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sketchtastrophee · 5 months ago

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old art again!! this time a rough animation of sawyer and yarnaby 😎 (looks better if u click to view 😭)

im working on a short ppt animation rn. im thinking i should post it to my youtube channel, though im not sure if people here would see it. i think i can link videos on here?? idk

okay I'm gonna talk abt more chapter 4 stuff.. this time about prototype's previous identity.. ch4 spoilers and also a theory below..

hiding the solo yarnaby under here LOL

people theorized 1006 was elliot, which was recently disproven in the chapter 4 tape where poppy refers to elliot as her dad and wishes he were there. in the same tape she addresses prototype as a completely different person. also recall that elliot died in the 90s, meanwhile prototype met theo in 1989. so yeah, they aren't the same person

I've also seen people say rich is prototype, which cannot be true either. in a ch4 tape he speaks to one of the employees under his supervision. the kid mentions his coworkers joking about him going missing. before the bbi, it would not make sense for this to be a common rumor at the company, which means this tape had to happen after harley was hired in 1990; at a time when the company would have a reason to silence people

prototype existed in 1989 at the minimum, but considering he says "it's always been about you and me" to poppy, he's likely the prototype of HER. she's elliots daughter, she died in the 60s, meaning prototype was probably created around that time as well.

this means that rich can't be the prototype because he was human long after prototype was made

if you want my take on who prototype truly is, i'd say his identity doesn't necessarily matter. i don't mean to say his origins aren't important, just that his name and specific role in the past probably doesn't mean anything in the long run. i've never believed he was elliot or rich, and maybe in the future i'll be proven wrong but for now i'll tell you the theory i've had since june of last year

elliot's daughter dies in the 60s. he divorced his wife in 1930, so his daughter is probably in her 30s when she dies. she gets sick or injured, maybe she's actively dying or already dead by the time elliot begins his research. he looks for ways to bring her back, but it doesn't work on the rats (as he mentioned a note in the 2nd chapter)

so what does he do? he tries it on something bigger as he said he would: a human. of course he's not going to try this experimental method on his own daughter, even if she's already dead, so he finds someone else to use it on. we know that elliot wasn't evil or anything, so it's unlikely he killed anybody to use for the experiment. considering the orphanage isn't open yet (it opened in the 70s, not the 60s), prototype probably wasn't an orphan child either. if i run with my simple version of the theory, elliot may have dug up a body in a graveyard and used that. maybe a fresh one, who knows. he tried it, it worked, then he revived his daughter with the same method.

this is likely what harley wanted to know about in the chapter 3 tape (the "i learn something new about you every day" one), and also what prototype is asking harley to figure out in the ch4 tape they're both in. in that case, sawyer never actually figured out how to revive people with the poppy substance. sure, he can transfer people into the toys, but he can't bring anybody back to life

more reason to believe prototype and poppy are of the same "batch" is because it seems they are the only two who don't need food. it's outright stated about him in the ch1 trailer, and insinuated with her saying the "toys will starve otherwise" when she's talking about how nasty them eating humans is. she refers to them, not herself. her and prototype are probably the only 2 who were ever brought back from the dead, which circles back around to his monologue and gives meaning to the "it's always been about you and me, poppy. what we are". when i heard him say that i felt like my theory was lowk confirmed 😭😭

no guarantee this is right, but it's been my guess for a long time

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thewritingfairy · 22 days ago

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I'm really curious on what may happen if reader die because of the meds+drugs combo.

Because this mean that Bruce didn't just broke his no killing roule. He broke it by killing an innocent civilian, by killing his child, his one blood, his first born, his only normal kid. The child he never tried to know, the child he only hurted to the point they can't trust him with anything.

How will he call himself a hero or a father after this? How can he say he wanted to protect the children when he killed his child with his own hands?

How can he even mourn who he doesn't know?

And what about the rest of the family? What will they do? How will they react? Especially Alfred. Will they drown themselves more in their delusions or will this be the slap that force them to see all their wrongs? Or will they all turn on Bruce because it's easier to condemn the evil of the others then to condemn the evil of oneself?

I also imagine if the reader died when they just came back to the manor in front of Alfred. And despite all the effort it was too late.

Also, what about reader's friends and loved ones? They have the evidences that reader gave them. So I guess they will probably release them. (Will They?)

And how will Gotham react to all this? Do you believe they will reach the Idea that Bruce killed his child on purpose to silence them? And what about the justice league? Finding out all of this about Batman.

Sorry if the ask is too long, I know it will probably need a lot to answer everyvone of my questions. I hope it doesn't bother you.

-😶‍🌫️

story mentioned: Nobody's child bad ending You aren't bothering me at all! In fact I am glad you enjoy my stories enough to do ask this many questions :D. I will be answering in a condensed matter how ever, so it's easier to understand, but I am also very chaotic right now lmfao.

if Reader dies? Bruce will be gutted, because he's the reason. Not your illness, but your medication. Medication he modified. He'll feel like he's the joker, he feels like he's no different than the man who killed his second son. Something that destroys Jason as well, he knows he's the reason for this as well. Dick will cry himself to sleep, Damian will return to old habits, Barbara will be frozen in time slowly turning in a sad version of herself, Cassandra will throw herself in her work and Stephanie will believe she is no better than her father once more.

Tim will blame himself the most, he'll blame himself for ignoring your neglect and he'll blame yourself for ignoring the families red flags. And he'll blame himself for following along, for making it impossible for you to leave behind the scenes.

Bruce can no longer call himself a hero, and neither can his family (except Duke) because when your friends and Duke will expose the evidence that you had already gathered.

Your friends will burn the Wayne family to the ground, with videos of you. With creating a wake for you larger than Jason's every what.

Besides that Duke would expose their secret identities as the Signal, he would expose your death for as it is.

And the Penguin? He would make their life hard even if the law doesn't fail you. They will be shouted at, attacked whenever and they will lose all respect in every world that exists. The criminal, the hero and the civilian world.

But as to how Gotham will react to this? They knew your mother, her soul. And they knew you were a version of her, a version that needed protection that your family couldn't give you. And Duke failed to deliver.

The justice league will pretend that they have no connection to them, that they didn't know about you. Because they didn't, they didn't. But Superman could have saved you, yet didn't.

From the Kent family Conner would take it the worst. He would fight Tim to the bone and leave him bleeding on the pavement with no remorse, he would do the same to Bruce.

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lgbtlunaverse · 1 year ago

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This page from the adventurer's bible makes me want to cry

Like basically any neurodivergent dungeon meshi fan, I see a lot of myself in the Touden siblings. But I was blindsided by just how much I suddenly related to Falin in this little comic from the adventure bible's complete version.

It's about the Touden siblings' differing relationships with their parents, and why Laios still holds their treatment of Falin against them, while Falin herself doesn't.

We know that Falin was isolated and ostraziced by their village after she saved Laios from a ghost, displaying her uncanny affinity for magic. Her parents, instead of defending her, sent her away, which angered Laios so much he ran way himself before Falin even left for magic school, hoping to make a living so he and Falin could live together alone.

He tells Marcile this, but when she goes to Falin, she says she sees things differently. Her father sent her to magic school to protect her form the rest of the village without having to cause a conflict. He didn't explain that, and we actually see her burst into tears when he says it.

But, well... Laios was gone for a year before Falin went to magic school, and everyone else in the village avoided her. The understanding Falin has with her parents to me looks like one borne out of necessity, she literally didn't have anyone else to talk to.

And this is where we get to the page that made me want to cry

Like I said, I relate to the Toudens because I'm neurodivergent myself. that feeling of suddenly realizing you're disliked, but not knowing what you did wrong or what you should have done instead? Yeah... that's one I recognize.

When I was around 9 years old, the same age Falin is in this comic, a bunch of kids in my class decided to make a "game" where you lost if you touched me. It was basically the 'cheese-touch' from diary of a wimpy kid, except I always had it and couldn't pass it along. They'd pretend I was poisonous or disgusting and run away from me screaming or gagging. The point was to make fun of me. But my autistic little 9 year old ass thought "Oh I get it! It's tag but I'm always it!" So I... played along. Running at a boy and having him fall on the ground screaming in fake pain because you tapped him is, in isolation, pretty funny.

It wasn't until months into the "game" that I realized it was meant to be meanspirited. That the reason I was the one who was always 'it' wasn't an arbritrary rule but the whole point. Because I was weird and gross. I wasn't in on the joke, I was the punchline.

Falin may have come to understand her parents' intentions, but she didn't always. The adventure bible actually tells us that she at first didn't even notice that the rest of their village disliked her. She clearly knows now, but she had to be told. So when her mom tried to exorcise her, she just saw it as an activity she got to do with a mother she usually didn't get to spend much time with because of her poor health. It's only Laios who notices something is wrong.

(Sidenote, Laios being hyper-aware of people's poor attitudes towards Falin but completely blindsided when he's in the same spot, like with Toshiro, is also very relatable as an eldest sibling)

It probably also took Falin months, until after her brother had left and she had no one but her parents, to realize why her mother had been doing all those things.

And I know they're not the same. Even misguidedly, Falin's mom was trying to help her, not make fun of her like those boys in my class. (Though, as a queer person who also cares a lot about the queercoding in Falin's storyline, a parent trying to 'exorcise' their child of a fundamental part of them the parent thinks is evil or corruptive? yeah... that's not perfectly wholesome)

But do you know what I did, when I finally figured out the game was always meant to make fun of me?

To me, it looked like I had a choice.

See, those boys eventually figured out I didn't understand that they were being mean to me. I'd laugh every time I managed to catch one of them, I was visibly having fun. And while it no doubt only made me more of a weirdo in their eyes, they never informed me that I shouldn't be enjoying myself. That the point was for me to feel hurt.

So now that I did know, I had a choice. I could either get upset, and let the insult land as it was supposed to. That wouldn't stop them, because making fun of me was the original goal. Or I could ignore it and go on as usual. They had already accepted that I didn't get it, and they weren't gona stop me from having fun, so why should I?

And the thing is that I had... one friend, in that whole class. One person who actually liked talking to me and hanging out with me. I was lonely. And the 'game' provided me with another social interaction, mean-spirited as it was, that I desperately needed. And it was so delightfully simple. Navigating actual friendships as a kid with autism and adhd was so fucking complicated, and I'd never know when I might break an inivisble rule. But I knew the rules to the game perfectly!

Sometimes, if I was chasing one of them, the others would trap him and hold him down so I could tap him. In those moments it actually did kind of feel like I was playing with them, rather than against them. And it didn't change much, they didnt start actually liking me. But they were willing to roll with the fact that I wasn't upset, and I took advantage of that because I needed to.

So you can look at Falin seeing the best in her parents as her being naïve, but I look at this page and I see myself, at first unable to differentiate between playing and being made fun of. And then later, when I did see the difference, deciding not to get mad about it because that'd mean losing that social interaction, and I couldn't afford to.

Like I said, Falin probably first realized this in the year she spent with her brother gone, and everyone else avoiding her like the plague. If she refused to talk to her parents, like Laios did, she'd have no one left.

I see a lot of people relating to the fight between Laios and Toshiro. that frustration when you realize someone you thougth was your friend actually hates you, and they never said anything, never gave you a chance to fix it because you had no idea that you were even doing something wrong! And I can see that, too. But sometimes, when people don't fully hate you, it feels better to go along with the pretending. Because adressing it won't fix it. Because the problem isn't a specific behaviour, it's you. And if they're willing to tolerate you, despite the fact that it's you, then you'll take it. Because other people do hate you, so this is the best you'll get.

#dungeon meshi #dungeon meshi meta #falin touden #laios touden #neurodivegent #autism #adhd #long post #this one got REAL personal oops

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anthurak · 5 months ago

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"I'd like to hear him out..."

(credit to @phuezo for the awesome art XD)

So here’s a fun little AU concept for the past couple months since Mastermind aired and people started throwing around ‘What if Charlie (or Lucifer) was at Blitzo’s trial?’ ideas:

What if Vaggie didn’t (entirely) lose her wings to Lute’s attack? Meaning that Charlie actually KNOWS that Vaggie is an angel from the beginning. And leading to Vaggie not hiding her identity by pretending to be a sinner and instead be generally open about her past as an angel and exorcist. Which I think could have some rather interesting ripple effects.

Now I realize it might be a bit headscratching how ‘Vaggie doesn’t lose her wings’ leads to ‘Charlie (and Vaggie) showing up at Blitzo’s trial’, but hear me out.

First off, I think the ‘How’ of this divergence is actually pretty easy to imagine; instead of ripping her wings off, Lute decides to inflict a different kind of sadistic torture on Vaggie. Terribly maiming her wings to prevent her from flying, but still leaving her wings to make it clear just what she is. Basically, Lute and Adam fully expect Vaggie to be torn apart by vengeful demons.

But in true dramatically ironic fashion, Vaggie is NOT found by the ‘evil, terrible demons’ that Lute and Adam (and even Vaggie herself) were expecting, but by Charlie Morningstar. And I think we can all agree that Vaggie happening to have a pair of angel wings would NOT meaningfully change Charlie’s reaction to finding her in the slightest.*

Charlie still basically falls for Vaggie at first sight, takes her in and patches her up and gives her a home. And in this version, after it becomes clear that Vaggie’s wings aren’t healing, Charlie also calls in a favor from Uncle Ozzie to design some cool cybernetics/prosthetics to give Vaggie full wing-functionality back. And after a while, Charlie and Vaggie fall in love and start dating just like they did in canon, possibly even sooner/stronger given that Vaggie doesn’t have the specter of hiding who she is from Charlie hanging over her in this version.

And this is where we get to one of those interesting ripple-effects of this change.

Because I think it is VERY likely (as in, I imagine we’ll actually see this come up in the actual show) that Charlie’s belief in sinner-redemption and drive to help sinners in large part came from Vaggie. Specifically in that Charlie believed that Vaggie was a sinner. As in, Charlie falling in love with someone who she thought was a sinner was a MAJOR factor in Charlie believing that sinners could be redeemed and general drive to help them.

Now obviously I’m not suggesting that Vaggie was the only reason or that Charlie wouldn’t care about the sinners otherwise. At the same time, I think it’s a bit ridiculous to assume that Charlie believing the woman she loves was a sinner all that time wasn’t a major contributor to her motivation in ‘making a hotel to redeem sinners’. Or that Charlie knowing Vaggie WASN’T a sinner from the beginning couldn’t put her on a different path…

Basically, this version of events with Charlie falling in love with ‘Vaggie the fallen angel/former exorcist’ instead of ‘Vaggie the human sinner’ ends up rippling out to lead Charlie to focus not on the problems of the human sinners, but rather the problems faced by the hellborn demons.

Say for example; because Charlie knows that Vaggie is an angel, and thus almost certainly NOT bound to the Pride Ring, the pair end up taking a few trips/dates to see the other rings. Particularly given that Vaggie already know Asmodeus.

But in the process of these trips, Charlie starts noticing many of the issues faced by the hellborn demons. Many of which she doesn’t remember from back when her father was running things…

Basically this ties into another theory I’ve had since Mastermind that a lot of the societal issues we see in Helluva Boss are the result of, or at least have been heavily exacerbated by, Lucifer’s long ABSENCE from ruling thanks to his centuries-long depressed isolation. Something that I think Mastermind pretty heavily hints at given everything we see from Satan in that episode. And that at some point, Hazbin Hotel is going to show Charlie having to DEAL with many of these issues as part of her arc of growing into a leader and future ruler of Hell.

And in this version of events, instead of being drawn to wanting to help the human sinners, Charlie is drawn to wanting to help the hellborn demons. Basically, since her father clearly isn’t doing his job, perhaps SHE should step up and try doing it instead?

And of course, Vaggie is right at her side through ALL of this. In fact, she may even be a bit more gung-ho about it, given that it probably feels to her a bit more feasible than ‘redeeming sinners’.

This all leads to Charlie pushing herself not so much into ‘replacing’ her father outright as ‘ruler’ of Hell, but rather starting to assume a kind of regency position. Not full-on ‘ruling’ (yet), but still starting to assume some of the roles and duties that her father has been neglecting for a couple hundred years.

And the fun thing is that nobody is really able to stop Charlie from doing any of this. After all, she IS the princess and heir apparent of the Morningstars, meaning she is well within her rights to assume a number of roles of her father. Particularly as Charlie makes it very clear that she is not trying to outright supplant her father, but is simply assuming duties that he’s been neglecting. To the point of keeping the title of ‘Princess’, or maybe ‘Princess Regent’.

Sure, some/most/all of the Goetia/other nobility might not like a lot of the ideas and goals Charlie is talking about, such as ‘Maybe the Imps, Hellhounds, etc AREN’T actually lesser and born to serve the nobility and shouldn’t be treated as such’, but there also isn’t really anything they can do to STOP her or remove her from her new position. After all, the only one with the authority truly above Charlie’s is Lucifer himself.**

And the nobles who do make a scene and/or pitch a hissy fit about Charlie’s ‘radical ideas’ tend to find themselves at the business-end of her girlfriend’s spear, sword or divinely-mailed fist. Really, in this situation Vaggie is a pretty big fucking deal all on her own, being a fallen angel and all. Certainly NOBODY is going to be judging Charlie on her choice of romantic partner. Well, maybe some sinners might judge her for dating a former exorcist, but any Hellborn demons, even the Goetia? No fucking way. Really, people would probably be making comments on how Charlie is taking after her mother.

Heck, even in the short time since Charlie started this endeavor, Vaggie’s probably earned her own title or two. ‘Blade of the Morningstar’? ‘Wings of the Princess’?

Of course it’s also worth noting that there are still some pretty hard limits to what Charlie can accomplish in terms of fixing/reforming the issues of hellish society, at least in the short term. She can’t just snap her fingers and fix classism or completely wipe out the Goetia’s authority (or the Goetia themselves). Particularly as Charlie doesn’t have the ultimate overriding authority of her father. Realistically, Charlie’s authority as Princess/Regent only just supersedes that of any of the Sins, and while that might put her above effectively ANY other one person in Hell, it also doesn’t give her absolute ‘do anything I want’ authority either. Not to mention that this is still Charlie we’re talking about, who in this timeline is still only JUST getting use to throwing her authorial weight around.

But at the same time, again there really isn’t anything anyone can do to fully STOP Charlie from doing anything either. Meaning that in the short time since assuming her new role as regent, say about a year or two, Charlie has already started making small but noticeable changes and ripples to Hell’s society.

Which brings us to this new version of Mastermind, with Charlie and Vaggie making a surprise appearance at Blitzo’s trial and Charlie actually wanting to hear the imp out. This leads to a number of other fun changes including but not limited to:

Charlie invoking both ‘Princess Regent Authority’ and ‘Favorite Niece Privileges’ to get all of the Sins voting on her side to hear Blitzo out and override literally all of the Goetia royalty.

Andy-the-not-actually-a-sister-fucker pitching a hissy fit over this and getting choke-slammed and almost speared by Vaggie.

Blitzo still finding a way to fuck up this golden opportunity by running his mouth. Because this is still Blitzo we’re talking about, and giving him a chance to talk is ALSO giving him a chance to dig himself into a deeper hole.

Stolas choosing the exact worst (and funniest) moment to dramatically burst in with his big, dramatic ‘sacrifice myself for the man I love via song number’ gambit, which actually only makes things worse/wackier when Charlie starts asking pertinent questions.

Andy pitching more hissy fits as his plans continue to unravel and getting repeatedly chokeslammed and/or kicked in the dick by Vaggie.

Striker getting dragged back in when it becomes clear there are a LOT of holes in his story, only to constantly flip-flop on his story because he can’t figure out which authority figure(s) he should be selling-out-to/kissing-up-to in order to save his own skin.

Charlie, Vaggie and even Satan becoming ever more flabbergasted as it becomes clear that the suspect (Blitzo), prosecution (Andre), defense (Stolas) and witness (Striker) in this trial are in fact ALL complete fucking idiots.

*Admittedly I do have one other possible change in mind to help reinforce this: rather than a sinner child, Vaggie actually spares an imp kid, or perhaps a sinner child and their imp kid best friend. Which leads to the imp kid actually leading Charlie to the injured Vaggie and also telling her that this angel actually helped them and got hurt doing so.*** Which again serves to reinforce just how wrong Adam and Lute and much of heaven are about demons.

** And if you’re going to ask ‘Why doesn’t Charlie just go to her dad directly and get him to do his job?’, remember that Charlie had to be practically dragged kicking and screaming by her girlfriend into calling up Lucifer for help in Hazbin. I think it’s pretty clear that pre-Hazbin, if Charlie can get what she’s after without getting her dad involved, she is ABSOLUTELY going to do it.

*** Also this hypothetical imp kid doesn’t actually show up again and DOES in fact have a living family, meaning that NO, Charlie and Vaggie DON’T ADOPT THEM. Because I KNOW that is exactly what some of you started thinking when I mentioned an unattended child in relative proximity to our heroines.

And of course, once again HUGE thanks to @phuezo for the awesome art of Charlie and Vaggie XD

#hazbin hotel #helluva boss #hazbin au #helluva mastermind #Charlie Morningstar #Vaggie #chaggie #hazbin what-if #hazbin fanart #awesome art

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amadinan · 18 days ago

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TADC episode 5 analysis

I will collect here my thoughts that appeared after watching the 5th episode of TADC. And there are many of them, the episode is really rich in revealing the backstories of the characters and even lore. But I will mainly touch on Caine and the lore of the circus.

But first, some small thoughts before I move on to the Intermission time.

Jax is an NPC?

To be honest, I never believed in this theory, it is interesting in a vacuum, but nothing more. However, at this point we have not one, but three hints about this: Jax's number in episode 4, which refers to the Blender program and how copies are named there, the fact that Caine was able to make Jax a vegan (although Caine stated that he cannot influence the minds of players) and the fact that Jax himself was sure that he had a tail.

This would already be enough to consider the theory probable, but perhaps this hole is a little deeper. In the end, Caine was also able to influence Ragatha, although not directly.

But what if we combine this with the main theory of the circus, that all people are digital copies of minds? Then, Caine can theoretically control them, because from his program point of view, they are no different from very complex NPCs, which Caine churns out himself, like on a conveyor belt. Let's remember that Caine deleted Gummigoo because he was afraid of confusing him with a person (after all, even then there were thoughts that Caine accidentally deleted someone) and probably Caine deleted the original Jax, and then replaced him with a NPC copy that differs from the original only in the absence of a tail. After all, even in the episode with the evil team, we were shown that Caine can easily create humanoid personalities by copying them from players.

Caine and Gangle

In the fifth episode, I noticed two actions between them and both were not entirely direct. First: immediately after exiting the portal, Caine noticed Gangle's broken mask and fixed it without a word. Second: Gangle was not on the evil team, she was replaced by Orbsman. I think Caine realized that Gangle almost abstracted at the end of episode 4, so Caine decided to be a little more attentive to her. And he did not add an evil clone, because this clone ... would have been Gangle from episode 4 herself, which could only upset her.

"Sarcastic eye-flying" after Zooble's sentence.

It's only one phrase, but it's clearly a lore bomb, although it is not entirely clear without context. For starters, Caine does not call Zooble by name, not "player", "guest" or even "human", he calls them "toy-box character". This may again hint at digital copies, but not necessarily. And then Caine says "other intelligent AIs" and this is even stranger, who did he mean? People like him and Bubble, simple NPCs or like players? It's unclear, but interesting, and Caine seriously doesn't like this idea from Zooble and again it's unclear why? The overload on the system? A possible NPC revolt? Caine is afraid that if there are too many characters, he will completely get confused who is who?

And finally, The Intermission time.

Get ready, there will be a complete searching for meaning where there may be none at all.

To be honest, I didn't understand everything, but some things may well have a context, so I'd be glad to hear your thoughts.

So, right after the intermission there was a bar where almost all the characters shared their past, and what if Caine shared too, just before this adventure? But purely in his style.

Right after the start scene, we are shown Bubble and how three jaws overlap each other, and then also three Caines, each larger one holding the smaller one. This may refer to his development, how starting with something simple like Bubble, he first became "jaws" (probably an alpha version), and then more and more complex, until he became what he is now. This also corresponds to the fact that at the end of the scene, Caine sort of folds himself, and then a small splash screen plays like in the 2000s games and the computer monitor turns on/off.

Why in the next scene Pomni is not clear to me, but here's why exactly cubes suggested by @poprocksriot. Perhaps there were three parts or even three AI that became a single being: two eyes of Caine and Bubble (possibly a third eye, as in the concept art).

Gangle, Zooble and Jax are sucked into the void: a metaphor for sucking people into the game.

A bunch of eyes in the void and Caine in the light in the middle. I think this is one of the most important scenes, which shows that Caine "came to life" and is no longer just a program. Firstly, the official music, secondly (thank you, @puddingandp1) he breathes in this scene, which may just mean that he is now sentient. In addition, the eyes. There are indeed a lot of eyes, but NONE of them are looking at Caine himself, which could mean how he became an "rogue AI".

Then we see the chessboard floor and the characters. Their world is literally turned upside down. A bowling ball falls on Pomni and Jax, which may indicate their condition as they were affected by getting into the circus. Moreover, we even saw Pomnis' condition in the first series. The situation crushed her, like a bowling ball. With Gangle and Ragatha it is a little more complicated, cakes fall on them. This means that for them the situation in the circus is "sweeter" than what was in reality. We heard about the abuse in Ragatha's family right in this episode, so in the circus, where her mother is not, she could get better. And with Gangle it is even easier. She worked at such a hateful job that even simulating these memories for just one day almost killed her. In the circus there is Jax, as a minus, but she does not have to work and she can draw as much as she wants. And Kinger. He catches the ball, which seems to say that the situation has not crushed him, but then he is not just crushed, but directly knocked off the board (mind) by a black figure, the loss of Queenie.

Then it is more figurative. Caine literally holds everyone in his hands. The characters in Caine's "hat" and they are clearly being watched, then a bunch of mannequins, which can also refer to the fact that Caine, as a puppeteer, holds them under control.

Then Caine stands on the floor and the camera approaches him. Note that this is the same chessboard floor on which the others were standing, and a bowling ball can approach it, as if the camera was attached directly to it, but Caine manages (for now) to not let himself be crushed.

Then a corridor and abstractions. Well, here it is quite clear, the attitude and the display of lost players.

Then Zooble interrupts Caine and he hangs. Perhaps we should have seen something else, from which even Caine hung, but alas.

Of course, there is also a mysterious mannequin that follows Pomni and is possibly Gummigoo, but little is known about him yet.

That's all for now, I really liked the series, I'm sure it will only get more interesting.

#the amazing digital circus #tadc caine #tadc theory #tadc analysis #tadc episode 5 #caine angst #tadc jax #tadc gangle

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essycogany · 10 months ago

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Sonic As A Villain

I don’t have a name for him, but this is my interpretation of Sonic as a villain. Here’s a hint, imagine if you noticed it, but not through his personality.

I’ve seen many interpretations of Sonic as a villain and instead of having him be a Sonic but on a bad day like Scourge. Sonic but dark and more violent like in Sonic X. Or Sonic but insane like Fleetway or Chaos Sonic, let’s have something different.

Have you ever noticed how Sonic can always manipulate a situation? He does it a bunch when he fights or interacts with people. It’s almost never in a negative way, but it does come across as a bit prideful and egotistical. Usually everything ends up going his way or has to go his way.

I believe if Sonic was ever to be a villain, he’d be a master manipulator. Funnily enough Sonic barely ever lies about things in most continuities, but at the same time is able to trick people or bend things to his will whenever he needs to. I’d like to think a villainous Sonic would be perceived as a good guy. Like standing up for Tails, but instead of moving on and letting Tails join him, Sonic manipulates Tails into beating up the bullies who bullied him.

He’d make Amy feel as if she doesn’t need to fend for herself and tell her to rely on him whenever she needs help. Or tell Knuckles to never trust anyone or ends up not inspiring him, so Knuckles stays antagonistic and untrusting. He’d inspire people to be the worst versions of themselves. Therefore creating a toxic atmosphere. Ideas like that.

This Sonic would be one who’d not care about being famous or rule over anything like a dictator. He’s like normal Sonic in a sense that he goes by his own rules, but it’d be for the worst intentions. He also takes advantage that he’s fast and uses his speed as a weapon. Destroying homes, pulling pranks, stealing, messing up the ecosystem, and all that jazz. He might save the world if it meant he didn’t have to die. But he doesn’t care if some Egg-shaped scientist is destroying the world. As long as he’s not bothering Sonic, why should he care? If he does go against Eggman or any other villains, he’d most likely kill them on the spot. Not out of heroism, but just out of spite. He doesn’t like being bothered.

When he says he doesn’t mind being the bad guy, he means it literally. He’d lack the emotional depth Sonic has and be a caricature of the “Cool guy being a jerk” trope. He doesn’t care if he’s seen as evil or not. He just likes causing mischief. No tragic backstory for him. Sonic’s the way he is because he chooses to be. That includes when he’s the bad guy.

He could act like a good guy in front of a crowd, but in reality, he’s causing the issues people believe he’s saved them from. All you gotta do with an evil version of him is turn his best/worst attributes of his personality and crank them to 100. He doesn’t have to be wild and crazy about it. He’d be just as chill and laid back as normal Sonic. Except he enjoys the chaos around him. Unlike other evil interpretations he’s the most similar to normal Sonic. And it makes things so much worse when he causes problems.

This isn’t the perfect idea, but I do like the concept of Sonic but evil in a way that almost doesn’t change his morals/personality.

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sporesgalaxy · 4 months ago

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I HEARD WE WERE SHARING DANNY PHANTOM OCS FOR @dpocparadeevent AND I CAME RUNNING AS FAST AS I COULD!!!!!! BEHOLD, FAN FAVORITE CANON CHARACTER (lying),

SILENCE ALEXANDER

Silence is a ghost librarian who roams the Ghost Zone and the living world in order to learn everything there is to know about ghosts!

Age: ~150yrs

Height: short

Sexuality: Bisexual

Gender: Bisexual*

Powers: pyromancy, smoke-mancy, book summoning, encyclopedic knowledge of ectobiology and ghost history, and also literally possesses multiple encyclopedias about those things. She wrote most of them.

Weaknesses: water, her own hubris, emotional constipation, Vlad Masters who said that? must've been the wind...

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Silence keeps a massive hoarde of unique books and strange artifacts in her library inside the Ghost Zone. She will even lend these books and artifacts...in exchange for information of equal value! Plus, whatever info you offer isn't safe from being traded with others just as readily, should someone have a worthwhile offer for it! If someone uses that information to hurt you, then that isn't Silence's problem.

She uses one such artifact to disguise herself and traverse the human world. She is completely unable to use any ghost powers while disguised, but she doesn't seem to mind. In fact, she can almost forget she's a ghost at all...except that she can't taste or feel things the same way a human could.

She's very knowledgeable, but sometimes her pessemistic biases lead her to draw questionable conclusions. She assumes that all ghosts are fundamentally self-serving-- which means there's nothing wrong with her being selfish too!

PLOT INVOLVEMENT:

Silence met Vlad in the 90s, and was beyond thrilled that an unprecedented creature like a Halfa could exist. They got along like a house on fire and made it everyone else's problem for a year or so.

Then Silence suddenly disappeared, leaving Vlad with unfettered access to her many, many resources. How strange...

Silence reappeared 10 years later (during the events of the show) and wasted no time getting petty revenge by setting Vlad's mansion on fire.

She's not satisfied with just destroying his belongings, though. Silence also makes a point to befriend the Fenton family in disguise, using them to catch up on the years of research she missed.

Danny catches on almost immediately, but Silence is able to win him over with promises of Ghost Zone knowledge and dirt on Vlad. She seems to know a little more about Vlad than a "former business partner" should, but hey, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, right? And Danny doesn't have a lot of friends in the Ghost Zone.

Unfortunately, Danny will go on to learn that Silence is actually friends with most of his OTHER enemies, because Silence firmly believes that the ends justify the means when it comes to getting her hands on valuable information.

Even her and Vlad's mutual hatred seems a little, um...layered. Not that either of them will ever admit it.

Silence does not consider herself evil or underhanded, just...driven to succeed. She firmly believes that everything she does is necessary, and serves the greater good of scientific advancement.

Silence lived a very lonely human life and died feeling irrelevant and replaceable. She sees a kindred spirit in Vlad, which is both attractive and infuriating. She was deeply in love with Vlad during their time together in the 90s, but she refused to tell him and he was blinded by his focus on Maddie as usual. Vlad's betrayal reinforced Silence's pessemistic worldview and her unwillingness to be honest or vulnerable with others. Somehow, though, it didn't completely get rid of her crush on him...much to her continued chagrin.

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BET YOU FORGOT ABOUT THAT ASTERISK. BUT I DIDN'T.

*Gender: Bisexual -- Antiquated version of the term that she still likes & identifies as. Similar to being bigender or genderfluid. Most people default to she/her and Silence doesn't really care.

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Blorbo!

#dp oc parade #dp oc parade event #dp oc #dp #silence alexander #spacecreate #colorful stuff

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lottienathive · 5 months ago

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Gen question, why did nat imagine lottie when she died tho? Was it bc lottie symbolizes the wilderness and it was nat accepting the wilderness in a way? And i know they sometimes referred the wilderness as “It” so what did lottie mean by “It’s not evil, just hungry” or “Just let It in” hmmm what do u think?

it's definitely meant to be ambiguous and up for interpretation like many aspects of the show. not even courtney eaton knew what that line was supposed to mean exactly because they wouldn't tell her.

this article talks about it in more detail:

but essentially that was the version of lottie that nat needed to see in that moment to find peace in the face of death. she imagined the softest and most familiar version of lottie, comforting her in the way she used to do it in the wilderness (hand on heart and all that). as for what "it" means in the context of that scene, i think it's death. simple as that. sure you could interpret "it" as the wilderness and that's valid but i think when you look at the bigger picture, and at nat's character journey, it's really just death and nat accepting that her time is finally up.

for someone who was so hell bent on ending her life, nat was just as afraid of losing it. when the plane was going down, she was terrified. when she drew the queen card as soon as she had the chance to run, she ran for her life. she let javi drown because she didn't want to die. even when she had the gun pointed at her head, finger on the trigger, she hesitated. she was visibly terrified. and then, when she did die, it was sudden, it was unexpected, it wasn't by her choice, and she did not feel ready at all. she says so herself: "i'm not supposed to be here."

now if you remember, after the plane crash, nat had a nightmare. she was again on the plane, with the ghost of her father sitting next to her, telling her "what are you so afraid of?" "it's been waiting for us."

in her death vision she hears something similar from javi: "there's nothing to be afraid of". and her younger self tells her: "this is exactly where we belong we've been here for years". and then, finally, young lottie appears. the softest version of lottie, her hand on nat's heart, calming her down and helping her accept what's happening and "just let it in"

#💌#yellowjackets #natalie scatorccio #lottie matthews #lottienat

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nebby-exists · 2 months ago

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Yall I have a AU thing for White Orchid hol up- So basically, it’s what if she was abit more of a opposite to her dad?

Due to how she was born from his tears(mainly of the soul jam some how sobbing in some way), this version would have a more magic instilled thing of seeing How a person is, albeit their sillouette form with a form of glow that she can only see. This mainly works when her eyes are closed or her vision is obscured. Mixing with something I don’t know how to explain (maybe something to do with being a kind of orchid borne), this combo makes her hostile especially as a baby (her petals covered her face so dirt doesn’t leave her too dirty or to not made the sun to blinding when she’s above ground for the first time.)

Baby Orchid is a BITER. Has barked and growled like an animal at many of the lambs, only the genuinely good and truly kind ones gaining her quiet (because of them, she atleast gain some more understanding of cookies and what remaining ‘humanity’ there was…even if she herself struggled not to feel hostile towards those she senses as bad or worse). She rarely giggled unless witnessing karma or sensing it somehow. If she does giggle at something else like a child would, then it atleast seems a sigh she isn’t all aggressive and still a baby. She was a spiteful baby, fussy and often preferred to be alone. She does become much less of a papa’s girl, even growling and biting him. However, she seems to always have a look of pity, as if knowing something more to the saint…or atleast..something more sorrowful. It’s not clear if she hates him, pities him, or loves him as her father….but most can see through small actions.. she may care.

To no shock, Saint Vanilla still adores his little plant gremlin.

When she’s the current age or around that age she had ran away, she was quiet. Not exactly mean, just not fond of some cookies. She will bite if she feels needed, but overall she doesn’t talk much or at all. (Kinda reminds vanilla of certain cookies…)

Of course she’s particularly hostile with Holy Dart and Vanilla Creme. Take a good guess why.

When it comes to the neobeasts, well: She clearly hates dragonberry. Period.

Doesn’t accept any golden gifts from celestial cheese, other than little bells or genuine gifts from care/honesty.(she wasn’t taught this, she was just like that). (She does sometimes give a sympathetic look…..but it’s never for long.)

Surprisingly is neutral abit towards frigid cacao, giving a sympathetic look almost. However, she will still be defensive and stay away…or climb him so get away from the other beasts.

Midnight Lily, despite being one of the first orchid meets, isn’t spared from white orchid’s wariness. Nor spared from the sympathetic look her eyes give, no matter the expression. In truth, it was why midnight Lily refused to look at her in the eye….

While white orchid is on her lil runaway(for abit of the same reason as in canon)(think abit of a undertale like format), There are two routes:

EXECUTIONER white orchid gives in to giving judgement, rather attacking and rarely showing mercy. She becomes a form of mini beast of such, and a big problem for the neobeasts, if they live, or get torn down by the little plant. If she somehow kills her father or not, it is unknown. But…a choice must be made…take a life without mercy, or let it live….hm..

REDEEMER While abit more difficult of a route due to her magic kind of genetics, she learns how to deal with another’s evil, while not in a killer-torture manner, but more in a redemption kind, or atleast a fair judgement. She starts to learn more of patience and that regardless of evil they shouldn’t be immediately treated cruelly unless proven to be far from redemption…though she will remain stern towards that evil…that part she won’t change. Rather than possibly killing each neobeast/beast undertale style, she would end up doing a more mercy endurance route, fighting when needed but never killing them. It’s either for them to gain redemption and be judged for their crimes rightfully (by the ones wronged and the ones who were forced to witness). The end battle has the same opponent, but this time…. She won’t be alone..and neither will he..

This might be a excuse to make orchid a gremlin that’s just done with the lamb’s bullcrap.

Beast ancients Au/ All mentioned Neobeasts belongs to @cuppajj

White orchid and angy orchid AU concept by meeeee :33

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casscainmainly · 4 months ago

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strange ask please feel free to ignore me but i think of you as the Cass Expert so it seemed appropriate to ask you. I’ve seen in a lot of fan works Cass being mad/disliking the use of Cain as her last name in any scenario. Is this something that comes from canon? Because it seems like DC still refers to her with Cain a lot, but that could just be because it makes her more easily recognizable.

First of all I'm flattered you see me as a Cass expert <3333, there are people who know so much more than me on here so it means a lot! Secondly I LOVE THIS ASK!!! It's actually something I've been contemplating a lot, especially since Cass nation is divided over it.

Does Cass hate using the name Cain in canon? Well, the short answer is no. Cass refers to herself using 'Cain':

Batgirl (2008) #1 // Batgirl (2024) #1

People mostly refer to her as Cassandra by itself, but when people have called her Cassandra Cain, she doesn't react negatively to it. I don't think there's canon evidence (as far as I know) that she dislikes using or being called 'Cain'.

Does she like the name Cain, though? Well, there are some indicators that she doesn't. Firstly, she associates Cain with her dad. She's much more likely to call him 'Cain' than 'David':

Batgirl (2000) #33

At the end of Batgirl (2000) #73, when the narration implies she's going to forsake the Bat symbol, it says this:

When Cass is at her low point, she reverts to the name 'Cain', implying she does have negative associations with it. The tricky thing is this section leads into evil!Cass, and takes place after a fight with her mom; there are other factors as to why Cass would use only 'Cain' here. But nevertheless this demonstrates she does have some ambivalence towards the name, and positions it as opposite to her 'real' identity, Batgirl.

Her disliking Cain doesn't even mean she has to dislike it forever - Cass didn't even like Cassandra at one point. But it's not a fanon-only thing that Cass may have troubles with 'Cain', even if there's no direct evidence she'd be mad about it.

However, and here's where my personal interpretation comes in, I think it's significant she doesn't change her name. Obviously you're correct that it's for marketing purposes, and also the alliteration slaps, but I think in-universe it makes sense to keep the Cain name.

Firstly, although Cain was David Cain's name, he did not give it to her. He kept her nameless as a sign she wasn't human, that she was only a weapon to him. (Ignoring the retcon that he gave her Cassandra, because the NML novel version is 1000x better). What this means is that Cain is not a gift, but rather something Cass took from him - I'm thinking of this scene in Batgirl (2000) #16:

This is just my opinion but I love the idea that Cass keeps the Cain name to sort of redeem it - David Cain is bad, but Cassandra Cain is not. It's almost the ultimate insult to him, to take his name and change its meaning. Given that Cass' story is about taking something horrible you've been given and turning it into something beautiful, I like this as a reason for her keeping the Cain name.

BUT that was a long rambley way to say it's not canon she hates the name Cain. It's not against canon because it can be extrapolated easily and I love seeing the other names people choose, such as Gordon, Wayne, Cain-Wayne, etc. But if we're strictly talking what's on the page, Cass uses the name Cain herself and wouldn't mind others calling her that (as far as I know).

#cassandra cain #david cain #ask #sorry anon i went off track but your ask was so interesting to me #been thinking a lot about the name 'cain' and her love for david etc etc #i just think it's pretty profound for her to keep the cain name despite everything and make it a name for a hero #i also think cass just wouldn't be bothered to change her name tbh. she never likes changing her hero name either #she's cassandra cain and batgirl and that's the extent of names she wants to deal with #(and she's batgirl before cass cain anyway)

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