the pest he believes himself to be
He hates all the work he has to do but he prefers exhaustion to the paranoia and anxiety that eat him up when he isn't showcasing his value
He is in a constant battle just to be acceptable rather than loved so he can just be in the presence of those who are dear to him
Like damn like father like son I can see where binghe got all his issues like airplane bro stop unloading it all on your OCs look you gave the poor dear anxiety
#sqh child of divorce#svsss#shang qinghua#actually this was part of my grand scheme to formulate that everything is cumplane but like it became its own thing#i was gonna relate it to#moshang#i was trying to say that bingqiu and moshang relationship hangups are similar#like mobei jun is repressing his feelings and believes that someone like him doesn't fall in love with a human or a servant or a lil rat#he internalized how he should and shouldn't act to be socially acceptable like sqq#and like he's difficult to read in general and refuses to talk about his feelings that also he doesn't understand#sqq and mbj both have sinuous minds that defy the mortal's comprehension#anyway#cumplane agenda#sqh: i made a power fantasy!#(cucumber voice): you fucked up a perfectly good protagonist is what you did! look at it it got anxiety!#sqh: well see thats what some would call a self insert#like sqh making memes about isn't making it better but i guess it's maybe better then bottling it all up#sqh got so much of his validation from his readers#so for sy to actually *see* him to criticize him to believe in him to know how good he can be#he doesn't even realize it#that does something sqh's lizard brain
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my biggest gripe with the manhwa rn is that they made javier more of an asshole than he is in the novel and then took away most of the scenes where we see him being kind and soft with others.
javier can be an ass, he is a brat and he's especially annoying when he's with lloyd, but above anything else he is kind and loyal and selfless and good. i cannot emphasize enough how good javier is. he's the kind of person who cannot see someone in trouble or danger and do nothing about it. he's the kind of person who would sacrifice his life for total strangers and no hope of any reward. he's the kind of person who can't even enjoy a lavish party without feeling guilty because he'd much rather help people in need with that money.
he's so fucking good, lloyd is a little annoyed by it because he keeps getting dragged into life-threatening situations because javier just won't stop helping people they don't even know. mind you, lloyd is also endeared by this and would not want him to change but god can it be frustrating in his endeavor to keep them both alive.
there's this particular scene that i just. i'm so sad it was cut. where javier is helping around the refugee camp, going without sleeping and eating so he can focus on helping as many people as possible and then he spots a little kid that got lost on his way back. so he decides to help him.
and he's so gentle with this kid.
Javier walked over to the kid and called him. The flustered boy looked up. Javier strove to put on a warm smile on his face. "Are you lost?" “...” The boy nodded, his eyes all wet. Javier carefully stroked the boy's head. "I think I can help you with that. Why don't you let me help find your tent?" suggested Javier. “...” The boy nodded again. "But why didn't you eat the food? It's going to get cold. Are you not hungry?" "I am… hungry," the boy finally said. But what he said next caught Javier by surprise. "But I won't eat it," said the boy. "Why not?" "My mother is hungrier." "Is that so?" "Yes." “...” Javier wondered why this kid came out to take the food when he had a mother. There must be a reason, he thought to himself. He held out his hand. "I will hold the tray for you." "..." "I won't spill it. I promise." "Okay..." Javier took the tray and wrapped the boy’s hand with his own.
like. god. javier is not a naturally warm person. he's very reserved and stoic and sometimes outright cold, but he still tries so hard with this kid. because he knows what it's like to be him. he knows what it's like to be a child and be scared and hungry and without a home. and he remembers how much it meant for a kind adult to reach out a hand to him and help. and he wants to be that to others too.
everything he does, he does because he genuinely believes it's the right thing to do and therefore his obligation. and even when it doesn't come naturally to him, like being warm and gentle to a child, he still tries his best to do so.
and like that wasn't enough, when they finally find the kid's mom, javier finds out she's blind. recently blinded actually. that she used all her strength to get her child to safety and now she has to depend on him to take care of them because she can't do it anymore. her blouse is smudged with porridge.
so javier kneels down and explains who he is, why he's there and that he wants to help. he lifts up a spoonful of food and slowly and carefully starts to feed her himself. she's a complete stranger and javier doesn't hesitate one second to do this for her.
this is who javier is!! this is who he is at his core!! he's kind and he's selfless and he's above all else good!!
if your audience can't imagine javier comforting a child, then you failed your audience. you missed the point of his character.
#i talk a lot <3#tged#the greatest estate developer#ch 127#javier asrahan#sorry i have a lot of feelings about javier and how fucking good he is despite being constantly shoved into his role as badass protagonist#the world wants him to be the knight of blood and iron so bad but he's a kid whose world fell apart when he was a child#and then received kindness for kindness sake and he has never forgotten this.#he will always try to be the helping hand that he received from someone else first#HE'S A BRAT BUT ONLY WHEN HE'S WITH LLOYD. THAT'S BEST FRIEND PRIVILEGE BITCH.#and even with lloyd it's meant to be proof of his trust and closeness to him!! it's meant to reflect how javier doesn't feel the need#to be perfect and always in control with lloyd!! how he trusts him with the annoying and whiny and mean parts of him!!#there's a point to their banter and their bitchiness to each other!! he's not an asshole just because!!#also i've decided i dislike that they made him so expressive. he Would Not Say That. nor would he make that face.#when lloyd can tell what javier is feeling it's supposed to be special because no one else can.#no one else gets to know javier like lloyd does. THIS IS A BIG POINT OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP HOLY SHIT HOW CAN YOU MISS IT.#i'm fine. i'm good. i'm normal about this.
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Granted I never finished my little pony or even got to cozy glow at all but I see people complain about how she "didnt deserve her fate" bc she was "literally a child" and I feel like its missing how the target audience are also children. Like a 9 year old isnt gonna see cozy glow as "a small baby child who was never given room to redeem herself, she shouldn't have been turned to stone like the other villains" they're gonna see her as "just like that mean girl in school who always picks on me and never gets in trouble for it because the teachers like her, I'm GLAD she got turned to stone! FUCK tiffany!"
#text#in general for childrwns shows or books or what have you#you shouldnt use the 'omg theyre only children...' excuse unless it is actually used in the text#bc the target demo isnt gonna think 'theyre only children' theyre gonna think 'theyre just like me!'#its like whenever there are child protagonists saving the world and adult fans say 'omg theyre child soldiers...'#like its okay if thats what you get from an adult reading but i think you should acknowledge how its SUPPOSED to be for the kid target demo#who will see it and think 'wow that girl is my age (or a couple years older) and doing all sorts of exciting things!'#and then they hope they get to go on an adventure some day#tldr. theres nothing wrong with engaging with art for a younger age range from the pov of an adult#but i think we can ALL get a bit too ahead of ourselves sometimes and forget that it was written for children#and the big bad is supposed to be equivalent to a childs school bully or maybe a slightly grouchy grandma
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