#who would watch sense8 and NOT want to make out with lito
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bigassbowlingballhead · 3 months ago
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who do i gotta blow to get tzp and miguel angel silvestre making out on my screen.
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variousqueerthings · 5 days ago
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the ask meme for due south cause yeah! and cobra kai
thaaanks -- will do cobra kai separately!
DUE SOUTH! I'VE ONLY HAD YOU FOR (checks) TWO MONTHS? NOW? AND I HAVENT EVEN WATCHED PASSED SEASON TWO BECAUSE I AM TAKING MY SWEET TIME!!!!! BUT OHHHHHH OKOKOKOK
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my favorite female character Meg!!! doubly so because I feel she's probably not popular because she's designated The Love Interest. but she's sooo "puts her under a microscope." - she's so very autism flat voice/resting bitch face coded - add to this she canonically has had issues with male superiors in the past and so her trust in men is Lowww means people around her read her as a bitch (and she is, bless her) - her interactions with fraser, especially once they begin to acknowledge there's mutual smthin going on there, are so fucking funny, because neither of them can just have conversations, it's gotta be a mix of powerplay/who-knows-what-this-is/wants to step on/wants to be stepped on nonsense and so often it's in public!!!! - she was introduced as an authority figure and pretty much has remained so all season, so a lot of her scenes aren't only about love-interest stuff, which is often where female characters fail to get fleshed out -- she's doing her own thing, and if anything, liking fraser is very very annoying to her because she's got shit to do dammit!
my favorite male character fraser and rayv come as such a set pair, argh. the things i like about fraser are the things that rayv corresponds to, the whole martyr-and-guy-who-refuses-to-let-him-be-martyr, the need to give everything and the guy who takes some of the strain, but... i do think fraser edges him out Just (not that kind of edging, stop), because in my heart of hearts, i am always drawn the most to characters who want to be used, characters who want to give every piece of themselves, and within that, characters who are very capable -- AND he fulfills the criteria for another one of my favourite character archetypes, the not-so-talked about butterfly-under-the-wheel (as i first heard @gjdraws call it) he's an atypical version of it, because usually the butterfly-under-the-wheel is partially defined by their inability, that is, they exist to create wonderment/beauty/hope in the world around them, but they don't actually have very many skills and would probably die without the far more pragmatic other characters around them. they do sometimes have a skill (see, lito in sense8) and where fraser fits is that while he has many skills, they're often impractical for survival in the specific world he's in (chicago, capitalism, Society) and his alienation with the world, his unique way of looking at it, constantly makes said world dangerous for him in ways ray has to help him with. he also sucks with money (very common in this type), is considered almost unreal in terms of attractiveness, and ofc... suffers a lot. my sweet sweet butterfly-on-the-wheel
my favorite book/season/etc feels unfair between two seasons -- i will say, i called s2 a denouement the first time i watched it and i think now im watching it slower i am far more able to see it on its own merits, without s1 hanging over it if i do a favourite amount of episodes divided by the amount of episodes in the season however and don't count the Pilot [i leave to calculate] think s2 has more of my very favourite episodes, but i think s1 is more evenly placed in quality overall. what does that tell you? idk, the Pilot's the favourite, shall we say?
my favorite episode (if its a tv show) lol um. toss up. (not counting Pilot) in no particular order: some like it red, mask, vault, north, letting go, the deal, a hawk and a handsaw
my favorite cast member going by amount of other things ive watched, it must be PG, but i have tried to mostly stay away from the cast in interviews and the like
my favorite ship relationship generally (romantic, platonic, third thing, you know the deal) is fraser and ray. like i said, they're thematically a pair, that's just what they are. but i have a reaaal need to explore meg and fraser and ray, considering the shenanigans of two people who feel various kinds of unhinged things about one emotionally somewhat oblivious (but very caring) man
a character I’d die defending gosh, this'd probably go to meg too. specifically her relevance! i think her addition in s2 is incredibly welcome and changes up the dynamics in interesting ways and if you take in her actual personality -- that is, look beyond her "just" as a love interest, she's got a whole lot of interesting foundation, fascinating speech patterns and behaviours, and chemistry with fraser (whether one wants that chemistry to be romantic/sexual is obvs subjective, but their scenes together are Good and tell us a whole lot about both of them in my opinion) i'd also defend victoria As A Scheming No-Good Villainous Person, because I think there's no need to soften her in order to make her cool, idk if that is being done, but i would die on the "her being absolutely terrible" hill is great actually (maybe i'm defending her from some of the writing not wanting to commit, despite... literally all the atrocities... she shot dief!!!??? she burnt down his dad's cabin????? she framed him and tried to send his most important person to jail??????? murder????? and you're telling me that despite all of that she wasn't manipulating him by batting her big beautiful eyes and pretending to be the victim! i desire cruel women in my life dammit!)
a character I just can’t sympathize with i mean... looks above. victoria? but i think she shouldn't be sympathetic anyway. she needs to be a bit vile, a bit fucked up, a bit possessive and destructive for my taste oh and fuck frank zuko of course
a character I grew to love 1. irene! i struggled with her on my first watch and now she's in so many of the private discussions i have about this show -- she does sadly fall right into "fridged woman for man angst" but there are more than enough bits in there + carrie anne moss' performance is absolutely stellar, that you can really feel her as a character as well -- someone trapped, searching for freedom, and nostalgic for something that was probably never going to work out even if they had been able to try it and bitter and stronger than people in the story give her credit for (and ohhhh where's that fic you wrote about her and fraser talking!) 2. frannie. i needed until s2, because s1 just... kept making her weird and stalkery and shallow in ways that i had to just, at times, mentally rewrite (her total lack of situational awareness whilst her brother is drowning in front of her only to be put upon when he's been saved and needs "her good blanket" to keep him warm is like. i simply do not see that scene). but after heaven and earth, beginning with that scene between her and ray, she changes! and you can buy someone building a fantasy and refusing to step out of it because of pain until jolted back into reality and it being a very subtly tragic thing, only to bounce back and take it on the chin. that's frannie!
my anti otp um. i guess fraser and allosexuality/alloromance. that man's relationship to these things is not normative -- he may be analysed to enjoy sex or to want romance, but textually he is so fucking leftfield with these things that if those underpinnings don't exist i can't understand him. my man was canonically asking people to describe what love is supposed to feel like as a 30+ year old man, and had had sex like... possibly once in his 20s (and the consensual aspects to it are vague) and then that same woman at one point in his 30s, who first severely emotionally blackmailed/coerced him and later threatened his life and the lives of his friends that and like. whatever happens to him whenever someone (meg, usually) pushes him around/grabs him/orders him about
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hon. mention to elaine, who i feel has been slowly given less to do in s2 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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cheesybadgers · 1 year ago
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Sylvester McCoy??? Showing up randomly in the middle of a rave??? Okayyyy then 😂
I love elements of this show (Lito/Hernando being the main one tbh…I would absolutely watch a show just about them), but my god it’s a hot mess overall lol. Very glad to have read several Reddit threads questioning its execution, because yeah.
I’m preparing myself to not like one particular thing about the ending. And for the record, I am not against poly stories in general…helloooo, take a look at my fics/WIP ideas/fic rec tag for starters…not to mention, one of my fic titles was inspired by a BBC drama about a poly relationship (and that show, whilst not perfect, was done a lot better than Sense8).
But so much of Lito’s story is centred on him being a gay man and him coming to terms with telling the world Hernando is the love of his life. Like, he jeopardises his career for him. He’s forced out of the closet and has to come out to his mother because of the leaked photo. It’s clearly a big fucking deal to his character and it’s handled so beautifully ❤️
So, I do not understand what possessed the writers to think it was a good idea to introduce Daniela as someone who fetishised Lito/Hernando from the start, including repeatedly taking pictures of them having sex without their consent???? I’m supposed to be invested in that creepy setup? Would they have done this if the genders were reversed and it was a straight dude obsessing over a lesbian couple?
All three characters deserve better than that tbh. Daniela’s entire storyline basically becomes Lito’s and Hernando’s relationship. That’s it. She has no life outside of them. Just a horrible family and an abusive ex-boyfriend. And we’re TOLD she’s the thing that’s been missing from Hernando’s life, but I don’t feel like we’re really SHOWN it. What was so bad about his and Lito’s life before?? What was missing that Dani specifically brings to their relationship? They seemed very much in love and Lito was turning women down all over the place to go home to his boyfriend.
And that is a big problem in this show in general: being told things rather than shown them over and over again.
Btw this isn’t me being all ‘how dare a woman get in the way of a mlm ship’ before anyone says anything 😉 I plan on writing a FMM poly fic for a different fandom at some point, so no. That isn’t my problem here. In fact, I feel like if they’d introduced Daniela in pretty much ANY other way than how they did it, I’d have bought into a thruple a hell of a lot more.
Speaking of consent, as hot as the orgy scenes are and as funny as Lito’s and Will’s scene afterwards is, I’m confused by the fact Will didn’t seem to remember it had happened? Or was he just too embarrassed to admit it happened? And what about the non-sensates like Hernando and Amanita who only think they’re having sex with their long term partners, but actually a whole group of strangers have dialled in for a live sex show as well?? Again, interesting idea in theory, but the execution is…iffy af.
And all of this has been DRIVING ME MAD 😂 It’s making me irrationally annoyed lol. Because there’s so much potential amongst all of this and I do love some of the other characters as well Lito/Hernando, but it’s all kind of been drowned out.
Oh and then there’s the racial stereotyping all over the place. “This is Mexico” made me want to throw things.
Once again, I’m late to the party and just started Sense8. I’m only one episode in, but for some reason, it’s giving me Heroes-when-it-was-actually-good vibes. Those were the days.
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wellntruly · 3 years ago
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Sense8, Season 2, Half the Second + the Finale
In retrospect I really should have listened to my instincts saying I should write up the back half of S2 before watching the film-length series finale, but the problem with that was: I just wanted to keep watching so bad. An error was made! Because there is much to discuss in 2x07-2x11, but it becomes difficult to parcel it out in light of how the conclusion of this show was a 2.5 hour euro-hopping Gotta Get Our Guy epic that was also 3x more of a comedy than the rest of the series—a move I, if you’ll pardon me, L😘VED.
So this is surely gonna be a whole mess to structure, but you know what we’ll try!
Alright, in my recollection, the latter half of Season 2 has three big showdown tentpoles, they are:
- Wolfgang v. Lila (Cluster v. Cluster) - Dani v. Hollywood - Sun v. Bro
There is other stuff going on too of course, like Capheus being swept into whole ass political warfare (again!), and the thing where Will is actual-pants circling a heroin addiction from his time evading Whispers. This rules honestly, I like outcomes. And also affords us a really great Will/Kala scene, honestly one of my favorite pair-ups for both of them. Kala has this very open and thoughtfully distracting way of being a damsel in distress, where it’s like she just arrives and goes I’m having a personal issue, and I am trying to deal with that, but you’re about to do something very stupid so I had to come over here, and now we both need to help each other. And of course on Officer Little Spoon, that’s basically all he’s ever wanted to hear. I can both help and be helped simultaneously, my dream!
The different things that come out of different cluster combinations is one of my favorite, favorite things about this show. I’m a nerd who loves thinking about the mechanics of storytelling, and a premise where we always have seven other people who could arrive to contextualize a character’s circumstances feels like I’ve been given the biggest writing snack box I've ever seen. Anything you want to have happen, there’s someone who can get that going for you. Anything you’re curious about with a character, there’s someone who can open that door. This is a truly, truly character-driven show, which I believe is why [behind the scenes clip] I have been struggling trying to write this post by plot instead of characters this time. It just doesn’t work that well with Sense8, that’s not how it’s built. I mean here I was trying to frame this around three main plot beats of the second half of S2, and in less than a paragraph I’m getting waylaid into talking about my favorite cluster pairs and how & why they work the way they do!
For instance, if you ask me one of the all-time combinations, for just the pure Sense8 vibes of them, is Riley/Sunnnn, Riley/Sun! I think it’s because they are able to just be tired with each other in a way neither of them fully are with anyone else. So although they’re a melancholy pair, they’re also one of the most relaxed, and it has a relaxing effect on us too—something of that base Zen I was trying to describe back at the beginning.
Some SUBLIME Sun/Lito material in the back half of S2 too. Both raucously and poignantly juxtaposing one another, sometimes all at the same time, the way they always are together ("and she's not crying the same way that I'm not SCREAMING!") I could quote whole swaths of their new crying scene here with Lito flung on her bed with the stuffed animals, but I will refrain!
But Sun is like salt: she brightens every other sensate she's paired with. That’s part of what makes her such an ideal focal point for another big cluster collab to center around this season. The other appeal is that Sun getting to fight at a gala means she’ll be doing so wearing something incredible. Did I know it would mostly be just silver metallic booty shorts and kicky ankle boots? Well I could never have dreamed.
Nor could I have dreamt up Detective Mun, one of the few times a character is introduced just to be a love interest where you’re like oh but TOTALLY babe. I was pretty on board with him from when he showed up at her teacher’s house, but when he next appears in his hoot of a graveyard groundskeeper disguise, then proceeds to spar with her all through the tombstones because he knows that will make her feel better, and then literally a single tear drops out of this man’s eye when he gets one kiss from her, uh. I shipped it. A lot. God get his handsome ass, Sun.
Speaking of handsome asses!!—I will be yelling “FROM QUEER TO ETERNITY!” for the rest of my goddamn life. Oh…my fucking god. Mexico City sure has a hell of a run here, but when is Mexico City NOT having a hell of a run, I ask you! Listen I had been waaaaaaiiting for Daniela to become Lito’s agent, oh howww had I been waiting. She needs a job and he needs someone to get him a job, and clearly she was going to be a NATURAL at it. DOUBLE FISTING HER & HERNANDO’S CELLPHONES LIKE THE LATINA MALCOLM TUCKER, I’m in love.
I do have a sliiiight question though. In this Mexico…did Y Tu Mamá También not come out like fifteen years earlier? Did not Gael García Bernal and Diego Luna go on to become huge stars, careers very not tarnished? Did not Gael García Bernal—whom we’ve confirmed canonically exists in this timeline!—then even make La Mala Educación with Pedro Almodóvar also?? Fuuuuck wait Lito needs to make an Almodóvar are you KIDDING me, that’s your new hugely emotional gay niche buddy!!!!! But really though, not to get side-tracked: is the Mexican film industry really that homophobic? I mean yes, Mexico is a very conservative country, but like, so is America. Yeah of course I can see a situation where say, none of the Marvel stars would be “allowed” to be out because for massive action movies you need to make massive profits in order to make back the production costs, and so you don’t want to risk ostracizing conservative America and conservative China, so sure, with the Latino machismo thing in play as well, can totally see why Lito coming out would mean he couldn’t keep making the kind of mainstream het-flicks that had been his bread & butter. But for his whole agency to drop him??? In the county that has produced three filmmakers who between them have won 50% of the Oscars for best directing of the past ten years?? That is where I’m starting to get the feeling this might have been a bit…much. But y’know, by the other hand we sure had São Paulo Pride, so it’s completely not that this show is acting like you just can’t be gay in public in Latin America. Perhaps, like most everything, it’s just a complex situation. Perhaps there’s some truth here, as well as some exaggeration, like a lot of TV and movies, from a lot of different countries.
Hey I got another question! But this one is a world-building thought experiment I’ve become rather fixated on. You see I’m really curious over how this whole other cluster of Lila’s seems to be evil, as they are all helping her with what she’s doing. How does that come about. Are clusters just naturally similarly morally oriented to one another pre-connection, or is it more that after rebirth they might start moving toward one another in a heightened kind of groupthink. What if one member of our cluster had been like I Want To Be Bad News, would the rest of them just be like aw lame, black sheep of the family, or could they have been swept into it too? Like could the tendency toward sensorium groupthink be really dangerous, something you’d need to be careful about, to guard your cluster against being infected by an Idea. I’m fascinated by this possibility.
I guess if our cluster were going to be pulled toward darker behavior, it would probably have to be by Wolfgang, but part of what’s fascinating about HIM, is that just simply is not going to be happening on his watch. His loyalty drive is so interesting. He just woke up one day connected to these people and was like okay yeah I’ll lay down my life for you weirdos. I mean the whole Lila thing even happens because Wolfgang wants to just take care of this for the group, make sure no harm or worry comes to them regardless of what might happen to himself. Meanwhile everyone in his actual life he’s like, we have nothing between us Actually, sorry. Associates, randos, family—all the same. The big blinking exception of course is single solitary Felix, who is basically the model for how he’ll treat his clustermates.
Yet all that said, I was fucking staggered by the turn of the S2 finale. I REALLY had not expected Wolfgang for a kidnapped role! This is honestly an avant-garde choice. I mean to quote Jerah Milligan talking about The Old Guard: “—first of all, I knew that white dude was getting kidnapped. I don’t know why. I was like, something about him seems too nice: they gon’ get him. [laughs]” Because that’s how it usually goes!! But Wolfgang ISN’T nice in that kidnappable way, at all. Though admittedly I guess by this point we’ve already strapped down every other available white person to a bed at some time. And, as discussed, Wolfgang is a dramatically interesting choice because his cluster safety prioritizing instincts mean he will have approximately one hair’s worth of resistance to overcome to the idea that he should just take himself out, like their mom, before the Cannibal can eat through him to them. Wolfgang comes with his own self-destruct timer, basically.
Anyway this plot really is at its core the very same shape as The Old Guard, which does make me wonder: what is it about queer, multi-racial, supernatural-inflected action projects and the plot driver of “they took one of our people for Torture and we are going to get them back.”
For that is the simple and spicy gambit that kicks off the events of S3! Or the condensed feature we got of it, at least. No matter, nosebleeds and pained panting for everyone! Highly effective measure to bring everyone together, and quickly. I acknowledge we needed to keep tumbling forward for that sense of urgency, so I’ll just imagine in my head the missed moments of them all reeling a bit at finally touching one another for real [tiny scream]. And, Lito finally telling Hernando and Dani!!!!! In the most traumatizing possible circumstances good job baby.
Perhaps odd that from all this angst the final few hours would turn out to be so funny, but oh my god were they, and oh my god Yes.
Where even to begin. Well here’s one: There’s no way I can prove this but I never believed Jonas was dead and guess what. Meanwhile I *had* believed he’d turn out to have always been the goodest of guys, but was absolutely exhilarated by his steady development into this mild-mannered enigma no one can make heads or tails of anymore. Schrödinger's ally. This conversational sensorium Fae where you truly don’t know if he’s here to help you or harm you at any given moment, but everyone has just accepted him as part of the ecosystem. He shows up and they’re just like, aw jeez. Literally Nomi when he first reappears: “I didn’t think I could be any more confused by you, but congratulations, you found a way.” Literally Will by Jonas’s last pop-up appearance in the finale: “OhPLEASE Jonas not now!” Incredible.
The thing is, Lana Wachowski can DO funny. She can direct these totally kick ass, cinematic, big ol heroics fight scenes one episode, and then the next an action sequence as perfectly human and hilarious as that disorganized scramble up and back down the rooftops of Paris, that had me wheezing. Oh my gOD. Nomi suddenly running back to save Amanita even though that’s SO stupid, Lito immediately haring after her yelling “Family we’re coming!!”, meanwhile Jonas just does a runner off the other edge and Will’s like ahhhfjafd, and slips trying to go after him. Overjoying. And that’s all before we got to the tour bus Trojan Horse scene, A G I F T. Me in my notes, visibly losing it: “Asian tourists Sun and Mun are MURDERING me, Lito looks EXACTLY LIKE SUFJAN STEVENS, Felix has a bandanna holding back his bangs and is cowering with Wolfie in pastel denims—help help help help”
There really seemed to be a deliberate choice to make the finale more comedic, which just to reiterate, I am aaaall about. Humor does not have to come at the expense of drama or stakes! Imo it often enhances them.
I also feel there were a couple character notes given out before the finale got underway. One, make Capheus a blast and a half—dang you did it! He is so fun in “Season 3.” Sort of a return to how happy-go-lucky he was in S1 before the weight of the world really started coming down on his shoulders, but also just a little bit of a reconfiguring as well. He became super effusive, basically, the kind of person who immediately upon meeting him is going to sweep Felix up in his arms for a big laughing bear hug. He’s basically become the cluster’s wise himbo, if that’s not a contradiction in terms, and it’s a welcome energy.
The second was the reboot of Rajan back to the absurdly sweet goober he was in S1, something that allowed for a HUGE development to unfold, which we are at last gonna get to.
Rare for a male character, I appreciate that Rajan has gone through three distinct styling looks over these three seasons, which I will call The Hair, The Cut, and The Beard. 1 and 3 are good! Interestingly, Rajan the character is bad in S2 too—connection?? But honestly somehow Rajan had slid from being the crushingly sincere dreamboat who planned a whole dance number to do for his wife at their wedding, to this distracted pharma husband whom I was pretty certain was involved in whole scale political racketeering. The reveal that he was actually helping uproot some political racketeering does work I guess, but what works the most is having him show up in Paris in a little scarf being baffled while cradling scientific equipment someone’s handed him to his chest with both arms. Well this man is back to being adorable, I thought, and I am SO supportive.
The thing is, The Hair was always great, and The Beard is him but more. He’s kind, he’s funny (the only utterance of “My wife!” I have ever burst out laughing at), he’s usefully loaded, and he almost always meets new circumstances with that combination of curiosity, factual reasoning, and open-mindedness that I think of as a marker of all good scientists. It is no wonder to me at all that Kala spent the finale realizing she really does love this dude, nor after processing it for 1.5 seconds, am I at all surprised that Wolfgang was like wait hang on, can I like him too? Wolfgang Brogdanow, who has been turning his mouth towards the mouths of other men since Orgy 1, was so imminently suited to be like hey, now that I’ve met him and he’s fucking cute, a Thought: do you guys wanna party. What if we’re over the love triangle, what if the threesome is what we do.
AND SO THAT’S JUST WHAT WE DID. I whole-heartedly approve, wow suddenly I'm invested in Kala/Wolfgang now that it's this!! Plus Lito & Hernando decided to have some sexy make-out fun with Dani, a very hot and adorable choice as well.
Because Sense8 said OBVIOUSLYYY we’re ending with another big queer sense-orgy come on, come on. The final shot will be a pan over the newlywed lesbians’ discarded strap-on then a cut to “for our fans,” fuck yes and good NIGHT.
And a final round of loose notes I’d jotted down:
wait Neets has THREE dads??? I just thought she had two!
the thing is by this point I look at Wolfgang and am like, I’d give you a kidney
OBSESSED with the Ikea glass of water next to the blockers in the abandoned church
Hernando and Dani are having strawberry margaritas and Lito just walked out in a onesie
man, I should just try to be the Amanita I want to see in the world
“I’m not saying it’s not natural—though, let us remember that cancer is natural, so naturalism itself should not be considered a virtue—” Kala I love you
~*Iberian Dreams*~
forever entranced with Sun’s teacher handing her a carpetbag and saying he packed her some clothes, and then literally every new scene of her for the rest of the series she is wearing the coolest high end fashion piece you have ever seen in your life. sir!?
y’know what Brian J. Smith is doing a good job here, the boy’s been a wreck since the moment he entered the hallway
god every golden hour shot in India, the colors…
their crowd scenes are so intense because they really get the CROWD, and it FEELS different
every time Will tries to say he’s a cop…shhh honey please, shh no please
I *love* them all piling up together behind the car, the choREOgraphy
Kala like excuse me, can I just, and reaching right into Sun’s bra: we love it
OPENLY WEEPING OVER THIS NOMI/NEETS PROPOSAL
oh I was TRULY WONDERING if we were ever going to go back to how much Wolfgang loves singers but is afraid to sing! wow remember when it seemed like that was gonna be his thing.
Jonas would be reading Proust
me at a certified killer, armed: “Barefoot biscuit, this is never gonna work”
wait they’re finally speaking Hindi what the fuck!!
well at least it happened for a moment!
yeessss Dani
yeeeeeesssss Dani
fuck I love this show people are always saying shit like “I’m the Speaker of the Archipelago”
doing it at a club is delicious. Milton is literally leashed.
aww, I just realized our cluster is an orphan 😩
everything Max Mauff does with his body in this Wolfie reunion scene caused me to make a convulsive gesture with my hands. good show buddy, wow
my favorite Lila is no question Italy Endures Lila
Puck’s hair thing, is so weird, I’m obsESSED
honestly big ups to everyone’s boyfriends for their rapid up-take of this: Hernando, Rajan, Mun, Felix—this one’s for you, boys!
Wolfgang teaching Rajan through Kala and finding this oddly enjoyable…I don’t know if we skipped past the part where they’re all okay with it but I love the world where they’re all okay with it
I’m so glad we get to end this with a big gay wedding
a big gay wedding set to the Magnetic Fields??!? are you doing this to me right now!
the AMOUNT of poly threeways happening here!! I mean just two but that’s an astonishing number. out of six!! that’s a third!!
anyway everyone in this cluster is the guidance counselors from Caleb Gallo, but especially Lito and Hernando
Will: You guys are in like a three way…relationship? Lito: It’s called a throuple we’re in a throuple. Hernando: We’re in a gay-centric semi-nonsexual throuple with us and Daniela. Will: Will: What is— Hernando: It means we don’t have sex with her as often as we have sex with each other, but we do love her and she does live here and she’s in this relationship. Lito: She’s in this relationship.
(Kala, leaning forward from where Rajan and Wolfgang are nibbling each of her ears (they just cheerfully fall forward into the space she’s vacated to keep making out behind her): “Wait can you repeat this?”)
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fencesandfrogs · 2 years ago
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did you have a favorite character on sense8? i only watched the first season i think and i liked all of them but i remembered really enjoying Wolfgang, Sun, and Lito's arcs personally
oh man it's been ages since i watched and i'm bad w names (memory problem) so let me just cheat and check the wiki.
i'll lead with: i really like every character in sense8. picking a favourite would be hard. actually i'm just going to ramble on the cluster and associates and let u draw ur conclusions lol. i'm very indecisive n bad at picking favourites. there will prob b spoilers nonnie sorry i don't remember what was what season in my head it's all one chunk of television
will: took me a while to appreciate him, but i like how his story ended. i really like him n riley, but i don't appreciate either of them alone? like i'm thinking about it and i don't have much to say other than one thing i'm putting in riley's section to give her some meat.
riley: see will. also, i really like...there was that thing when they were playing a trick on where they were? so they got the yogurt? i was super excited bc i really like icelandic yogurt so i was like YEAH THAT'S MY SHIT
capheus: OH MAN i fucking love him. i didn't get his references and i thought it was funny when he said zebra (rhymes w debra) but i really, really, really grew to love him. he's just such a warm guy and i can't think of a single moment he was on screen that i didn't like. also as someone who can't drive (or, well, couldn't at the time and now a very big "it's complicated"), his driving? like? that was easily the MOST superhero shit in the show to me
sun: i really liked her plot line, but not while i was watching the show. i was watching this show as a fairly young teen, so i didn't really have a good appreciation for what was going on with her at first. i was very "screw your family! why the hell are you making these decisions!" now, looking back, with the benefit of a good number of years (and some more life experiences and cultural awareness), i have a lot of love for her.
lito: i lied he's my favourite. as soon as he came up on the list i realized that, without hesitation, he's my favourite. no ifs ands or buts about it. i don't know why. i never really related to him very much (i would LATER, but i always adored him), and i wasn't like "oh cool gay character!", so i can't really say. i just know that i adore this man. what he does for daniela? holy shit dude. lito my beloved.
kala: i really like her but i don't have much to say. also i like the scene where she's mixing chemicals. i like her relationships. i just really like her but in a quiet way. she never stole the show for me, but i love her a lot.
wolfgang: eh...i d k. i never got into his plots. nothing against the dude, he just never really spoke to me? i did LIKE his plots, i just wasn't half as invented, and i thought he just was kind of meh. like cool dude go have your diamonds. whatever. i want to b really clear that the fact that i'm being so passé about him is deceptive because if you asked me to compare wolfgang and a character from like. anything else. i'd go oh yeah wolfgang is 10 million times better.
nomi: uhhhhhhhhhhhh. she's torn up in a tangle of emotions for me. i was watching this show as a young, trans teen with home life issues (if you can't tell from the disorder), but she also didn't "hit too close to home" or even "close to home." at the same time, she was kind of the dream. (well, sense8 plot aside.) she got out. she transitioned. she had a fucking amazing girlfriend. so i have this weird emotion about nomi i don't know how to express. i think it's positive, though.
amanita: what you thought i was only doing the cluster? nope. i have to get amanita in here so we're also doing a few bonuses. i fucking LOVE amanita. i love how she adapts to nomi's situation. i love her i love her i love her. going through the past few months, i now know just how valuable having a support like her is when you're dealing with multiple people in your head. (no, osddid and sense8 aren't alike, except superficially, but there are some meaningful comparisons to be made.) so. yeah. she's always been really top tier for me, but i have a new and profound appreciation for how important she is.
hernando: he's fine. i just feel weird leaving him out since i'm gonna do daniela. i get his struggle, i really do. i just don't love him.
daniela: FUCK YEAH DANI. okay i love her sm. she really, really had to grow on me: at first i thought she was kind of a bitch, and then i thought she was REALLY a bitch, and then i loved her. i have no idea when the flip switched, but it did and it did HARD.
riley's dad: sorry i don't feel like seeing if he has a name i assume he does
wait hold on tumblr yelled at at me for having too many characters in a block LOL
staff hey hey hey staff please make bullets not work as one block if ur gonna b like that about it that's really annoying
(also please let me copy text across more than one block. it's really hard to move around multiple paragraphs of text at a time. it's been driving me crazy. pls help me.)
okay ANYWAY.
riley's dad: i really, really love him. holy fuck i want to give him a hug. no. i want to get a hug from him. i love him sm.
so yeah that's how i feel lol
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ladylionheartinthelibrary · 4 years ago
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In this week’s episode of media I resisted watching because I thought I wouldn’t like it but then found out I loved it and binge-watched it all in less than a week: Sense8
Sun? An absolute hero. Underappreciated beacon of badassery and quiet devotion. More well-adjusted than anyone I’ve ever met. Would be honored to have her kick my ass
Capheus? A sweetheart like no other. Deserves only good things. Definitely gives amazing hugs
Nomi? Computer goddess against the man. 10/10 would love to read her blog or better yet, have her read it to me
Amanita? Deserves that sainthood for being the most understanding, most supportive girlfriend in the world. Also cute af and deserves more costume opportunities
Lito? Dramatic, charming, and hero af. Quotes his own movies, which is a bit pretentious, but he gets a pass because same. I would probably binge watch his whole collected works
Hernando? Light of my life. Handsome (art?) professor who also quotes Lito’s movies but with romance.
Kala? Ray of sunshine just trying her best to make her family happy. We love a queen with a chemistry degree who makes me want to forgive religion. Good person vibes
Wolfgang? Same good person energy but also, like opposite. Gangster with a heart of maybe not gold but definitely some precious metal. Rogue big brother who maybe disappointed your parents but would absolutely kill someone to protect you
Felix? Life of the party. Might be my favorite character. Would absolutely talk shit to get you into a fight but you can’t help but love him
Will? White boy with a hero complex but gosh, do I love him for it. Also trying his best to keep the people he loves safe. Became a druggie to protect his family so I would die for him
Riley? DJ sweetheart I would also die for. Very brave, very smart. Doing a wonderful job of loving again even despite her pain. I’ve never been to a rave and I don’t even like clubs but I would 10000000 percent go with her to a party. Impeccable taste in music.
The found family vibes? Immaculate
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edourado · 4 years ago
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Driving on Clouds
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It appears that I can simply no longer write. Thank you, anxiety.
This one was written in December, 2018. I was way too insecure to post anything Sense8, so it just sat there on my files until now.
It's short, but hopefully it will help me kick my writing back into gear.
With much, much love.
(Read it on AO3, if you prefer)
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When Wolfgang walked through the doors, he knew where to go. The doorman was told he was coming.
“Ah, yes, you’re expected”, he said from behind his station. “Go right ahead, sir. It is the penthouse.”
Yes, he knows.
Kala was not there, he knew that, too.
After Paris, they wanted to be together, and they were, in a way. But he had to go back to Berlin before joining them in Bombay.
Will had told him, and so had Riley. Visiting is great, visiting is essential, visiting is like breathing, but physical presence is unbeatable.
Today, though, of all days, she had to be on blockers.
Lito was a mess, both working on his movie and freaking out about it. Nomi was still wrapped up in her honeymoon, so things could get… Distracting. Sun was fighting a whole war of her own back in Seoul, trying to put order to her father’s company, dealing with her criminal brother, her lawyers, the media, politicians, her new relationship, her dog, her training. It was a lot. Capheus was a little bit in over his head with his campaign, he could get both overwhelmed and overwhelming. Will and Riley had a lot of shit to sort out, back in America and Iceland, but they were the easiest ones to deal with. Still, Will needed Kala’s attention often, that pesky heroin habit was not that easy to kick, his body was still recovering.
But she did have a job to do. And if she really wanted to regulate Rasal’s shipping protocols, she needed to focus. So did Rajan.
She had a meeting in the morning, he had one in the afternoon. Wolfgang's flight from Berlin had arrived sometime during lunch hour, and Rajan did send a car to pick him up, but neither he nor Kala were able to be there.
“Let me know when you get here”, she had told him before she took her blocker, sitting by his side on the plane - first class, thank you Rajan - while finishing her make-up before work. “Text me, or something.”
“Seems absurd”, he mused, admiring her figure in the pencil skirt she was wearing. “Having to text you.”
Kala smiled, turning to him after putting her hair in a high ponytail.
“I know. But I have to focus, this is important. I can’t risk having Lito doing his voice exercises while I’m in the middle of trying to convince the board to change their entire business practices. Capheus also has a meeting, can you imagine the mess?”
Wolfgang sat there, looking at her, wishing this flight would land already.
“Or you”, she went on, softer, and he felt his mouth curving in a smile, knowing what she meant. “Popping in without any clothes on.”
“I wouldn’t do that”, he said, lying, because he would.
“Right.”
She leaned in to kiss him and Will was right. It felt good, kissing her when she was not really there, but he had experienced her in the flesh already. He had kissed her for real, and they visited while doing it, that connection was something addicting.
“Hopefully you’ll be here when I’m done”, she said, leaning back to caress his face, all business again.
“Is that Wolfgang?” Rajan asked, walking into the bedroom, looking for something. “Is his flight on time?”
“Yes, it’s on schedule”, she replied, and Wolfgang watched as her husband walked around looking for something, a little frantic, and Kala asked what he needed, and he said he lost his briefcase, and she suggested he looked in the car, and he walked out again, stressed, talking about too many things to do at once.
Wolfgang had stayed with her until she had to walk in for her meeting, kissing her goodbye while she nodded to her assistant that she would be right there.
“See you in three hours.”
Blocker in, connection dissolved, he spent the rest of his flight alone.
Now, he rode the elevator to the penthouse he had never actually been in, but knew every inch of.
Rajan was in his office when he walked in, on the phone, and Wolfgang didn’t understand the language he spoke - another downside of not having the connection with Kala.
He looked serious when he looked up and saw him. Wolfgang dropped the bag from his shoulder and sat on the chair in front of the desk, frowning while Rajan seemed to argue with the person on the other end of the line.
“Everything ok?” He asked when the man hung up, a sigh escaping him.
Rajan got up, rubbing his hands on his face, and Wolfgang got up, too.
“Fine, yes. This Ajay thing, it’s more difficult than I anticipated. But no matter. How was your flight?”
A lot had happened in Paris. A lot. The hug they shared seemed, at the same time, appropriate and out of place.
“Kala wanted to know when you arrived right away.”
Wolfgang nodded, and explained. “My phone died.”
Rajan walked them to the living room, to pour them a drink before he needed to leave.
“She is still in her meeting, anyway.”
They sat and talked about life, normal things, Felix and Fuchs and Berlin and the kingdoms. Rajan told him what he could about the investigation, his worries and reservations, and shared the part he didn’t burden Kala with, about feeling anxious about their - and especially her - safety.
“If I can help…” Wolfgang offered, not sure if he could, but willing to, anyway. Rajan smiled, not quite cold but not as warm as he normally did. Worried. He looked a bit thinner, and had bags under his eyes.
“Make yourself at home”, he said, getting up to go to work. “You must be very tired. Rest, eat something. She will be here before me.”
Wolfgang nodded and reached his arm out to grab Rajan by the front of his shirt, pulling him down until they were, quite literally, face to face.
Wolfgang understood that this was all very new to Rajan still. Including this level of intimacy with another man - even after Paris. So the kiss he collected was a chaste one. Slow, careful, a touch of lips, nothing more.
Sure enough, Rajan blinked at him when he let him go, but smiled, a bit awkward, but sincere.
“We’ll all have dinner, yes?”
Nodding, Wolfgang let him go and watched as Kala’s husband walked away.
Alone in the apartment, he looked at his watch: one, maybe two hours until she was here.
.:.
The blocker wore off while she was in the car, and she helped Capheus with his tie, updating him on the progress she was making with the company and the shipment policies. She wished him good luck with his own meeting, and then she was alone with her driver again.
“Hello, my wife” Rajan had greeted her when she walked into her office and found him waiting for her. They talked about work for a few minutes, because she didn’t want to immediately ask what she wanted to ask. But he could read it on her face.
“He is here”, he said. “His phone died, that’s why you didn’t get a text message. But he is waiting for you.”
She kissed him before she hurried out, grateful all over again for how incredible he was being about this.
Ganesha had not failed her. Her husband was, truly, a gift.
She felt the water around her when she crossed the threshold. He was swimming, and she should have guessed that was where she was going to find him.
That pool was, after all, for him. Always has been, her decision to get his place more than a little influenced by it.
Still. Seeing him actually here, even if he had visited it so many times before, was incredible.
Kala watched as he did his laps, the afternoon sun glowing against the water.
His wet fingers caressed her arms while she watched him swim, and she took her shoes off before stepping to the edge of the pool, his lips on her face as he swam back to her.
Her skirt soaked quickly when she sat down, her legs in the water, and Kala wanted to sigh in happiness when his hands, his actual hands, touched her calves, fingers running up to her knees and caressing her thighs.
He was here, she could touch him, and she did, but they visited, and that connection ran through them like electricity and honey, alive, a current of presence that threatened to lift her up into the air.
Her fingers in his face were his on her own, running up to his hair, her hair, her fingers, his fingers, his face, hers, they’re here.
They’re here.
Wolfgang pulled her into the pool with him, and she giggled and he smiled, her clothes soaking, neither of them caring.
She was all wrapped around him, finally, she felt she could breathe again,
“I missed you”, she said against his lips while he gently pulled her hair tie off, and Kala was honestly losing track if it was his hand or her hand doing it.
Who cares, at this point.
“Me too”, he said before kissing her, finally, open and soft and hungry and devoted, a few weeks without him and she had been left yearning, even if hardly one night went by without him in her bed - Rajan couldn’t possibly know how many times he was actually kissing him instead of her, no matter how honest she tried to be and how hard she tried to explain.
He removed her clothes and they sat by the edge of the pool, soaked, and they were alone while he explored her and she clung to him in the water, thank goodness. This was their moment, and she wanted it to be just for them.
After lunch, however, they were in bed and he had told her he liked the wind coming in through the window, he was on top of her and she had her legs around him, and then there were four people, two in Bombay and two in Chicago, four people that understood the connection between two sensates in love within their cluster, she felt Riley’s lips and Will’s hands, Wolfgang, Wolfgang, Wolfgang, two places at once, four people, lips on her neck, the echo of a kiss that followed the real thing, his tongue against hers, his hand pressing so hard on her hip, she had missed him so much, Wolfgang, she would never go back, she would never give this up, she would never let go of him, Wolfgang-
Thank God for gravity.
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akegatacchi · 5 years ago
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Sense8 AU!aftg
In the honor of absolutlynothing I’ve decided to put out there one of the many au I have on my phone and archive it there
Big shout out to @a-m-peengoo and @bluesuederose for participating in this mess with genius lines and always be there to bear my 36 ideas per hour. We did a masterpiece girls.
Here we go it’s gonna be long
The cluster:
Kevin: Nomi. He’s just a fuckin hacker who’s running away from his family (riko). When he’s bored, he spends nights crashing the Pentagon system for fun, and makes every screen in the White House play Best Exy Actions Compilation (the longest and hardest part is choosing one compilation to play).
Dan: Will. One of them have to keep them under control. Plus, Dan with a gun i can’t even-
Matt: Riley. Soft, blue strand of hair, a heart of gold, maternal. As a DJ. Yes. SO SOFT (he still knows how to box)
Allison: Capheus. Listen. Imagine Allison in high heels, skin tight leather pants, driving a bus. Also, a F1 pilot champion who can drive anything (even if it’s the first time)
Andrew: Wolfgang. Duh. Do I need to explain myself. Just think abt him saying “This is Berlin. Those are my people. And we go to our knees for no one”.Boy he does NOT like this situation, at all. Will keep the others out with sheer willpower and no blockers. The cluster’s deadliest weapon. PLUS HELLO???? ANDREW IN A PASTEL PINK BOMBER SHOOTING ON A HELICOPTER WITH A BAZOOKA????
Aaron: Felix? Sorta? not a senseate but a great doctor. Senses bullshit and when someone is in Andrew’s body real quick  (Andrew: says more than 2 sentences and is pleasant. Aaron:.....who’s that bitch where is my brother) . Later helps to manufacture blockers.
Neil: Kala. A pharmacist that uses his skill for arson and may or may not be running away from mafia/family matter and currently hiding in India. Him saying “Bring it, bitch” to Riko is my sexuality and Andrew’s. Can create explosives from a Fanta can and spices I mean it’s already canon in aftg. (plus andreil would work even better bc technically Neil can’t even touch Andrew for real)
Nicky: Lito. The drama, the sass. Also the scene where he discovers the Twinyard in Germany are his cousins would be hilarious. The scene where Lito seduces the nurse but with Nicky (“engaging into heterosexual activity? me????”) or the scene where Lito screams in the museum but with Nicky
Erik as Hernando. That’s it that’s the post.
Renee: Sun. I mean, a korean fighter lady in prison trying to be a better person and had a silent bffs relationship with a german gangster? Come on. Also. Allison in a bus and Renee doing art martials stuff. 
Riko: whispers i guess he can eat Allison’s high heels
Now the ~scenes~ (it’s just shitposting):
Aaron, on the verge on several break downs: wait so you have like … DJ Blue Matt and F1 pilot Allison Reynolds in your head? since when? ANDREW SINCE WHE-
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Neil: what’s a better use of a multiple thousands dollars education than precise arson?????
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Aaron: why does your boyfriend always end up burning things up?
Andrew: he lits up my heart as well
Aaron: FOR FUCK SAKE
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Kevin, shocked and betrayed: is there a better sport than exy?
Aaron and Allison: YEAH A REALLY GOOD CAR RACE
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Allison: you’re - you’re like the spirit of Lucy Liu. In Charlie’s Angels. I watch it once a day. Renee:.....that’s sweet actually :) 
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Neil: does a molotov cocktail
Matt: I tHoUgHt yOu wErE a PhArMaCiSt
Neil: Yes? That’s PHYSICS
Matt: no that’s ARSON NEIL
Alternative:
Kevin: breaks into the Pentagon virtually
Neil: breaks into the Pentagon physically
Matt, again: i thought you were a PHARMACIST!!!! Neil: Yes I am??? That’s irrelevant
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A senseate sibling, escaping, grabbing a vehicle at random: someone knows how to drive that?
Allison, in stilettos : no, but I sure will soon
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Just Allison driving Renee around to fight people
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Everytime someone mocks a senseate sibling Neil or Nicky shows up to roast them. Sometimes they do it both at the same time. It’s apocalyptic. The sass. The drama. 
They can also bullshit their way out of any situation. Neil is such a smooth liar and Nicky is just ridiculous. The FBI agent charged to arrest them somehow ends up crying abt childhood trauma while hugging a teddy bear.
Neil, caught in the act of making a string of explosives by the FBI guy: uuuuuuh….Nicky?
Nicky, currently dealing with a white mom in retail: somehow convince the FBI to buy christmas lights
(Yes Nicky works in retail bc his family cut ties with him but he hopes to be an actor.ON BROADWAY)
(From retail to actor to cluster negotiator real quick)
A  fuckin moron to Allison: a hottie like you driving a bus? what is this, hooker on wheels?
Neil: please let me have this one
Allison: seats back and enjoys Neil roasting him
Nicky: brings the popcorn
Nicky, to the FBI guy: You can’t arrest me Daryl I’m your long lost little brother
The FBI guy, a white man: My name is not Daryl Neil: THAT’S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE
The FBI guy, texting Neil (don’t ask): I guess I’m still in love with my ex
Nicky: aaaaaw we have to help this sweetheart
Neil: do you want me to burn his current boyfriend’s car, buddy?
(Nicky: DON’T REMIND HIM THAT HE’S SUPPOSED TO ARREST US)
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A fuckin homophobe: ready to get your ass kicked, faggot?
Andrew: appears through Nicky
Nicky, smiling: fuck yeah, baby 
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Andrew, between two bazooka shot, to Neil:  we’re nothing
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Nicky, through Andrew, all cheery: Hi!!!! :D
(Aaron jumps like a scared cat)
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Andrew: ready to kill ppl for mafia business
All the senseate siblings in the back minus Renee, eating popcorn and enjoying the show: Kick ass, Drew!
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Andrew, on the hospital bed: has an emotional moment with Aaron
Aaron: sir or ma'am, idk who you are but it’s family only, I will ask you, as his doctor, to leave my brother’s body
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Aaron: Andrew is2g if you’re making psychic love to that fuckin red hair rn i will-
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Andrew each time a senseate is hurt: Aaron it’s for you
(Just Aaron doing med tutorials for a whole cluster while Andrew repeats it with a bored tone to everyone)
(Aaron, sighs: it is Neil again? Just let him bleed for a few minutes)
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Neil, making bomb with kitchen stuff: If it means losing you then no
Andrew, falling in love: oh
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Bad guy: You have no weapon, blondie!
Allison, with Renee and Dan behind her: Think again, sweetheart
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They made a little “honorary cluster member” badge to Aaron (he does not cry STFU NEIL)
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Dan and Neil both knows by heart the laws of different countries…..for very different reasons.
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Luther: humiliates Nicky once again
Renee: calmly breaks his hand at dinner while smiling like an angel, all the while stopping Andrew from killing him with the other hand
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Neil, a pharmacist: blowing shit up and arson
Aaron, a doctor, watching him: yk what hold my beer I know several ways to stop a man’s heart
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The whole “You don’t know how to use a gun” “No, but you do” with andreil or matt and dan
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Just Drew and Renee kicking some mafia asses together as buddies
(While Neil blows some shit up in the background and Allison/Nicky cheer)
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Matt has the perfect ear too
Him and Kevin are the remote operation/communication team but one day all the fighters/criminals of the cluster are busy so they both start to fight as well and fuck they are good at it
Nicky: I expected this from Biceps Matt but Kevin??? You can land a kick like that???
Kevin, outraged: I WENT TO THE EXY OLYMPICS WHEN I WAS 16
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Speaking of Kevin, they all call him “nerd” or “einstein”
Allison: so the nerd can fight uh
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Aaron, counting down on his fingers: so you have F1 Pilot Superstar Allison Reynolds, former gold medalist and tech genius Kevin Day, a human diapason, a multilingual arsonist, World no.1 Taekwondo Champion Renee Walker, a cop, an actor…..what are you there for??
Andrew, literally a mafia king:....ice cream and crime?
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Neil to Andrew, after the whole debacle with his father is out: You did know there were mafia out of Germany too, right?
Andrew: I can’t even have that for myself fuck this family
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Dan, every time before each “mission”: okay guys I know we need to do it but I’d like to remind ALL of you *looks pointly at Neil and Andrew* it’s STILL illegal and morally dubious
Neil: …….like I said to Nicky, irrelevant *without missing a beat blows up the entire building and puts on stolen Gucci shades*
Alternative:
Neil: ok saint theresa why were you the one to suggest we explode Riko’s brain off then
Dan: ...don’t turn the conversation around me it’s about you
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Allison “guess we’re detourning a place next” Reynolds and Kevin “It’s not that hard to pilot” Day
(Kevin: But why are you on a plane to Russia? I thought you were in India last time?
Neil:....don’t ask)
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Aaron to Andrew, where they are trapped and betrayed: your boyfriend wouldn’t happen to know how to poison a whole room with gaz?
Neil: I was born for this moment
(Andrew: just bc you’re my brother doesn’t mean you have the right to dirty talk my boyfriend)
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Andrew: be gay, do crime and eat ice cream
Nicky: AND BLOW NEIL’S D-
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(before they know abt Neil’s past, when Andrew is angsty bc he caught feelings)
Andrew: You  shouldn’t get close to me, it’s dangerous, i’m mafia
Neil: oh haven’t you heard-
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Jeremy, bouncing out of nowhere: Hey Kev ! Love how you BI-nary code ahah have you heard of the ARCHIPELAGO 
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Neil, sipping tea: so my father is the Butcher
Matt:  okokokok coolcoolcoolcool yk what arson doesn’t sound like a bad idea after all
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(this one is not funny sorry) but Neil taking over each time someone is hurt bc he is used to deal with it
“Give the pain to me”
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Andrew and Aaron like to fuck around a lot with the whole sensate stuff (since only one of them is a sensate)
Bad guy: only one of you is a sensate, which one is it?
Twinyard, in a perfect and flat tone: try to guess
A bad guy is spying on Andrew and waiting to kill him in Germany, via a cam, thinking he’s safe BUT SUPRISE MOTHERFUCKER it was aaron dressed as Andrew in a mafia meeting and now you have to deal with a 5 feet tall mafia boy
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For real tho they are a little protective of the normal doctor who heal them every time (yes even Neil but don’t tell him) so you bet something like that happens one day:
Aaron: comes home from work angry
Andrew, cleaning up blood or counting money: whassup shithead?
Aaron: There’s this older doctor he’s great and all but he’s a fuckin asshole to me he belittles me everyday bc i’m young and we lost a patient today bc he rathers humiliate me than let me save him 
Andrew, a dangerous glint in his eyes and a whole cluster behind him: oh?
Kevin, opens his computer and digs up dirt on him: give me a sec
Allison: I can roll over him with my truck
Neil: there is so many ways to mix two meds and kills him ON ACCIDENT
Dan: let’s see how he deals in prison
Nicky: oh this is going to be fun
Kevin, reciting facts like he’s reading a grocery list: so yeah he smuggles meds from the hospital so local drug dealers, illegally sells meds for himself on the black market, does tax evasion, is friend with a local senator and both of them are involved with minors….i have already several reservation at X hotel btw and cases of work harassment on nurses and interns, threats to others older doctors in serve, and OH. OH. We have a spanking kink on our hands too.
Every members of the cluster, turning to Nicky and Neil:....go wild
Nicky, giggling: not that’s it’s a shame when it’s consensual but not here so - let’s start with the spanking :D
Neil: Can I make him cry
No violence is used but the doctor is found on the floor drowning in his own tears after a few minutes and after an hour he’s resigned and leaving the country
Andrew was dressed as Aaron for that (that being: smuggling Neil and Nicky into the hospital to meet the doctor through him)  and sends him a selfie of a 5 feet surgeon and the man crying on the floor 
It’s their best memory as a family (Aaron hates Neil a little less after that)
Neil to Nicky: why did you stop me from pushing towards suicide??? He’s gonna do that in another country
(Kevin: no if I can help it)
Nicky: bc we don’t do that to people!
Neil, Andrew, Aaron, Allison:...........right
Neil: killing even indirectly is no good but destroying their life and humiliating them publically is good?
Nicky: YES!
Matt and Dan: WAIT NO
(Allison: don’t brother Neil you’ll just hurt your head)
(Neil, close to tears: but...but...but arson?? Andrew, with knives out: alright fuckers who broke his heart?)
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Matt and Dan bc they’re fuckin weak to Neil: ITS OK BUDDY ARSON IS GOOD
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I have to end on this note:
Storyline wise, Neil would have make the perfect Wolfgang too….if Wolfgang was a twink.
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thebcwens · 4 years ago
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『 avan jogia. thirty. cis man. he/him. 』 oh heavens, is that JASPER BOWENS from MAIN STREET i see roaming around mapleview? minnie may’s always calling them -SELF-DESTRUCTIVE & -IRRESPONSIBLE. i happen to think they’re not that bad! they’re a pretty cool OWNER of STRINGS & THINGS MUSIC SHOP and every time i’ve seen them, they’ve always been +SPONTANEOUS & +CARING. i hope i see them around again!
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drugs tw, addiction tw, miscarriage tw, death tw ! @mapleviewstarters​
NAME : vincent jasper desai-bowens NICKNAME : jasp, vinnie (family and older mapleview residents only) SEXUALITY : pansexual RELATIONSHIP STATUS : in a relationship with paxton ZODIAC SIGN : aquarius PARENTS : james bowens and priya desai-bowens SIBLINGS : amir bowens (40), eva bowens-walker (40) RESIDENCY : a quaint and comfortable apartment near the music shop OCCUPATION : owner and manager of strings & things CHARACTER INSPO : ulysses zane (apocalypse now), klaus hargreeves (the umbrella academy), lito rodriguez (sense8), liam (high fidelity), frank n’ furter (the rocky horror picture show), laird mayhew (why him?).
CHILDHOOD
vincent jasper desai-bowens was born and raised in mapleview to an irish dad and an indian mother. james and priya bowens moved to mapleview in 1979, not long after they got married. james soon found himself a job at the factory and they decided to build their family in the small town.
the couple welcomed their twins not too long after, the golden boy and the wonderful girl were both named after priya’s late parents -- amir and eva. that’s when the bowens’ started to settle down and james made the bold decision to make money from his passion for music, quitting his job at the factory and buying the music store in town.
but then nearly ten years later, priya got pregnant with their third child. it was a risky pregnancy, since she was almost in her forties. they welcomed a strong and healthy baby -- who was named after james’ father and personal hero, a brave man that fought in the war. they were living the dream. that was, until vincent grew up.
being the youngest of three was hard. especially when your parents' had great expectations for you and your siblings’ were fucking geniuses and you were just, well, you. vincent was never the brightest kid or even interested in anything. he was the kid who’d bite others for no reason, yell at the teachers and break toys. he was the worst possible kid a parent could want but once his teenage years rolled in, the bowens’ knew he was never going to change.
TEENAGEHOOD
by the time vincent got to high school, he started to finally make friends for the first time. that’s when he met adrien and tba, who later on became his best and only friends. the teenage version of vincent wasn’t much different from the kid version, only this time the rebellious acts were in different ways -- vincent stopped attending church, would spend more time in detention than in class and would even pick fights for the hell of it. but what was the last straw for his father was when the rumors of vincent using drugs started to run around town. of course, it wasn’t like he was doing hard drugs or anything, but the bowens were a respectable family in mapleview.
to say james was furious was an understatement. and during their last fight, he told vincent he didn’t deserve the name he got and he was a lost cause. that’s when he dropped the name and started going by jasper. that was also the night he ran from home. only sixteen, with nowhere to go and no money to his name. he never talked to his dad again after that.
his sister eva, not wanting him to turn into a homeless person, took him in. but it still hasn’t enough. jasper started getting into a darker path and eventually into heavy drugs. around that time, jasper and his friends found a man that was almost dead. they saved his life but it always stuck with him. he watched as his friends were moved by the act, but he felt nothing. the only desire he had was to deepen himself in drugs. it didn’t take long for jasper to drop out of school and get kicked out of his sister’s house. he then became known as mapleview’s junkie and the bowens’ black sheep -- if he wasn’t already.
ADULTHOOD & NOW
because of his addiction, jasper pretty much pushed out every single friend he ever had from his life, refusing to drag them into his mess. when he turned twenty-one, he was in and out of rehab like it was a hobby. but during one stay, he met someone. and that someone gave him hope.
jasper was in love with her and he actually saw himself having a future for the first time. the boy even got a job so they could shack up together. after a year of being together, they found out she was pregnant. but the dream didn’t last long, she had a spontaneous miscarriage and that’s when things went downhill again.
feeling guilty about what happened to her and thinking that somehow it was his fault, jasper left her and fled to los angeles. he doesn’t talk much about what his life was like there.
about two years ago, jasper’s mom reached out to him with news that his father had passed. she told him about the plan his older siblings had of selling the music store since they had no interest in it, obviously too busy with their own lives to care, and asked that he’d come home to take over the business. he’s been the owner since.
his return to mapleview was a shock to everyone who hadn’t seen or heard from him in years, most of which just assumed he had died or something. and to be honest, if it wasn’t for his mom, he’d never step foot in town again. the amount of trauma that jasper went through would be enough to break anyone, but he’s managing. well, not really. but he’s trying.
RANDOM FACTS
only is ok with getting called “vincent” by his family and older mapleview residents. he will hit a bitch if he gets called that.
since he’s living near his mama, he’s trying to get on his best behavior. he’s just happy to be with her and be able to take care of her.
always shaking like a fucking chihuahua because of his addiction.
he hates his siblings. if he had the strength, he’d roundhouse kick the shit out of his brother
luckily for him, he doesn’t have to deal with them since they moved away from mapleview a while ago. they also barely talk and he doesn’t even know if he has nephews or not. Sad
sometimes he forgets he’s the boss ( oi leo from that 70s show! ) and forgets to pay his employees
if he says he’ll be “taking care of stuff” in his office, you bet he’ll be napping there pls come back from 2 to 4 hours thanks
he can speak three languages: english, hindi and gujarati
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mermaidsirennikita · 4 years ago
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HIT MEEEEEEEEE WITH YOUR TOP 10 GAY OTPS
WELLL OOOOOOH WELLLL you know I have no brainspace so I’m listing those that are hitting me right NOW
EDIT: I also realize now that I totally read that as LGBT+ versus gay, so I included two ships here that feature trans people in relationships with people of the opposite gender, my bad!  But I’m editing on two more ships as we speak.
in no particular order lol
--Lito and Hernando in Sense8 (like to be FRANK this is probably #1 because I love that we saw them going thru so much; like actual legitimate relationship struggles that often stemmed from Lito’s issues; but then also dirty bathroom sex; and then 3way with Dani was just like this overflow of love and throuple confirmation lol)
--Nomi and Amanita (another STAAAAAND out for me, I absolutely love them, they were like the steady calm thru the storm couple but with such intense passion for one another)
--Miel and Sam from When The Moon Was Ours by Anna-Marie McLemore.  You probably don’t know this one because it’s a YA magical realism novel, but!  It’s!  One of my favorite!  Romantic arcs!  EVER!  So Miel is a Latina teenager and Sam is her best friend who happens to be a young trans man and the book basically kicks off with them having sex and kind of having to deal with that, plus some magical realism shit based on La Llorona and the fact that there are family things going on and other girls who want Sam (and this is never treated as like.  odd or unusual, Sam is just wanted like any hot teenage boy would be wanted by teenage girls) and it’s ACHINGLY beautiful.  I cried when I read this book.  Also McLemore is just a super great writer and most of her books either deal with Latinx characters and magical realism and LGBT+ issues or both, as she’s a queer Latinx woman irl and her husband is a trans man.  So you can sense the personal nature of this book and it just is BEAUTIFUL.
--Simon and Bram from Love, Simon.  My heart grew 3 sizes when we watched that movie, ugh.
--Callie and Arizona from Grey’s Anatomy.  And I know, TOXIC SHIT HAPPENED but this is such a classic epic TV romance for me.  I grew up on Grey’s and watching Callie discover her bisexuality was like this momentous thing on tv, and then even though she and Arizona had some serious.... bumps... along the road the idea they’re offscreen chilling with their bb Sofia and hopefully at least one new baby is lovely to me.
--Sissy and Vanya from The Umbrella Academy.  Like!!!!!!!!!!  Vanya’s s1 romance was soooo flat and I wanted more from her and then it turns out that she’s getting her Carol from the film Carol on at a FARM?  And the subtext of Vanya giving Sissy’s son her powers, which in a sense makes him Vanya’s superpowered son, so Harlan is Sissy and Vanya’s son, no matter what he literally has two moms, and their final scene had me crying actual tears.
--Agron and Nasir from Spartacus.  I know you haven’t seen this but like, the degree to which I was owned by these two, lol.  But the thing is that in a sense they were almost like?  A couple I didn’t worry about?  Because even though both were warriors and there was one time when someone was trying to COME UP ON AGRON’S MAN and they could die at any moment, they were so like?  Committed?  The most married of Spartacus couples?  Also had v. good sex scenes.
--Lucretia and Ilithyia, also Spartacus and I SOMEWHAT HESITATE TO INCLUDE THEM lol because they never have like.... sex onscreen.  But Lucretia is canonically bisexual and Ilithyia is pretty heavily implied to be into her (like... kisses her on the mouth all the time... professes her love all the time... tbh MOST of the characters on this show are implied to be pansexual).  So they’re like, fully evil characters who never have a pure love for each other, at all, but are obsessed with one another, and have this clearly fatal attraction wherein they both want to kill each other and can’t get enough of each other?  And I’ll own that the person Lucretia loves most is very obviously her husband but that only increases this idea that Ilithyia wants MORE of her?  But then when Lucretia is loyal to Ilithyia she wants to kill her?  They are my toxic wlw ship lol, basically the opposite of Agron and Nasir.
--Angel and Lil Papi from Pose.  Left field lol but due to quarantine, I watch Pose now, and these two snuck up on me???  Like I won’t say that they are like, great influences on each other but rn I’m very into them bc it’s some real authentic YOUNG LOVE shit.  For context Angel is a transgender model and he’s a bi hustler who’s taken in by the same house mother, and so they’re kinda just friends at first but he clear ADOOOOOORES her and slowly she falls in love with him too and they get hooked on drugs together but also he wants the best for her I sweeeear, the show has things I could take or leave but these twoooo.
--Jamie and Lord John, Outlander.  You never said this had to be totally canon but I’m trying to make everything at least one-sided canon or EXTREMELY heavily implied, and John is madly in love with Jamie, so.  I need them to fuck.  I need them to fuck so bad, with or without Claire, this could be the greatest like the levy broke for one night plot arc ever, like I honestly can interpret John as being totally in love with Jamie and Jamie having room in his heart for John even if it’s not like a consistent thing, I WANT IT.
--Darla and Drusilla, Buffyverse.  I’VE ALWAYS LOVED THIS.  Like we know it’s not this consistent relationship and the incestuous dynamic there is like, uh, a lot, but sometimes evil girls have to have fun, and as seen above I do love some evil girl content.
--Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune, Sailor Moon.  Lol this is a classic, I have loved them since I was 12 and now my 13 year old sibling loves them and models their overall sense of style after Uranus, I love it.
Is that 10?  Lol that’s where I’ll cut myself off for NOW, I know I’m missing shit we’ve probably discussed lol
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colorofmymindposts · 5 years ago
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This took forever to answer since college has been really demanding the last few weeks of this semester. But I was tagged by the amazing @jeffreycombs, thank you! 
rules: pick 5 shows, then answer the following questions! don’t look at them, and don’t cheat. then tag some people.
Doctor Who 
Schitt’s Creek
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes 
Sense8
M*A*S*H
who is your favorite character in 2? — A lot of the characters are near and dear to me but probably Stevie Budd <3
who is your least favorite character in 1? — This is gonna get me So much hate, but I did not agree with how Rose’s character was handled from series 2 and on. Also, I watched series 11 and unfortunately Chibs’ writing made it impossible for me to like 13, and how he handled the Master literally made me ragequit the show.
what is your favorite episode of 4? —  Season 2 Episode 7 "I Have No Room in My Heart For Hate". Between Lito’s and Sun’s stories in that episode, it’s one of the best the show ever did.
what is your favorite season of 5? — Season 4! That’s the first season I actually started with.
who is your favorite couple in 3? — Sherlock Holmes/John Watson 
what is your favorite episode of 1? — Because it’s Doctor Who, my favorite two-parter is World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls, but my favorite single episode is The Doctor’s Wife.
what is your favorite episode of 5? — Season 1 Episode 15 “Tuttle”, it’s a classic
what is your favorite season of 2? —  Hmm it’s a close call but season 5
how long have you watched 1? — 8 years 👀
how did you become interested in 3? — I started reading Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes short stories when I was 8 years old, then I became obsessed with Holmesian lore after the Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law came out. I’ve watched most versions of Holmes and Watson ever since. Granada Holmes/The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes might just be my favorite version though
who is your favorite actor in 4? — Freema Agyeman (I’ve loved her ever since DW)
which do you prefer: 1, 2, or 5? — There’s no aspect of M*A*S*H that I extremely dislike so I’m gonna pick that one. 
which show have you seen more episodes of: 1 or 3? — I definitely have seen more of Doctor Who at this point. 
if you could be anyone from 4, who would it be? — Probably Nomi Marks? She’s awesome with technology and sadly I’m not; plus she’s the activist I strive to be someday. Also having Amanita as a loving gf/wife?? Sign me the fuck up 
would a crossover between 3 and 4 work? — There’s a lot of murder in both, but, setting aside the issue that they’re set in completely different time periods, I honestly don’t think Holmes or Watson could handle the intensity of the Cluster or their problems lmao
pair two characters in 1 who would make an unlikely but strangely okay couple?  — I know the point of the Tenth Doctor and Donna is that they’re just best friends and m/f friendships Are So Important to represent don’t get me wrong but they’re basically Beatrice and Benedick from Much Ado About Nothing and they should’ve gotten married  
overall, which show has the best storyline: 3 or 5? — asjlkf these are literally the two shows on this list that were created before overarching storylines were really a thing in television, but, out of the two, M*A*S*H actually has their characters go through really meaningful arcs. I love The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes but part of its appeal is that it’s so cozy and never changes
which has better theme music: 2 or 4? — Schitt’s Creek doesn’t really have a soundtrack so I guess Sense8 wins by default?? Sense8 does have a really pretty soundtrack, I listen to it on the regular 
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I’m tagging @barkingfortheocean @raywritesthings @treeonfire @stargirl-and-potts @this-geek @queenof-evil-blogging and anyone else who wants to do this! 
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heartisbrave · 5 years ago
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8 people i’d like to know better
I was tagged by @burger-louise (thanks! I love doing these!)
name / alias. my name is ruby (+ my pronouns are she/her/they/them)
birthday. may 28th
zodiac sign. gemini (pls don't hate me for this lmao)
height. 5'5" (165 cm)
hobbies: reading, journaling, and does watching tv count as a hobby? Lol I go to school full time and have 8 hours of reading a night so I don't have a lot of hobbies anymore 🤷‍♀️
favorite colors. purple, blue, and pink have been my favorite colors ever since I was little (manifesting my bisexuality mayhaps?) 💖 💜💙
favorite books. i've been obsessed with marisha pessl lately so night film and special topics in calamity physics have been my faves as of late. I'm also currently in love with the diviners series by libba Bray.
last song listened to. Hush by deep purple
last film watched. baby driver
inspiration for muse.  honestly I'm inspired by other stories and art. If I really like an element of a story or character, or an aesthetic I daydream about it for days and work it into my own story. I'm also inspired by people, I love little quirks people can have that can define them. One trait I really admire right now is humor. To me, if a story doesn't have humor it's not worth anything. I'm kind of sick of gratuitous negativity in media and I think people are naturally inclined to find humor in even the darkest of times and I think that's beautiful.
dream job. I've never really admitted this before, but I would have loved to do something in show business. I love the art of storytelling so I would have loved to be an actor, director, writer, anything. I fantasize about it a lot but I'm definitely not cut out for that business. Right now I'm in school for psychology and sociology, but I love anything academic. If I could go to school for free I'd be learning languages, musical instruments, anthropology, politics, film, art, literature, everything
meaning behind your url. so basically I've had this account since I was like 12 and still watching shows like doctor who, merlin, supernatural and all that stuff. It's just a phonetic spelling of the silly way I like to say doctor who. I have since moved from those fandoms on but my url hasn't because when I asked my followers if I should change it one of them said no and they loved it. And I just can't disappoint my fans💅
top three ships. i LOVE casserole (cassie/cole) from 12 monkeys (the tv show). That show was so good which is rare for a show that revolves around a couple, but their love story is so epic that it actually works SO beautifully. I also adore nomanita (nomi/amanita) and herlito (hernando/lito) from sense8. The love stories on that show are breathtakingly beautiful especially these two.
lipstick or chapstick. chapstick
currently reading. The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón. It's an english translation but amazing prose all the same. I love this author even though I've only read his translated books, it makes me wonder how talented he is in spanish. This book is also part of an incredible series called the Cemetery of Forgotten Books
I will tag @fraddit @dramatic-bitch @jabberbabywocky @takethe-angel-andrun @minyard-josten @pantsaremandatory @tardisbewitched @mykeywithawhy
Hope you guys like tag games, but you dont have to do it if you don't want to. Have fun!
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theoworthington · 6 years ago
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.・:*:・゚’ (twenty year old cis male theodore worthington) was made in (the upper east side) and attended (st. jude’s). he still resides in new york, and are currently (majoring in video game design in parsons). they are colorful sketchbooks, piles of sci-fi novels on the floor, tokyo nightlife and an 80's arcade. onlookers say they resemble aron piper. 
*shangela’s voice* HALLELOO EVERYONE! this is my third baby, oh my god. here’s my attempt at an intro post, which is basically just a bunch of bullet points thrown together. we’re needy so please LOVE US.
tw: death, bit of homophobia, just in case.
he is the youngest of the worthington children. dakota is his older sibling. so, you know the drill, his family comes from old money and they can be very traditional. most of the time, this doesn’t bother theo, as he’s learned to just go with the wave than to go against it like his sibling kota.
as the youngest, he is well aware that he won’t be the heir to their company. but it still gives him a comfort zone to explore his interests, like creating video games, which is ultimately what he wants to do. and his father is okay with it, since his expectations on him were never as high as with his oldest brother and heir to the company.
he was very affected by his mom’s dead. even though it was a long process, it was still very painful for the whole family. theo was sixteen when she passed away. she was the only one that knew about his sexual preferences, since she helped him come to terms with it a few months before she died. and he loves it and fully accepts himself. he just chooses to keep it a secret because he knows the worthingtons won’t be too happy about it.
so yeah, it’s 20gayteen and all but he still goes out of his way to keep it a secret. why? because after seeing the way his father rejected kota little by little, he realized he was going to be next. so he uses his nerdy geeky persona to hide. he knows he won’t be able to live with his father’s rejection so this is for the best.
ohhhh and he knew he was gay when he watched star wars for the first time and fell in love with both luke skywalker and han solo. he spent the first trilogy expecting them to kiss and was deeply disappointed when they didn’t.
so yeah, he’s your local geek, nerdy bitch. BIG STAR WARS FAN. MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YA’LL. 
some wanted connections:
EVERYTHING !!!
maybe some secret relationship? something very omander, for my elite fam out there.
and maybe the daniela to his lito, for my sense8 fam out there.
having his first love around would also be sweet pretty pls. i’d love it if it can be similar to isak and even/niccolo and martino from skam but with LOTS OF ANGST ‘cause they’re not on good terms
bitch makes good use of grindr and tinder so a bunch of hook ups and fwbs pretty please.
the guzman to his ander or the jonas to my isak, which basically means a straight male friend who knows that he gay and is super understanding and protective of him
a close group of friends from like forever that he has yet to come out to.
maybe one or two girls that he’s made out with or maybe dated for a little while to keep up the “straight boy” façade
all sorts of friends that he can be soft around
some enemies ‘cause why not?
actual partner in crime - cynthia
the exboyfriend - emery
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realmythology · 6 years ago
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okay, so something i’ve been seeing a lot is people acting as though it’s somehow bad or bigoted to dislike the kalagang ending just because it’s ending in a threesome. and i’m sorry, but... wow.
people should maybe be careful not to imply that just because something is not a boring ol’ straight relationship, it’s somehow ignorant to dislike it. sometimes things are just badly written. 
a huge chunk of the sense8 fandom is in the lgbt+ community, and i’d guess it’s pretty much impossible to watch and enjoy the show without at least being an ally. so the implication that it’s ignorant to dislike a polyship that kind of came out of nowhere and was very poorly written (specifically for shock value/to make a statement, which lana has directly stated) just because it’s poly is very short-sighted. we have other polyships in the show that are well-loved and well-received by fans, and pretty much every kalagang fan upset by the special has said that it’s not because it’s poly. it’s because the finale took the couple in a completely different direction than how it had been written for two seasons.
why are we complaining? because a lot of us feel that the finale destroyed kala’s whole character arc to look more “woke” than her just choosing to be with the man she was in love with would have been. because kala’s very compelling narrative of feeling pressed between passion and duty was one that resonated with a lot of women, and it ended in an illogical and impractical way that most of us could never emulate. because she didn’t explain to rajan that she had been unfaithful to him repeatedly in their marriage. because rajan didn’t get to hear the whole truth, nor did he react to it the way any sensible human hearing their spouse is having an affair would have reacted. because kala didn’t suffer the consequences of her infidelity, or any other consequences she had been gearing herself up to face after making herself marry rajan. because the crippling indecision between duty and love that had been a huge point of stress and unhappiness for both her and wolfgang for years was brushed off as a joke repeatedly (“have you talked to either of them?” “*drinks*”). because this was never a love triangle.
why are we not complaining? because we hate poly ships. because we don’t. a lot of us actively stan ot3s. 
i can’t speak for others, but i really do love rajan and always have, and i’ve felt bad for him all throughout sense8 because the show went to lengths to point out that kala doesn’t love him. but just because i love him doesn’t mean i think that all the developments of the past two seasons can be ignored because he “deserves” a happy ending (which he does). i love dani even more, and still think it was very tasteless to include her having sex with lito and hernando in the end of the episode despite lito’s thousand declarations of being exclusively gay.
tl;dr acting like you’re smarter than others for liking a polyship just because it’s a polyship doesn’t actually make you seem smarter or more more open-minded than the people who were disappointed by the sense8 finale. it just makes you sound pretentious. obviously this doesn’t apply to anyone who enjoyed the polyship but hasn’t gotten up on a high horse about it. people like what they like, and we can like what we like without being dicks about it.
(note that most of the rajalagang hate is specifically in the kalagang tag. if you wanna talk about how much you love rajalagang, maybe don’t do it in the otp tag and then get surprised when people disagree with you.)
anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk, i guess i just wanted to say... you don’t have to force yourself to like something just because you’re told it’s something you should like or you’ll be a bad person. that’s all. <3
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holden-norgorov · 6 years ago
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A seriously angry recap of all the things I hated in the finale.
Because I had to write down all the disappointment and outrage that I have inside, otherwise it will consume me until I die. I had to give vent to everything that disgusted me in a less-detatched, more personal way than the unemotional one my objective thoughts usually are expressed with. If you want to read highly pissed-off complaints for healing purposes, this is your post. 
Implying that discovering that your mother is also your step-sister is a more validating reason to commit murder than being yourself a victim of physical and psychological abuses for years during your childhood. Offensive, short-sighted, self-erasing. By suggesting that Wolfgang killed his father and uncle out of this revelation, the writers nullified the character’s self-worth, depth and integrity.
“I’m not worth it”. “Wolfgang, you are!” It turned out he wasn’t worth it at all because things didn’t change. Nobody had any kind of conversation and the result was that Kala was portrayed as happy staying in the loveless, unhealthy marriage she was already in and that Wolfgang kept being the “lover” who wasn’t worth being chosen. Rajan became suddenly so important that an entire two-seasonal storyline of the most epic love story of all time had to be thrown out of the window just to please him? Who the fuck cared about him? He was selfish and sexist for two seasons, and a lame, uninteresting character with no personality beyond being a kiss-ass.
Capheus being a clown for all the episode irritated the fuck out of me. He had always been particularly joyful, but 1) not at this ridiculous, over-the-top level, and especially 2) not under these circumstances. This is war. They are all risking their lives and could be found and killed in any seconds. He is risking his whole political career and has left all his loved ones home alone. One of his clustermates is imprisoned in a BPO facility and likely being tortured. This is possibly the worst you could get: this episode was not meant to feature lighthearted, careless people joking around and being idiotic. His behavior is completely inappropriate and disrespectful of the situation. Someone with a brain, in those circumstances, would have slapped him in the face. What the fuck.
Nomanita getting an entire scene exclusively used to provide a last-minute backstory capable of justifying Lana’s selfish decision of taking Paris from Kalagang and giving it to them out of nowhere and with no apparent reason. I am so mad about this, it almost seems deliberate from Lana. Paris was a turning point for Kalagang, a pivotal moment that represented their first and only chance in all the show to be finally happy and together. Nomanita already had it all. Nomanita have always been the healthiest, happiest couple. They could have married literally anywhere else and it would have changed nothing in their relationship, because they had already had 24 episodes of domestic and happy moments. Why Paris of all cities? This was an intentional betrayal to Kalagang fans and storyline.
Lito’s freak-out about the carbs is beyond any fucking comment. It vividly looks like they all are on camping, or taking a funny, enjoyable trip. The writers should be ashamed of themselves for cheapening such a beautiful show and such wonderful characters with stupid moments like this and so many others (such as: Nomi’s coffee moment, Wolfgang jokingly pointing the rocket launcher on Capheus, Rajan asking Kala to teach him to use a gun as if they were not in a dangerous, life-or-death situation but just having fun, Puck with Sun’s hair and so on: there are a lot).
Sun and Mun being OOC as fuck and acting as if they were old acquaintances was just ridiculous and forced to an exponential level. This is entirely the writers’ fault and has nothing to do with time constraints, because the writing was just cheap and the characters unrecognizable. They had only met twice before this phone call (and both times by mistake). Sun here was weirdly intimate and emotively open despite having been closed and guarded of her interiority for two seasons sometimes even with her other selves. Mun was the very definition of cringe. “I think those two words might have made getting shot worth it.” Give me a fucking break. Who are these people? And don’t even get me started on the inconsistency with the line “I am not very good with words” that goes directly against the very reason why Sun was interested in him in the first place (i.e. the passionate way he talked about her to her teacher and the cautious but accurate analysis he provided of her psychology while fighting in the graveyard). Here they were odd and extremely cliché to the point of contrasting with their very essence.
Capheus greeting Rajan in that way was so wrong and insulting both to attentive viewers and to all the people in this world unable to obtain proper medications for themselves or their loved ones. It disregarded and destroyed everything about Capheus’ character and almost made me vomit. Rajan embodied all the socially powerful people directly responsible for Shiro’s improved sickness that almost caused her death in S1. Rajan’s unethical business was the very reason why Capheus had to be involved with Silas Kabaka in the first place, resulting in all his S1 storyline that almost led him to his death. Do any of you remember Capheus and Kala’s expressions when Rajan revealed this? Both of them had never been so hurt and incredulous during all the show. Capheus’ blind forgiveness of someone who was the ultimate reason of one entire season of his suffering and fighting for survival left me utterly speechless and offended. The writers turned all of this into a joke, especially considering Capheus storyline in S2: he had decided to politically represent his country, his own people, exactly because of the injustices they had to face on a daily basis because of poverty and unfair hierarchy. Welcoming Rajan, the symbol of this hierarchy that basically made his whole life a living hell, in that way was incredibly unbelievable. I was seriously shocked by this.
Kala’s behavior when Rajan arrives in Paris can be explained only in two ways: a) either she was on drugs all the time, which means she was capable of making them using her knowledge as chemist and then taking them because she was so desperate for Wolfgang that she wanted to be high, or b) she was just under a love spell. These are the only explanations to the way she behaves here; in both cases, she clearly wasn’t herself. Logic, continuity and coherence were all non-existent. The facts: Kala had made promises to Wolfgang both in 2x10 and 2x11 and the only reason why she hadn’t explained things to Rajan yet was that he had shut her off and sent her away without giving her the opportunity to do so. But her mind was crystal-clear and she was finally ready (in fact, her entire storyline had been built in order to make her brave enough to finally make this decision). But in here, she betrayed every promise she had made to Wolfgang and basically became a lying coward, erasing all the character development she had been through. She acted as a bitch. This confrontation was unavoidable at this point. She let Rajan believe that the real problem in their marriage was her nature as a sensate, which actually has never been a source of conflict at all (she didn’t want to marry Rajan even before realizing what she was). I wanted to slap her for how she acted in this whole episode. She also really felt under a love spell because for 23 episodes she had never spontaneously kissed Rajan before out of sincere will. In 1x02, Rajan kissed her and she didn’t even return the kiss (the only reason why she didn’t break it was that they were at their engagement party and it would have been highly inappropriate); in 2x01 she kissed him out of pity and guilt because she felt responsible for breaking his dick and ruining their honeymoon. And that was it. So, witnessing her starting a kiss to a man she spent two seasons being uncomfortable with (especially physically) and feeling objectified by felt really wrong and unexpected and utterly unreasonable. She seriously looked like she was on drugs, I was in disbelief.
Aunt Kirsty overtaking a whole team of BPO soldiers supposedly using her unknown superpower ninja abilities was so ridiculous and cheap that it was like the writers themselves wanted to prove us that they could do everything they wanted and ruin all the show’s credibility as they pleased. Seriously what the fuck was that. Sense8 became a cartoon for kids and we didn’t know? God.
The complete lack of Wolfgang’s PTSD was absolutely unforgivable and unrealistic. We are talking about a man who spent all of his life building several walls to protect himself from the outside, trying to keep everyone at distance exactly because of the traumas he experienced since childhood that he couldn’t recover from. He has always been emotionally secretive and unavailable to everyone except Kala (and she took two seasons of serious efforts to make him finally open up and expose himself). He was tortured daily several times when he was under BPO’s captivity: he had and needed to show both physical and psychological scars in the aftermath. PTSD was a natural response that inevitably had to happen and be shown both for credibility and for a matter of character’s coherence and integrity. Wolfgang being rescued from this severely traumatizing condition and not showing the slightest consequence of it was beyond idiotic. And worse: from that moment he actually started acting more carefree and behaving in the exact opposite way than the one that should logically be expected from someone with his personality going through an experience like that. He started joking around and taking everything lightly and in a more emotionally invested way than he had ever done even before this imprisonment. It was like watching a fairy tale of stupid bullshit. What a fucking mess.
Rajan’s evident privileged treatment from the writers was so obvious and cheap that it ended up being nausea-inducing. He was literally everywhere and for no reason at all since he had no abilities. In the club, he is the only sapiens being close to the physical exchange. Why on this planet should this be safe or acceptable or even convenient since he is incapable of doing anything? Every other non-sensate was far away, even members of the Cluster such as Lito who could have been useful through sharing. Instead Rajan was on the front. Ok. And the idea that Wolfgang, a taciturn man who spent two seasons being jealous of Rajan, would spontaneously approach him and thank him for doing absolutely nothing is hilarious. Rajan didn’t save Wolfgang. Kala was the one who intervened to prevent Lila from shooting him. Rajan stepped in only to save Kala and was able to steal Lila’s gun just because she was already being attacked. And as soon as that happened, she took the gun back because Rajan obviously didn’t have a clue on what he was doing (which is acceptable, because he just wasn’t suitable for that situation: the mistake was including him there in the first place). Daniela herself had been previously shown to be comfortable in using a gun. Why not exposing her to the physical place of the exchange instead of Rajan? I seriously don’t get it. Which advantage could Rajan provide to the situation? The writers were so transparent. The same can be said with the Napoli’s scene. Rajan is the only sapiens entering the camorra building without any reason or combat skill. WHY. Not only he is untrained and incapable, but he also doesn’t even know the plan (Kala has to explain it to him while already inside and targeted by enemies!). It’s like they did everything in their power to include Rajan everywhere and let him be some kind of saver or hero that he clearly is not. The writing was insulting. Rajan mistakes a taser for a gun but then uses that same taser to save Kala’s life? How stupid do the writers think we are, exactly? Not to mention that Wolfgang being unable to treat Kala’s stomach wound was completely OOC, but then again, Kala and Wolfgang were both RAPED as characters in every way possible in this episode. Wolfgang was able to canonically treat a much worse wound when Felix was almost killed despite being in evident pain. This was all ridiculous. And what about Lila shooting Kala in the stomach? In this very episode she was able to shoot dead five people at a great distance without even trying when stealing Whispers. She was a hired gun, and here Kala was literally in front of her. Nothing in this scene makes the slightest sense, I swear.
The scene where Will asked where Sun was, as if he wasn’t able to mentally connect with her was absurd. And Nomi actually taking five minutes to visit her was just a cheap way for the Sun x Mun exchange to happen and was incoherent. “I found Sun” doesn’t make sense because they are telepathically connected and Nomi shouldn’t need to find her. Cheapness for everyone.
Kala spontaneously kissing Rajan again when she finally has the occasion to physically be with the love of her life after he was tortured and nearly killed is probably the most absurd and embarrassing moment I have ever seen in television. It’s beyond any rational comment at this point. I was about to throw something at my screen. And Wolfgang accepting this despite probably believing that Kala and Rajan had already talked things through was incoherent, unthinkable and hysterical. WHO-ARE-THESE-CHARACTERS. This moment destroyed me more than I can convey with words. It was a betrayal to two seasons of marvelous Kalagang growth and development. I could ramble about how much I hate this moment for pages, but I already wrote a post about it and it would be better for me not to stop too much on this because it literally broke my heart and enraged me more than anything else ever did. Kala and Wolfgang were entirely different characters.
Jonas and the Mother talking like walking encyclopedias contrast so heavily with the cheap writing of the episode that their scenes end up being really laughable and impossible to be taken seriously.
The song sequence was completely useless, pure fanservice garbage that stole real usable time that was very much needed since many storylines were left entirely open without justifications. The “What’s Up” moment in 1x04 became iconic because it conveyed a precise message that was the core of all the show, was a set up for everything that came after and had also the purpose to show the ability of each character to connect all together for the first time. Instead, the song sequence in this episode was obviously insert only because the first one really gained a huge success in the fandom and they simply wanted to reply it for fanservice purposes. But this was entirely pointless and the very definition of a waste of time. The characters felt very much like the actors themselves goofing around, and there were also completely avoidable coherence mistakes (Felix and Rajan on the train) that cheapened the already-compromised credibility of it all. The editing of all the episode was bad, especially in this scene.
Other time gets wasted showing characters eating pizza without a tie to the plot or anything at all. Were the writers deliberately trying to make the worst choices possible? They basically did everything wrong and handled the time horribly.
I already talked about the bullet scene, but Kala being able to visit Wolfgang while unconscious was another cheap mistake. I’m particularly angry because for 23 episodes Sense8 was able to be almost flawless in coherence, but this episode is just a giant mess. This moment is OOC and simply wrong on every aspect, and who wrote it surely must have been a stranger to the show.
The last half-hour of the Special is so weird. It’s like the writers suddenly forgot that the main characters are sensates. Will asking Kala what she wants was another ridiculous moment that was so incoherent with their scene in 2x08 that I seriously considered this to be an intentional way for the writers to let us know that they willingly fucked up with Kalagang. The main peculiarity of their interaction in 2x08 was that Will was able to read Kala’s emotions without asking and state out loud what she was afraid to admit to herself: that she loved someone else. Their interaction in 2x08 was based on clarifying that Kala was not suffering from a feeling indecision but a morality struggle, and that Will exactly knew what she wanted. Their moment in 2x12 disregards everything about it. Will acts like he doesn’t already know what she feels and asks her questions as if he couldn’t read her emotions, and Kala is supposed to show signs of romantic indecisiveness despite her troubles were never feelings-related? In 2x08 Kala couldn’t stop talking haphazardly (as she always does when concerned about something) and here she just silently shrugs? This moment is beyond laughable and goes against everything established before, and the characters are frankly unrecognizable.
It’s unbelievable the idea that two whole seasons of perfect Kalagang development led to a conclusion where Kala holds hands with Rajan and Wolfgang sits behind them as a complete stranger. It feels like a nightmare. I am homicidal about this. They really destroyed them, both as a couple and individual characters.
 Amanita clearly states in 1x07 that she is afraid of and hates fireworks because they symbolize war and are a failure. So why is she perfectly happy here when they are used during her own wedding? It wasn’t that hard not to be OOC. The writers really wanted to discredit the canon in every way, I’m incredulous.
The conclusive physical, actual orgy which includes also non-sensate characters sends a horrible message. First, it goes completely against the symbolical meaning of the previous orgies (which were meant to show the sensates’ ability to share sexual arousal every time someone in the Cluster was having actual sex; it was nothing physical or carnal but purely abstract and metaphorical). Second, it’s highly offensive to asexual people, because sex is conceived here as the highest expression of love and the only way to resolve untouched confrontations (instead of having actual conversations). Third, it provides sexual erasure to Lito (canonically gay), Nomi (canonically lesbian) and Kala (canonically demisexual). Fourth, it goes against the well-praised theme of inclusivity and diversity of the show because everyone at the end turns out to be the same (pansexual), thus erasing every single representation provided in the previous episodes. Fifth, it portrays an unfair and insulting view on how sexuality actually works. The idea of a man — whose entire storyline is built around the fact that he is completely, exclusively gay and couldn’t manage to even fake a relationship with a woman — willing to have sex out of the blue with someone of the opposite sex is gross and actually sick. Sexuality is highly intimate and personal: it’s not about open-mindedness, but about self-comfort. It’s disrespectful to think that a gay man would be okay to get laid with a woman, because he just is by nature not comfortable in that situation. I am a straight guy and I could never picture myself with another man, it would make me unhealthily uncomfortable with myself. This applies to everyone’s very own sexuality. The same can be said for Kala, who here is depicted as a promiscuous woman willing to share her body with the very same man who she couldn’t bring herself to feel comfortable with for two seasons. Kala was a very moral person described as demi-sexual and she could only be comfortable in a sexual scenario with Wolfgang because they are sensates and their level of trust and connection is unparalleled. If Wolfgang and Kala hadn’t been sensates inside each other’s heads and feelings, Kala would have never slept with him: she needed that kind of intimacy and closeness to open up sexually. The Kala who pulls Rajan down and gets almost hungry of being used as a sex object here is not the usual Kala from the first 23 episodes, it’s another character entirely who sends a conservative and sexist unacceptable message.
Wolfgang’s sudden bisexuality is not representation, nor something to be proud of: it’s just an offensive, out-of-nowhere twist created only for shock value. One of the first traits that we understand about him in the show is that in order to avoid opening up emotionally, he constantly sleeps around with women only. This is canonically confirmed in two occasions: first, in 1x04, when he and Felix talk about their teenager adventures, nothing is mentioned about them being open to relationships with other boys (and if Wolfgang had been bisexual, it would have surely been pointed out in this moment); second, in 2x01, we canonically see him picking up girls using a date-app which features women only. This highly indicates that he is not into men, because if he was, he wouldn’t hide it at all. Also, if he had really been sexually attracted to men, he would have surely fallen for Felix because of how close they are, and this didn’t happen. This is not to say that sexuality is permanent or unaffected by change. But if Wolfgang’s character arc had really been about a sexuality struggle, an appropriate path of self-discovery should have been shown and developed carefully. People just don’t wake up and decide to change sexual orientation out of the blue. These things require internal process and self-questioning. This sudden twist is a joke to people who really have to face a complex self-examination in order to understand whether their sexuality is changing or evolving.  
Wolfgang touching Rajan’s lips before kissing him is a slap on the face of Kalagang’s fans because that was THEIR intimate gesture, and theirs alone. 
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Wolfgang and Rajan barely know each other. Wolfgang would NEVER perform that private gesture with anyone but Kala, and the idea that he would make love to her with her husband included is pure nuts. This was the ultimate bullshit from the writers who managed to annihilate everything about Kalagang. It’s almost as if Lana had personal reasons to sabotage them in every way possible, because the result is just too heavy-handed and transparent not to be intentional. I seriously hope that she didn’t feel the need to ruin them just because they are a straight couple, because that would make her discriminatory and petty as fuck. This moment was seriously unwatchable and unbearable. I don’t have the proper words to describe the utter disgust I really experienced.  
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thegreatgayescape · 6 years ago
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Sense8: Psychic Trans Bisexual Polyamoury by The Wachowski Sisters
I would have loved to be in the boardroom meeting when the Wachowski Sisters pitched Sense8 to Netflix. I can only imagine it in DnD terms. 
“The party is made up out of eight different people from around the world who all start face-timing, then fucking, then dating, via psychic link. There are eight different simultaneous settings, eight mini-bosses that they must defeat simultaneously, and one final boss that they cannot win against. 
We have Nomi, who is Neo from the Matrix, post-transition, in a modern AU. 
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We have Sun, who is the champion of her company, her family and underground kickboxing. Also, she has a Jindo. 
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Riley is a quintessential Pisces, or she would be the eight weren’t all Leos. 
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Kala is in a rom-com. She wants to be in love with her perfect, Indian, type A, boss-fiance, but instead, Ganesh brings her a Guy Richie extra, who she loves. 
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That’s Wolfgang.
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Lito is the bard. He’s an actor, and a closet case, but don’t worry, we’ll make it a little less on-the-nose-y. 
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Capheus is the median between Ma-Ti and Wheeler from Captain Planet, except he’s a bus driver in Nairobi who loves Van Damme. 
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And Get this, Will is a white cis guy and a cop. He’s an officer of the law. You with me so far. Okay. His dad was a cop and his dad was shot on duty. You with me so far? Okay, here’s where it gets weird. Will is like the exact opposite of a cop. He saves the life of a black male youth and a trans woman. I know right. He’s the paladin.”
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The first time I watched it, I binged the first season in one go. I only recommend doing it that way if you start in the morning and take breaks to eat. 
Regarding Quality: The action, the cinematography, and the special effects are everything you would expect from the creators of The Matrix. It’s got heists, fights, chase scenes, anything-but-boring sex scenes, a tribute to Bollywoodesque song numbers as well as Telenovelaeque showdowns. This is eight interconnected movies you are watching all at once.
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Give me the gay: The first time we meet Nomi, she’s having trans, lesbian sex with her girlfriend Amanita, with a rainbow strapon. The show basically says “ride or die,” and we go from there, unapologetic. And it only gets more queer. It’s worth mentioning that Nomi is played by an honest to goodness trans actor, Jamie Clayton, which shouldn’t be a big deal but it is.
Outside of the very important surface level trans and gay representation, there is also a very real “I-am-not-LGBTQ,-but-I-am-now-because-psychic.” The show has oodles of fun playing around with this.  All eight characters by the end of the first season, are basically sliding into each other on a very deep and serious level, and also on a very hopelessly bisexual level. PS. actors from the show smootch at pride IRL, it’s a thing.
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Overall: 8/8 psychically attached partners for the first season. 
Watch on Netflix.com.
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