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I love being nit-picky about canon until it's a character I hate. Then I love intentionally interpreting every single thing about them through the absolute worst lens possible. Because I hate them. And I love hating. Hope this helps.
#when I say 'hate'#I mean like. actually genuinely wish-did-not-exist#there are four (4) characters in everything I've ever read/watched who qualify for this#(okay we'll say four and a half because another character like. I don't think I hate the character I hate what they reflect about fictional#trends & what they inspired in fandom. but that's...not really on the CHARACTER you know. so I feel like saying 'I hate them' is not fair)#you can probably infer from context at least like. some of them.#(number one is raul ctrlz btw. I mean not that he needs ME giving him bad-faith interpretations he already does the work himself)#(like genuinely he's just like that. that being said I DO take delight in his suffering and not in a My Blorbo⢠kind of way)#(you want to bring out the worst side of me show me a character within that particular archetype who is incredibly popular)#(I become a raging beast of a monster. my braincells take on lives of their own and become the embodiment of amorphous toxic ectoplasm)#(okay I really am just Saying Words at this point I'm going to go eat something because I haven't eaten anything today GOODBYE)
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This is gonna be a mini rant of at least something Iāve noticed in the fandom.
Yuji and Gojo have such a good freaking relationship and have so many parallels between them. Yet for some odd reason I donāt see it get talked about enough. Or at least outside of the common boring āthey are so father son codedā which I donāt think btw. It gives more friends vibes or older brother younger sibling vibe.
That being said, I remember when I first got into jjk and they were my favourite dynamic. Up until everything fell apart post Shibuya and different characters got introduced and Gojo went missing for a while blah blah blah. And I know people lovvveeeee to center Gojoās character now all around Hidden inventory or shinjuku, but I kinda miss early series Gojo too.
As for their parallels:
An aspect people donāt tackle with Yujiās character is his inherent loneliness. Itās one heās grappled with since he was a kid, he even says so himself when he was talking to Kamo during the baseball game and when he spoke to Megumi about how his physical strength always isolated him in ways that sometimes he couldnāt understand the pain of ordinary people because he was always able to bear it, especially when his grandpa got sick but chose not to do any treatments.
And multiple times it can be inferred from the fact that he never even had a phone prior to coming to jujutsu high, or the fact that the occult club members were the first people he ever actually almost considered friends. I even remember that cute scene where Yuji bonded over movies with Junpei and asked for his number but wasnāt sure how to add contacts on them.
Same could be said with Gojo. Raised as the future strongest of his generation and probably never had any friends until he got to jujutsu high and he finally met someone who he felt he could relate to on the only thing heās ever prided himself on: his strength.
Where Gojo and Yuji differ tho, is Yujiās willingness to embrace a different kind of future. A future where he doesnāt have to be lonely. Where he can have friends and let them in regardless of their strength, morals, or backgrounds. To just beā¦.
Gojo unfortunately never got to really experience that and I wish he did.
People bemoan and rant about how Gojo was treated like a weapon and never really loved by everyone but never actually acknowledge the part Gojo played in that. He drew the line between himself and others, he was the one who placed too much value on strength and trying to replicate a time in his life that he couldnāt get back to. This isnāt to chastise him of course, but in a way his own shortsightedness kept him from seeing the bigger picture sometimes.
Which is why I really loved the final conversation he had with Yuji and how it ties into 236. When Nanami told him that in his final moments he had chosen to bet on the future ( which he never did before), you see Gojo resign himself and finally feel a sense of hope and a little bit of satisfaction because of that conversation and realisation he had with Yuji.
He recognised the ways in which Yuji differed from him. He recognized Yujiās strength lied not only in his physical capabilities but in his heart as well. His strength to forgive and see things beyond just strength as a sorcerer. Itās what ultimately ended Sukunaās curse too. By Yuji choosing to tell Sukuna that they could try again, despite everything, to choose to do better, choose a different path; it touched Sukuna in ways that just punching him and defeating him wouldnāt have worked. Wouldnāt have calmed the rage of his curse that had been eating him from within since the day he was born.
And thatās what Gojo wanted. For Yuji to lead the next generation with a different kind of strength. Itās beautiful and I wish people talked about this more.
Idk if itās the fear of being seen as a shipper or whatever if you speak of Gojo in any other context outside of HI but yeah this is soooo underrated imo.
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Scully the ice queen?
I often see people talking about the āice queenā trope in XF fanfic from the 90s as an example of fanon becoming ubiquitous in fanfic. If you don't know what I'm talking about, this is it in a nutshell: basically, fanfic in the 1990s began to make reference to Scully as a perceived āice queen,ā both at work and in her personal life, meaning that she didnāt express her emotions, that she was repressed and cold. And then that became a thing, a standard trope that other fanfic writers drew on.
My theory is that the āice queenā / Scully association didnāt actually come from specific works of fic or from specific individuals.Ā I also donāt think it necessarily originated in fic and then crossed over into fan perceptions of Scully. I think itās easy for 21st century fans to get the causal arrows mixed up on this because we're missing some historical context. I believe many viewers in the 1990sānot just fanfic writersāactually interpreted Scully differently than viewers now because they interpreted female characters differently. I think people in the 1990s were simply much more likely to interpret women serious about their professional lives as āice queens.ā Especially if their professional lives involved science.
Consider the below female scientist (P.K. Newby) writing about her graduate school experience in the 1990s.
Of course this still happens today, and of course it didnāt always happen in the 1990s. But I think itās important that this impacted actual women living their lives in the same time period, because itās reasonable that this also affected TV audiencesā perception of a character.Ā
I give you this message from the Usenet discussion group alt.tv.x-files, the first season of the show, from before the fanfic Usenet group was even created. This user characterizes Scully as an āice queen,ā claiming to notice a change after Darkness Falls, and even associating it with her skepticism specifically.
(This is me showing you the whole message with the date, then showing you parts close up because it's so tiny. I'm very dedicated.)


So in this (very early online fandom) conversation, we have a fan who already read her as an āice queenā on their own without the filter of fanfic to sway them.
Now please donāt get me wrong. Fanfic definitely took hold of the Scully / ice queen thing and ran with it. There are many examples in the Usenet group during the 1990s of people asking, āHey, which episode was Scully called āice queenā again? and people saying, āOh never, ha, thatās just a fanfic thing.āā It was a well-established trope by at least 1997. See below.
I just want people to consider that it didnāt have to be one writer, one fic, or one incident that led to the popularization of this piece of fanon. This would have been something people understood right away because it already was culturally out there in the interpretation of the character and in associations with professional women. And like the person asking the question in the above message infers, it probably did come organically from several people at once.Ā
That said, some 1990s fans actively questioned it, observing it didnāt seem to fit with their interpretation of the show.
Notice that in the below conversation, Scully as ice queen is mixed up in perceptions of GA as ice queen, too.Ā
(Side note: I mean, you can totally get where that person was coming from, right? Gillian Anderson was TOTALLY giving repressed, cold, virginal saint in 1997.)
As a prolific reader of fanfic, old and new, I think itās also important to add this: it seems to me that fanfic writers more often made āIce Queenā a hurtful nickname that Scully was called by other people (like Mulder being called āSpookyā), not an actual characterization of her personality. And actually, especially given her mostly-male workplace, this seems not unrealistic in the 1990s? Some fanfic writers may even have been writing from experience. (At least, I think I'm right in saying that tendency was true. I'd be curious to know if other readers of old fanfic think Scully herself is characterized as an "ice queen" more often than I'm saying.)
Iām an Old Person. Iām ashamed to admit that in the same time period, I had a high school friend who always studied really hard in school and prioritized grades over social life, and sometimes we jokingly called her an āice queen.ā There was no male equivalent term. So unfortunately, I know this was most definitely a thing outside of Scully and the XF fandom. Fortunately, it does seem to be something we see less of in the 2020s. (At least I think?)Ā I just want to point it out because itās one of those things you could think was just a little fanon quirk concerning this character or this show when really I do think itās about gender perceptions overall.Ā
Very interested to know, though, if others think I'm wrong.
(actual Ice queen)
#the x files#ice queen#dana scully#gillian anderson#90s culture#xfiles fanfic#tropes#x files meta#txf meta#fanon
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Hello! Sorry if you're tired of talking about your older writing instead of the current works which I also love, but I wanted to say I love your characterization(s) of Charon throughout your work and I was wondering if you had any tips on understanding his character's core/just how to write him true to form?
Listen. Listen. I can talk about Charon all day. I love him. I have other hades AUs I havenāt even talked about on here that I think about often to this day and if I ever get the itch, they will be written.
And thatās very kind of you to say. Idk if I write him true to any form, but I am extremely anal about keeping characters as in character as possible. Or at the very least, as believably in character as I can. When I plan on writing a character for a longer fic, whether AU or not, I usually try to find out everything about them and break them down to the bone before building it back up. What is in canon that I can use to build back a believable skeleton that is fleshed by what I can infer from the bones underneath?
So core character concepts for Charon that are in canon that I use:
Greedy - he likes him gold and him stuff. No matter what universe you are writing in, this is one of, if not, the biggest driving factor for any job or hobby he has. He wants money, he likes money, and he knows how to make money.
Protective - of his things, his lifestyle, and the people he cares about. Heāll fight Zagreus, who he likes, if he touches his shit. One of the few emotions you can get out of him in game is anger at possibly uncovering his āthingā with Hermes. He keeps Persephoneās location a secret (thereby protecting her) because either he cares for her or because Nyx does and Charon cares about his mom.
Difficult to discern - in part because heās a big spooky skull man whose face you canāt see and who doesnāt talk, but it also seems to be mostly on purpose. Charon can communicate, given what other characters know more about him, but he specifically chooses not to. What you come to know about him, you find out through context clues, what other people say, and your own sleuthing which leads to-
Extremely private and disinterested in other peopleās opinions about him - to the point, he doesnāt care what the GODS THEMSELVES think. All of them think heās vile and nasty (save for Hermes). The people heās close with know the kind of person he is, and thatās what matters. On top of that, he has his secrets, and he keeps them hidden, one of these secrets being who he is as a person.Ā
Independent - Nyx states she doesnāt worry about him because heās extremely good at doing his own thing and he likes it that way, unlike her other failsons. His intentions are all on his own, and he doesnāt answer to anyone; not her, not Hades, not the gods, only himself. If he is helping someone, it is for his own reasons (maybe because he cares, probably because of money, possibly because Hermes asked).
Clever - Heās literally the head of an underground smuggling ring in game. Like this man knows how to do shit, make money, and get away with it. Heās capable of thinking many steps ahead, and able to plan for the long con.
Methodical - He's got his routine. He rows his boat. He counts his coin. He's mans his shops. He does things his way. He has his methods and he sticks to them.
Patient - that one's a gimme. Heās older than most of the gods and paddles a ferry around at the pace of molasses and doesnāt speak and does nothing to really speed Zagreusā plight along. Clearly he understands and practices patience.Ā
Good Fighter - heāll beat your ass.
Asexual (of some kind) - Aphrodite directly states she canāt get to Charon as he only ālusts after coinā. He is immune to machinations of the goddess of sex and beauty. But not the god of merchants, clearly.
A Gentleman - by Hermesā opinion. Hermes really likes Charon. Please say hi to him for Hermes because-Ā
Charon Really Likes Hermes - no matter what you think is going on between them, if itās just friendship, or professional associates, or heās in love, this is canon. He ignores everyone at the party for Hermes and vice versa. Heās very protective of the thing they have going on. He specifically lets Hermes into the Underworld far enough that Zeus canāt sense him anymore. Hermes hangs out in his shop. Hermes boon is THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE AT HIS LAST SHOP NO MATTER WHAT. I cannot stress how much Charon gives Hermes a pass and how much Hermes seemingly knows about him despite the other core concepts listed above I just- I- AH
Anyways, from those bones, you can start to infer and build back a believable version of the character for whatever you are writing. Is he kind and thoughtful? Probably, given how the people who know him talk about him. Is he loyal? Given how he acts in regards to his inner circle, you could say yes. Does he have a temper? Probably not, given he doesnāt care much about other peopleās opinions nor reacts very much to anything in canon save for very specific circumstances. Is he lonely? Probably, on some level considering heās alone all the time and how protective he is of his buddy, etc, etc, etc.Ā
The bones justify what you are putting on top of them and with that, for whatever thing you're writing, you can build up a believable version of a character. Even in the most extreme of AUs, like in the 70ās and on a beach in America or maybe in a dnd type universe where a character might be a lich forā¦reasons, as long as the core concepts are in place and every decision or authorial deviation from canon the characters make stem from those, it will be fine.
#jacq writes#charon hades#hades game#where is he in the proverbial circus? he's not in the circus. he's selling spiked lemonade outside it after bussing people over to it#he's so fun#again this is all for someone who wants to write in character. or arguably in character#if you don't that's fine#I need to write as in character as possible#I need to hear them in my head#if I don't I'm mad about it#as I was writing this I realized I've been doing the bone arranging for a different character obsessively#oh well its a fun hobby for me#anyways best of luck in your writing anon!#hope this was helpful
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Hi, I started planning my own KND fic, and started with figuring out the ages and birthdates, and I have to ask. 1. How was it for you the process of coming up with a chronology of a show that doesn't really have a set and consistent timeline? 2. In what year does your fic takes place?
My process and answer is long so have it at under the cut
The first part of my process was deciding if I wanted a set timeline or just to go with what worked for me from fic to fic. Over the years (and after watching the series hundreds of times and taking novels worth of notes and screenshots), Iāve settled on a set timeline that works for me and what I like to do.
(Fun fact: I have 3 different timelines! 1 is the main one I use, and the other two are bit more loose depending on the AU I wrote. In one, the GKND doesnāt exist.)
First, I would decide how religiously you want to try and make sense of the timeline the show tries to give us. There arenāt many, but there are a few events that have specific years that can be pinned down. For example, one is the Great Junior High Rebellion of ā99 where the recommissioning module was allegedly ādamaged beyond repairā (maybe they didnāt try turning it off and back on again?). The next one is 1969 where the KND faked the moon landing so adults wouldnāt discover the Moonbase. Theyāre small throwaway mentions, but important if you need some dates to anchor to.
Also consider that (probably almost) everything in season 6 thatās not a flashback happens AFTER Op. ZERO due to the shots of the Moonbase being the rebuilt Moonbase Zero.
Now, saying all that, my next piece of advice may be weird, but honestly, I think itās important: donāt stress too much about it! Details are essential, but getting hung up on them can be a headache and stop the process. As you mentioned, the show doesnāt have a consistent timeline, so trying to make sense of everything will run you up a wall.
Just breathe and pick any year or era you want that makes sense or resonates with you! Wanna set it in 2018 or even in 2024? Go for it!
But why aren't kids/teens seen using smartphones? Maybe thereās super duper strict regulation that keeps anyone under 13 (perhaps even 18 because Father apparently controls the Teen Ninjas) from not having smartphones, and the KND uses 2x4 tech as a way to get around it. Thereās already legislation in the works in the US that does this already to ban kids from using social media.
How come sector V are all in the same grade yet are different ages? Again, maybe in this world, thereās some super weird law the adult villains lobbied for that keeps kids in certain grades for extended times. There was literally an episode that ended with a 4th Grade President going to City Hall and coming out and saying, āby the way, school day ends at 8:25pm now. Sucks to suck, also Father is the best.ā
Let the show's lack of a consistent timeline be an unexpected strength! Besides one or two cultural nods as the show evolves, there's not too much to date it. For example, they make up corporations and franchises to parody real ones and never give the name of a sitting world leader.
Also, itās a cartoon, and their world is not bound to the same laws as ours. Itās not real life! Be silly and stretch things if you need to! If trying to take the show and make it more realistic is your goal, then, of course, do that as well! Just for me personally, I try not to get bogged down with āthis event or timeline doesnāt exactly match up or happen how it would in real lifeā because Iām not writing real life: Iām writing Kids Next Door fighting candy monsters or the living avatars of puberty.
Iām getting off-topic. Anyway, the last piece of help I offer is just (if you can) rewatching the show and paying attention to context clues in the background! In season 5, two shots of a gravestone end with 2005. So, with that in mind, we can infer a few things:
1. From wherever you put that episode in timeline, it at least happens during or after the year 2005.
2. The same gravestone appears again in IT, so everything that has happened up to Rachel deciding to call a game of tag, again, happens either during or after the year 2005.
Take that as you will!
For the next part of your question! If youāre talking about Cold Reception SPOILER AHEAD BECAUSE IT WILL NEVER BE DIRECTLY STATED IN THE FIC! ....
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The year Cold Reception takes place is 2011.
Hope this helps! If not, let me know and maybe I can give more specifics! Good luck on your fic! Writing is fun.
#knd#my writing#my process#timeline creation#worldbuilding#also that bit about ānot real lifeā is just about fantastical elements and aesthetics#asks#always happy to help if i can
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It's ya boi here, I watched the new Gundam Requiem for Vengeance. I wanted to hate it but it was actually kind of good (with some gripes). I would rather die than make a reddit post/comment about my opinion on media so I'm posting it here. I will be talking about spoilers and a non exhaustive list of thoughts.
I'll start with the bad.
So there's the character (not mecha) animation that many people poiinted out looks bad from all the traielrs. It's still not that good but I got used to it. If you look closely you can notice some animation errors that people have been posting screenshots of, but personally I didn't notice them mid watch so I wasn't bothered. The thing that did bother me was some of the sound design/mixing, like a Gouf is shooting the weakest sounding gatling gun ever. The voice acting is okay but there are parts in every episode where I was like "wow that was kind of a bad delivery". From my understanding the original script/voice recording is in english, and then theres a japanese dub translated back to japanese which I'm told from a japanese speaker also sounds weird.
The main thing I've seen people on reddit complain about, and the thing i have the most thoughts on, is it coming off as too much of a pro zeon stance and making gundam fans pro-titans. I'm mixed on this. So the director is a french guy who was wearing a zeon t-shirt in a promo video and said something like "we're excited to show you a story from the Zeon side of the war" which gave me bad vibes but I wanted to wait and see. The first episode has a part where it's trying to evoke the nazi parallels while a guy is giving a speech, but it doesn't have much more of that after the first episode.
Many redditors have pointed to the "the zaku has saved a lot of lives" line. My issue is: What happened a few hours earlier in context? Why do you think he would have positive feelings toward a Zaku? Discuss with your partner what we can infer about this character's background. My issues with people pointing to scenes like that and zeon soldiers talking about their war for independence is that do you think it makes sense for them to be like "btw our side is pretty fucked up, our guys have committed a bunch of atrocities" "oh yeah Loum, where we completely destroyed Side 5 and killed like 2 billion civilians". Basically I think it makes sense in context for Zeon characters to talk about the war like it's patriotic war for independence.
The problem is that the show doesn't really explain the context of the war that well, and it would probably help some people to mention it. Like mention that thing at Loum, explain the start of the war and the 3 second warning and how they've destroyed a bunch of civilian colonies, or that half the human population has died in this war, why the zeon soldiers hate the federation and the conditions that led to them starting the war, and most importantly at least mention the colony drop. I kind of wonder if they wanted to show the colony drop but they wanted to animate it and at some point in production an exec said "yeah no that's too time consuming and expensive, just skip that", but they really should mention that, its like the opening shot of the original Gundam 79.
The show is trying to be a One Year War side story from the perspective of Zeon soldiers, while also wanting to be an introduction for people have not watched Gundam that should be able to explain the context of the war and not glorify zeon too much while still making people care about the characters, doing so in a span of six 20 minute episodes. It's a difficult task and the creators did not seem up to it. I've watched most gundam TV shows, including all Gundam UC timeline stuff and read some of the manga, so I'm decently informed on Gundam, but if I were to show this to a friend that has never seen Gundam and want this to be their introduction I would probably let them know a few important things (like the colony drop). To be fair it has some things that are probably good for introducing someone to the setting, but yeah its leaving out some important stuff.
That's my take that no one asked for on that particular criticism.
There's also some obligatory newtype mentioned stuff because they want to introduce it to new people, but it doesn't play that much into the story and I'm just glad they didn't make newtypes that are basically jedi (cough cough thunderbolt).
So here's the good stuff.
The best part is easily the mecha battle animation. It's cool. I have a goblin brain which demands violence and likes giant robots fighting. The Ex Gundam is truly a menace every time it appears. The mobile suits weighty and there's a good amount of giant robot gore. The design is divisive but personally I was into it and seeing it may convince more people to be into it. The only thing I'm not into is the weird head and eyes on the model kit, but thought it looked much better in the show. There are some technical aspects of the fights that are a head scratcher but honestly I didn't care that much because goblin brain. Like the Gundam is getting circled by three Dopps, and leaps up and slices one with its beam saber, and like yeah imagine cutting down a super fast jet with your sword but also it was so cool and thats what matters. I also really liked the Zaku, Gouf, and GM. I really hope the Gouf and GM get model kits (not pbandai plz) and I would be the first to buy them. The only mobile suit design I didn't like was the Guntank but that's it. Basically the mobile suit fights are a visual treat and that's what I really wanted to see.
I don't have too much to say about most of the characters, but I thought the protagonist Iria Solarii was interesting as far as gundam protagonists go. She's a mother with a ~10 year old son, she had a husband who died a few months into the war and they were both musicians that were drafted(?) into the war but had a good thing going on before it started. The people around her have grown more bitter and vengeful the more they lose while her goal is to follow orders and survive the war so she can see her son again (I'll get back to this). 6 episodes probably isn't enough for the amount of characters they had but I liked Iria.
It accomplishes being a gritty OYW Gundam war story with cool battles and evoking emotions about the tragedy of war, which is basically the best I could have expected.
The thing I'm most mixed on is the ending/last 5 minutes. So far I've seen people saying they don't like it all. On one hand it's so anti climatic the way the random Gouf pilot, and they quickly show the Ex Gundam pilot was a teenager without much time, and Iria just changes her goal from "i want to see my son again" to "a federation child soldier died before my eyes, therefore I will keep fighting against the federation" and these things are sort of ungraceful.
But to me it also kind of works. Like the Ex Gundam pilot dies so suddenly and without fanfare, he won't be remembered or celebrated, and he's one of many teenage pilots in the federation, almost as though for every amuro and other gundam protagonists, there's another of this kid who's skills and accomplishments didn't matter and died as a cog in the machine. The Gouf pilot can't even comprehend that Solari was upset, all he say was the drone that killed the person he cares about. Solari saw the federation send a child to the front lines to help them shoot down the fleeing Zeons, she sees them as the monsters her friends saw and now feels more righteous killing them than she did before, because there is nothing that below them. The Ex Gundam pilot was just a kid, he felt he was righteous in slaughtering all the Zeons because they started this war and have killed many more of his own side. But his mercy is not rewarded because for everyone else the war has dehumanized and driven a wedge between these people. After the war ends the problems that caused it still aren't addressed which is why for decades it keeps repeating. It made Solari more vengeful than she was at the start so she believes she's righteous in staying with zeon remnants after the war ended.
So I think that a tragic, ungraceful, anticlimactic ending kind of worked with what it's going for. Like yeah it's a pretty bleak note and I think Gundam is better when it's both bleak and hopeful, but overall I'm more for the ending than against it.
#gundam requiem for vengeance#Im like 2 hours after finishing it so maybe tomorrow ill change my mind and think its terrible#this isn't everything I liked and disliked but I felt like sharing some thoughts#no i have not watched operation igloo
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The Buried Dagger Take 2 #5
good evening and the next chapter might take place in what is currently Czechia (the white mountain) it's in the rad wastes where the totally rad wolves hang out
surprise! it's loken POV in a death guard novel at the bottom they built a giant cage to imprison magnus lol it's apparently a backup plan in case other better schemes fail i feel like that's a bit optimistic lol how are you gonna grab magnus and get him in there loken wonders if he got sent here as a punishment for failing to kill horus however he comes to see it as a gift he finally has some peace time to meet a new character
loken is NOT a fan of forcing them it's not explicit yet but it's easy to infer from context that they have a bunch of other sisters in a similar state to the one garro found loken is really not going to let them get mistreated, at least as best he can
time for brell to change the subject and bring up that there's a new arrival
it's Garro with the new sister time for Garro and Loken to talk and for Loken to exposit about the White Mountain
oooo Garro pushes about what's up with the Sisters, Loken demurs and Garro accuses him of just being a Malcador mouthpiece and Loken is reminded of the fact that he really owes Garro for bringing him out of Isstvan III and I do have to ask HOW is Garro able to dart all over the galaxy the way he does like is there an actual explanation ugh it's probably something something his faith in the emperor is so pure uwu
LoreLover: The Emperor personally transports him because he is that speshul quietbluejay: sure. why not.
they all speak but they say different things so, Loken figures this is a Horus special
garro is a dumbass and forgets that there's plenty of ways to get traumatized that don't involve daemons which loken says but in a much nicer way well, he probably thinks trauma is something that only happens to people who don't have enough faith in the emperor so garro wants to know what the point is and is kind of fed up with this whole locking up people the imperium is doing Dorn and his librarians, his own death guard dudes, and now this
LoreLover: Don't you know, hard times makes hard men. Trauma is good 4 u (Promethean Sun reference)
loken reluctantly mentions that there's a termination protocol in case things get really bad garro gets mad
LoreLover: Honestly, I expect their recaff machines to have termination protocols in case the thing malfunctions and commits tech heresy by boiling the beans beforehand or something.
you know what, part of why i don't like garro is the same reason i don't like russ they both get all these special exceptions to the rules and act like everyone around them also has it and is just choosing not to use them okay maybe that's mostly garro well there's a lot of reasons i don't like garro lol one of which being if he was not in this book we could have had double the mortarion flashbacks
over to Rubio and he's in the jungle
chill dude you don't have to love the planet no one is making you forget where you grew up
they're tracking down a smuggler surprise, there's another space marine sent by malcador that no one there knows Rubio thinks he recognizes a Fenrisian accent
anyways something ominous is going on and i wish i could get myself to care about it not for the first time i wonder sometimes why i read these books im also concurrently and very slowly making my way through the lost and the damned and boy it is such a slog, i honestly think i might not even cover the rest of the siege
there have been a few decent moments in a morass of molasses okay i attempt to go forwards they find an entire meat locker full of sister of silence prisoners and like at this rate i feel likeā¦the number of sisters here is kind ofā¦. and the flies are back bunch of stuff happens and they exfiltrate the sisters and are heading out when
i did it the evil is defeated
we're back to the present on the Terminus Est and a young Death Guard is seeking the company of the dreadnought why is that, you may ask? welll he wants to know what Typhon is up to (also, RIP Zurrieq who is in the early stages of sickness)
dreadnought dude gets distracted because zurrieq is REALLY not doing well also, heh, he gets called out as being more human than machine because of the level of concern he has oh lovely zurrieq throws up and there's maggots in it and then he starts having a seizure and the regular humans around them start howling and also vomiting black stuff full of maggots
dun dun dunn so ofc mortarion shows up dreadnought dude here doesn't want to show him "i wouldn't wish this sight upon my worst enemy" mortarion internally, irritated: what kind of sentiment is that??? and then he actually looks
zurrieq is a mess and in terrible agony and yet, somehow, still alive there's some discussion over what the virus is it almost seemsā¦intelligent⦠they get interrupted by zurrieq screaming mortarion confirms that there's no chance of healing him and then asks for morarg's knife then against all advice activates the environmental seals on his armour and walks towards zurrieq and yeah he's going to try to mercy kill him i say try because
that's some good horror tbh though it's not spooking me because i don't get affected by this kind of stuff but it's one of my personal nightmare scenarios a bit
Arzach: And THAT IS the passage a lot of peoples conveniently forget about DG fall. « They could ve stand until they diedĀ Ā» No they literally werenāt able to.
anyways it's time to go back to Mortarion's past again the scrappy teenage (and non teenage, lol) escapees have made it to a nearby village it's been a few weeks mortarion is flashing back (in this flashback) to their arrival
(screams internally)
there's an argument about what to do some people think they should return the escapees to necare so he won't turn his wrath on all of them some are straight up calling for calas and mortarion to be killed
Arzach: Morty need a hug so much. quietbluejay: HE DOES i was just thinking "someone give him a hug!!"
in the end, Calas and Mortarion are allowed to stay (and be alive) but are banished to live in this stable at the edge of the village so he stood watch for a few days also the mysterious grey stew is the best thing he's ever eaten
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Arzach: (crying emoji)
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so calas wants to talk about what they're gonna do next it's time to move on mortarion: no i don't want to calas: if we stick together we can survive mortarion: don't you want to stay with your own kind?
tragic backstories for everyone though uh, if he was a baby HOW did he survive
Arzach: Itās not explained iirc. Maybe he killed them with his powers. quietbluejay: no i meanā¦babies kinda need someone to look after them
a bunch of harvesters walk by them
his first impulse is to try and fix things mortarion: they need a hero and i guess i'm what they've got and it starts with him extracting a sickle from a broken machine so he can use something actually for his height they finish a lot faster with him helping calas also ends up helping gather the grain but is a bit derisive lol "you think this is gonna make them like you?"
BLACK HAIR CONFIRMED not that that means anything with these writers⦠anyways they were interrupted by a child getting stuck under a cart is there a Jean Valjean in the house? indeed there is, they got Morty he lifts up the heavy cart long enough for them to pull the girl out unfortunately this all took too much timeā¦. the golems are here unfortunately mortarion left his scythe behind and has to improvise another weapon a flail
the golems are also attacking the village and dragging people off into the toxic fog Mortarion runs back for his scythe and chases after them the human captives are all dead by this point, unfortunately
flashback over!
next time we're going back to the present
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20 questions for fic writers
Thank you @silently--here and @uncannycerulean for the tags!
How many works do you have on AO3?
19 (+ 1 that's waiting to be revealed for a fest)
What's your total AO3 word count?
329,661 š³
What fandoms do you write for?
Just Harry Potter. Maybe I should diversify?
What are your top 5 fics by Kudos?
Live like common people Dramione/Draco pretending to be a muggle (88,794 words)
How did we get here? The sequel to the above, aka Draco wishing he could still just pretend he was a muggle. (153,536 words)
Dragons Only The Draco/Charlie drabble (289 words)
A Song of Ice and Fire and Awkward Ex Boyfriends The other Dramione, this time with dragons. š(20,272 words)
Just a Minerva in time The MinMione time travel one (6,460 words)
Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?
Yes! Unless you're an absolute arsehole, and even then, I would rather reply (but only if I can come up with an appropriate retort). Why? Because I love the interaction. Getting a comment, no matter how small, will always make my day. So, it feels right to at least say thanks. Also, I met one of my now good friends through us chatting in our fics' comments. So who knows what might come of it.
What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?
Hmm, probably One Last Cup.
What is the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?
I've not written the ending yet, but it's going to be How Did We Get Here? If only because I have become waaayyy too attached to all of the characters to give them anything but.
Do you get hate on fics?
It's not quite hate, and I know it could be worse, but How Did we get here? garners some pretty strong reactions. They're a downer.
Do you write smut? If so what kind?
I've only published very mild smut, but I have written more explicit stuff since, and some of it is in the next chapter I'm publishing, and I'm scared.
Do you write crossovers?
No, I struggle enough with one fandom. Huge respect to the people who manage it
Have you ever had a fic stolen?
Not that I'm aware of.
Have you ever had a fic translated?
Nah. They're not good enough for that.
Have you ever co-written a fic?
Yes! Three actually. Idle in Kangaroo Court W1, for the mixed up writer fest. We ran out of steam, so it's unfinished, but I keep promising myself I'm going to finish it one day. Then two more with some friends, one short one for the rare pairs fest, that will be revealed soonish. Then one long fic that 3 of us a writing, which is err... in progress.
What's your all time favourite ship?
Call me a basic bitch, but I will always be such a sucker for Dramione.
What's a WIP you want to finish but don't think you ever will?
I have a really unhealthy stubborn streak that won't let me leave things unfinished, so hopefully none. Though Idle in Kangaroo Court is most at risk, because its been so long (and I feel I have to reach out to my co-author to check they don't mind, and my social anxiety is one of the few things that trumps my stubbornness).
What are your writing strengths?
Dialogue. I keep thinking I should try writing something as a script.
What are your writing weaknesses?
Descriptions and flowery language. I have to work hard at imagining visuals, so a lot of the time I don't. And I'm too literal to do well with metaphors.
Thoughts in writing dialogue in another language?
I've never really had any before. I guess I don't mind it in small amounts, if the meaning can be inferred from context or reactions. It's annoying if you miss something by not understanding what it means.
First Fandom you wrote for?
Harry Potter
Favourite fic you've written?
Oh god, that's like asking me to chose between my children! Live Like Common People will always have a special place in my heart, as it was my first and the characters will forever live rent free in my head.
But also, I'm most proud of Tattletail, because I think it is technically my best piece of writing.
Tagging anyone who wants to play, as I suspect I'm one of the last of my mutuals to get round to this.
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Dear Caroline:
This was very illuminating, but as you say, not that surprising. My naive Venn Diagram for EA sees it as the intersection of Behavioral Economics and Utilitarian Philosophy (alternatively, it could also be portrayed as the friendly, charity-focused front of the Rationalist movement), so your economics background would clearly predispose you to it at least partially. Beyond that, I get the feel that Consequentialism is the philosophy of choice amongst economists: it goes well with a positive evaluation of capitalism, expected value calculations and 'the most good for the biggest number'.
More intriguing is what you say about 'taking ideas seriously', which requires a certain type of mentality - very intellectual, very logical, a bit self-centered, and not too pragmatic or accommodating. I suspected, probably wrongly and extrapolating badly from myself, that teenagers would go along this a lot, the context being them still retaining black-and-white mind frames while having lost their religious beliefs. It definitely did with me, and the danger here is that any reasonably good and plausible memeplex that you pick up has the power to latch on to you like barnacles to a rock; you are very unlikely to go and read other visions and counterarguments, and it will take you ages to purge yourself of dogmatic beliefs.
But by taking ideas seriously I think you mean not only questions of belief and acting out, but of exploring the logical consequences and paths they lead to. I see this making a lot of sentence when you're talking of logic and mathematics, where you can follow the thread of theorems derived from the axioms, and check for contradiction or unlikeable results. I kind of don't see it working that well in real life, though, because of the massive degree of uncertainty, and the way in which a lot of what you'd call Bayesian inference just feels like cooking up bs numbers without sufficient evidence, or even the perspective of having it. The AI risks debate has flared up quite a lot since you wrote this post. I will be reading a couple of books on the topic next year, but it is difficult not to feel two vibes about it which lead to -in cases of doubt- to some degree of flippancy:
AGI doom scenarios look such a distillation of sci-fi uber-nerd cultish, dystopian fantasies that it feels difficult to even start to take them seriously
Then again, lots of people I consider really smart do take them seriously, including some that seem to have started from the opposite side of the fence. But heck, they can all still be nerd-biased one kind or another. And it is all ultimately a castle built on speculations and what ifs.
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To take ideas seriously means that you intend to live by, toĀ practice, any idea you accept as true.
Ayn Rand
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I mean if I had to articulate it more, I'd say it's just that (especially as someone who rematched season 1 a few days ago) season 1 was very good at giving characters "room to breath" and providing extra context behind character's decision making. While there was subtext, you could still reasonably figure out the whys behind every decision a character made fairly easily and I think that made everything feel more immersive (at least to me it did). For example: Marcus is a secondary character that doesn't get much screentime but in the short time we have, we learn his motivations (his daughter), his struggles (the way he slowly becomes disillusioned with the corruption he's participated in by making deals with silco) and we even get a kind of mini arc with him over the season (he does eventually try to stand up to silco even if it fails). We didn't need to know he had a daughter that he cared for but knowing so really helped us understand his character better and made him more engaging in my opinion
I actually think Act 1 of season 2's fine and so is episode 4 for the most part. But I think the root of my issue began when we didn't get to see Jinx's reaction to Vander being Warwick on screen. Like yes logically, I can assume she felt emotional and probably cried and it really impacted her (enough to see Vi) but I think having a scene where we actually see that, plus maybe a bit of internal conflict from her at the prospect of reaching out to Vi would've really made the character decision flow more organically to me? Like maybe we see that she's apprehensive and hesitant at the idea at first because of how their last meeting went but idk seeing Isha, she gets reminded of her old bond with Vi and reflects and ultimately decides to let go of her previous grudge and actually try to reach out because Vander's her dad too or something. A scene like that would've really made their reunion feel more impactful to me
I know we get some verbal justification from Jinx and we can infer that its a combination of Vi probably being in a desperate dark place, the possiblity of seeing Vander again emotionally hitting her and the idea that maybe seeing what Caitlyn did making her a lot more desensitised to the crimes Jinx did, all could've lead her to giving Jinx a chance and agreeing to come with her. But again we didn't really see any of that and I feel like an exploration of some of those ideas or internal conflicts on screen could've been really interesting
For me personally, I can see the outline the writers were going for and I do find it interesting but the way it's communicated so quickly and directly frustrates me because I feel like a deeper on screen exploration of some of the reasoning that led to these decisions (like they would've done in season 1) would've really made some of the scenes more impactful and made them feel more developed and coherent (<- I think that's another thing. To me, season 1 felt very linear and consistent and akin to a very long essay. While season 2 act 2 feels like a bunch of key points noted on a list. There may be a lot of points and I may find the points interesting individually but they haven't been developed into full paragraphs and so they're not really developed enough for me to find personally that compelling). That being said I do still have some hope for Act 3 and again, I'm glad this act landed for you
They really used all of season 1 and season 2 act 1 to hammer in the inherent tragedy of Vi and Jinx's relationship and how, despite the love they had and still partially hold for eachother, several factors out of their control (the majority of which can be seen as the direct and indirect consequences of them and other lower class being actively oppressed and treated like second class citizens by their own government and larger richer society at large) have lead to them both being traumatised repeatedly at an early age and drastically changing as a result and now they're past the breaking point and they've hurt eachother too much to probably ever be sisters again and theres nothing that can be done about it and youre left wondering what could've been.
and then two episodes and a nebulous timeskip after they try to kill eachother again, they reunite and have two scenes of arguing before being like. super chill and a family now. okay š

#I HOPE THAT ESSAY METAPHOR MADE SENSE š i am sorry in advance if it doesnt i am tired and will probablh log off after this#either way i hope this helped a little#txt#arcane critical#long post
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Devi vs. David: aka a comprehensive list of every single time ben gross has referred to devi as one or the other (season one edition)
okay, first things first, i am linking this post and this one, both by @catty-words, because they're so well-worded and honestly, probably explain a lot better than i can about the whole devi vs. david thing (even though those are about s2 and this one is about s1). seriously. go read those, then come back. this post is just going to be cataloging every instance in season one where ben calls her one or the other, with context + insight but i'm likely not going to be going super in-depth. i mainly wanted to document this for my own purposes. i will also be creating a separate post for season 2, so expect that sometime in the near future.
ANYWAYS. here we go, i guess.
"...was just about the saddest thing Iāve ever seen.ā
here we have the first instance of ben referring to her as david. they're still nemeses, obviously ā this is in 1x01, they're not close, they know each other but still only really see the other in the negative sense. (or so we're told, at least; i have a whole theory about how ben has been crushing on devi the whole damn time but we'll get into that at a later date) he calls her david here because it's part of their banter, and we can infer that he has likely been calling her that prior to 1x01. this is also the same instance he refers to the un, which she calls him out for, as she should! but you know what she doesn't call him out for? david. from this very first instance we can infer that she does not give a shit that he calls her david.
"...because you went straight-up psycho and couldn't walk for three months.ā
okay, so bear with me here, this might be reaching, as well as a few others down the line. but i think his tone is softer here than it tends to be when they banter pre-friendship. he knows he's hitting close to her trauma, to the cause of her paralyzation and reason for seeing a therapist. calling her david while referencing to her biggest trauma just would not be in good taste, imo.
"...I know how hard it is to memorize seven facts.ā / "Yeah, Devi, please share your mumble with the rest of the class.ā
ok, so they're in a classroom setting, and he has just, in his own words, "pwned" her as her "intellectual superior" (way to be humble, benjamin). he's got this hoity-toity air about him in this scene, calling her devi because it's more mature of him and as her "intellectual superior" he should appear that way. also, they're in a classroom setting and shapiro is paying attention to them (not that anyone else in the class is lol)
okay, so he doesn't refer to her as either devi or david after 1x02 until we get to 1x05. here, he's on the defensive, obviously. she is threatening to nuke him. literally. no time for banter or nicknames when your entire country is about to be wiped out, am i right?
he doesn't know why she's mad at him yet. he's trying to slip back into their banter, to worm his way back into that sliver of not-quite-nemeses-anymore-but-still-not-quite-friends that they had going on for all of two seconds in 1x05. he wants to go back to normal, or at least some version of normal, where she only hates him because of their academic rivalry and not whatever it is sheās holding against him now. (which of course he immediately learns is the whole sleeping-with-pax thing, but he still doesn't know why she's upset about that.)
this is obvious i feel like i don't have to explain that he calls her devi here because he's having dinner with her family lmao anyways moving on
"...I actually think I am going to have a party tonight.ā
boy is crushing HARD. he is SO JEALOUS. speaking up immediately after pax makes the "you look great here" comment? having a party just so devi will come? ok, jay gatsby jr, i see you. ANYWAYS. imo he calls here david here to take back some of the control he just lost after pax showed up. because "david" belongs to ben and devi and nobody else.
the smile on her face in this scene when he greets her. the smile on his face when he sees her. they are in love, your honor. anyways. this is, imo, the first time we see david being used as a term of endearment. their friendship has been solidified after the events at the end of 1x06, and it shows. she is excited to see him and he is, very obviously, excited to see her.
"...Um, did something kinda weird happen? Or did I do something dumb at my party?ā
aaand we are on the defensive again lol. david once again being used as a means to control the situation and deflect away from that horrifying failed kiss attempt back in 1x08. Ā dude is freeeaaaking the fuck out, because he knows now that he has this stupid big crush on devi (that heās probably had the whole damn time, even prior to 1x01, if weāre being real here), but he just got her as his friend and doesnāt want to screw it up. so. blame it on the booze. throw in a friendly nickname. hope for the best.
obv i don't have like, concrete evidence for this because we only see the literal last day she stays with ben, but i have this theory that during her stay, he defaults to calling her david to keep his guard up. because again. he knows he has this stupid huge fucking crush on her. so, keeping up with the old nickname helps establish those boundaries in his head. (this is also the last time we see him refer to her as david in season one.)
but then there's this, immediately after he refers to her as david in front of his father. because he is worried about her. because she is making rash, dumb decisions without thinking anything through (you know, like trying to get emancipated from her mom and refusing to spread her dadās ashes)
again, he is going for serious, worried as fuck, for the same reasons listed above. hoping that her friends will see reason for concern just like he does, because his friendship with her is so new and if sheās going to listen to anyone, it's going to be them. this is the first time we ever see ben refer to devi to other people without her being present, and this is also the last time we see him refer to her as devi in season one.
#long post#ben gross#devi vishwakumar#benvi#ben x devi#devi x ben#never have i ever#nhie#i don't think this is technically a meta but should i tag it as one anyways?#fuck it#meta#never have i ever meta#nhie meta#devi vs david
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iāve got like 20 mins until my bus shows up and iām bored so, at risk of being mobbed by that specific brand of over-30-cishet-female-mat-baynton-stans, i would like to talk about why i think transfem thomas thorne could actually be a good route for his character growth !
(but itās below the cut bc itās long discussion </3)
so obviously being infatuated with alison is an integral part to thomasā character, aside from being a terrible poet itās one of his most identifying traits. even in episodes where heās tried to āgrow out of itā (see: s4e2) heās still back to his original state at the end of the episode (and while this could be chalked up to the fact that you stays how you dies and therefore canāt grow as a person i would like to raise you this: he obviously was not obsessed with alison when he died, therefore i think thereās still some hope for him yet) anyway ! got off track a bit there,
thomas canāt āgrow out ofā loving alison until he recognises why he loves alison - or perhaps, the idea of alison (now this could lead onto a talk abt why i also think and hc that tom is aromantic but people have covered that before)
letās backtrack for a moment and review what exactly we know and/or can infer about thomas: heās unlike the other men we see in the thomas thorne affair, his interests, opinions on romance and accumulated skills arenāt particularly masculine.
heās very creative (just because heās bad at it doesnāt mean the drive isnāt there), adores the arts (written word, paintings, songs), he clearly values women for who they are as people (and to a degree, their looks) and bases his affections on that, as opposed to financial gain (squints at francis button), and he clearly hasnāt had any experience when it comes to duels or fights in general and his general ālayaboutā personality would definitely reflect the fact that rich women in the 1800s had very few responsibilities and obviously werenāt expected to work.
now, all of these arenāt inherently feminine traits, this is obvious, we all know this, iām not saying that men canāt do these things. kindly donāt take my words out of context, but in the case of a man who lived in the 1800s, they can be seen as pretty feminine. this also isnāt the basis for my argument, i just want to point out a few things before i get into the meat of it !
and slightly less solid reasoning: mat baynton just plays him really fruitily. if you asked me to explain it i donāt think i could, but cmon just look at him
anywa, itās pretty much an accepted part of the fanbase by now that thomas is bad at recognising what sort of love heās feeling, and i raise you this: what if the desire heās feeling for alison isnāt romantic, but is instead, desiring to be her.
(if youāre a lesbian, this is a familiar concept: do i want to date her or be her?)
he could potentially see elements of himself in alison, her own appreciation for art, and maybe even traces of the physical self (slim, white, dark haired? - this could also support the reasons why he was such a strong interest in lucy, who also shares these features, but hasnāt expressed any canon interest in fanny or kitty. mary is a bit of an outlier here but itās whatever, my hc just has pockets ig). and when we have a great appreciation for someone we can tend to idolise them a little. in thomasā mind, alison could potentially just be an idealised version of who he wants to be, and in his own confusion when it comes to recognising that fact, he could be mistaking admiration for adoration.
thomas is very clearly an idiot, the entire series is proof of that, and generally unless the facts are laid out right in front of him he doesnāt Get things. when we consider the fact that transgenderism was extremely uncommon and likely incredibly underground, thomas probably doesnāt even know itās an option outside of the way that literally everyone ponders what it wouldāve been like to have been born the opposite sex at least once in their life.
so why do i think this would be an effective way to fix thomasās weird infatuation with alison?
well, at this point in the series itās obvious that thomas isnāt just going to stop ālovingā her, there needs to be some big wake-up call that makes him stop. however, i feel that the longer ThemThere keep dragging out this part of his character, the harder itāll be to bounce back from it. right now weāre lucky that thomas is such an avidly romantic character, his obsession with alison is uncomfortable enough as it currently stands but at least we know itās innocent and emotional. but as the series goes on i just worry that that line could start to blur.
at this point, thomas suddenly moving on from alison seems entirely unfeasible and he would definitely need to have some element of identity rocked to really consider what it is about alison that heās obsessed with. of course iād be completely happy if that happened to be the fact that heās aromantic or aroace but i just think thomas ending up transfem would be an interesting route to go down as an alternative (bc i know some people are very much ride and die when it comes to certain ships. and iāll admit, i do appreciate a bit of romance between tom n different characters)
i feel like it would also be a better justification for his infatuation with her aside from just ātoo much loveā (thomas thorne=ashfur.?), obviously all obsessions are a bit iffy but i feel like if it came from a place of āi really want to be her and donāt know how to express thatā instead of just āi want herā it would be a bit less weird. less creepy i think? and itās an issue that can actually be worked through and addressed properly with ways of helping thomas transition instead of telling him to simply stop loving alison.
plus it would make all their interactions just so much sweeter !! whenever they talk iām always on the edge of my seat waiting for thomas to make some weird remark but augh!!!!! they could b girl best friends !!!!
and itās not like the cast is adverse to playing trans women ! gabriel and ho-tan are such beloved characters, gabriel gets her happy ending and even though ho-tanās wish is reversed itās still very much implied that they respect her identity (i do wish they had explored or at least addressed this more though) (however, ho-tanās femininity is never the subject of a joke like gabrielās is, so i suppose they even each other out)
anyway my final reason for tom being transfem is that dear god iām jsut a simple lesbian please please let me have this i wonāt ask for anything else i swear
#bbc ghosts#thomas thorne#i know using he/him pronouns for the entirety of a post about transfem tom seems a little counterproductive#but it was mostly just for the sake of simplicity#also apologies for how much this absolutely tears tom. i prommy i love this stupid poet#i was a little hesitant about posting this tbh. i jsut hope it finds the right audiences#usually i donāt just randomly genderswap a character but the current male to female ratio in the ghosts casts isā¦. tugs collar. um anyway#sorry for being a lesbian (iām not sorry)
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it bothers me a little bit that people consistently mistake Frank for being a person, despite how often and how clearly you explain that this isn't the case. I guess that LaMDA makes more sense in the context of Frank, though, sad as it is; my most immediate reason for disbelieving claims about LaMDA's sentience was that the chat logs, even after editing, weren't half as interesting as Frank, but the fact is, there are people who can be convinced by LaMDA, & Frank is many times more convincing.
A few points...
First, there are different kinds of "mistaking Frank for being a person."
The most common one is the one where people say something like "haha, this almost got me! I thought a person wrote this post until I checked the bio." This seems innocuous -- like, out of context, plenty of individual Frank posts really are indistinguishable from regular tumblr posts. (Regular tumblr posts are often really weird.)
I assume you're talking instead about the thing where people say Frank "might be sentient," or similar.
I wouldn't be too hard on people for this. Consider:
People often seem to be at least half joking when they say this stuff.
Lots of people follow Frank without following me. (More people follow Frank in total than follow me.) I don't think people can (or should) be expected to read my posts about the bot before reacting to it.
I don't think most people have a clear idea in their head what it would mean for a machine to be "sentient." (I don't either.) So I don't think these people are making some precise, but wrong, philosophical claim; I think they're just talking in a vague, casual, bantering manner.
It's a standard sci-fi trope for characters to talk about an AI "gaining sentience." Even in sci-fi, it's often not totally clear what this is supposed to mean, and usually just seems to connote "self-aware in some vague sense" and/or "advanced, intelligent, capable." People are much more likely to have picked up the term from this source than from serious philosophical attempts to define it.
So I think these people are really just saying some version of "wow, this bot is impressive," in the terms they've picked up from sci-fi.
It's probable that they've been misled by sci-fi to think that "advanced, intelligent AI" naturally goes together with "AI that is self-aware in some vague sense." So when they see Frank improving over time as I develop, they (wrongly) infer that Frank must also be gaining some kind of self-awareness property.
But here, I think Frank provides useful education! People can see the bot impressing them, and doing new things over time. And they can also notice, over time, that there are some really fundamental limits that don't just go away with increased capabilities, like they do in bad sci-fi.
My hope is that going through this process with a neat, but not-state-of-the-art, chatbot can "inoculate" people against reacting the way Blake Lemoine did to a more capable (but similarly limited) chatbot like LaMDA.
And to be fully clear -- this is probably the most important point -- I have not seen anyone react to Frank in a way that was near as wrong-headed as the way Blake Lemoine reacted to LaMDA.
Blake Lemoine wasn't just making a tumblr post saying "ha ha, what if the bot is sentient." He really was (attempting to) make a philosophical claim, and he went straight to the press with it -- without, as far as I can tell, thinking as hard about LaMDA's potential limitations as most Frank users do about Frank's.
(Blake Lemoine is a super weird guy in general, as will become clear if you look into his background. I think the LaMDA sentience story is best read as a story about a particular weird and very abnormally gullible guy, who isn't representative of how most people will react to these systems.)
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if you want council of nikaea incident specifically itās A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns, but by āread upā I kinda just meant dig into the lore in a general sense, since if you wanted a direct look at the other brothers they have their own shining moments ofā¦whatever they do and separate book lists to go with them (thanks Black Library. I think.) I mean the default standard for Everyone, At Once, is just āgo read every Horus Heresy book and come back when youāre doneā but thatās a bit unrealistic.
For instance, just using le internet searching for info, looking at an overview of Nikaea, Mortarion is one of the major people pushing for the psyker ban to happen, so we can infer from this that he hates psykers (true, major part of his character). a cursory look over mortyās page says he also is a low-grade psyker, alongside his oldest friend, though he rarely acknowledges either of these facts. we can infer from this that he hates himself (also true, the other major part of his character) and that also heās the kind of person to suggest hatecrimes while his bestie is part of the hatecrimee population, which says a lot about his spine, (itās about as strong as a worm on a string) (plot relevant) and about how he treats aforementioned bestie (not great) (also plot relevant)
(mortarion likers i say this with all the love in my heart i promise donāt leave me) (ur man is like that tho)
anyway, obviously this is a basic launch point to understanding Mortarion, but Magnus' reaction to Mortarion in this situation also gives us a lot of info on Magnus. Generally, Mags does not like or trust Mortarion (shocker), but wayyyy later, after things have gotten significantly worse, Magnus helps Mortarion. Like, pretty significantly. With his psyker shit. Ostensibly, this is so Morty'll be better able to aid him when they march together in the Heresy, and it is at least in part a sort of selfish compassion (knowing Mags it is also probably a high dose of Showing Off as well), but considering the animosity between the two, and that there are definitely other primarchs who Would Not Have Done That, thaaaat says something about Magnus. What that might be would take another essay lets not get into it you get the point.
lexicanum/related secondary sources are not entirely accurate and occasionally make unfounded character judgements or leave things out, but it is a good place to start if youāre just looking for Base info, especially if you already know one character to orient yourself (and it is obviously more accessible than buying ten billion BL books). If you see something that grabs you in the overview, or you want to confirm a reading isnāt some unreliable narrator stuff, then you can go find the associated book(s) and dig in. (like that later Mags and Morty bit, if I wanted to properly analyze that I'd have to track down the source (Saturnine) and make sure I wasn't missing any context)
Anyway, if you wanted a rec that is not Magnus centric, knowing you like magnus I would probably suggest starting with his Greatest Hater, Leman Russ whose reading list.
um. starts with A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns. Nikaea was important ok!! and Leman and Magnus have gotten into some Serious Spats that are deeply important to the setting and show both of their characters ok ok iām shutting up.
and then Wolf King and Wolfsbane.
anyway best of luck, enjoy the boys šš»
Eerrr i should probably learn about the other primarchs... i only know magnus tbh- i kinda know gulliman, vulkan, and fulgrum or however you spell them... hut like theres more than 4 i should do my research š§
Also peter griffin or whatever that angry one's name is
#?#i respond to everything genuinely bc#well. idk iām undiagnosed gjdhdhdhdh#ANYWAY#leman being left off the list was part of why i was curious#i learn characters through how they react to the world around them and to others#like I couldnāt talk about emet selch in a vacuum#iād have to tell you the whole plot of ffxiv bc just the fact that he only appears four expansions in is CRUCIAL to the way he interacts#with everyone there. and the way everyone interacts with him. which affects the way he interacts with them.#and leman and magnus are so aggro at each other itās a core tts bit#that kinda rivalry is only Kind of reached by lorgar and corax#with gman and lion a distant distant third#ok anyway#POINT. what was my point. oh yeah#this kind of character information hunting may be unusual i guess but i think iām extremely used to it from the silm fandom#where even the source book itself doesnāt tell u shit about the characters directly#it is aaaaall based on āwell x is nice and y thinks x is a weak and spineless idiot so y must have some kind of complexā#that is a simplification. ftr.#people ask me how to /write/ characters too#same shit#ITS ABOUT THE INTERACTIOOOOOOOONS#meg speaks#wh40k#also for the record#i am not a person who knows primarch book reading lists off the top of her head#thatās redditās job everyone say thank u reddit.#and never ask me for anything if you donāt want a seventeen paragraph response. sorry i donāt do short form anything
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Why SpeedrunStreamer!Bubby?
So, if youāve read the Streamman series or seen my posts, youāll know that I decided that after being extracted from the game and starting a new life in a custom program, Bubby starts doing speedrun streams on Twitch. This may seem like a strange character choice, especially when Bubbyās not exactly the character most closely tied to video games. As such, I thought Iād share some details about where this concept came from and how this goes down.
Canon Basis
Bubby may not talk about games and game culture all the time, but he's not completely tech illiterate. He's one of the few characters in HLVRAI who uses the term "pog" in its modern context (though both characters do so incorrectly)
Pertaining to speedrunning: the Rocket Launch scene. We don't know exactly what Bubby sees when he takes the rocket into "outer space", but given the outcome of Coomer clearing the skybox earlier, it can be inferred that Bubby catches a glimpse of what's outside of the map. Unlike Coomer, however, Bubby doesn't respond to this with outward fear. In fact, he's fascinated, and chooses to "go back" for another look. Game breakage does not upset him, it just makes him curious.
"I need to perfect my run."
Extrapolation
After living in the facility for ?? years with a constant schedule and job to do, Bubby's going to need to occupy his time now that he's more or less retired. He loves trains, so he's probably one of those guys with a model railway in his basement, but he's also got a hunger for learning new things and accomplishing great tasks.
One of the ways he's coming to terms with being an AI is by taking advantage of what he can do that someone not living in a computer can't. It doesn't come as naturally to him as it does to Benrey and G-Man, who can more or less warp reality, and he doesn't have the same knack with computers as Darnold.
Then one night when they're all watching shit together Gordon shows them the notorious Super Mario 64 Watch Out for Rolling Rocks 1/2 A-Press explanation video. The flood of technical terms and methods makes Bubby feel like he did when he was on the rocket, and he needs to see more. New Obsession Unlocked
Bubby is used to attention. He doesn't need to be the center of the world all the time (though he definitely did when he was younger) but he's accustomed to being in groups. Now he's living in a neighborhood with a small handful of people. He needs interaction with other people, but there just aren't really other people around. Joining an online community lets him talk to people, and doing so by setting up a twitch channel means he can interact with people on his own terms by showing off doing things he likes.
Gotta make money to buy new games somehow. Plus he wants to feel like he's living independently and making his own living for once
Results
Depending on the game Bubby will do his runs either playing traditionally or by physically inserting himself into the game ACAB Stream-style. Both require very different skillsets and a lot of practice! He gets the best viewership for the physical ones, but they're a lot more taxing on him so he chooses them carefully.
Darnold does producer work for him. Look he's the Computers Guy and it's neat work.
He's set a couple WRs in various categories. Unfortunately, he does not qualify for most leaderboards, as it's up for debate if his runs count as scripted or tool assisted. Since, y'know. He's a program.
"Tool assisted? The fuck did you call me?"
As a workaround he made his own category, Bubby%. This has not been accepted by many leaderboards since competition is nonexistent.
He recognizes that many of his viewers are there for the novelty of watching someone they don't perceive as human play video games. Sadly, he's used to that sort of perception, but at least that means it's not a deal breaker.
For every person who sees him as a curiosity for being an AI, there's at least one other who sees him as a curiosity for being over 65 and playing, like, Super Metroid and Spelunky. And another viewer who thinks he's a vtuber hoax but likes the content.
Not all of his streams are speedruns, he does some casual stuff too. Sometimes he'll fuck around with party games with Coomer or do gmod stuff with Benrey.
He didn't tell Gordon about his channel for several months. Not for any personal reasons, he just likes to have secrets.
His chat has a running joke of speculating when he'll finally stream Half Life. He cracks a lot of jokes about it, but he's never going to do it. That experience is something extremely personal, and he's not going through it for someone's entertainment. Not again.
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10 Mistakes to Avoid in Action
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Over-Describing
When it comes to action, it helps to remind yourself that readers like to inject action with a hint of their own imagination. They can fill in the blanks very easily with written action scenes, because unless otherwise stated, a reader will assume that the characters are moving quickly with a lot of precision and a lot of energy. Try to comb through all of your action scenes and ask what your reader can and canāt infer. By all means, hint at the highlights and intensify focus on important details or symbolic moments, but the action is not why theyāre here. Theyāre here for the progression the action creates.Ā
Superhuman Pain Tolerance
As it turns out, getting hurts is painful. Getting hit or kicked or stabbed or shot is painful, and unless the injury was very light or minor, itās gonna hurt for a while. Even if your character is the type to repress their own feelings and ignore their pain, some inability due to pain or injury is unavoidable, especially if your character is simply human.Ā
No Internal Events
Action scenes are about more than what the characters are doing with their body. Itās mentally taxing, and incredibly revealing how an action scene plays out. Use this to your advantage. Use body language, pacing, emphasis, and expression to show how your character is feeling, what theyāre thinking, and portray the larger implication of the scene overall.Ā
No Stakes
Every action scene needs stakes. Itās a simple truth, but one that is often ignored or excused away. Even if the action scene is for āentertainmentā, it needs to play a role in pushing the story forward somehow. Create a smaller conflict that the characters attempt to solve, resulting in the fight scene, and then revealing a larger truth about the overall plot or developing the characters themselves. Someone needs to have something to lose or something to gain.Ā
Scene Accomplishing Nothing
I touched on this in the last point, but any scene whose sole purpose is āentertainmentā will probably be cut in the final draft because out of all moments to make up the final product, a meaningless action scene is the quickest to cheapen it, at least to an audience. There must always be an immediate purpose, and an overarching place in the story.Ā
Thoughtless Character Actions
What your characters do is revealing. Body language is the hardest to manipulate to suit oneās own agenda, so the way your character fights can do an incredible and efficient job of developing them. Be intentional in your choreography of action scenes. Question why your character would choose to lunge at that moment and shy away in another. Why does this character avoid the physical confrontation versus another character who actively seeks it out as the ultimate solution to the problem?
Destroying The Suspension Of Disbelief
Your reader can let a lot of improbabilities slide, but not everything. There has to be some logic in the way action scenes play out. Where did that helicopter come from and who sent it? How are they all communicating with each other despite being miles apart? Where is this endless hoard of enemy soldiers materializing from?Ā
Editing Too Kindly
Cut out what doesnāt develop the story or the characters. World building can be an iffy task during an action scene, but occasionally those moments are valuable. Action scenes should never occupy too much space, because thereās only so many words a reader can read in one sitting in which characters attack each other.Ā
Muddy Descriptions
Be succinct and precise in your description. Avoid filler and excessive context, and please donāt spend paragraphs describing the city center before the upcoming action scene results in it being destroyed.Ā
Be Intentional With The Tone
Tone is everything. Where the tone begins and where it evolves to is so, so telling about your story and the characters within it. If your action scene starts with a funny moment that is interrupted by an abrupt and unexpected attack, follow through with an appropriate tone like smug victory. If it starts with a devastating loss, the ending should be equally impactful.
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