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I do feel like part of the problem with fallen london's writing is that many christians and many cultural christians don't understand that it is in fact offputting to constantly have it assumed, forced upon you, and just the constant pervasiveness of the christian ideology acting like no other ideology exists. having the bible quoted to you in a game is not exactly fun? for a lot of people? and will severely turn off some of those who might otherwise enjoy the story?
this is specifically an issue in a roleplaying game, where you are playing as your own character, from your own pov, and the story acts as if there's only one background you could possibly be - as if there's only one view of text and story that matters. one story after the next, from the latest big story, to the latest ES, and even Mask of the rose's assumptions of the player character and the heavily church centered plot, it just keeps happening over and over again with the constant focus on christanity without any other even slight options.
in a game with a set protagonist this wouldnt be as big of a deal - or even one that straight up says theyre only writing for specific people, if that was admitted. I would just know from the get go not to play it. instead of this halfway point and wishy washy.
theres been some really great points of aknowledgment and feedback response, with the freehold and city in silver portion, but it seems any time a step forward is made, the game doubles down in its assumptions the next time around.
I don't know. maybe the game just isn't made for people like me. perhaps i've been unrealistic in what i want from it. perhaps im simply not what is wanted within the audience.
#i dont know i geniuenly feel like the game doesnt want me here sometimes...#[and to be completely frank#this is not just an issue of the game writing itself but within fan spaces too. of people being totally unable to imagine the way others wo#or the concept never even occuring to them. being unable to understand why this would bother people so much.]#anyway this is the last post im gonna make on the topic for a little bit unless otheewise prompted. ive got art to draw for the month XD#just wanted to summarize my thoughts#fallen london#fl crit
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idk it sounds reasonable to me for a teenager to run away bc they didn't want to eat their veggies!
one hopes that by the later stages of childhood a parent will have figured out which veggies and preparation styles work for the kid, and the kid will have resigned themself to what they do and don't have to eat according to their parents, and it's all settled into an equilibrium instead of a daily fight. and hopefully as a teen your palette is expanding and you're even willing to eat more veggies then you did as a child.
however, if the kid is extra picky and stubborn, and the parent is extra determined to make sure they eat a good variety (or just eat whatever the parent prepared no matter what it is), it could absolutely continue to be a regularly-repeated fight. and if something is a continued point of contention throughout childhood then it absolutely makes sense for a teen to go FUCK this, i am nearly an ADULT i am done being told to eat my veggies i am gonna prove my independence and make them realize i don't have to just sit there and let them boss me around!!
like, the childishness of the fight is exactly why a teen would run away about it.
#i'm so picky and only got pickier throughout my teen years#i usually just made myself a separate quick meal when i didn't like dinner#if my parents hadn't let me and had tried to insist i eat the same thing as everyone else?#well. idk what i woulda done bc that would require they have an entirely different parenting style overall.#so who knows what kind of person i would be lol#but leaving the house for a couple hours seems pretty reasonable to me#but it's also normal for a parent to have an 'everyone sits at the table and eats what i've prepared' rule#for a variety of reasons ranging from well-meaning to self-centered#and i'm sure there are parents who will even try to foist the same old veggie rules upon adult children visiting for the holiday#i think 'what's the latest age at which a veggie fight might occur' says more about the parents than the kid#since they're the one turning it into a fight instead of letting it go#so ig if you want them to be closer to model parents then sif would have to be pretty young#but i think 'the type of parent to never stop arguing about veggies' is an interesting flaw to add#to make a parent who is loving and wonderful overall but has their own blind spots and mixed up priorities#isat spoilers#isat#siffrin#I UNDERSTAND WHY people think sif must be young and i'm fine w that#this is just my perspective :)#thoughts about siffrin#thoughts
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On the topic of Declare:
A little while ago, on a whim, I prompted several different chat LLMs with a line from the Arabian Nights that has special importance in the novel:
O fish, are you constant to the old covenant?
In the book, this is used as a sign between members of a secret group, and there's a canned response that members are meant to give to identify themselves. (Like "I like your shoelaces" / "Thanks, I stole them from the President.").
I thought it'd be funny and impressive if one of these models responded with the canned phrase from Declare: that would have demonstrated both a command of somewhat obscure information and a humanlike ability to flexibly respond to an unusual input in the same spirit as that input.
None of the models did so, although I was still impressed with Gemini's reaction: it correctly sourced the quote to Arabian Nights in its first message, and was able to guess and/or remember that the quote was also used in Declare in follow-up chat (after a few wrong guesses and hints from me).
On the other hand, GPT-4 confidently stated that the quotation was from Jubilate Agno, a real but unrelated book:
When I asked Claude 3, it asserted that the line was from a real-but unrelated-poem called "The Fish," then proceeded -- without my asking -- to quote (i.e make up) a stanza from its imagined version of that poem:
It is always discomfiting to be reminded that -- no matter how much "safety" tuning these things are put through, and despite how preachy they can be about their own supposed aversion to "misinformation" or whatever -- they are nonetheless happy to confidently bullshit to the user like this.
I'm sure they have an internal sense of how sure or unsure they are of any given claim, but it seems they have (effectively) been trained not to let it influence their answers, and instead project maximum certainty almost all of the time.
#ai tag#(it's understandable why this would occur)#(it's hard to make instruction tuning data that teaches the model to sound unsure iff it's really unsure)#(because it's hard to know in advance - or ever - what exactly the model does or doesn't know)#(but i'd imagine the big labs are working on the problem and i'm surprised they haven't gotten further by now)
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I feel like if Chujin was still alive during the events of Undertale Yellow, his and Clover's relationship would be incredibly rocky. Pacifist!Clover could bring him around to tolerating them (after all, they have that sort of effect on everyone), but it would be more in a "this human is the only 'good' human" manner than a "maybe I should reevaluate my opinions on humans overall because you can't judge an entire group based off (very biased) stories and one bad experience." Even then, that opinion would be subject to change should Clover ever get frustrated or behave "too aggressively" or act in any manner that isn't perfectly docile. If Clover ends up attacking a monster then it's "humans are just as horrible as they were in the war stories, I should've known better" regardless of the circumstances that could've pushed Clover to fight. Suffocating expectations and endless demands for patience when he wouldn't ask the same of a fellow monster.
And heaven forbid he ever meet Clover on a No Mercy Run...
#undertale yellow#i hc that his parents were involved in the war and he was born after monsters were sealed underground#so he's one degree removed from all that trauma which is understandable why he'd be so afraid#but at the same time Blackjack had similar circumstances and he came around to liking clover and judging based on character#instead of by who someone is.#sometimes you need to sit down and realize that the problem is you and your views instead of everyone else but he doesn't strike#me as the sort to do that type of self reflection.#Chujin is a character who is absolutely ruled by his fear. he leaves kanako and dalv alone after they were attacked by a human#to sicc axis on integrity. he hinged his whole career on building guard robots (and judging by some of the paperwork in the Steamworks#he was the only one who wanted to build guard robots).#he destroyed his health and left his wife a widow/his child fatherless to craft a serum to defeat humans.#he experimented on a human (child's!!!!) soul and ordered his wife to k.ill an INNOCENT human.#he literally says that humans are incapable of decency in any form!!!!! the writing is on the wall!!!!!#not to sound like I'm bashing on his character because he did do a lot of good for the underground. he made the honeydew resort heater#and Martlet's balcony. and it's implied he built the bridge between the wild east and Starlo's family's farm with the fox-bell#symbol on that bridge. he inspired martlet to take up woodwork which put her on the path to joining the Royal Guard and meeting clover#he likely did a bunch of other good things as well that never got brought up. he did do some good actions.#but he is not someone that i would call a good person.#(realized i ended up with a long string of tags down here. if someone wants to screenshot it and add it to the post go for it)#edit: i find it utterly fascinating that he calls humans incapable of decency yet acknowledges that there can be a pure human SOUL#what an utter hypocrite! i doubt the contradiction ever even occurred to him!
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y'all have gotta learn to act normal about other people's characters
just bc you think they're hot doesn't mean the person who made them wants to know if, or how, you'd fuck them. i feel like that's common sense. it doesn't make it OK now just because it's not a real person you're sexualizing. you don't know what they mean to the person who made them, and if you do, well what the fuck, then.
#please excuse me i've just noticed really often lately#the way people will comment nasty nasty stuff on art and i have to wonder like#are you sure that the artist is cool w/ that? are you sure already that the person who owns or made that character is cool with that?#idk i had to watch a couple people oversexualize the characters from a friend's very personal & emotional game they made about trauma#i posted a turnaround of a model i did for a friend in a discord server and someone called it “the boykisser” just bc it was a cat?#like. do you know who the character is? do you know who owns the character? do you understand the context they're from?#if not. why would you say that to/about them.#ik those instances occured on their own and don't really warrant a whole post#but I've been seeing some REALLY uncomfy comments thrown at people's art every here and there#and i think some of y'all are forgetting how to behave for real.#this post & tags are a little half-baked i'm just kinda sick of seeing it. be normal. leave a nice comment or something
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the mfers too stupid to use their goddamn brains and are instead blaming third party voters when Harris would NOT have won even if every single third party voter in the swing states went to her just shows how stupid you bitches be and refuse to ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A PARTY DELIBERATELY ALLOWING A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO CONTROL THEM IS THE FUCKING ISSUE THAT LEAD TO THIS LOSS
do some goddamn math with the data IN FRONT OF YOU TO SEE ITS NOT THE THIRD PARTY VOTERS BUT THE LIBS AND DEMS ALIENATION OF PPL CARING FOR HUMAN RIGHTS THAT LEAD TO THIS LOSS
#I’m on mobile and work a full time job with two kids to take care of but would give you fucking tables of this data if that will help your#empty heads process it but if you look at ANY ELECTORAL MAP OF THE FUCKING VOTES YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE ITS HARRIS AND THE DEMS AT FAULT IF YOU#if you understand or hold any sort of basic empathy and instead of wishing death or poor health on the people who voted (or not at all) for#conscious given how you mfers are currently run by a DEM majority who allowed the leveling off of Gaza AND NOW THE GREATER MIDDLE EAST that#maybe you’d understand that YOU and your loser ass party is the reason for this loss#the fact that this loser ass party never stops the gerrymandering that occurs nationwide; the fact that this loser ass party refused to#codify roe v wade; the fact that this loser ass party half assed barely attempted to eliminate the student debt and even then not at all#really; it’s the fact that Dems pitch themselves as the moral one then laugh when someone asks why the WH refuses to stop the fucking CRATER#SIZED HOLES ISNOTREAL HAS CREATED IN GAZA that lost the Dems not the abstainers not the third parties but the lack of empathy and humility#in the party’s leadership that they couldn’t even LIE in the days leading up to the election to try and sway the vote#you fucking bitching cunts BETTER be protesting otherwise you have done nothing but LIED abt what u lib ass losers stand for#I’m abt to start looking into what pro RCV orgs I’ve got near me to put that shit on a ticket as many times as possible until it’s approved#so third parties slowly get a fucking chance u lil whining punching down racist cunts
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6/11 • Day 3 • Celebration
I Think We Might Be Friends -- Level 40 Convo, featuring my Summoner, Moe! (Uses it/it's pronouns!)
Aka what happens when a mirror reflects a mirror. But like with one of those funhouse mirrors that distort your image. Wouldn't that be fucked up or what
Also also just. Sharena bestie you have me BEWILDERED. I remember so distinctly when I got her 40 convo, waayy back before I had a good read on her character... it struck me, stuck with me for years. I think I finally understand, now, though.
Some close ups of my fave shots!
Also! Coloring this was a last-minute impulse decision, which thankfully paid off! I was sooooo scared though ESP of not making time after. ALL OF THIS TIME. So I took pics beforehand too!
With... kind of inconsistent lighting LMFAO 🧍 I feel like this version has a nice effect too, but! It was important to me to show Moe in full-color, here. Similar, but in opposite directions...
@sharenaweek
#sharenaweek2024#fire emblem#feh#i understand why animation errors occur now. if you notice any wonkiness no you didn't LMFAOOO#THSI WAS..... SUUUUUUCH AN EXPERIENCE THOUGH ........ and i've been WANTING to do this FOR YEARS TBH#she threw me for a loop SO SEVERELY in the beginning. and it just Stuck w me.#what they don't tell you is sharena has a front she wants you to fall for too. but she doesn't even realize she does it...#and i think that's a huge difference between her and al and her and moe. those two are extremely intentional.#sharena... i just get the sense she's desperately trying to just get something to work.#like to me. she's got a case of autistic masking so severe it's hard to see her under there.#but she's trying SO hard. to be herself. but bc of that masking... even though she's devastatingly sincere#she doesn't come off that way. which is why she's so hard to read. why some things feel forced.#why sometimes she comes off disingenuous when like. she couldn't be more genuine if she tried.#which is why she has/had so much trouble making connections esp early on. why her ties would look different than alfonse's#LIKE. v hc territory LMFAO but like. i feel like her character finally clicked for me when i realized#oh. she has trouble making friends too.#sharena#moe tag#summoner oc#my art#my comics
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I need to draw my sibling's reaction to the most recent dungeon meshi episode. Their face fucking dropped and we both got misty eyed lol.
#dungeon meshi#dunmeshi#dungeon meshi spoilers#dunmeshi spoilers#tommo.txt#ough it was such a good episode and I was so excited!!!! I forgot to warn them about it though. so it was my bad 😔#tbh I understand why they felt so shocked and why others probably did because even in the manga—#it was a gut punch to read. and even when I knew it would occur. I felt so much lol#ngl while I thought it a bit funny. I also feel really bad about not warning them.#I'll have to be extra mindful for the later bits in the series. like extra mindful because I am bad at remembering
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i rmr when all the initial meta around endgame was coming out people were talking about steve being depressed and whatnot and it's like well yeah but he's BEEN depressed, like he woke up alone in this century and he kept going, now i can understand it being worse this time after finding a family and getting bucky back and losing them all except of course that's not why endgame steve was on about so like......the people writing meta were trying to connect these things that of course weren't really there on screen because that simply wasn't our steve
but i think it really could've been SO interesting to see this is the thing that finally makes steve stay down like he's lost so much and he just CAN'T keep fighting like i get some people think that's what they were going for but considering the ending......it's really not. and so i'm just thinking about a version after iw, maybe he gets some of the thor treatment except not turning his depression into a dumb fatphobic joke lol and maybe nat and others are trying to get through to him and it just doesn't work and then we get some flashbacks (which you could have done for all the original avengers actually which would be particularly important for bruce and nat and clint who did not have their own trilogies) including his mom telling him "you always stand up" and THAT being the thing to finally get him moving like it would've been such a perfect way to finally show sarah rogers some respect and ACTUALLY show steve really struggling instead of whatever they tried to do with him in that movie
#steve rogers#mcu#anti endgame#why am i still rewriting this movie five years later#really though i think i rmr just trying to work through it all#and a lot of the meta i was reblogging initially still wasn't really accurate to endgame or the rest of the mcu#like they were still making steggy more important than it canonically was while trying to explain why it was a bad ending#and it's kind of like you can say steve would respect that peggy had a life and wouldn't interfere with it but that's about it like#going on about how he DID love her so much and just wouldn't be selfish enough to do those things#or that she was soooo important to his moral compass (hence why so many fic writers had her telling him to go back to bucky lol insanity)#are just not accurate lmao i do think much as she may be rightfully disliked#while canonically he did not LOVE her he did respect her even if we think that's annoying bc she's an asshole to him in catfa#but yeah no he had a moral compass before her i understand what people were going for with the compass being symbolic but like....#any time she said anything did he listen? except for maybe when she told him he was meant for more? it really doesn't seem like it#nor did he need it! jesus! the whole point of catfa is he was chosen for a REASON he was already a good man#he did not need peggy 'sure i'll let nazis into shield' carter to teach him shit#but yeah it was bc i followed one stucky blog at the time who was reblogging a lot of good shit but a lot of that nonsensical shit too#and i was just reblogging it all bc everything sounded better than endgame#and i really did start seeing more of the discussions around peggy where her culpability in catws hadn't even occurred to me#bc i was so in fic from the beginning of joining fandom that not only was their relationship made as impt as stucky#it was also made out like what happened to shield was hurting her legacy and it's like...but she had to have at least SOME responsibility#and yeah eventually it's like okay no it's not just that steve wouldn't Do That it's also that they would've been a terrible couple#and not only would he not be so selfish but he wouldn't give up everything for HER lmao but he would've for bucky as was shown over and ove
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thinking about rick admitting to only helping with the war because he wanted bp to respect him. and not realising the irony in admitting this and how it loses him that very respect
#WORST FUMBLE IN HISTORY.#birdrick#ok but genuinely. bp must REALLY care for rick to trust him still after like. EVERYTHING#i think they were close enough that bp can understand ricks motivation for doing things better than rick himself at times#(eg: rick not telling him abt his daughter)#so while bp may not agree with rick on a lot of things he still gets and respects Why rick does stuff#and same like vice versa#bp was able to put aside his hurt to tell rick to call him if he needs#and rick was able to root for bp at the wedding despite clearly hurting#etc etc#i think bp would have a good grasp on how rick could come to see everything as pointless#depsite not knowing abt the portal gun EXPLICITLY.#just as rick would have an understanding of why tammy and birddaughter mattered so much to bp#but i think rick gets wrapped up in himself a lot#him making like. the exact same mistake after reviving bp as at bloodridge is.. crushing#he just forgets. or like it doesnt occur to him in the moment that people might not want the same things as him#but ohhh man. it hurts so bad#rick doesnt hold any grudges toward bp it seems. like as much as he throws insults around all he ever does is try to support bp#like even w bloodridge it seems more that his avoidance was due to being embarrassed of what he did#BUT. memory rick thinking bp is the asshole. implying again bp thought at least for a while that rick rlly hated him for it#but yet they still consider each other their closest friend. and both love each other and would drop everything to help each other#fuck my life man. seriously#wtf was i talking abt. i forget im just rambling npw#ohhh they make me explode.
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Replaying My Time At Portia in hopes that Dr. Xu asks me out this time (some of you might know that I couldn't trigger the question with my first playground) and something just occurred to me-
Is there a possibility that the reason why I couldn't trigger this dialogue :
Is because I hired Ack? In stardew valley, if you don't want to romance/marry anyone, you can ask Krobus to be your roommate - hiring Ack is the equivalent of that???
I'm assuming that you can be married and still hire Ack. What I mean is that, perhaps, the confession doesn't trigger because that scene alone considers hiring Ack as a helper equivalent to dating someone. I don't know, that's why I am asking.
UPDATE : Nevermind, is not Ack's fault. Goddammit
#it just occurred to me#I truly do not understand why it didn't trigger in my first playground yk#That's the only explanation in mind. Besides a bug which would SUCK#Anyway Dr Xu romancers help me here. Is Ack's fault????#Ugh#my time at portia#mtap#my time at portia dr. xu#mtap dr. xu#mtap xu#my time at portia xu
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So I was thinking about Stain while making lunch, as is now apparently my wont, and I found myself wondering... we know Martingale ousted Joja, and presumably Pierre gets most if not all his fresh goods from him... so does Sebastian go out of his way to avoid buying Martingale's produce, or does he grit his teeth and accept it as an unfortunate but necessary evil for continuing to live in Pelican Town?
Hi hi hi,
So, Sebastian doesn't hate Martingale, and he has no reason to avoid his produce at all.
Sebastian is angry at Martingale, and exasperated with him, but he doesn't hate him. He did, but then he left the town, moved to Zuzu, saw a therapist, got over it, made an absolute mint, learned how to become an even better fighter, and came back with enough bank to build his own house and live his own kind of life.
He's the kind of guy who still has issues but has taken all the thorns out of that particular vine. And also, as we've seen, Sebastian has issues with himself in that relationship as much as he does with Martingale. He's said more and more that his relationship with Martingale wasn't as simple as Martingale just being evil or bad or mean, that it was a joint situation.
So yeah, Sebastian has... really no reason to avoid buying Martingale's produce, and also no reason to grit his teeth or even resent doing it.
I'd say he grows some of his own stuff (he does have a shipping bin, and he is in a section of mountain forest where he'd have arable land - I'd say Alex has never seen it because he only visits at night, and light pollution isn't really a thing), and also has no problems eating at the Stardrop Saloon, and otherwise keeps his fridge stocked via Pierre's.
Like, he knows better than anyone how much Martingale cares about his farm and how much work he's put into it. He was there when Martingale stayed up until 2.00am night after night, and he was there when Martingale nearly died trying to get enough iridium just to upgrade his sprinklers so he could have higher and higher quality goods. He knows he's getting the best, which matters to him.
And then on top of that, he's always been a big believer in fairly compensating someone for their work no matter how he feels about them. He started backing Alex in that long before he considered himself to be friendly towards Alex overall. In fact he was supportive of Alex getting paid better even when he still thought Alex was an active homophobe and bully!
So yeah, Sebastian can be immature in some ways, but that's not one of them!
(Also I feel like Sebastian is the kind of person who wants Martingale to know when he's pissed at him, and then the rest of the time is like 'well, that's a waste of my time.' lksfjas)
#asks and answers#a stain that won't dissolve#sdv sebastian x alex#thespectaclesofthor#thinking about this it was like#it didn't even occur to me that sebastian would get angry about this#the period of time where everything reminded him of martingale in a bad way#was when he left#he felt humiliated enough and he left#and then you know#sometimes in the process of leaving your hometown you grow up#and you realise that you were also a part of the reason why your marriage fell apart#and he came back still a bit unhappy about it#but also a lot more understanding of his own character flaws#i mean he has issues with demetrius and still lives incredibly close to the guy lsakdfjasfsa
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what if mash but they were severed
#forget i even spoke#im watching severenace again#my comfort show#thinking about hawkeye going insane being severed#railing against himself for choosing it#but being even madder bc he understands that really if he had the choice he would never want to remember the dying children#he had to put back together#and bj it just makes sense bc he decided he wouldnt let it change him#thinking about klinger trying to convince the brass that the severance procedure fucked up his brain and thats why he dresses like a woman#section 8 is rule of the severance procedure causing mental or physical injury#no proven cases of a section 8 actually occuring…#gah brain worms
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dad asking me about the manx gp earlier got me thinking about the body misidentification and incorrect death announcement which took days to correct back in 2022. i'd always wondered whether the inquest would figure out how on earth race and medical officials mixed up the severely injured surviving driver and the deceased sidecar passenger. i now know that, sure enough, it did. i but it has brought host to a whole slew of other questions.
#its not a very safe race. usually theres multiple deaths a year. and for 100 straight years it always had a fatal incident#be it driver audience member or marshall.#so i dont understand why on earth you would risk body misidentification by carrying your co-drivers indentifying tags#when theyre just as likely to die with you should an accident occur.#and because of the nature of ttt. usually violently enough to necessitate identifying items on your body.#they carried both of their dog tags in their uniforms. and because of the injuries to both the living and deceased could not be identified#by photo (which is fucking insanely awful). its such an absurd line of coincidences. and it lead to awful repercussions#a family informed their loved one had died and begin grieving only to learn he had survived#and another being lead to believe their family member had survived a fatal horror crash only to be told no. they'd got it he'd passed.#its so odd. its just so strange and i really hope they introduce measurez (or reinforce existing measures) to make sure#that nothing as horrible as this event ever takes place again
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i'm seeing maybe THE band of my teenage years live this summer and i could not be more excited!! ...i'm also realising i don't actually know the lyrics to any of their songs, only the nonsense my teenage brain assembled from what english i knew at the time
i've never spared a conscious thought for my conviction that American Idiot contained the line "that's not Plymouth on my flag America" but like. that can't be right. and it fully isn't! it's not. the only correct word in that whole line is "America"
#whelp six months to rectify this i guess lol#music#god i sent myself into a giggling fit at work with this just now#why plymouth??? why did i never think 'hey. why would that say plymouth. how would that make the least bit of sense.'#the actual line is 'the subliminal mindfuck america' which to be fair would not be quick to occur to a fourteen y/o german teen#in my defence (?) my english is excellent now. like. it's excellent FOR someone with my degree! it's the one thing i'm good at!#... still can't understand a word of what that man is singing in most songs to save my life#it's a combination of the music and just his accent i think?#like straight up holiday might as well be old english that's about the level of comprehension i'm achieving here#green day#american idiot
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The dark world thought. Loki keeps calling thor brother (mostly to annoy him) in the movie. idk why but i was hoping at least once thor would scream at him and say "STOP CALLING ME THAT"
Note to self: watch Thor 2: The Dark World. See, I think it's the other way round, and my answer involves thoughts I had about the thorki fic I inisist I will never write so fair warning for that BUT of the two it's Loki who's far more likely to insist they're not really brothers and shouldn't call each other that. A thought I had from the first film and then failed to post (I don't post ALL my thoughts on tumblr! Just most of them!) was that the 'worthy' aspect of Mjolnir is very vague and Loki would spend hours and hours trying to pin down 'what does worthy mean,' and utterly convinced that even if he isn't going to fit the criteria there must be a loophole somewhere in the wording that he can use. Whereas Thor probably hasn't spent much time worrying about that - either you're worthy or you're not and the magic hammer just knows which it is. Somehow.
Similarly I don't think Thor cares much about whether he and Loki were technically born to the same parents or even if they're the same species, because they are brothers, they've always been brothers, how can they not be brothers? Meanwhile Loki's upended life largely revolves around the fact that pedantically, legally, whateverly, they aren't really brothers and they never were. Which is why he's open to things getting incestuous now while Thor is still repulsed by his own unbrotherly yearnings. Don't be daft, Thor, we're obviously not brothers, stop calling me that it's not true you're just repeating someone else's lie! But what else would Thor call his brother? It may have been a lie to begin with, and it still might be a lie to other people, but having spent centuries thinking they were brothers and acting like they were then how is that relationship not them being brothers? Had Loki actually been his brother by blood it wouldn't have made a difference so in practical terms how are they suddenly not brothers just because Loki turned out to be a Frost Giant?
Thor wants Loki to stop causing problems and to stop being a dick, but he doesn't want him to stop being his brother (were such a thing even possible in his mind). Whereas Loki's life of crime or even just life on the run would be a lot easier if he didn't have a brother to worry about and who insists on worrying about him.
tl;dr: I got lost about halfway through my answer, sorry. I have more thoughts on this matter than my usually flippant comments might suggest D: D:
#brodinsons#but also a bit of thorki except not really cos i put a line through it#(nobody tell me that if you strikethru the thorki its still thorki shhhh i too have seized upon a technical distinction that barely counts)#it's not Thor being thick that makes him less fussed about words its that he's more likely to understand that the words aren't the point#fic acts like Thor's magic hammer doesn't run on magic and so it's less queer than reading books (INORITE?!?!) but no it does it's just tha#Thor isn't especially interested in how and why it works as long as it does. he tends to just accept things at face value more often.#this is not necessarily good! this is why he gets talked into invading jotunheim by someone he sees no reason not to trust#and then on Earth it never occurs to him the dead dad thing is a lie because who would lie about a thing like that? not his beloved bro!#the brodinsons together would be a fantastic king but alas the throne has been made too small to fit the both of them :(#replies#thor movies
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