#“““Bones””” discourse?
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This is the only take I want to hear regarding the Bones discourse from now on
#Humanity is good actually#bsd#bungou stray dogs#“““Bones””” discourse?#Yeah Admiral Leonard H. McCoy MD Human Starfleet officer of the 23rd and 24th centuries accomplished surgeon physician psychologist#exobiologist expert in space psychology and chief medical officer serving aboard the USS Enterprise sure would
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I’m sick of people passing off patronizing and condescending commentary about how naive and impressionable women are as useful and educational. These people will base their analysis of fiction on sexist notions about how easily women are “tempted “ by malevolent villains and then act as if that’s some revolutionary take. They’ll unironically construe the narrative in a way that takes away all agency from the female heroine and frame her decisions as entirely the result of the villain’s manipulation.
They wring their hands about how dangerous it is for women to be exposed to these stories and moan about how terrible it is that hot villains appeal to the “baser instincts” and tempt female viewers further (Yes, I actually saw someone make this argument) It’s truly bizarre to see people agreeing with such patronizingly sexist rhetoric and saying things like “I miss the days when villain romances were cautionary tales and not encouraged.” As if women thirsting after attractive fictional villains is some epidemic that threatens society.
It’s especially irritating when women are the ones saying these things. They want to believe that they are a rare exception that, unlike those other brainless girls, can understand that liking hot villains will threaten their morals and lead them astray…OH THE HORROR!! Please save your dramatic preaching for the next purity conference and stop pretending that your sanctimonious commentary has any substance whatsoever.
#This is about a video I watched called: Thirst Trap Villains and Why They Need to Stop#If you’re interested in subjecting yourselves to thinly veiled conservative and purity culture rhetoric then give it a watch!#They pretty much spouted nonsense about the following ships:#haladriel#darklina#reylo#oshamir#and guess what? they also complain about the *feminism* that’s ruining Star Wars (and they’re a woman too good lord)#purity culture#shadow and bone#the darkling#alina starkov#star wars salt#the rings of power#Galadriel#saurondriel#fandom discourse#media analysis
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Tommy: “I won’t be your last”
Buck: *immediately hauls his ass to Eddie’s house*
#you can’t make this shit up#please they are so transparent#just two silly guys#evan buckley#eddie diaz#i will die on the buddie hill#911 on fox#never closing on buddie#911 show#911 fox#buckley diaz family#911 spoilers#buddie#911 on abc#911#911 fandom#911 abc#911 discourse#911 season 8#buddie fandom#bucktommy bones#oliver stark#ryan guzman
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Sorry to barge in but the Crowfeather talk has actually inspired me to keep writing my long-winded Nightcloud defense doc lmao-I started it a few months ago and got maybe halfway done before I got burned out (curse you adhd)
It goes over every time she's mentioned and has a section clearing up misconceptions because you would not believe just HOW weird people can get about Nightcloud
For example: Did you know that there are genuinely people who think she took advantage of Crowfeather and groomed him? Well I didn't until I saw it with my own two eyes. People try and say she's like Mudclaw levels of older than him when she literally just appears out of nowhere in Starlight. Insane behavior
Do not cite the deep magic to me; I was there when it was written
#For the record I have not seen Crowstans make an attempt at the discourse in the Tumblr space since I did this fdgfsdfgfd#Years ago it used to be pretty abundant before I was actively posting#But now you can post the simple yet effective Crowfeather Infections in this space and obliterate any amoeba in a 10 mile radius#bone babble
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“Character A didn’t love Character B because they hurt them” discourse is truly terrible because it assigns a moral value to love that simply does not exist. love doesn’t actually mean anything about someone’s character. it doesn’t make someone’s actions toward another any better or any worse, it doesn’t prevent atrocities, and it doesn’t prevent abuse.
love is a worthless emotion when it comes to morals because it simply holds no bearing on them. true love doesn’t exist. there is no better or more pure version of love. in the end love doesn’t mean anything. it’s a non-emotion. it’s the child of passion and affection and dedication. doing something bad doesn’t preclude a feeling of love, because a lack of love isn’t a requirement for immoral actions, and morality isn’t a requirement for feeling love.
#like there's no moral high ground saying the character loved or didn't love the other charater#because its irrelevent#it's a driving factor like any emotion is a driving factor and that's about it#it's not a sign of morality or immorality#it's literally just love#love as an emotion is an ENTIRELY separate entity from a healthy relationship#shadow and bone#grishaverse#aleksander morozova#the darkling#alina starkov#darklina#hannigram#lawlight#spuffy#sab meta#sab salt#sab discourse#i mean kinda lol#just to be safe#myramblings#negative#fandomcourse
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Probably about to piss someone off but. . .
I pointed this out to a friend recently while trying to get them hooked on One Piece, then I thought given what's happening in several other fandoms right now, it's worth sharing it with everyone I can.
One Piece has been running since the 90's and has fans that have been there since the beginning. Since the live action last year, there has been a surge of new fans, myself included, who knew next to nothing coming in.
Some of us have chosen to go back to the beginning and read or watch everything while others are only watching the new series.
There are also numerous "conflicting" ships that some are diehards for. There are fem and trans variants of many of those characters and ships (mostly many fan created) as well.
The one thing I've seen almost nothing of is wars between fans about any of this. Older fans have been willing to answer questions and help new fans find info about backstories and lore without judging them for not going back and finding it themselves. I've never seen (for example) Zosan fans telling Zolu fans they can't ship them for any reason. Canon, crack ships, rare pairs, none of it matters. We're just having fun.
One Piece is one of (if not the most) well loved anime and manga series in existence and I've seen less drama from them than in fandoms of some one season series.
So to all the One Piece fans, thank you for being kind and welcoming!
And to everyone else that bothered to read all this, what are we doing?
#one piece#opla#i'm sure there is drama somewhere but i've been here a year and seen none of it#unlike . . .#911 abc#bridgerton#the umbrella academy#the bear#dead boy detectives#willow 2022#shadow and bone#i put those in order of worst to least drama i've seen#sure there are many others that i don't see just as bad or worse#at least start using anti tags so we can filter it out#long post#fandom discourse#shipping wars#proship#multishipper
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theres a post going around thats driving me insane so i have to comment on it
no, lighter bones are NOT associated with secondarily aquatic animals!!! its the opposite!!! secondarily aquatic animals often acquire DENSER bones than their relatives!!!! not only does this help them be more stable in the water column, but it also acts as ballast to help them SINK!! they do NOT want to float!! they want to achieve a density that is roughly equivalent to that of the water around them and achieve neutral buoyancy so that it is equally as energy efficient to dive as it is to surface! secondarily aquatic animals already have lungs and fat stores and other things which are less dense than water and thus would float, so they need something to offset that, which often results in things like denser bones!!
penguins have denser bones than other birds! whales acquired denser bones in their evolution to a marine lifestyle! the extremely high density of spinosaurid bones is one of the primary arguments for them having an aquatic lifestyle!!!
#all the care guide says is 'biomass'#hippos having super dense bones is normal!!! this is one of the consistent threads for secondarily marine animals!!#i hate that post. i hate it more and more by the day#i do not want to see a repeat of the sunfish and panda discourse with hippos#(and yes there are some exceptions in dolphins)#(namely. in species who have compressible lungs.)#(as in when they go to dive they compress the oxygen in the lungs)#(and this takes them from a positive buoyancy to a neutral one so they can dive more easily)#(and they only reinflate the lungs when they want to surface which makes them quicker at surfacing)#(and this is found in deep-diving species for that reason.)#just. mmmmm. drives me Insane
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rereading the hivebent commentary makes me so annoyed that people are never really willing to analyze the actual effects that alternian culture clearly had on every troll, especially the highbloods. pretty much the only troll who ever actually gets taken in the context of her upbringing is vriska.
no one ever seems willing to think about the character arcs of trolls like equius and terezi, who are also bluebloods with extremely hypocritical and toxic understandings of the people around them-- equius is boiled down to a gross creep who is just like that naturally and definitely didn't get it from his society in any way, whilst terezi is scrubbed of virtually all her flaws and turned into a strange sort of based love interest character who is all about being gay and too cool to be tricked by any of the alternian propaganda. quadrants? classism? how silly! terezi would never believe in stupid shit like that. she's quirky! and GAY!
despite the fact that equius and terezi both obviously have much, much more to their personalities than that-- and the alternian empire is informing way more dangerous things about these kid's beliefs than "kiss annoying people".
#hsmeta#op#terezi wants to be a cop and views herself as responsible for vriska BECAUSE OF HER HYPOCRITICAL IDEAS OF JUSTICE#shes NOT just obsessed with dealing with vriska because shes interested in her she has weird freak codependency because her COP HYPOCRISY#she is also gay for vriska but thats part of the Turmoil. thats part of her struggle with her need to kill vriska.#terezi thinks shes Holier Than Everyone and that shes the only one who can kill vriska w/o it being petty revenge#ignoring that she's actually the one with more emotional investment in vriska than ANYBODY#man there are so many interesting things to say about terezi but everyone is too busy making her the mouthpiece for their Woke Takes#bcuz they actually think terezi is woke. and not a deeply confused and distraught girl with more issues than bones#i also like equius but ive made posts abt him before. lol#homestuck#i could talk about eridan and feferi and gamzee too actually#and how i rarely ever see anyone talk about them In The Context Of Alternia. its always just oh well they did a bad thing that annoyed me.#vriska gets hundreds of thousands of pages of discourse into why alternia and her upbringing affected her actions but nobody else does#idk. i went on for too long in these tags already LOL#btw the inspo for this post was my lovely partner as usual 💫
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The entirety of Siege and Strorm the Darkling is manipulating Alina, tempting her with power and sex and all that ✨ fun ✨ stuff. Meanwhile Mal is manipulating her like that guy you meet in college who is willing to hook up but he can't be together with you because this semester he's taking like, fifteen credits ;c
#shadow and bone#grisha trilogy#grishaverse#im unsurprised#'oohhh the darkling is manipulating her!!!“#yeah and? hes hot when he does it#mal is manipulative too he just uses the silent treatment#you think just because he didnt kill a bunch of people for power thats okay#i should not be engaging in this discourse#shadow and bone came out what? a bajillion years ago?#you guys are mad i ship alina with the darkling?#wait until you see who i ship rhaenyra with lmao
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I had the weirdest dream last night that they made an AOS animated series which had an episode that made it canon that Bones was secretly a superhuman cursed to remain immortal until he had cured all of humanity's suffering, but also that he gained his powers from the pierogi his mother made in a mall food court. I guess his mother was also immortal, but that was never explained.
This, of course, set off a lot of furious online discourse about whether TAAS (the alternate animated series) was actually canon or not. The cool thing to do when anyone insisted it wasn't was to just reply "ok gene" (as in Roddenberry, who reportedly didn't view the original TAS as canon), and it started trending as a tag. Because nobody capitalized the name, people outside of the fandom had no idea what was going on. Tumblr started speculating that scientists had discovered the "okay gene," as in the gene that made you feel okay, and everyone was saying "brb, gotta get my genome adjusted to add in the okay gene."
It was ironic, I thought, because if TAAS Bones could only actually discover the okay gene, he could cure all of humanity's suffering and finally get some rest.
...I have got to shut off social media.
#star trek#leonard mccoy#star trek aos#star trek tas#gene roddenberry#star trek tos#dreams#my life#bones mccoy#no idea where the pierogi thing came from#tumblr#having dreams about invented fandom discourse is a new low i swear
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Fake Enemies to Lovers Enjoyers: Enemies to lovers only works when [insert thinly veiled description of their fave ship’s dynamic]! Otherwise it’s abusive and toxic!!
These types want so badly for their preferred ships to be the exception to their sweeping generalizations and arbitrary limits on what can, and cannot be explored within the trope. They’re such hypocrites that want to have their cake and eat it too, they want the pleasure that comes from lording one’s perceived moral superiority over others while also enjoying the things that are so similar to what they condemn.
I beg of you…spare me the inane moralizing of your fictional preferences and please just sit down. Stop trying to move the goalposts to suit your specific preferences, stop ostentatiously moaning about what constitutes as what in regards to a broad trope like Enemies to Lovers. It’s a futile game and you look stupid trying to impose moral judgment on what is just a matter of taste
#b-but what if it’s abuser x victim…? OH BROTHER is it *actually* a case of abuse or predation or are you just flippantly applying that labe#to anything?#You know that you like things that would make other antis clutch their pearls JUST ADMIT IT!!#and THEY like things that would make you cringe in disgust. Everyone has their own specific tastes and preferences#You’re not special or uniquely knowledgeable on the subject of romance tropes and it’s actually way simpler than you think#reylo#shadow and bone#the darkling#reylo discourse#fandom discourse#darklina#pro zutara#the cruel prince#enemies to lovers#booktok#zutara#helnik#shipping is not activism
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me during that break up scene:
#cackling maniacally#life is good#bummy bones#buddie canon#evan buckley#eddie diaz#they belong together#buddie#911 on fox#911 show#911 fox#buckley diaz family#911 spoilers#911 on abc#911#911 fandom#911 discourse#911 abc#911 season 8
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This Mapleshade Discourse once again reveals how people, even those who will cheer ACAB, cannot envision a world in which unjust laws of society do not have to be followed, and that rules do not have to be enforced with punishment. "She broke the law, so she has to face the consequences!" How about you take my hand, and I point out the flaws in the rules that govern our society to you and what we can do to combat them, and I show you the research on punitive vs restorative justice, and together we look upon this silly little battle cat story through this political lens to analyze the messages it intentionally and inadvertently sends with its treatment of Mapleshade's character and the characters of other codebreakers, and we kiss softly under the moonlight.
And then we cut open Oakstar and Appledusk and leave them to die from infection. Together. ❤️
LIKE... "She broke the law so she must face the consequences" is such a cold take it's still defrosting. Maybe the law is bad. Perhaps unjust rules ought to be disobeyed. Consider, the consequences are unacceptable; I simply do not think you should be thrown out of your house for having the wrong lover.
Like deadass what do they want her to do. Go back in time and not give birth to them. Do they want her to unfuck that sleazy twink. Insane.
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yeah you know what? I'm going to get into this. "don't humanize villains"/"this abuser is a monster" is some of the worst character discourse in fandom. abusers are not other. abusers are not always easy to recognize. othering someone who's done terrible things from humanity is an arrogant, poisonous idea.
that is a person who is doing those things, and you want so badly to be unable to fall into such patterns of harm and abuse that you will force that person into another category of species altogether, and in so doing you spare yourself from introspection and you give yourself a pretty little pedestal to stand on and you shame everybody who fell for a red flag that is surely so easy to recognize. and you give into prejudice you assign moral values to attributes outside of yourself and you think you are so above doing harm that you could never act in such a way, even as it is a capability within all of us to do so.
get off your self righteous high horse for a moment and use your fucking brain. I'm sick of people in fandom claiming to be the most moral members that are the "only people willing to discuss this" and then every statement out of their mouth is harmful and pervasive word vomit.
#shadow and bone#grishaverse#sab#aleksander morozova#the darkling#sab discourse#anti darklina bs#hannibal#iwtv#rdr2#da2#dragon age#btvs | ats#antis are people who would miss the fucking point of lolita#anti anti#i guess idk i've never tagged anything as that before#myramblings#fandomcourse#abuse mention tw#abuse tw#negative
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oh my god, Senshi mentoring Chilchuck is so endearing and also so so so funny if you know that Chilchuck is middle aged.
Senshi: What a brave and precocious child, that I must mentor and protect
Chilchuck: None of these fucking people know how half-foots age
#dungeon meshi spoilers#dungeon meshi#admittedly I think teaching somebody to cook can happen at any age and chilchuck clearly appreciates it#however it really made me realize that being a halffoot would suck so badly in universe for so many reasons#half-foots? half-feet? new horizons for confusing plurals#also can instantly tell theres gonna be chilchuck discourse I can feel it in my bones
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would it be fair to say that "asexuals can still have sex though" is pretty much the same as saying "lesbians can still fuck men though"?
#I mean the message in both of them seems to be ''you can bone without being attracted to your partner(s)''#but you don't hear the latter as much as the former. if anything the latter seems quite controversial#ace#asexual#ace discourse#I'm not a discourse blog I'm just thinking & wondering#this is not a rhetorical question btw I'm never sure of anything. I'm not here to push opinions onto others I'm here to start conversations#ALSO I do agree with both statements. my issue is when people use the former to disregard asexuality as a genuine orientation
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