#wof thoughts

[scrollwyrm]

Some Headcanons about Pantala because AAAASNMSKAKAMA

The mountain range of Pantala is said to be cursed because of the mysterious ruins there, which Wasp destroyed all evidence of. This is because they held the BeetleWing palace. It is generally avoided because of this and because of the extremely harsh conditions.

SilkWings can be (almost) cleanly separated into the more moth-like SilkWings (thicker build, floofier, slightly duller scales, larger wings, but smaller overall) and more butterfly-like SilkWings (slimmer, longer antennae, less flexible wings, curled claws, MUCH flashier colours).

HiveWings aren’t all descended from ClearSight: when ClearSight saved everyone, BeetleWings started trying to have dragonets with more black scales as a tribute to her. The only HiveWings really descended from ClearSight are the royal family: the idea that all HiveWings are her family is (VERY) old propaganda to make HiveWings seem superior.

LeafWings have a weaker version of RainWing photosynthesis.

[resident-wof-expert]

Unsorted WOF thoughts part 149:

Hvitur died and failed to get the SkyWing egg back to the Talons of Peace. ->

Glory was brought in as a replacement for the lost SkyWing. ->

The Dragonets escape the cave early to save Glory's life. ->

The Dragonets fulfill the fake prophecy on their own merits.

Conclusion:

Hvitur died for your sins.

[onlystupidity]

Nightwings and Seawings probably look crazy at night.

Ok, so nightwings and seawings are the only tribes that are actually confirmed to see in the dark. (I think, I haven't read the books in like 2 or 3 years) So I kinda just assume that the rest of the tribes can't see in the dark very well, much like humans. So I'd bet if you had a light source with you at night and shined it just right by accident at either 2 tribes.

(Drawings of Turtle I did just for this thought.)

Ok, that's all I had to say, good bye.

[ilikebookssomuch]

do we think Jade Mountain Academy has any breaks? Do they have a month or two long break to visit family? When do they graduate?

Does anyone else want a winglet book with what classes there are and how often winglets collaborate, who teaches what, when do they get up, do they have detention and is there a "principal's office?"

[solstice-system]

Does anyone else ever wonder what the beauty standards are in wof? Like they’ll often describe a dragon as beautiful but like what is beautiful for a dragon??? Maybe it’s the facial structure or snout size idk. If anyone has any thoughts on this or headcanon, I’m very curious to hear!

[wingsoffiretings]

gill is depicted as light green in TDP but what if that’s due to the lack of water. when humans are very sickly they tend to get pale. i bet that happened to gill too. i imagine his natural scales were more close to that of auklets. just a thought.

[the-leafiest-leafwing]

since queen coral always forgets her sons’ names, it’s probably reasonable to assume she doesn’t name them, but do we think it was gill or someone else in the court who is appointed to take care of them? or did they even pick their own names when they got old enough? having a lot of thoughts about the seawing princes rn like how neglectful WAS coral really, did she take care of her sons at all and did she even bother to have other dragons looking after them and teaching them? probably yes, because they’re royalty and all, but i wonder what their lives are like. also does constantly popping out eggs like that have any physical effect on coral? how does procreation even work in wings of fire

[troythecatfish]

[aposematic-jessica]

Rereading wings of fire and like. I forgot how violent it is. I guess you always forget how violent the stuff you read as a kid is. Kestrel bites and hits and hurts the dragonets, and they all just. Have to take it. They know that neither of the other guardians will stop her or help them. They don’t try to teach any of them about their cultures, they don’t try to help them learn to make good decisions. I mean, what do they need to learn to fight for? I think Kestrel just wanted to hurt them, honestly.

And then Clay and the other kids watch their foster father be brutally murdered in front of them by the second new adult they’ve met in their lives ever. And that’s AFTER finding out that the FIRST new adult they’ve ever met has instructed their only guardians and parents up to that point to kill one of their adopted siblings. And Clay has to listen to his adoptive mother agree to kill his sister! And he has to tell her and the rest of their siblings that, and she just… accepts it! I think we gloss over how easily Glory accepts that her foster mother is planning to kill her in her sleep that very night.

The narration describes the sound of Dune’s corpse on the ground. Clay watches his guardian, one of the only three adults he knows, die in front of him, despite his best efforts. Glory watches one of her abusers be murdered in front of him, and then she’s taken captive and used as living decor by the murderer! I think it’s also pertinent to mention that the closest thing any of them have to a therapist is one of their other sisters, whom they unilaterally treat as being generally too dumb and friendly to be of any real help.

Of course they’re all relatively well adjusted and most untraumatized because this is a children’s book that I personally was introduced to via a scholastic book fair. We don’t really have space for the kind of cptsd responses that these kids absolutely would have. They all pull through more or less evenly rewarded by the narrative. Clay gets to meet his sibs and has his place in his adopted family reaffirmed; Tsunami gets a sense of personal and cultural identity kind of thrust onto her; Glory gets to say “fuck you all” to everyone who was ever mean to her; Starflight gets a gf; Sunny finds her family and becomes a princess. Tbh the boys are the ones who lose out the most, Glory Tsunami and Sunny all become royalty. Poor Starflight. But hey, your adoptive sister is now technically your queen, so yay? Sorry Clay, don’t think Queen Moorhen will be inviting you to family dinner.

I would love to see some theories or fic that touch on what a more realistic portrayal of their symptoms and healing might look like. I’m not educated enough to make any guesses as to what kind of psychological scars being raised in a cave as a chosen one might leave.

[wingsofmud]

Is it just me or is the introduction of Thorn and the Outclaws really weird in The Brightest Night? I feel like they're given a villain intro with a sprinkling of good inside that, compared to everything else, feels slightly sinister and we're kind of just supposed to forget about it later.

[scrollwyrm]

What are SeaWings like outside of Coral’s close circles?

Something I’ve come across in the Wings of Fire fandom, and the series in general is that nobody seems to think about SeaWings who aren’t involved with the royal family. We haven’t even canonically met a single SeaWing who isn’t tied into the top tier of SeaWing society.

Sure, there are JMA students, but firstly, we don’t know most of them very well, and secondly, they were selected to go to the school by Coral, meaning their families must be fairly important to her in some capacity.

I guess the closest we came to these dragons was Nautilus and Squid, but they are barely mentioned, and while their experience would be interesting, Squid was raised away from the Sea Kingdom for the most part, so we wouldn’t learn much from him. Nautilus is the most likely canon character to be completely separated from Coral and to know a lot about the outer kingdom.

I like the skewed perspective of the Sea Kingdom from both Tsunami and Turtle: they’re both royals who have very different experiences of their family. They both grow up isolated from Coral, but Tsunami desperately wants to be noticed and respected as a prospective queen, whereas Turtle shies away from the idea of being such a pivotal figure.

Neither of them see the kingdom in person. They only see parts of it, usually from behind palace walls. While I find this fascinating, I also find it kind of sad. I just want to know more about the wider kingdom, dang it!

I loved the extra information that Fathom’s perspective gave us, but now I need more! Maybe from the standpoint of a non-noble, or someone who isn’t even remotely familiar with the SeaWing monarchy?

[resident-wof-expert]

Unsorted WOF thoughts part 104:

Alright, I'm just gonna list everything I love about Whiteout right here.

Prettiest dragon in the series.

A calming presence in an otherwise total shitstorm of a book.

Funny as hell, on purpose.

Understood the concept of Chaos Theory as a middle schooler.

"I did not intend to disrupt your faith in controllable outcomes."

Seems to know more than anyone else, despite not reading minds or seeing the future.

Kept Darkstalker on his toes at all times with her observations.

Predicted the entire future of the NightWings while beating Darkstalker's ass in a game of Scales and Squares.

Stole Listener's crush from right under her nose.

Told Darkstalker to his face in no uncertain terms that he lost, and he still didn't believe it.

Lived a full, happy life after losing her entire family.

[treefory]

I remember when I was first reading the first WoF ark and thinking of why sunny was different from the other sand wings. So here’s my old theory

So I thought her father was Smolder and he was having a secret relationship with a skywing, which would explain why she’s so yellow. The skywing would fly from the sky kingdom just to see smolder, but when she got pregnant she began to question how safe her relationship is with the brother of Burn ( her being very adamant about “sandwing purity”)and if it would be a good idea to bring a child into it. So she decided to cut things off with Smolder before he found out. She flew one last time to Smolder to tell him they were breaking up and on the way back she ended up laying her egg in the desert. She decides to leave it there to save herself future questions on why her child looks different and who’s the father. She also doesn’t want to bring up her child while Scarlet was queen and was working with Burn and feared the possibility that her child would be found and killed. She might had also did the math and found out her egg was due on the brightest night. Wich would mean her egg wouldn’t even get the chance to hatch in the skykingdom

I also thought if this was true, then Sunny would find out she was a princess and would name herself queen to stop the war. But she would know that she wouldn’t make for a good queen so her first order as queen was to make Thorn queen.(at least I kinda got that right lol)

But yeahhhh big ramble

[nitelyt]

do you think there are therapists in the wof world, like registered, licensed, trained therapists listening to and providing solutions to other dragons problems

i think a lot of characters need that

seems like something the pantala tribes would introduce

[talewind-arts]

Hi I'm Aromantic and struggle to comprehend subtle and complex romances. So here's what I like about the simple, squishy, sappy, DoD romances!

-Clay/Peril

Clay grew up being told he was a monster, just like Peril. He sees a part of himself he has seen nowhere else in her and believes deeply that she is good, just as he believes he and everyone else is good.

Meanwhile Peril is 2 inches from his face staring and blushing and bubbling over the one dragon who was sincerely, openly, and unabashedly kind and genuine in a way nobody else could. Also he is the first person to be able to touch her, literally and figuratively and it's fucking hilarious any time the DoD shows they all know and he doesn't.

-Tsunami/Riptide

Two people whose lives have been out of their control since forever. They understand each other in ways only people who have had to learn how to flail around in the dark can.

Plus Riptide being in the Talons of Peace and Tsunami being royalty/the seawing egg is so juicy. Tsunami is, to no fault of her own, the cataclysm for everything about Riptide's life. Riptide is a member of the organization that Tsunami hates more than anyone, far more than the other at best resentful DoD. Their empathy and crushes for one another must be held at bay. Both are extremely loyal and have their own duties, and at the same time care too much for the other to enact those duties in a way that would directly bring harm.

It's a perfect display of the complex morals of Tsunami's character/book.

-Glory/Deathbringer

(I'm in the camp that scavenger logic does not apply to dragon age cause I love these two and its fiction, I do not condone pedophilia nor do I think it applies here. If you disagree that's totally OK, but if you feel the need to debate, I'd honestly rather it be about the actual psychology of the relationships so that I may learn more about this rather alien concept)

It's so fucking cool that after Glory's parental figures tried to kill her, she meets an assassin meant to do the same, who even though it is his job, actively and vocally tries not to kill her. AND THEN he becomes her bodyguard, making sure she never gets killed. It's SO GOOD.

Anyhow much like Glory, Deathbringer grew up an outsider. He is a healthy, continent bound, silly Nightwing, as unheard of as a fierce, serious, sarcastic Rainwing. Deathbringer says it himself, Glory fascinates him, I think he sees himself in her a lot, which is a uniquely new feeling for someone who broke free of the Nightwing’s trademark ‘all for the plan, none for the self’ mentality. At the other end, Glory's life is/was very unstable, and she constantly grapples with self worth and feeling like she doesn't belong. Having someone who constantly gives her affirmations (clearly crushes on/is attracted to her, finds her deeply funny and interesting, believes strongly in her choices) is so important for her. She needs someone who will worship the ground she walks on just as much as Deathbringer needs someone who can step on him who knows what it's like to be on the outside looking in.

-Starflight/Fatespeaker

(FYI I haven't done much thinking on these two yet, this may be subject to change)

All Fatespeaker ever wanted was friends. Heck, she actively lies to herself that she has friends in the false dragonets, who instead take any chance they get to berate and annoy her. Like all the false dragonets, Fatespeaker is a deliciously fascinating warping of Starflight. Both groups poke fun at their annoying Nightwing nerds, but only the DoD care enough to prompt Starflight to infodump, and they only tease him because they know he could dish it back. This was the life Fatespeaker thought she led, so of course Starflight piqued her interest. He is everything she wants to be.

Meanwhile, Starflight as we all know is totally into bubbly and hopeful personalities. In fact, his book is entirely started by him having some of that hope himself. Fatespeaker is hopefulness to the MAX. Starflight needs to be around her, to ground himself with that hope and kindness and reckless abandon, to keep his mind from racing. Just as Fatespeaker needs to learn what healthy relationships are from Starflight and those around him. They ground each other in ways they wish others could, in ways they have been searching for their whole lives, and even if they don't end up together (They will cause it's a sappy book but I headcanon it going either way)

So those are my thoughts. Please share your own if you have them, and keep in mind I'm Aromantic so if I missed any subtext…woops! Maybe add it onto this post so I can learn? Thanks for reading!

[wingsoffiretings]

anyone else got that one wof character where you’re like, “damn that’s me.” for me it’s starflight.