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cahirsmommy · 9 months
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How to spot a Stereotype: An Example
Okay, so I talked about this in my Lesson 6 Stereotypes series, but I feel like people haven't quite... Understood what I meant. So I'm doing a mini lesson/application. First, I'd really appreciate it if you take the time to read the links in my posts, because that will provide you the historical and social context necessary. If you lack it, you will never be fully able to understand this. Remember, all I do here is provide the beginning steps. You have to be willing to do the rest!
One thing I constantly emphasize is that it's not the description of a character that (always) reveals an existing stereotype, but the writing! And again, until you grasp why anti-Black stereotypes are what they are, you will continue to be frustrated with how to avoid incorporating them, both in your writing and in your mindset. I'm going to use one stereotype as an example.
The Mammy Stereotype
"[Black woman character] is very fond, doting, and protective. She's like the team mom of the group."
On the surface, people who are worried about this stereotype will worry, because Black readers have long rolled their eyes and said we're tired of seeing this as one of the Only Options for Black women characters. And we are. Here's the disconnect: the attributes are not what we're tired of, but how they were utilized in the writing- often by non-Black writers!
Mammy: put simply, the caricature of the Mammy is the Black nursemaid that would take care of the Master's white children and the Mistress, prioritizing them above the well-being of herself, her own children, and her own community. She is fat and homely (so as not to attract the Master from the Mistress), unthreatening, sweet and subservient.
In other words, the only value she held was to serve white people's needs (and quench their guilt).
While the image of the Mammy herself is a strong imagery that has faded from its specific origin, I would say the modern day fan archetypes that ring of the Mammy stereotype are the Black woman character that "holds the Braincell", the "begrudgingly fond mother of the group", the canon love interest now relegated to the "mommy/mean lesbian" whose feelings are erased altogether, her new role to help the two white characters get together without acknowledgment of her own potential. She has no real story of her own, or as mentioned, has her own story stolen because "it doesn't look good with her in it" (which is its own bag of worms).
Now, people often give these characters motherly (or what society deems motherly) traits: caring, sweet, protective, loving, self sacrificial. Because they want to defensively show that "they're a great person! Nothing bad! I still think they're good! I'm not racist!"
But upon learning of the stereotype, there appears this insecurity- "oh, my Black woman character has these traits, is she playing into this stereotype?" When you get to this question, what you really need to be asking yourself is:
What makes the Mammy a Mammy?
They are a tool, a utility to white people with more power.
They lack autonomy. How they feel is irrelevant, if it does not serve the white person.
Nonthreatening so as to feel "harmless" to white people who bask in her "selfless" care.
They are not allowed to show frustration or upset at their lot or at life; it is seen as a negative attribute because if they are not caring, they have no use (and may now even be considered a threat).
They will also disagree with anyone else, even to the detriment of themselves, to the benefit of the white person. This is considered "selfless", rather than sacrifice (consider that "real" Mammies were originally slaves. They probably hated every single day with the people they "cared" for, but God forbid they speak on it. To white people, they were supposedly so happy and grateful! Smile and nod!)
Notice, out of the things I listed, "strong", "protective", "intelligent", and "caring" weren't there! Because those aren't bad attributes for a Black character to have! Why would we ever suggest that?? Why would I be mad that a Black woman was any of those wonderful things to her peers? That's not the issue. The issue is that they are often used in service of usually white characters and their stories. They're a tool of the writer to coddle their white characters, versus a character that has their own inner workings and existence.
Knowing what you know now; things that would make your strong, protective, and caring Black woman character fit the Mammy stereotype can include:
If she is pushed to the side with no autonomy or inner life of her own, as the narrative centers the white characters and their needs.
If she is never shown to have any reason for acting outside of to the benefit of the white characters around her. That's the only time her presence counts.
If her disagreeing with, getting upset with, or refusing (or really, just not being "motherly") the white characters is deemed trashy by the narrative (whereas anyone else receives nuance or reason for their behavior).
If the white characters in the story treat her poorly, and it is treated as a good thing that she "stays calm" without any sort of reflection on her feelings.
You can come up with any sort of setting, plot scenario, and description of your Black woman character. But at the end of the day, what's going to make it the stereotype is how the narrative treats her, which you will only find out by writing it, and then reviewing your own work!
You're going to have to approach any stereotype this way. It's part of the *intent* thing I keep pushing 😅 if you don't intend to write a stereotype, you're going to have to actively understand what it is, which will help you actively avoid it.
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hi! i noticed you learnt about what ryan condal said regarding blood and cheese. it was…something. i would like to know your thoughts on the matter. though it would be completely understandable if you need sometime to gather them together or if you would rather not at all! thank you and bye!
Hello beloved, thank you so much for asking me! I’d love to share my opinion!
If anyone’s wondering, @rhaenelle is referring to this interview where Ryan Condal essentially says he believes that Blood & Cheese’s brutality and heinousness was exaggerated by the Greens in a propagandistic attempt to convince their subjects that Rhaenyra and Daemon are the worst villains ever born, hence why he toned the event down; to show us what he thinks is the accurate version of Jaehaerys’ murder.
Now, I am aware that Condal had already warned us that HOTD was going to be a feminist retelling of the events of F&B, which practically means that his plan has always been to whitewash the everlasting fuck out of Rhaenyra. So what do I think about this?
Well, for starters, I think that Ryan Condal is an excellent businessman. He knows what kind of tropes are going to make the audience engage with his show. He understands that people need a hero to cheer for and a villain to hate, therefore he removed the moral ambiguity from all of the characters and divided them into two categories: the Blacks, enlightened revolutionaries full of passion, deserving of admiration and correct in everything they do, and the Greens, pious fools with a moral superiority complex who are stack in the ways of the past and commit despicable crimes. The average viewer does not possess the intelligence to comprehend that both parties have their good and bad moments, and that they’re both correct in fighting for what each believes is rightfully theirs. Simultaneously, he benefits from the modern trends that want women in media to take revenge when they are wronged and emerge as triumphant girlbosses, because of course a white upper class woman’s suffering in a western world (or Westeros) society has everything to do with her gender and nothing to do with her personality or decisions (even if this works solely for Rhaenyra, because Alicent seems to be held accountable for every single one of her actions). Finally, it is obvious that Condal is trying to appease disgruntled Daenerys fans, so he has rebuilt Rhaenyra into this tortured martyr that wishes to change the world for the better in an attempt to make her resemble her great granddaughter six times removed.
For all of these reasons, I find it very logical that he is going out of his way to minimise the tragedy the Greens experience. It just doesn’t make Rhaenyra look good and honestly, who wants that? The producers saw how unhappy Danny’s stans were when they made her lose her shit; they’re not going to make the same mistake twice. They don’t want their show to tank like the last season of GOT did, so they’ll do everything in their power to keep the audience happy. And it’s working! What’s the last thing Condal says in this clip? “You kinda start rooting for [Blood and Cheese]!” and boy oh boy, the TB stans sure do! Literally hundreds of memes that rejoiced at Jaehaerys’ death were posted on X this week, with tens of thousands of likes. But when Lucerys died, it was presented as the most foul thing to ever happen in the ASOIAF universe. It is the TB supporters that dictate which child murder is good and which is bad, and that decision usually depends on which child came out Rhaenyra’s womb, not let’s say, the fact that one kid was a toddler that could barely walk, while the other was a teenager that laughed at the disabled person he mutilated himself.
It’s all just marketing
That being said, I want to clarify that I understand why Condal and the HOTD producers do what they do, but being a good entrepreneur does not necessarily make you a literary genius. Now, I’m not gonna explain why stripping Rhaenyra off of every character trait that made her interesting is a bad decision and that in their attempt to remove the blame from her so that they can elevate her as this righteous patron of feminism, they’re accidentally removing all of her agency and turning her simply into a victim, because I have a whole blog dedicated to that. But let’s just say that presenting Rhaenyra as this sexually liberated idol that’s incapable of evil, when in fact she’s an entitled aristocrat who’s completely at the mercy of men around her, from her father to her husbuncle, is the most performative activism move ever pulled in recent TV history, as well as pushing the narrative that Alicent suffers from internalised misogyny because duh, a woman can only be good and a feminist if she supports Rhaenyra, not when she pursues her own interests.
Ultimately, I think we just have to accept that this show is not meant for TG fans. We are not going to find any satisfaction in it. Everything that was unique and admirable about the Greens in the book has vanished. Their family dynamic is fucked up, Alicent’s children hate her, Aegon and Halaena cannot stand one another, Alicent is constantly a victim and never someone that chases her own ambitions, Halaena is very vague, Aemond appears to be more angsty than angry, Aegon is a stupid rapist, Jaehaerys’ death was turned into a mockery, Alicole was weaponised in order to make us shit on Alicent and Criston even more and so on. This show barely caters to us because we’re not making them any money.
The reason that there are more TB than TG stans is because (I’m gonna get so much fucking hate for this) most people who watch TV are fucking morons. I swear, when F&B came out 6 years ago, no one gave a flying fuck about Rhaenyra, because we all understood that everyone involved in the Dance of the Dragons was fucked up in their own way and that the message of this story, just like the general message of ASOIAF, is that nobody deserves to sit on that fucking throne. We were all in agreement about that. But then this fucking show came along and all the oblivious simpletons that swallowed whatever the producers shoved down their throats, grabbed the book and decided that “Woah, this book is obviously a critique on patriarchy and Rhaenyra is obviously the victim of the story”! As if GRRM, the man who said that he doesn’t sit down and think “Oh, I’m going to write a woman now” but instead he believes women to be people just like men, with complex personalities, would ever do that. And they just can’t believe that it is possible for book!Rhaenyra to be an evil racist classist full of entitlement! Surely it must be because the Greens are rewriting history! There’s no way GRRM, the man that created Cersei fucking Lannister, would ever make a female character that’s vicious and crazy just because she feels like it! Y’all need to sit down for a moment. I say this as a radical feminist that supports the 4B movement: you’re projecting your own ideas onto George’s work. Not all the media we consume has to reflect our ideologies, but if you think that it has to, then this book isn’t the anti misogynistic masterpiece you wish it was.
Like, when it comes to F&B, I am firmly anti Targaryen and did not wish for any side to win. I wanted them all wiped out to be honest. But when it comes to HOTD, I’m TG basically out of spite at this point.
All in all, I just think that things are going to go downhill for us from this point on. They’ll just keep glorifying the Blacks until the very end.
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karen page is so annoying in the show...is she better in the comics somehow or is she just like that
So I've actually wanted to talk about this forever, but I kept forgetting to make a post about it. Your ask is a perfect opportunity to write down all my thoughts. Brace yourself, because I have a lot to say. Sorry in advance lmao
I actually prefer Karen in the show. To be fair, I have not finished all the comics, but so far I think her TV counterpart is a lot better (I still like her a lot in the comics tho, don't get me wrong). The NMCU version of Karen Page also has a lot of Kirsten McDuffie (another comic book girlfriend) in her, which is great in my opinion.
A lot of people find her annoying, but to me it's her flaws that make her such a fantastic character. She isn't a caricature, stock-girlfriend character pulled from a box of tropes; she's a well-rounded individual, extremely realistic, a mirror of Matt Murdock, and a woman with real agency. Her actions have major consequences on the plot. In my opinion, a lot of superhero girlfriends (in comics, movies, TV, whatever) are written more like props than characters, and they don't have any agency or actual plot relevance. Which is why, when a lot of them die, their deaths feel so cheap and inconsequential. That's where fridging comes from. It's been a problem with superheroes since their very inception; and a problem in storytelling at large. So often in fiction, women are flat and unrealistic.
So to me, Karen's heavily-flawed character is refreshing. She is extremely impulsive; she's deeply intelligent, but makes such stupid decisions; she can be hypocritical, self-destructive, and petty. Sometimes she manipulates people, even unintentionally. She's very well-meaning, but constantly makes mistakes. And it's these mistakes that move the plot forward, and reveal important things about both her and Matt. Her actions have real consequences for the story, and she undertakes her own journey throughout the narrative. She is almost as much a protagonist as Matt is, in terms of her character development and growth.
For that matter, every one of the flaws that I listed are things that Matt does too. They are almost perfect mirrors of each other; people who are immensely concerned with justice and compassion, people who care for the truth, and people who want to make their city a better place. However, as they go about it, they stumble and make mistakes and endanger other people. They're hypocritical and contradictory and impulsive. They constantly have to call their own moralities into question, because they almost never live up to their high ideals.
(Also, as a side note, I think many of Karen's flaws—as with Matt's—come as a direct result of all the trauma she's been through: her mother's death, her brother's death, her alcoholism and drug addiction, her dad cutting her off, being framed for murder, almost getting murdered in prison, etc. So I think it's fair to give her some grace.)
But what makes both Karen and Matt so lovable, imo, is that they keep trying. No matter what mistakes they make, they get back up and try again. They do everything they can to atone for the blood on their hands.
I think also (and I'm not accusing you of this, just a certain subset of people in the fandom) that people are more willing to accept Matt's flaws than Karen's—because there's a lot of misogyny built into our society, and there's this ingrained idea that women have to be paragons of virtue. Women, both in fiction and in reality, tend to be put under a microscope and dissected, while men can get away with a lot more. So Matt and Karen have identical flaws, but only Karen gets hate for it, which makes me very sad.
It may be the writer in me, but imo flaws are what make a character—and a story—meaningful. A well-flawed character can take a ridiculous, implausible story and make it feel grounded and real and impactful. A well-flawed woman even more so. I love Karen for the same reason I love Jessica Jones and Wanda Maximoff; or, to go beyond Marvel, for the same reason I love Jo March and Katniss Everdeen and Miss Haversham and Katherina Molina. They all elevate their respective stories beyond the initial premise and plot. Flawed female characters are realistic and impactful, and therefore empowering.
Obviously, to each their own. Some people just find her annoying and don't like her personality, and that's fine. But for me, that's what makes her feel real, and that's why I love her.
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The Apothecary Diaries
First watch of first episode
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At a glance, I knew I would like this show, but after one episode I'm pretty sure I'm going to love it.
Btw, do y'all like it when people give their first impressions of your favorite shows/books/media? Or their thoughtful analysis? Or their shit posting?
I do. I'll try to do that for you here.
So I'm watching this on Crunchyroll with English dub. Right off the bat I can tell you that I'm in love with Maomao. The voice actress is terrific, but also the character is intriguing. She draws you in right away with her intelligence, competency, inquisitiveness, daring, sense of responsibility, need for justice and expansive caring for every including strangers. She's got a whole lot of A+ character traits to absolutely love. Considering she wants to keep a low profile in the palace that's going to be a problem. I'm pretty sure everyone in her orbit is going to be sucked in by her and either love or hate her. There isn't a lot of room for indifference with a person this interesting.
The very first scene I knew there was something atypical about this show because a charming conversation between a daughter and her father suddenly had a black and white still frame of the the girl being abducted. The hell?!
That paired with the next scene taking place in a brothel helped me grasp the tone of this show. This show is going to have some more mature themes. Now, I know, I'm ready for it. I think. (I'll be alright as long as there is no boiling of people. I've already had two shows I've watched this year cook people and I'm done with human soup).
So we see a courtesan ask Maomao without surprise:
Have you been wounding yourself again?
To which Maomao replies, as if it's obvious:
Well, yeah.
Okay so self harm is something Maomao does. Perhaps in service of her medical research, but if she's willing to harm herself for this, then she might also be willing to put herself in harms way under other circumstances as well. I think the show is trying to demonstrate that she's self sacrificing here. Love that in a fictional character.
She panics and runs when the brothel ladies tease her about becoming a courtesan. Why? Is she intimidated by intimacy? Has she witnessed the courtesans suffering? Is she afraid that future would derail her own plans? Does she always get this flustered when teased? I'm not suggesting she consider becoming a courtesan but her panic is telling of something more.
She immediately gets kidnapped, which due to foreshadowing we knew was going to happen, but what gets me is her blasé attitude about it. Like it's just an inconvenience and not a terrifying ordeal. I immediately thought they would sell her to a brothel, but she instead ends up doing laundry at the palace. So we learn that Maomao can stay calm in a crisis and this makes me even more curious about her reaction to the teasing by the courtesans.
We find Maomao settled into a life of servitude at the palace. She's accepted what happened even if she is unfulfilled. She misses her old life, including the brothel, wonders about her father and longs for meat screwers, but she's already figured out the ecosystem she's in and how best to navigate it. She's so savy here. She compares the palace to the brothel and applies her knowledge of that complex social system to navigate palace politics. Maomao has already analyzed what would happen if she revealed her competencies, and has decided to lay low until she is able to extricate her self in a couple years.
She tells the viewers what we need to know about harem life and mentions that if one isn't careful they could end up as a concubine. It's a future she wants as little as that of a courtesan, even though she mentioned that low ranked concubines are treated better than the servants. I have to wonder if this is foreshadowing or if it is commentary on the roles of women in this society.
Palace gossip! Oh there's a handsome new eunuch in the palace? Maomao couldn't care less. Well okay.
I'm going to make a few completely unfounded predictions here just to see how far off I am when I watch the rest of the series.
Regarding the hot eunuch:
He's not a eunuch. He's got all his bits and bobs.
He's not just a palace manager. At least not completely. He's probably a bastard son or royalty in hiding or something. He's not nobody.
Maomao is going to be down bad for this dude.
What a waste. Grade A quality genes and no way of proliferating them. -Maomao on Jinshi's appearance
So Maomao can't be bothered to spare a second thought about handsome eunuchs, or nonsense about curses, but medical ailments? Now you've got her thinking. And I love that about her. She knows how to diagnose and treat ailments and she cares so much! She's trying to lay low but her passion and integrity can't be tempered by her very rational plan to protect herself by staying inconspicuous. She knows how to help and feels a responsibility to do so even if that help puts her at risk. Hero qualities right there.
Also, I love a character that is just... better than every one else. Maomao is more informed, experienced and able to diagnose than the court physician. Competency porn yes, please!
Speaking of competency... We need to talk about Jinshi! Our handsome "eunuch" (he's getting that word in sarcastic quotes until I receive proof otherwise). Out of the 3000 people living in the back palace, he deduces which one of them sent a warning to the concubines, and rangles a confession with nothing more than a scrap of cloth. He observed Maomao muttering about needing something to write on, and her mended skirt. He recognized that scrap of cloth as belonging to a servant girl's clothing. He understood the importance of her literacy and cleverly used it as a means to draw her out. Jinshi is every bit as capable as Maomao, and he's out maneuvered her in this. Maomao has met her match.
To Maomaos horror she is promoted to lady-in-waiting and I am here for it! Girl you are in the shit now! She seems really panicked about the new promotion, because she is smart and knows that this new position is fraught with dangers even if she doesn't know precisely what they are. She seems pretty smart and capable but the fact that Jinshi was able to so easily draw her out and expose her means she will need to sharpen her skills. I'm hoping the concubine and Jinshi will be allies to her in the palace.
Her panic about entering the court reminds me of earlier in the episode when she ran from the brothel. Perhaps she fears becoming entangled with any type of social/political group? Does she have more secrets that she's trying to keep hidden?
I just know that this character is going to be put through some trials. But she has so many great qualities and strengths, that I'm confident she can adapt and overcome. I am looking forward to watching her persist and triumph. And maybe cause a little trouble.
There are some qualities that Maomao just can't mute. Curiosity. A thirst for knowledge. And a sometimes troublesome need to right that which is wrong. - Narrator
Episode 2
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(Context: im thinking abt my post canon au, i explained on my ao3, u dont even have to read it just know its there)
Mizu revealing her being a woman to taigen AFTER he confesses his feelings to mizu AFTER being bested during their duel once again is literally so fucking personal to me. Jesus fuck... FUCK. Like. How overwhelmingly loved she must feel. How SEEN. Truly for once n not just but loved and wanted!!! Its so personal to me. Just. Taigen, losing, n then immediately leaning in for a kiss. Mizu is lost cuz what?? Why?? N taigen just. Confesses, but hes holding back cuz mizus reaction was not great and he doesn't wanna ruin the friendship they've formed these past months, they've grown so close so fast n its scary but so exciting n so right but if mizu doesnt want this then nothing is happening n its ok he has a CHOICE. Like. FUCK!! N then mizu telling taigen to wait and that night she reveals it. And its just sooo fucking intimate. Its so soft. And maybe taigen is confused but one look at how small mizu is making herself, like shielding herself from him. Like he gets it. The danger of it all. And its his promise to protect her if she ever needs to that does her in cuz. SHE HAS A CHOICE. TO BE PROTECTED OR NOT. THATS SO IMPORTANT TO HER. Yes, she can protect herself. Yes, it feels good to be protected. Yknow??
Mizu revealing her being a woman to akemi totally by accident AFTER they just had an argument abt women's choices in society AFTER mizu accidentally took one (1) big sip of sake, n then deciding fuck it im gonna win this argument, guess what akemi. And that's how akemi finds out. N Mizu thinks akemi is going to hate her, n she does for a bit in silence, but mostly shes just hurt? For herself AND for Mizu. Cause she understands, so suddenly, so intimately, how hard being a woman is and how mizu has had to hide as a man to survive (not even for plot reasons that we know, mizu being mixed AND a woman? Death sentence). And she just hurts. And they thought they'd always have this weird rift between them but they cry and they let it out (for Mizu, for the first time in YEARS) and its just. Its so emotional n so important and so personal and intimate. Its maybe winter all over again, a year has passed since theyd seen each other in kyoto, so much has changed and yet not rly and. They've grown but in different ways. Akemi, in taking life by the reins n being assertive and strong and so dangerously intelligent like shes always been but now, now its crucial to be that. And Mizu in realizing that she truly, truly wants to be loved so badly but to be loved is to be vulnerable and thats what scares her the most, to be weak; but ure only strong if u can be weak too, and thats what she learns. And i think this is where they really get deep into their feelings. Before it was a crush, an annoying one. Now? Oh bby theyre down bad. Yes they are.
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alannatheterrible · 2 years
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No change can happen until we as a society stop considering women as an "absence", or beings that "lack" things.
Women are not seeing as individual beings. They are seen as non-men. In ancient times, fertility in women was celebrated. Women were the creators, they were to be celebrated. But a reactionary movement brought phalluses under the spotlight instead. Everything began to be centered around penises, and in turn, their lack thereof. To this day, it's still one of the worst thing that can be conceived by humans (=men and women who still haven't woken up): not having a penis, not having balls, having a small or non functioning penis. It's all about that. Dick, dick, dick. Dicks drawn everywhere, "dick envy", ordinary objects shaped like dicks, dicks celebrated as the gods of fertility. But sperm is always readily available, unlike eggs. Women who are fertile aren't fertile all the time, their ovulatory cycle is more complicated, and it works on the basis of selection, just like the selection of the winning sperm, so as to call it. But that is an argument for another day, going back to the original purpose of this post...
Men are the center of everything. Their bodies are the icons of strength, of functionality, while women are seen as weak, because they don't excel in the same fields where men are the most fit to excel in, because of biomechanics and all. And women do have their own strengths, strengths that men don't and can't have - because of biomechanics still. But they don't matter, all misogynists care about is how to weaken the image of a woman.
Men are seen as more intelligent, when you think of a philosopher, you'd imagine a stoic, solitary man, who is superior to all in his mind... And usually hates women, because unlike other men, women are too dumb to understand his man-struggles.
Men are the default. Masculine is the default. Women are sinners, they ate the apple, they were made from a man's rib, they have to cover their whole bodies because they're nothing but temptation to men. Even the most enlightened men that history celebrates were raging misogynists, women were and are treated as subhuman by the patriarchal society we sadly still live in.
And then comes lesbianism. Men just can't grasp the concept of a woman liking another woman. Not a failed man, not a non-man, not a weak failed copy of a man, not a sex object, not a child bearer, not a free house wife. Lesbians don't like women the way that men think they like women. Lesbians like WOMEN. To them, to us, a woman is the center of all. The body of a woman is not just a man without the holy penis and the holy balls, nor is it a talking breathing sex dolls with perfectly round boobs and easy-to-lubricate holes. A woman has her own shapes, shapes that don't need to be deformed in some unnatural way to fit a sex position, no, a woman has different body proportions, body fat distribution, and yet she has body hair, and isn't born with makeup.
Women are women. They are their own individuals, a man with long hair would not be a woman the same way that a woman with short hair would not be a man. They are different, and different ≠ inferior. Different means different skills, different ways to shine.
To a man, a woman being a lesbian is an act of rebellion. Because the lesbian both ceases to live as an object whose only purpose is to serve men, and because, being a woman who loves women, she does not center her world view around men. Men are not her default, women are. Men are not her focus, women are.
And it's why men can't understand why some lesbians for example like butches but, obviously, not men. They see women as non-men when they see hypersexualized caricatures of women, when you take that hypersexualization away, when a butch has short hair and wears "mens clothes" and "looks like a man" all she is, to men, is a man without a penis. So "why not just go for the real man, with a real penis?". They can't fathom the idea of not liking penis just like they don't understand that butches and women who don't perform the construct of femininity they built are, in fact, still women.
Same way how they see two "femme" lesbians in porn using a strap-on and say the same thing, how if they use a strap-on then they can do a real man. Firstly, they don't understand that a woman with a strap on during sex is, in fact, still a woman. And secondly, they are seeing a part of themselves, their most precious and cherished part, being used as an object without much importance by the category of people that will never link with men. And they can't grasp that.
To men, a man who lost or is without a functioning penis and balls is not a man. He's emasculated, he's not virile, he's weak. They may feel pity for him.
For women, a woman who lost or is without a functioning part of her reproductively apparatus is still a woman. A woman who isn't fertile is still a woman, and doesn't lose any value in the eyes of women (except conservative trad-wives, maybe). A woman who lost her breast(s) doesn't lose value. A woman who has bigger breasts isn't more valuable than a woman with smaller breasts, while men argue within themselves all the time with "who has it bigger".
Women are not non-men, they are women. We have been erased, we have been shaped to the liking of men for too long, it's time to react. We need to speak up, not only for us, but for those sisters who still haven't opened their eyes, and those sisters who can't use their voices because it puts their lives in danger. We are not men, we are not inferior because we are not men, we are different, but we are still strong. We are different, but just as valuable. We will not bear in silence.
I'm a lesbian, I love women. I don't love non-men, I love women and all that has to do with their being a woman.
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haggishlyhagging · 1 year
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“It is a truism in the literature on working wives that although the husbands of working wives do help with household tasks, all too often wives continue to have responsibility for running the household. They rush home from work, shopping on the way, in order to have dinner on the table by six. They clean and tend to the laundry and do whatever has to be done in the evenings or on weekends. This is not role sharing.
The husband may promise to do his share, and increasingly he does or, at least, agrees to. But he can make his contribution so grudgingly as to force the wife to conclude that she would rather do it herself. Pat Mainardi has shown how such reluctant sharers of the burden manage to renege. She has translated all of their dodges. Eleven are standard:
“I don't mind sharing the housework, but I don't do it very well. We should each do the things we're best at." MEANING: Unfortunately I’m no good at things like washing dishes or cooking. What I do best is a little light carpentry, changing light bulbs, moving furniture (how often do you move furniture?). ALSO MEANING: Historically the lower classes (black men and us) have had hundreds of years experience doing menial jobs. It would be a waste of manpower to train someone else to do them now. ALSO MEANING: I don't like the dull stupid boring jobs, so you should do them.
"I don't mind sharing the work, but you'll have to show me how to do it." MEANING: I ask a lot of questions and you'll have to show me everything every time I do it because I don't remember so good. Also don't try to sit down and read while I'm doing my jobs because I'm going to annoy hell out of you until it's easier to do them yourself.
"We used to be so happy!" (Said whenever it was his turn to do something.) MEANING: I used to be so happy. MEANING: Life without housework is bliss. No quarrel here. Perfect agreement.
“We have different standards, and why should I have to work to your standards? That's unfair." MEANING: If I begin to get bugged by the dirt and crap I will say, "This place sure is a sty" or "How can anyone live like this?" and wait for your reaction. I know that all women have a sore called "Guilt over a messy house" or "Household work is ultimately my responsibility." I know that men have caused that sore—if anyone visits and the place is a sty, they're not going to leave and say, "He sure is a lousy housekeeper." You'll take the rap in any case. I can outwait you. ALSO MEANING: I can provoke innumerable scenes over the housework issue. Eventually doing all the housework yourself will be less painful to you than trying to get me to do half. Or I'll suggest we get a maid. She will do my share of the work. You will do yours. It's woman's work.
"I've got nothing against sharing the housework, but you can't make me do it on your schedule." MEANING: Passive resistance. I'll do it when I damned well please, if at all. If my job is doing dishes, it's easier to do them once a week. If taking out laundry, once a month. If washing the floors, once a year. If you don't like it, do it yourself oftener, and then I won't do it at all.
"I hate it more than you. You don't mind it so much." MEANING: Housework is garbage work. It's the worst crap I've ever done. It's degrading and humiliating for someone of my intelligence to do it. But for someone of your intelligence. . . .
"Housework is too trivial to even talk about." MEANING: It's even more trivial to do. Housework is beneath my status. My purpose in life is to deal with matters of significance. Yours is to deal with matters of insignificance. You should do the housework.
"This problem of housework is not a man-woman problem. In any relationship between two people one is going to have a stronger personality and dominate. MEANING: That stronger personality had better be me.
"In animal societies, wolves, for example, the top animal is usually a male even where he is not chosen for brute strength but on the basis of cunning and intelligence. Isn't that interesting?" MEANING: I have historical, psychological, anthropological, and biological justification for keeping you down. How can you ask the top wolf to be equal?
"Women's Liberation isn't really a political movement." MEANING: The Revolution is coming too close to home. ALSO MEANING: I am only interested in how I am oppressed, not how I oppress others. Therefore the war, the draft, and the university are political. Women's Liberation is not.
"Man's accomplishments have always depended on getting help from other people, mostly women. What great man would have accomplished what he did if he had to do his own housework?" MEANING: Oppression is built into the system and I, as the white American male, receive the benefits of this system. I don't want to give them up.”
Jessie Bernard, The Future of Marriage
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[ softly screams ] hello hello everyone! i am mira (25+, she/her) and i am INCREDIBLY HYPE FOR THIS RP! this is song sunyoung, aka the 2016's qe1 queen bitch. with a misguided sense of justice and righteousness and an unwavering, ruthless ambition to make the world a more equal place, she is hellbent on ensuring everyone suffers the same she's had to endure. okay, possibly more, but you won't catch her saying that out loud. you can find general information & trivia for sunyoung on this page, and i'll also leave some stuff under the cut! i won't post any possible plots/connections as of now because i have way too many thoughts just from reading other canon descriptions alone, but please feel free to LIKE THIS POST ♡ and i'll come to you for plots, or you can add me on d*sc @ soverenyi !!!!
1993 liner, scorpio sun aries moon. so basically a mess.
she comes from a conservative family that thinks women aren't cut for the big pants jobs, and is one of the first to truly challenge that. in time she's earned her father's trust and appreciation, and he paraded her around as the perfect child which earned her an easy invitation to the club.
has two younger brothers, and while the youngest looks up to her and was coached by her to join the club as well, the middle sibling never made the cut and is endlessly resentful of that.
has a weird relationship with her mother, sort of resents her for not trying to break the mold? but also understands her role in the family and takes solace in her comfort from time to time. her mother taught her to play the violin and they often bond over classical music.
speaking of! sunyoung plays the violin frequently, as a way to decompress. during her initiation process in 2016, an "accident" caused her to break two fingers and, because she wasn't able to play as her hand healed, she went ballistic. and that's why your muse hates her now!
she was a political science major, then went on to study law. she now works in the human rights policy division in the government, but she wants to eventually move to more hands-on roles such as investigators. which is actually a bit of a downgrade for her position, but she really needs that field experience to further her career - particularly when she works with a bunch of dinosaurs that won't listen to her and because half the time she doesn't really know what she's talking about
the thing about her working in human rights is probably very funny to your muse, considering how much of a bitch she is. the thing is that she's great at giving speeches and blaming society for everybody's issues. deep down she does believe in her cause, her views are just. skewed slightly from all that pretty privilege lol
in case you're wondering by now: yes, she is a hypocrite.
she can be very impatient and stubborn, and set on her ways. you can talk sense into her and she's very open minded to change her opinion, she'll just. never apologize for being wrong. and might yell at you during the process so no one will fault you if you give up on teaching her tbh.
she is very intelligent and quick to pick up on things, and likes to play jigsaw with people and their connections. she will often introduce you to another member she thinks you can benefit from, mostly so that you can grow into whatever position she wants you to achieve. in turn, she will eventually ask something out of you to boost her own position.
i'm gonna cut myself off here because i wanna go read other people's intros lol SEE YOU SOON
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I saw a review literally comparing the Barbie movie to nazi propaganda and saying that "Goebbels would have thought this movie is too on the nose". The Barbie movie. Because it has women in leading roles.
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-where would we be without some making light of the atrocities of the NS-regime.
What boggles my mind (spoilers btw) is that the Barbie movie actually gives Ken a lot more sympathetic motives for acting the way he does than there are for misogyny in the Real World.
Ken actually comes from a gender-inversed world where 'the Kens' were side-lined and ignored (and I hate that I'm taking the character motivations of Ken from the Barbie movie seriously rn). The reason he's so excited about the patriarchy and immediately gets in over his head in that ideology is that he comes from a 'matriarchy' and seeing stuff like men as bankers, as CEOs, artists, businessmen, men as politicians, men as doctors (men riding horses..........) is something that is absolutely mind-blowing to him and it's actually understandable that he wants to have some of that.
The whole point is the deep personal impact it has on a child to grow up and learn about the world at large and learn the way power is constructed, that most politicians are men, that most famous historic figures are men etc etc etc. The reason why Ken is so excited about this is the same reason why Gloria and Sasha react the way they do to Barbie-land.
So it's deeply ironic that these people can see the 'evils' of Barbie land and sympathise with Ken and saying that the world that this movie has created is sexist and cruel - but cannot see how the world we live in is deeply sexist and cruel and alienating to girls and women.
Somehow, they manage to watch this movie and can go 'wow isn't it horrible that this world glorifies only having female leaders, only has women in roles of authority and influence, only has women as academics and doctors etc' - - - - but not realise the very obvious message (even with Greta Gerwig literally spelling out that it is a film about the experience of growing up as a girl) that...this very traumatising realisation of society is something that every girl has experienced since the beginning of time which makes them question their own intelligence and strength and value as a person.
I guess the part that they're not understanding is that Barbie-land isn't supposed to be good and ideal (which is also something that the movie spells out by saying that the Kens are just as well-established in Barbie-land as women are in the Real World and since the Real World isn't ideal, neither is Barbie-land) but seriously, it's mind-boggling how they can sympathise with Ken as a victim, but not understand the point it makes about what it means to grow up as a woman.
Anyway. It's the Barbie-movie and they're paying tickets just to get mad lmao
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Dear Cis People and TERFs: Transphobia Hurts You Too
I want to start this off by saying I'm a cis woman. When I first heard about what being trans was, I was maybe in middle school or so, and for years afterwards, I'm ashamed to say I did not have a positive understanding of the trans community. It took a lot of reflection and communicating with trans people to bring me to the understanding I have today, which is why I want to share my perspective, in hopes that people who think the way I used to will hopefully see where I'm coming from now. The trans community is currently facing an unprecedented barrage of hate not just in the United States, but also around the world, which is why I want to state this as clearly as possible: if you consider yourself a feminist, you should be terrified, no matter what you identify as. I'd also like to point out that while you should support the trans community, first and foremost, because it's the right thing to do, this post is mainly focused on why trans rights are in everyone's best interest, not just trans people.
First, let's get one thing straight. Feminism, simply put, is the belief in gender equality. Already, this definition makes transphobia and feminism incompatible; if you believe trans people do not deserve the same rights and freedoms as cis people, you are discriminating against them on the basis of gender. If you believe that men and women are of equal value to society, then what is the difference between them that would make it so wrong for someone to transition between genders? If you had a child that was born male, and if in another universe, that child just so happened to be born female, a loving parent would love them the same either way. So if someone transitions from their gender assigned at birth, should they be thought of any less of a person for doing so? If the answer is "yes," then the only way they can justify that answer is with sexism, the belief that people are unequal to each other due to gender.
If you believe that women are capable of anything that men are, then if someone transitions from one end of the spectrum to another- or decides that they identify with a different idea of gender entirely- then what is this big, defining idea that separates men from women that would make being trans so wrong? Is it that men are strong and aggressive, while women are docile and matronly? That can't be it, because there are aggressive women and docile men. Is it that women can give birth, while men can impregnate them? That conclusion only reduces people to their reproductive organs, and besides, there's also the matter of infertile or sterile men and women. If it's down to chromosomes, then what about intersex people? For every "masculine" or "feminine" trait you may come up with to distinguish men from women, you will find exceptions that disprove the rule, whether social or biological. This leaves you with the conclusion that gender is not only a social construct, but a fluid one. This isn't to say that it doesn't exist; it does, for many cis and trans people alike, but it's a far more complicated topic than we're often led to assume.
Additionally, please ask yourself this- why are the politicians who support bans and restrictions on abortion, among other policies that target the freedoms and rights of cis women, also the ones who are most frequently attacking trans rights? It's because the existence of openly trans people suggests that gender, and the norms associated with it, are not binary, rigid structures. The advancement- and reduction- of the rights of both trans people and cis women go hand in hand, because equality for women suggests that they are as capable, intelligent, and human as men. It closes the socially-constructed divides of a perceived gender binary, which in turn allows society to accept a more fluid and nuanced view of gender itself, where more is achievable to more people than just cis men.
Being a trans ally is beneficial to cis men, just as it is to women. We've all heard of "toxic masculinity" and how it's linked to misogyny against women, but a less-discussed, albeit important, argument is that it is also harmful to men as well. "Toxic masculinity" is the idea that harmful masculine-coded traits, such as aggression or chauvinism, must be perpetrated in order to make one "man enough." But what does "man enough" even mean? If a man isn't "man enough," he's still not considered to be a woman. He may be described in demeaning terms with misogynist connotations, such as being called a "pussy," but people will still address him as "he." Even as regressive as it is, toxic masculinity mandates that some men are "manlier" than others, thereby suggesting that gender is a social spectrum and not a strict binary. However, these standards are still damaging to men, as having to prove themselves as "men" puts pressure on them, and may even lead to them inflicting physical or psychological harm on themselves or others by adopting abusive or destructive behavior. While men are promised a spot at the top of the pyramid in a patriarchal hierarchy, they in fact must compete within this system for social validation and acceptance. Patriarchy determines that to be a "man," a man must not show any qualities socially associated with women, most prominently showing any emotion other than anger. Showing affection to other men, for instance, is considered "gay," which is frowned upon because gay men are seen as effeminate- which is the worst thing to be in a patriarchy. Therefore, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia all intersect with one another.
However, accepting trans people and non-rigid gender structures, again, helps relieve cis men of this pressure to conform to standards of manliness. A trans man determines that he is a man, simply because he feels that he is. Why shouldn't cis men do the same? They don't have to prove that they're men to accept the validity of manhood; if that they determine for themselves that they're a man, whatever that may mean to them, then they're "man enough."
And above all, why should society decide how an individual should identify themselves, when only that individual can experience how it feels to be themselves?
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i think the int'l anime community needs to reflect on the amount of internalised homophobia it so casually perpetuates. it is internalised in society as we know it and grew up with, and while great strides have been made in the world today, in many places especially east of the world (I live east of the world) it is still illegal to be in a same sex marriage.
such relationships are highly frowned upon and openly ridiculed. people still use being called gay as an insult. misogyny and toxic masculinity is the norm. and thus being comfortable in your own skin even as a cis man is impossible cs if you're not toxic you're gay, so imagine life as a queer individual..
and because of such, a lot of queer people can only express their love in private. queer artists can only express themselves through their work. through their art. and even then, very few do it outright. some are extremely subtle about it, for fear of negative feedback, or worse. hate crimes
anime and manga as a form of media and art originates on a continent where queer marriage is illegal. does that mean there are no queer people on the whole continent?? manga/manhwa artists are not gonna always explicitly say that their original characters are in a way queer, but reading comprehension also exists.
any author, manga or not, expects (hopes) that their audience has a decent amount of intelligence to extrapolate information for themselves and draw certain conclusions without them explicitly stating so. and most people are able to draw those conclusions themselves eg when people deep dive marvel movies and connect things from different scenes and movies to come to an assumption, no one bats an eye. and if straight people in any movie are simply nice to each other, it's okay to ship them. but if you try to even insinuate that two men or two women with chemistry, especially in an anime, may like each other more than friends, all of a sudden you're forcing things.
you could provide very straightforward evidence and actual words and scenes from a show, but people suddenly cannot read cues or read between the lines. suddenly everyone needs an outright confession. it's exhausting actually..
why do i have to prove that they're in love? did we read the same work? why don't you prove that they're not in love for a change..
the best example I can think of is itafushikugi. kugisaki and itadori have such a great friendship, and so do kugisaki and megumi. and in canon they're just friends (it's ok if you ship them, that's not the point). but in canon there's quite a lot of evidence of itafushi. satosugu as well... and other animes too.. but circumstances out of authors controls will stop a lot of them from explicitly making queer relationships canon..
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evildilf2 · 1 year
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Not hate but radfem ideaology fundamentally opposes the concept of transgenderism. Sex does not determine your nature -- your interests, personality, how you think. Womanhood is simply the sex of your body. Womanhood is not a inherent feeling all women share, all women are different and have different experiences, live in different societies with different views on women; however, all women are subject to the patriarchy. I'm sorry, but if you're interested in radical feminism, you need to come to terms with this. I'm an ex trans man and radblr helped me liberate myself from dysphoria and come to terms with being female. It's okay to be female and present as male or masculine, that's the point. Good luck on your journey 👍
Good thing I’m a transsexual who has no interest in adopting radical feminism. There is no single quality that all women possess, and this includes sex characteristics. I can’t comprehend why you thought this would be enlightening to me, do you have no respect for my intelligence? Is it because of my chromosomes 😕
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Introducing --- 𝓐𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓣𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓵𝓮𝓽𝓸𝓷
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(   DANIELLE ROSE RUSSELL +  FEMALE  +  SHE/HER   )    dearest  reader,  i  am  ever  so  delighted  to  introduce  ADELINE TEMPLETON,  the  eighteen-year-old  lady,  known  among  the  ton  as  kind-hearted  +  intelligent  but  their  foes  would  certainly  tell  you  that  they  are  more  condescending  +  nosy.  perhaps  that  is  why  many  seem  to  think  they  had  something  to  do  with  the  ongoings  around  the  ton,  but  here  they  are  anyway  !     (   rian  ,  23  ,  she/her  ,  gmt +8  ,  uncomfortable with 19+ .   )
Name: Lady Adeline Templeton (pronounced as Add-uh-leen)
Nicknames: Addy, Ads
Age: 18
Title: Lady
Family:
Father - Viscount Ambrose Templeton
Mother - Viscountess Abigail Templeton
Older brother: Albert Templeton.
Older sisters: Rosemary Templeton
Interests/Hobbies: sketching and designing clothes and dresses, sewing, making her own outfits, reading, horseback riding, dancing, playing the pianoforte, gossip circle, literary salons, going to charitable balls, traveling, painting and shopping
⋅˚₊‧ ୨୧ ‧₊˚ ⋅. If you think that she's the perfect debutante then she has you wrapped tightly around her finger. She might seem like she's eager to marry but that's just a facade. She would only marry for her brother because she wants him to be happy and to not have to deal with any problems. If she had a choice, she wouldn't marry this early. Adeline still wants to travel and accomplish her dreams before finally marrying. She doesn't despise the societal norms but more so the fact that women are objectified and merely seen as child bearers when they can be formidable partners for their husbands and can hold their own. For her, there is so much more to discover and to explore than just being a housewife. She still yearns to prove herself and all women to the world that they are so much more than just wives. Is she inclined towards marriage and the prospect of starting a family? Yes, she does wanna marry and she has a very romantic idea of her ideal husband. Someone much like her brother and not an arrogant prick who would belittle her. You heard that right, she hates those kinds of guys the most. The ones who think that she's only pretty and her brain empty. However, she enjoys it the most when they get a taste of her true intellect and their jaws drop. She takes pleasure in doing that all the time.
Personality: ⋅˚₊‧ ୨୧ ‧₊˚ ⋅ Adeline always puts others before her, specifically her siblings. She has a kind heart, very generous and caring. Adeline is always grateful that they are blessed and privileged. She does what she can to help anyone in need. She tends to have a light-hearted nature and can be humorous and playful at times. She is very intelligent and was always interested in reading. She enjoys reading both inside or outside in nature. She can read other people easily and is very logical. Her negative traits include being condescending and nosy. Part of her being condescending is mainly caused by other girls in society who tend to be mean to her or girls who are very ignorant. She hates that the most. She judges and looks down on others who seem rude, disrespectful and those who are absolutely stupid. Most of all, those who are involved in a lot of scandals. Her being nosy is a byproduct of her hearing her mother gossip with her friends and because of the fact that she adores and consumes Lady Whistledown. She loves gossiping with her friends, everyone does it and it is loads of fun for her. It's like the scandalous stories she reads in her books. Guessing who the diamond of the new season is is one of her favorite pastimes.
Background: ⋅˚₊‧ ୨୧ ‧₊˚ ⋅ Adeline is the youngest daughter of Viscount Ambrose Templeton and Viscountess Abigail Templeton. Adeline was a bit of a spoiled brat, but can you blame her? Her folks were too busy chasing their own tails to bother with showing her any love. She found more kinship with her siblings, but even they were held up as the golden standard, leaving her in their shadow. Mama and Papa had their sights set on her debutante future, leaving little room for cuddles and kisses. They had her primped and polished for the ball, but no matter how perfect she looked and how graceful she was, it never quite cut it for them. They were all about finding her a rich catch, already planning her wedding before she even had a say. But Adeline had her own ideas. First of all, she wanted a love match. She wasn't just after a pretty face. She has very high standards unlike any other debutante. Nope, she wanted a man who could match wits with her, who could hold a conversation that actually meant something. Of course, he had to be easy on the eyes too, but more importantly, he had to have a heart of gold and a good sense of humor.
Adeline, with her assertiveness and sharp wit, is a force to be reckoned with in the glittering social circles of the ton. Despite the lack of parental warmth, she found solace in the company of her siblings, forging bonds that stood the test of time. While her parents focused on her debut and societal success, Adeline harbored dreams beyond the confines of ballrooms and courting rituals.
A lover of literature and a keen observer of human nature, Adeline possessed a keen intellect that set her apart from the debutantes of her time. Her passion for knowledge and her insatiable curiosity led her to seek out conversations that delved deeper than the superficialities of high society. She longed for a partner who could match her intellect, challenge her thoughts, and engage in debates that set her soul on fire.
Amidst the whirl of social events and matchmaking schemes, Adeline remained steadfast in her quest for a love that transcended societal expectations. Her heart yearned for a connection that was as profound as it was passionate, a love story that would rival the most captivating books she devoured in secret. And as the whispers of the ton speculated about her future match, Adeline held onto the hope that true love, in all its complexity and splendor, awaited her just beyond the gilded facade of Regency society.
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On the wag debate: I just think it’s crazy the way we talk about women vs men. When and f1 driver does something it’s forgiven a lot faster, yes there will be a media shitstorm for a time and there may be a small group of people who still care, but life goes on pretty quickly. When one of the wags does, or in many cases did something (a long time in the past), it is talked about for years as a reason to hate them. Like, obviously I don’t know these people who a lot about these specific situations but:
1. Carmen supports a homophobic author— did she know he was homophobic? I don’t know about you, sometimes I just read a book and tell other people about it without ever looking into what the author thinks and believes. We all read and talk about Harry Potter despite JK Rowling being an actual shit.
2. Alex liking racist, classist tweets. I don’t know what she liked or enough about that, to be honest. But you have to appreciate that Alex is only 21 now, and those tweets were from the past? So she would’ve been in her late teens. It is in no way right but she was also a literal child in that sense.
Basically what I’m saying is that while yes, many wags have done and said things that aren’t ok and accountability is important, we as a society need to accept that they are learning and growing and making mistakes in the public eye, and they will fuck up majorly sometimes. It seems like, the general public only want to support “the perfect woman” when in reality that doesn’t not, and will not exist, because all humans live in a state of imperfection.
I think we as a society need to stop expecting that just because people have 100k followers that they’re any more intelligent, informed, or politically correct than the people we meet on the street. I don’t know the history or voting record of every person I follow, or whose work or content I consume, and no one expects that of me. I also consume the work and content of people of whom I’m not a personal fan. I don’t boycott Chanel because Coco Chanel was a n*zi. My grandfather was a Holocaust survivor and he loved Hugo Boss clothing. Our every day lives are full of contradictions, and wags are people, so theirs are, too. Why do we expect so much from them? Who are they, really, except pretty girls who date boys?
As for Alexandra…people need to stay out of her damn Twitter likes. Who scrolled down through 5 years of likes to find that tweet that she probably doesn’t remember. P A T H E T I C. And unless the people complaining about that tweet (which they really shouldn’t be because you don’t know her, or what her opinions are now) are having a fight every time their conservative great uncle/family friend/grandma says something a little politically charged at the dinner table, STFU. Because I guarantee you the majority of people bitching about Alex’s likes on Twitter aren’t willing to say half that shit to people in their own lives. So they don’t really care, they just want to hate on her specifically.
People need to leave people alone. These are not social activists or politicians, their lives and opinions do not affect you. Just let them live 😂
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What if they were turned into monsters? (from classic movies or mythology)
Oh my gosh I love monsters! Classic monsters is so good!
Dipper: Okay so! In Monster Falls he is usually a deertaur! As for classic monsters, he would probably be Dr. Frankenstein? Dipper did raise the dead. Mabel: In Monster Falls she is a mermaid which is a pretty good one for her to be honest. As for classic monsters, She might possibly be one of the vampire women in Dracula? They tend to use "love" as analogies as far as I can tell.
Wybie: For Monster Falls, I believe I've seen the idea of him being a fairy actually. As for classic monsters, lets go with Invisible Man. I'm getting Wybie vibes from him for some reason. The guy is kind of intuitive if I remember correctly. Coraline: I've seen the idea of her being a cat creature I think for Monster Falls? For classic monsters, the murder cat from Shadow of the Cat. I hope I am remembering this correctly but the Invisible Woman. The Invisible Man series goes nuts.
Norman: In Monster Falls, I believe that he is a ghost. For classic monster, I want to go with Frankenstein's Monster/the Creature from the book. He is a being that is intelligent and just wants to be accepted, but no one does.
Neil: I think in Monster Falls I've seen him be a zombie. Kind of pairing with Norman you know? When it comes to a classic monster, I actually want to go with the movie Frankenstein's monster. In that one, the Monster does want to become friends with people, but cares less about what society thinks. I mean, he just went right up to the little kid and started playing with her. Raz: For Monster Falls Raz, I want to say he is some sort of water creature such as a water weird or a water nymph. Maybe even a selkie. For classic monsters, I can also see him being the book Frankenstein's Monster but also quite possibly be Dracula. Dracula tries to hide who he is from some people but is usually unapologetic about who he is. Dracula is trying to seem normal to Jonathan while at the same time is terrorizing the nearby villages. Raz ran away to be a Psychonaut without telling his family, but to everyone else, he announces he is a psychic.
Lili: Monster Falls Lili would either be a nature spirit, or a fire spirit. As for classic monsters, maybe the Creature from the Black Lagoon? He tends to do his own thing in his area but as soon as someone encroaches, he's already done with you. Luz: Monster Falls Luz is based on the last episode. If you know, you know. For the classics, maybe the Mummy? I believe he does have magic.
Wirt: Monster Falls Wirt would be a harpy I think. For classic monster, I want to go with the Phantom of the Opera. He indeed loves music, and likes girls. He does not want to be on stage though. (Another idea is Jonathan Harker, but he doesn't count as a monster.)
Greg: Greg is a bit more difficult and I hate that I'm coming up with this idea, but there is a Pop figure of a Beast Greg... The happier idea is a frog sort of creature. For classic monster, the best thing I can think of is the Incredible Shrinking Man. Not the personality though! Greg is not a jerk. Alternative idea is the Invisible Agent. That guy is fun. Anne: Monster Falls Anne would most certainly be a frog person! As for classic monster, I think she would be Bride of Frankenstein's Monster? I don't know why though. I might just want to see her dressed up as Bride of Frankenstein's Monster. If that monster survived the movie for longer than two seconds, she would have been a strong woman. An alternative idea is Frankenstein's Monster from Thy Creature. He has no clue what is going on, but wants to help everyone and has a strong sense of morals. (A lot of classic monsters just doesn't fit Anne.) Sasha: Oh she is definitely a toad person! For the classic monster, she might also be Creature from the Black Lagoon. He is strong and takes initiative. Marcy: I think you know my trend for the girls, Marcy is going to be a newt for Monster Falls. When it comes to classic monsters, I want to go with the Wolfman. The reason of this is her character arc and how she got the girls into Amphibia, and then hides it. She is ashamed about that fact, even though she loves it in Amphibia. So basically, it's a metaphor for lyncanthropy. But! She does end up living with that fact! Like how Laurence Talbot got his lyncanthropy cured in House of Frankenstein! (If you open the tags, you will perish. There is an insane amount of tags.)
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