#who the fuck is martha then?
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the doctor's dynamic with his companions is like the beating hearts of the show, yet for some reason the doctor is so tightlipped about his feelings for martha in particular. it's maddening. sure, the narrative will give us tiny moments of the doctor showing his appreciation of her and acknowledging her presence. martha jones i like you. martha jones you're a star. but what does he think about her? how does he view her? what is her significance to him?
we learn a lot about what martha thinks the doctor thinks about her. he's not seeing me he's just remembering. sometimes i think he likes me but sometimes i just think he needs someone. he doesn't even look at me but i don't care. it's never outright confirmed, but so many signs point to this being the case. the doctor is constantly putting up walls between the two of them, which martha tries so hard to break through. and there are times where it seems like she manages to, where the two of them have genuine moments of connection! only for the next episode to come along and destroy that progress, as if it never happened, and the doctor goes back to being distant and overlooking her.
this wouldn't be as big a deal as it is if there was some sort of comeuppance or catharsis at the end of s3. but in the final speech martha gives to the doctor before she goes, the focus is put on her unrequited love. again. the issue, rtd wants us to believe, is that the doctor doesn't reciprocate martha's romantic feelings for him. but that's not it. the real issue is that the doctor doesn't even treat martha as a proper person, a companion in her own right, a friend who he cherishes and wants to travel with because she's martha jones. instead, he acts as if she's just someone to keep around because he gets lonely on his own.
and so instead of the doctor rightly being called out for his callous treatment of martha, we just have the show brush this under the rug and act like the matter is resolved come s4. because at the end of the day, neither martha nor her relationship to the doctor matter. they never did to the show or its writers. they were just a vehicle to tell the true story, which has nothing to do with martha at all. (this is absolutely rooted in misogynoir btw.)
#people have said this before and i'm sure i have too#i'm just getting pissed off about it again lmao#also i'm not saying that i expect ten to give a monologue about how he feels about martha#the doctor has never been that kind of person#but the fact that the *narrative itself* refuses to interrogate their dynamic from his pov is what frustrates me#rose is the starcrossed love. donna is the best friend.#who the fuck is martha then?#we will never know because rtd doesn't care to examine that question in any real way#martha jones#ten#tenmartha
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rewatched Last of the Time Lords
#God its so funny watching the doctor scream cry and throw up about Torture King 9000 in front of Torture King 9000’s main victims#Their faces are tiny but you can so clearly see the Are You Fucking Kidding Me in their expressions#doctor who#tenth doctor#the master#last of the time lords#jack harkness#martha jones
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next episode cold open is the doctor at martha and mickey’s doorstep with flowers and an “im sorry” card
#doctor who spoilers#dw spoilers#doctor who#dw#martha jones#mickey smith#fifteenth doctor#dot and bubble#lindy pepper bean#fuck you lindy
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Congratulations the the Tardis Team of Donna Noble and Ninth Doctor for being the fucking winners and being democratically elected to be allowed to say fuck!
Also, three cheers for our Runner-Up Tardis Team, Martha Jones and Twelfth Doctor! We shall bestow upon each of them one use of "fuck" per season as the second place prize!
#doctor who#ninth doctor#twelfth doctor#donna noble#martha jones#between these four people they have 75% of the votes for saying fuck lmao
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What I love about Spy x Family's recent chapters concerning Martha and Henry—two secondary characters with little direct connection to the plot as we've known it—is that Endo's taking the opportunity to once again hammer home what the story's actual stakes are. The idea of potential conflict between Ostania and Westalis isn't just window dressing for a wacky wholesome badass family gimmick—the previous wars are real events that various characters lived through, and all of them are in some way affected by it and have good reasons to want to avoid another one. This is primarily an action-adventure/slice-of-life manga with a lot of sendups to spy movies and pop culture of the 60s, but I think those things hold much more weight with the thematic underpinning of the horrors of war and the ruin it leaves behind.
#spy x family#sxf meta#obviously we have twilight's origin story/yor and yuri's parents/the experiments on anya and bond#but there's also sylvia's loss of her family and franky's history and martha's trauma and millie's resentment of fathers who came back#it fucked up the desmonds too just in different ways—donovan being Like That is why melinda demetrius and damian have suffered#and the decisions made by people like donovan from behind a desk are catastrophic for people like twilight and franky in the trenches#endo consistently engages with the implications of his setting in really interesting ways#and using a fictionalized post-war central europe is a VERY resonant choice given the history behind the current geopolitical climate
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Danny slamming open the door(in Phantom form): Jay i think i've just been adopted by your grandparents!
Red Hood having no memories of the GZ and thus no point of reference as to wtf is happening and who is this glowing teenager: ...???
#danny phantom#dpxdc#they are about the same age it's just that phantom form doesn't age for whatever reason#it's kinda self reflection thing or whatever#dead on main#maybe?#feel free to use#danny fenton#jeson is confused™#his core is fucked#which is why he doesn't remember shit he is running on spite and Lazarus ecto#thomas and martha wayne#they did in fact adopt this young adult halfa who they just met#damn i want to read that#it can be pre reveal red hood or not whatever
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Clark: "Mom, the US government kidnapped me."
Martha:
#my adventures with superman#clark kent#martha kent#if there's anyone who can take down the wall herself it's mama fucking kent
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rtd writes normal people escaping the mundanity of their lives whereas moffat writes weird people escaping the normality of other people's lives really does sum it all up
#not to say that rose or martha or donna were never fucked up weirdos#but they were certainly more average people than clara#in some ways rory is almost representative of this#not being an unhinged moffat character#doctor who
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Love- er, evil wins?
#good for them i guess#helluva boss#blitzø#blitz#helluva boss martha#i dont remember the other girls name#you could easily mistake them for hellborn imps if you didnt know they used to be humans#congrats to her for getting together with the lady who fucked her husband#diversity win! they are bi#at the very least not straight#apology tour#mrs mayberry
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I'm trying to be normal about how RTD era Doctor Who treats is black central characters but I can't stop frothing at the mouth every time I think about the Family of Blood two parter
I'm just thinking about how this episode could have been set in any place and time but chose one where Martha would face racial violence. And you have to ask what seeing Martha experiencing racism, being functionally forced into servitude, and belittled by everyone around her adds to the episode.
What does it say about the way this show frames desirability that we see the Doctor as John Smith fall for a white woman over the course of this episode. And that white woman spend most of her runtime insuring Martha "knows her place" in regards to her relationship with the Doctor.
What does it say that the emotional fallout of this episode centralizes said racist white lady's "loss" of a life with John Smith. What does it say that the Doctor is never confronted with the fact that his ultimately arbitrary decision to run away from The Family of Blood instead of face them is the reason Martha was subject to all this violence. Sure, he thanks her for taking care of him but the show never truly problematizes Martha's experiences and the Doctor's culpability in them. John Smith is racist to Martha in this episode and the Doctor never has to apologize for that???
And you can argue that all of these beats tie into Martha's arc. That seeing her treated so shittly by the Doctor is set up for what happens in the finale. But my question is why did this show decide to frame Martha in this way. Why is the story of Doctor Who's first black companion a story about being seen as less than.
#Doctor Who#Martha Jones#I get why people like this ep but I cannot fucking stand it#I said it about micky in series 2 and I'll say it again#The TARDIS is NOT a safe space for black people#mine
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like the important thing you must keep in mind about ten when you see him do literally anything is that he's soooooooooo so so so bad at actually isolating himself from other people. so TERMINALLY bad at it. he thinks to himself "i don't need human connection because everything i do causes pain and destruction to those around me :(" but then he experiences a crumb of human connection and his heart starts to spill out of his chest
#tenth doctor#dr who#doctor who#yeah i say heart singular cuz he said 'i suppose they break my heart' in the next doctor and i have perma brain damage over it#btw. this is why him and martha in the first half of series 3 are Like That. he trusts her deeply but he also doesn't want to form#another deep emotional connection bc look what happened with rose! right! i think partially the reason why he#has his moments of opening up about his past is because he thinks 'well she isn't going to see me again after this'#'i might as well tell her if she asks. it may even scare her off'. this is INSANE. he is INSANE. and he is so fucking STUPID#fool! you are developing a connection with someone!!!!!!! not pushing them away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#look at what you are doing to martha's self esteem bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#10 era
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my personal interpretation of pennywaynes is that alfred had to fuck thomas before he was allowed to fuck martha.
#thomas wayne is NOT gonna let some saucy british man fuck his wife until hes tested his stroke game#martha wayne should only get fucked by people who know what theyre doing and thomas knows exactly how she likes it#martha pulls out the strap & does the same for thomas of course. shes gotta see how well alfred takes it before she unleashes her man on him#alfred pennyworth#thomas wayne#martha wayne#pennywaynes#? i guess i should tag the ship so ppl can blacklist it ig
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3.13 | ᴛʜᴇ ʟᴀꜱᴛ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ʟᴏʀᴅꜱ
link to the post I accidentally wound up prattling endlessly about in the tags 💀
#doctor who#tenth doctor#martha jones#david tennant#freema agyeman#(good god. without even meaning to I went into 'psycho stream of consciousness tagging' mode. whoops)#always thinking of that one post#where OP mentions how the writing tries to make it seem like Ten looked right through Martha/etc#which is a good concept for demonstrating his grief. but also isnt what we really see throughout S3#(not saying he wasn't a grieving MESS because he was. but he's a multi-faceted character and he can grieve AND value Martha simultaneously)#but we see such fierce protective instinct+trust; a bond between them that obviously isn't some one-sided affair#+ his clear intent to impress her/be admired and respected by her (apropos the post that inspired this sentiment)#but RTD obviously isn't the most infallible of writers#*cough* [list of reasons I cut down b/c long] *cough*#He can make Martha say “he's not seeing me/he doesn't look at me” but then you just watch with your eyes and you get a different story#It's like the opposite of when Moffat tries to make you believe someone is super important through bold claims without showing his work#instead RTD tries to make you believe Ten is functionally blind to Martha's existence while showing numerous examples of the contrary#then bring in the novels+myspace blog+cartoon that he all signed off on. Which tie together to create a canon backdrop#basically I said all of that to say this—#it's the whole reason I had to make this blog to get this sort of stuff off my chest (even if it's just for me sometimes)—#Ten not only SAW Martha—he trusted+respected+enjoyed+adored her. And it's a good thing#it doesn't cheapen his grief. I feel like people must think it does which is why I constantly see bad unnecessary takes about them#it just means that Martha was SO important to him and it's ok. they had a killer friendship outside the unrequited minutiae and it's ok#there's even a comic where 'someone' makes him believe she's Martha and he makes her change her appearance because “it's still too raw”#Just saying you don't say that sort of thing about someone whose existence you're all blasé about#Martha already gets fucked by the narrative in enough ways without people totally missing her significance in the Doctor's life#you don't have to ship them to appreciate them on a deeper level#anyway. fuck. if you actually read all of these then I'm so sorry#creating this blog has taught me that there are only like two people who feel the same way about tenmartha matters and it’s fine 😂#but if I didn’t give myself an outlet it would probably form a tumor SO there we are then
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This is what a point blank shot to the head at 6.30AM feels like by the way
#my friends are smart and sometimes they fucking kill me#like jesus christ. where the lie though#but also considering the fact that Arkham initially was Martha's passion project—#and considering all the monsters with running mascaras in Arkham—#Batman#Batman meta#micro meta even xD#also tagging as#batjokes#because GUESS WHO'S BRUCE WAYNE'S LONGEST SURVIVING UTTERLY MANGLED VICTORIAN DOLL#batjokes meta
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The Doctor and Martha talk and he tells her that Donna is okay and has her memories back and Martha is like "WHY HAVE I BEEN WASTING MY TIME TALKING TO YOU THEN??" and immediately starts up a video chat with her.
#martha jones#donna noble#doctor who#CAN YOU TELL WHATS ON MY MIND LATELY??#THATS RIGHT ITS MARTHA GETTING TO HAVE SOME FUCKING FRIENDS
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the appeal for nine and rose for me, is that nine gets to reconnect with the wonders of the universe by seeing it through this young woman's eyes and rose gets to have a fantasy of being taken out of everyday life and see the wonders of the universe, as a simple fairytale/(re)introduction to the world for the audience
the appeal for ten and rose for me, is that they double-down on this premise because it's inevitably going to end and is constantly ticking down to that end throughout this story, and the only way for them to move through life now is to pretend that nothing ever ends which makes them increasingly detached from reality, and is in and of itself a tragedy
the appeal for ten and martha for me, is that ten is spiralling and martha is a doctor to her core, and both of them want to fix everything for everyone else except themselves and so they're mirrors of a similar self-destructive sacrificial drive that makes them orient around each other in an unhealthy coping-mechanism kind of way that martha eventually has to detach herself from, even though there were the wonders...
the appeal for ten and donna for me, is that donna is actually very level-headed, and in many ways very capable, even though she doesn't believe in herself she can make decisions that are healthier than either rose or martha could, and the doctor initially through wanting her to believe in herself forces themself outside of their bubble of despair, which somewhat breaks the cycle of the previous companions (although, not properly until a very long time later)
#rose and the doctor do not work for me if they're not a tragedy -- if the ending isn't fated and they're not running from it#and martha and the doctor... well i need some fucking closure on that one BUT i do like this story a whole lot#i think it is delicious#doctor who#dw#i do think technically martha's story with ten / fourteen / this era is over in a way that is different to donna returning for the specials#but i think if anything could explore her well it's fifteen-era (and hey maybe within that there's an allusion to her seeing donna again#and fourteen by extension)#(but the point is martha and fifteen in my head)#rose tyler#martha jones#donna noble#the doctor#the ninth doctor#the tenth doctor#the fourteenth doctor#doctor who meta
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