#zee zee answers

[zeezeepearl]

wow, who complains about children's cartoons anymore. also 2015 was 10 years ago??

Whatever man I think getting into fights over things that really don't matter is like a normal part of a teenager's development. At some point u gotta move on, tho. SU ended a long time ago and I think at this point if you hate it that much you just gotta let it die. I have my own pleasant memories of watching the show come out when I was recently introduced to the concept that being gay was an ok thing to be and I think a lot of people needed that, latched on way too hard, and expected a bit (a lot) too much of it. Like being betrayed by a best friend, or drifting apart from a childhood friend as you realized you were going separate ways as you grew up.

I think most of us here exclusively watched kids cartoons and anime at a point because we felt like adult shows didn't understand us-- that they had nothing to offer but gross-out humor and shock factor and were just less flashy and entertaining than a cartoon. I don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with that. However, children's cartoons don't owe their adult audiences anything. A lot of people knew this, so they took a "think of the children" approach to their criticism. Which, fine, but think of yourself first.

And besides, for people who hate adult shows for their harder to digest themes, I think a lot of these cartoon crit audiences want their beloved cartoons to be more adult-oriented. Animation is an exciting and visually pleasing medium that often offers more fast-paced plots and expressive characters. But a lot of the crits want Steven Universe and The Owl House to be this and talk about stuff like consent and healthy sexual relationships, and they might want to see those space rocks do a little more than kiss. A lot of fans turn to fanfiction so that they can keep the themes, story, and characters, but change the language, rating, and subject matter to suit their tastes. Nothing wrong with that, I still think fanfiction is awesome, just as long as you can differentiate between what you want the show to be and what the show is.

I guess what I'm getting at is that it's fine and dandy to enjoy kids' cartoons, but discoursing about them is something we really gotta leave in the past. Watch other shows if you don't like this one, block the tags if you're sick of people talking about it, and keep in mind that you are not the target audience.

[ghost-kings-court-jester]

in regards to your mermaid Hua Cheng art, I think if he ever saw Disney’s the little mermaid he would completely understand on why she would give it all up for love and be on her side the whole time for it

Oh totally he completely gets it and would do the exact same thing. Honestly little mermaid kinnie is just the best image literally two red coded girlies against the world.

[aashiqeddiediaz]

I just feel like it's nasty for Hen Chim Eddie to be dancing when Buck looks so upset next to them. Yes, Gerrard being gone, but they should be more aware that their team member is actually not happy. They didn't try to stand up for him either, Buck was the only one pushing back.

i've been thinking about how to answer this for a few days now without being outright rude, and who knows if i managed but here it goes:

hen, chim and eddie don't owe anyone a single thing. it is not their job to stand up against everything, and it is not on them to defend buck at every given turn. they aren't in the wrong for wanting to keep their head down in front of their racist, misogynist boss. it is not the responsibility of people of color to keep standing up for themselves and others in face of such racist and backwards behavior. sometimes the safest thing they can do is just keep their head down.

they say it canonically in the show that hen is trying to keep her nose clean for the sake of getting her foster license back. that chim is in the same boat. hen and chim have dealt with gerrard for years before bobby, and theres always been this underlying current that gerrard will find ways to get them fired if they do anything he doesn't like, even more so now. and eddie has been in the army and knows what it's like to keep his head down - also his job is kind of the only thing he has left in his life anyway?? he can't really afford to risk that, or his parents will never let chris come back to him. if they want to celebrate not having to walk around eggshells at their place of work, then they damn well deserve to.

we saw maybe a thirty second clip about this whole thing anyway. we don't know if anyone talked to buck about it off-screen. we don't know if they even had time for the discussion given that los angeles was taken over by bees and there's a plane about to crash to earth with athena in it?? in that split second scene, we do see eddie telling buck that he saved gerrard's life and we see eddie sort of angle himself in front of buck all the while, too. that in itself speaks volumes.

also you mention buck pushing back - tell me right now that if hen, chim and/or eddie pushed back the same way buck did, they'd still get to keep their jobs. gerrard wouldn't waste a single minute writing them up, or putting formal warnings in their files, whereas buck has at least one type of privilege that they don't have, and it's often the one that people can't ignore: he's white. kitchen and bathroom duty is the worst consequence he has - that is not the same for hen and chim, or eddie. their consequences could involve losing their children, so forgive me if im not so eager to jump to buck's defense here.

yes, buck is conflicted, and he's valid for that cause he's never wanted to be the reason someone's hurt. but to expect hen, chim and eddie to coddle him is just not it.

this is such a pattern with racist people and i've seen it all my life, so getting an ask like this was upsetting, but also seeing this rhetoric in fandom was also upsetting? why is the onus on the poc characters to keep the white characters happy??

tl;dr: hen, chim, eddie don't owe anyone a single thing, and buck is a grown ass man who can handle himself and he can communicate like a big boy if he needs more reassurance :) also, they were so true for that dance party.

[one-lucky-day]

This is a legit question: but why are people upset that Gihun is called stupid when it's canon in the show?

hi, anon. I'm gonna try to answer this the best I can based on my opinion.

while squid game shows gihun as impulsive and irresponsible at times, calling him "stupid" oversimplifies his character.

he’s emotionally driven, kind-hearted, and sometimes reckless because of his struggles with addiction, trauma, and financial instability. none of those things make him stupid or dumb.

gihun actually shows strategic thinking, adaptability, and emotional intelligence throughout the games. he survives by observing, forming alliances, and making key decisions under pressure.

gihun is good with people and he knows how to form bonds which shows he has people skills and social awarness

there are different types of intelligence, not just book smarts but also emotional intelligence, social intelligence, and problem solving skills, all of which gihun has

the issue with calling him "stupid" is that it reduces a complex character to a shallow label.

calling him stupid also shows off great "confirmation bias." it's like people are only choosing to see and notice the parts where he was being "dumb" and not seeing the times where he showed intelligence and strategic skills.

also, calling someone who didn’t get the chance to go to university stupid is just wrong. and thinking this way is really damaging. it makes people who didn’t have access to higher education feel lesser, even when they have valuable skills and knowledge.

this is just my take on it. i don’t represent the thoughts of everyone in the fandom, and they might have their own reasons, but these are mine.

[goldenpinof]

they changed the title of “this game gave us a breakdown”…

literally today, right???

[sweetfushi]

oh em gee i loved the carbon copy son with bokuto imagine taking the little guy to games to watch his dad oh gosh that would be so adorable! amazing work!!!!

oh yes yes yes!! the best father and son duo, thank you nonnie for enabling my thoughts <3

getting your son an oversized jersey that has bokuto’s number and name on it which he insists that he must wear every game (his insistence is bunching it up in his little fist and draping it over his head).

before every game, bokuto will kiss you so sweetly that you’d have to remind yourself that you can’t drag him back home. his forehead will rest against yours for a moment as the two of you gaze into each other’s eyes and wish for the best <3 baby bo will slap your face if you do this for too long though so don’t forget to let him hug his papa :(

obviously bo gets you vip passes!! you guys are far enough from the fans to stay safe but close enough to the court to see every move. once the teams file out on the court and shake hands, bokuto takes the ten seconds he has before the game’s start to find you up in the secluded bleachers and hold his fist up high as his promise to you that he’ll win.

every time baby bo sees his dad grin during the game, he’ll look back at you and coo, clapping his hands together at the sight of his father’s joy. your heart almost stops at the adorable sight.

and when bo inevitably wins? you’re darting out of your seat and cheering so fast, baby bo giggling and waving his chubby hands at his dad, who’s so quick to meet your gaze and flash you his raised fist again.

bokuto always keeps his promises <3

[xysidhequeen]

It’s getting late (for me that is) but what about Jason first meeting with the rest of the council (Frostbite, Clockwork, Pandora and etc)?

You mean: Abominable Snowman, Benjamin Button and Mommy-sorry Step On Me? (Jason's crush on Wonder Woman did in fact transfer to Pandora)

Jason generally likes all of the council, and all of the council likes him in turn because he makes Danny happy.

He met Frostbite first. Danny took him to the Far Frozen to get checked out and to be sure the Baby Ghost was healthy and stuff. Jason had been forewarned and honestly, by that point, yetis were just one of those 'yeah that tracks' moments for Jason. Jason asked Frostbite, as a joke, if he could give him a piggyback ride. Frostbite picked him up, plunked him on his shoulder and booked it. 10/10 Jason had the BEST time. Definitely his favorite doctor.

Clockwork he met next, and it basically went:

Clockwork: I see you found your knight young king.

Danny: Yeah, thanks for WARNING ME

Jason: Who the is this fucker?

Danny: imagine a grandpa given unlimited power over time but retaining the 'stay off my lawn' energy but towards the time stream.

Jason: Ah

Clockwork: Wonderful. Off you two go

He then yeeted (yote?) Them through a portal because a member of the Flash Fam had severely fucked the timestream doing speedster shit. Luckily CW had smashed a hat on Jason's head first and he was in human form so the Flash fam member didn't recognize him. They were a bit too occupied with Danny yelling at them for fucking up and ripping them out of the speed force. The Flash fam member bought them lunch. (This was not the first or last time CW sent Danny to deal with the Flashes. They knew of him, and were all more than a little frightened of Danny. They think he's like. A speedforce demon or something. Theyre glad he eats burgers and not their souls) it was fun, even if they were stuck in the 40s for a bit until they cleaned everything up and got the Flash fam member back in the proper timeline. (You can imagine this as any of the Flash fam)

Jason met Pandora when she came to spar with Danny. And he just. Instant puppy crush. He watched this Amazonian woman beat the snot out of Danny and it was the best day of his life. If Fright Knight hadn't already claimed him as a protégé he would've been begging Pandora to train him. She thinks Jason is cute and is always happy to spar with him when she's around.

[ladyzee-oddityhunter]

So you are messing with the multiverse....shit.

And on my fucking break of being a hero too?! Zee, why the fuck?

@askthedistortedfandomcrew

Language, sweetie.

[dearbisexual]

look at how cutes my stardew house is :)c

[zeezeepearl]

https://www.tumblr.com/zeezeepearl/126877185790/is-super-uncomfortable-about-the-sexualization-of?source=share

honestly... i think the message would have been more effective if steven and connie were older when they fused. giving them a fusion that makes them look older but they themselves aren't REEKS of a problematic intent imo.

Thank you for your input. I made that post 10 years ago and since then my frontal lobe has developed and I've gotten a lot sexier and I couldn't be assed to care about children's cartoon meta.

Depending on where you are in terms of taste and development, I'd recommend shows that handle mature topics in a less condescending and watered-down way. You might enjoy Better Call Saul, or if you really like cartoons, Bojack Horseman. These shows aren't perfect and might not be for you, but it couldn't hurt to try.

[kiki-lulu]

What is your opinion on Zachary's theory?

[ghost-kings-court-jester]

Have you ever read smut on a public transport?

I have read smut sitting beside my grandmother in public on multiple occasions. I have read smut in school and on the school bus at 16 and at both of my real adult jobs I am a big believer on if there is a screen ao3 must be seen.

[one-lucky-day]

love your blog. how are you doing?

any sangihun thoughts you can provide please? 🤲

Hi! I'm doing good thank you for asking! And thank you for the ask!

I love Sangihun and they're always in my head so of course I have a lot of thoughts about them!

Right now, I'm thinking about how, even if it's not in a romantic sense, it's canon that they loved each other. They truly cared about each other. They knew each other growing up; they were a huge part of each other's lives until Sang-woo had to move away for university, and maybe even a little bit after that.

And despite being separated for years, when they meet again, the love is still there deep down. Even if both of them have changed, they still saw each other as that friend they cherished most of all. This is why Sang-woo couldn't kill Gi-hun, and this is why Gi-hun was willing to let go of the money for Sang-woo.

Even if whatever they had didn't survive the hell that was the games, it still mattered and it will always matter.

[zee-rambles]

With the official confirmation from Paramount that there IS going to be an official TV series based on Mutant Mayhem, Tales of the TMNT, that will bridge the gap between MM and it’s sequel(two seasons long), what’re your thoughts? Do you think this’ll hamper any hope for a potential third season of Rise, or do you feel that people shouldn’t be harsh on it and appreciate it for being it’s own thing(I’m very much the latter lol)?

LONG post is LONG, but I really wanted to drive home the importance of this.

I don’t really have an opinion on the Mutant Mayhem show, TBH. I knew it was coming, because Nickelodeon is banking on MM to be a big hit, and it’s not that weird for them to try and squeeze as much money as they can from a new IP. The fact that this new series is going straight to paramount plus and not on Nickelodeon’s main channel is…confusing (Unless it’s actually going to Nickelodeon, in which case, so what? If Nickelodeon can have THREE different versions of SpongeBob airing on their channel, then I don’t see what excuse they can make for not having two versions of the TMNT out simultaneously. They’ve done it before too. 2012 and the Bay films were happening at the same time).

As for Rise, I don’t think hating on Mutant Mayhem or on its related shows is going to do much good. If anything, it’s going to create a divide between incoming fans of Mutant Mayhem, older Rise fans, and Rise fans that are looking forward to more TMNT content. If the show does air on Nickelodeon, it’s not like the kids watching it are going to know the discourse surrounding Rise. Review bombing, hating, and leaving bad faith reviews on anything Mutant Mayhem related isn’t going to bring Rise back. And it’s going to give Rise fans a bad rep, which will end up hurting Rise more, because no one would want to give a show a chance if its fan base is seen as toxic.

Trust me, no one wants Rise of the TMNT to come back more then I do, but I’m not going to go around discouraging or hating on on anyone that is excited for Mutant Mayhem. It’s one thing if you watch and don’t enjoy it, or choose not to support it, I’m not here to force anyone to do anything they don’t want to do, and it’s normal for people not to like something sometimes. If it isn’t for you, it isn’t for you. That happens. But hating it with a passion and posting that everywhere does nothing helpful for Rise.

The best thing would be if new TMNT fans and Rise fans came together to save the show. If more people knew about Rise, the movie, and if enough content keeps the fandom alive, raises interest in the show online, and keeps the show/movie from being fading away into the background, there’s a chance. The bigger the following Rise has, the more people asking for its return, the higher the chances. The more alive it is across social media, the better. What we need more then anything really, is visibility. Not enough people know about Rise. Danny Phantom still has a big following to this day, still has more people giving it a chance because the fans love it enough to keep it going. And people are seeing that. Watch Mojo released a video recently about shows that deserve to come back and Danny was on that list. Spectacular Spider-Man still gets new videos made of it all the time, and the fans STILL, even after all these years, ask for more.

We’re in an interesting position. I don’t think ANY other fandom has ever said, “Heck it! We’ll make our OWN season! Ya JERKS!” So support each other, keep asking for more Rise, keep making art, social media posts, videos, ask Cinema Wins and Cinema Therapy to review the movie, keep sharing and signing the petitions, recommend it to people, anime fans, non TMNT fans (I wasn’t a fan of TMNT until Rise), animation fans and so on. Always ask for the original producers, Ant Ward, Andy Suriano, writers, cast and crew to come back. Word of mouth is a powerful thing. The more people make an effort, the better. And don’t give up. Giving up is the one true for Rise fade away.

TLDR: No, hating on MM will NOT help Rise. BUT! Continuously making efforts to bring back Rise, support each other, raise awareness/visibility, will.

[ladyzee-oddityhunter]

I think I saw a picture of you in a magazine earlier today!

What makeup brand do you swear by?

// @ultimateunshackler 📚

Eeeee that was probably Masqueraide!! ✨ Thank you SO much for the question, my darling!

I will swear up, down, left, and right Magmarvelous is THE best makeup brand out there! It won’t break the bank, and they have a wide range of colors, shades, and finishes for every skin type and look!

As a darker lady, it can be difficult for me to find my shade in a lot of brands, but Magmarvelous has always had me covered 💖 And their waterproof and smudgeproof-ness is top notch! I especially adore their extra glossy lipstick in Cinnamon Applin red!

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[earthmixsclowderofcats]

Just genuinely asking, do you actually believe that ZeeNuNew is dating? (I believe in them)

Oh, this never ending debate.

When I first got into BL these two confused and confounded me for months. It always seemed like people were either very strict and defensive truthers or pessimistic deniers.

Honestly, I went back and forth several times on them, and I think what I have come to conclude is that they're both and neither and whatever the hell they want.

Because due to the parasocial aspects of the Thai bl industry these men (Thai bl men in general) play a version of themselves in public, the same way most people do. Only their public persona is what makes them marketable. It's part of their brand.

That doesn't mean there isn't truth to it.

Fanservice and genuine affection do not exist in vacuums separate from one another. Real life relationships are way more fluid and complicated than black and white.

There are things they do that seem very performative, but I have to wonder if maybe that's just part of their personality and relationship in general. But obviously it is also, at least partly, for the fans. As it is their brand. But again, that's something that doesn't exist in a vacuum.

In a classic, western sense they haven't officially actually come out but rather were like "you can think whatever you want."

(I think this might have changed recently with the language they've been using but I'm not 100% sure due to fan translations being subjective. But like, I'm pretty sure they've said recently in an interview they basically date at work.)

At some point (especially in the past few weeks)I've legitimately just started feeling like a homophobic crone for thinking it was ALL for fan service. Like, those two clearly are very important to each other. They clearly love each other in some way.

It's so interesting because like, in a way these shipped pairs are living their own fake dating au's. And I fully believe there are some people who just committed to the bit to the degree that it no longer became a bit, and I'm pretty sure that's zeenunew.

You can see their relationship change over the years. I don't doubt there was fan service in the cutie pie era. I also don't doubt that those big sappy displays of affection are sincere.

So i used to put them in the category of "shrodinger's ships." They were both together and not until proven otherwise.

But recently I've shifted them into the category of "committed to the bit too hard and now it is no longer a bit."

Because I think it's both fan service and legit, and like, that's just how they roll. If it is an entirely false charade they've been on for years then consider me bamboozled and in awe of their hustle, but in this economy we take all the serotonin we can get.

Also, like, regardless of any outside perspective of their relationship, their personal relationship is going to be what it is or isn't either way. What are we gonna do about it by arguing over semantics and technicalities? What would they get? Nothing. We have literally no stake in this and no influence.