#who made a deal with theraprism bill
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toxcicada · 3 months ago
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Doodle of my Posessed-Human Bill getting lost in looking at the stars. He's a part of an AU where Bill gets ahold of a body in the 70s, and manages to possess it long-term, at the cost of 99.99% of his powers. I imagine it's been a long, wild party and he just stepped outside and really *saw* the stars of this universe for the 1st time. They're so familiar, yet completely different.
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ninjadragon11472 · 4 months ago
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OK so when I get hyper fixated I can’t sleep and here’s something my brain conjured last night that I want to get onto paper- so basically after like 2 years in the theraprism Bill has made slight progress (not a lot) and the Axolotl offers him another deal in order to speed up his progress. There's a human on earth (50 something male) that recently died with a lot of loose ends unresolved, and if Bill can possess the corpse and tie up all the loose ends for the human then he’ll be able to be reincarnated early. Bill is like losing his mind in therapy and also thinks he can use this opportunity for freedom so agrees. At this point he's getting tired and deep down wants to reincarnate, but also plots to find a way to get his og form back while he’s down there. So anyway he slowly gets used to being in a human body again and very quickly realizes that the guy he's inhabiting did have a lot of sad struggles, that somewhat mirrored Bill’s own (trouble with parents and regret and loneliness) and honestly like I conjured this whole journey of him coming to terms with himself through this guy, and with the help of Ford, who he runs into accidentally at the pub he and Stanley stop at to get a drink on their boating adventures. At first Ford recognizes him and panics, threatening to kill him etc. etc. as he should tbh, and follows Bill around trying to stop him from whatever secret plot he has, but after Bill tells him what's going on, eventually Ford declares he’ll help him with his goal so that he will reincarnate and be "gone forever". Ugh it could be so good and honestly I wish I had time to write/draw something with this skdjghaisug-
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ckret2 · 1 month ago
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stickler for canon accuracy here, do you think i should wait for more chapters to be updated to be TBOB compatible before i read them, or should i just go ahead and read them as they are? i don't see myself as being likely to reread them once they're updated, is the issue
honestly 98% of the fic is so canon complaint that a little conspiracy theorist in my head keeps wondering if Alex has been reading my blog. I mean I gave Bill an ex-girlfriend who's essentially a howling void canon compliant. I mean I wrote Bill saying he likes Mabel's dreams because they're a mix of Hieronymus Bosch and Lisa Frank canon compliant. I mean "I wrote Bill dissociating meditating for thousands of years straight to pass time," "I gave Ford a love of moths," "I gave Bill a cult full of women who want to marry him," "I said over a year before the book came out that Bill was born with a medical mutation that let him see the third dimension and he destroyed his dimension trying to prove that he wasn't crazy" canon compatible—I could keep going but I'm gonna stop myself.
So, 98% of the fic? You're fine. Adding TBOB compatibility is mainly just slipping in a few references to the book to spice things up.
The fic will be a richer experience with the TBOB edits; but it's not canon-incompatible without them.
The 2% is chunky though. Mainly:
Made his parents the wrong shapes/colors (easy fix)
got a few henchmaniacs' backgrounds/characterizations wrong, especially Amorphous Shape. (Got a few surprisingly right though. I pegged Keyhole as the group Thompson and Xanthar as a Lovecraftian god.) this'll require some annoying revisions but not huge changes
originally I had the Axolotl just reincarnate Bill as a human, rather than ship him to the Theraprism where he reincarnated himself, so Bill's worried the Axolotl might be mad at him for running straight back to Gravity Falls a few months after Weirdmageddon; post-revisions, that's gonna be Bill worrying the Axolotl might be mad at him for breaking out of Theraprism, which is a bigger deal.
So, you don't wanna reread 60-something chapters, all right, that's fair. Would you be willing to reread like three chapters, though? Or like 2 chapters and 3 scenes? Because that's about all that will need HEAVY revisions—and when I've edited those particular chapters, I'm gonna point out that they've been changed and go "hey y'all probably wanna reread them."
If you don't wanna do that much though, I'd wait.
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myrrh1806 · 3 months ago
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BILL CIPHER LORE
Type wellwellwellbeing and click it three times.....you get to see three excerpts from Bill's files at theraprism.
( context : The axolotl sends bill to therapy after season 2 finale )
Type seven eyes to get a picture of one of bill's friends ?......There is a message at the back too ( a warning)
type cipher to see Bill hidden in history ( prolly canon...)
type ad astra per aspera ( ford's journal 1-2 pages about bill's statue)
type robbie ( bill makes an appearance in a photo, also Thompson hates his toxic friend but beggars can't be choosers )
type Dorito ( Wait till the end. You see Bill's true form )
type shave your grandma ( Bill's view on humanity. Its pretty funny)
type stan and click 6 times ( You get to play a game with bill and uncover granule Stan's secret shame)
type dipper and repeatedly click ( Bill basically trolls him. Its funny. Also something at the end after the paper is burnt )
type love for.........well, its almost every fanfic of bill in ao3. ( The image made me do a spit take )
type r34lity ( pics of bill's minions in their new homes.....crptos stands next to a drawing of bill. Dunno what that means....maybe he misses him ? Prolly mocking him, though)
type oroborous ( Sixer had a pet axolotl and Bill wasn't very happy )
type irregular ( Bill's mugshots )
type vallis cineris ( baby bill )
type tourist trap ( bill's in it.....might have to examine this pics further. could be some clue ?)
type bubble and turn the knob ( backward message says :“The Sky is on fire. Everything is burning. How could this happen? You killed us all. Remember us. Someone help, the murderer's name is Bill.” Prolly the dying screams of flatland before bill.....you know.)
type destruction is a form of creation ( rambling of fiddle ford after he peeked into the portal and saw bill.....could be clues in there )
type say baaaa ( Bill acts like Sta- a conman )
type naitsuaf ( you get to make a deal with bill )
type hectoring ( songsposition )
type weirdmageddon ( proof that the people of gravity falls are either in denial of the apocalypse or forgot )
type tantrum ( bill vs time baby )
type scary ( knockoff goosebumps audiobook bill made. Man, Bill and Stanley have a lot in common from the conman angle. They could have been friends....in another timeline *sigh* )
type goodnight sally ( no lore but, its a cool bill t- shirt )
type even his lies are lies ( Bill's pov when sixer still trusted him - bill is talking to his therapist)
type suck it merlin ( bill throughout history )
type black sheep ( Bill's a jerkwad )
type cursed ( Bill is a bad influence )
type card ( another one of bill's 'ventures' )
type one eyed king ( bill tries to hypnotise you )
type forget the past ( its a colour code for the smart ones out there....it would be awesome someone solved it, ig )
type lies ( you see how bill lies to himself......his therapist should take notes)
type monster ( how bill views himself )
type breakup ( shows you the bar bill drank at after ending things with Ford )
type Kubrick ( Bill caught on camera )
type hey nerd ( Bill 'ventures'. Don't buy anything from that catalog !)
type booberry ( welcome to bill's ted talk. nil, he actually gave solid advice if you ignore the projecting )
type fordtramarine ( describes a color only people who have come in contact with bill or other extra dimensional entities can see )
type hotxolotl ( info about bill and his henchmaniacs after his defeat )
type morality ( bill's philosophy )
type you cant kill an idea ( leads to bill's pyramid scheme ciphertology)
type emmaline butter nubbins ( you get to download illustrations of bill from the book of bill without text. Pretty cool )
type piñata ( bill gets beat up by a little girl. )
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sleepy-spacetronaut · 4 days ago
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New gravity falls Fic and Au idea - “Rewind the Timeline”
Start note: First of all, I must be stopped. I’ve made too many designs for Bill and story ideas. TOO MANY!!! If I am found to be unoriginal with this one, then I guess the world does work as Plato had thought it to be. This Alternate Universe plot will be a sort of Frankenstein’s monster of pre-existant ideas, put in a blender to produce a sort of terrible yet interesting mix.
With further ado, about the plot:
Au name: Rewind the timeline
Summary: After sojourning at the Theraprism, Bill is sentenced to reincarnation as a humanoid creature with an enormous lifespan. However, his “a different place, a different time” part of the deal was upheld seriously. Therefore, instead of being sent to Gravity falls in the future, Bill gets yeeted (isekai’d?) into the wilderness of post-colonial America that has barely gained independence 20-ish years prior. Naked, without powers, and under the form of a naive child with unnaturally bright yellow eyes with slanted pupils. He must now survive by his own means, living “on and off” with the human society through decades until he meets the Pines.
key elements:
+ Bill takes up various identities, becoming a professional liar
+ Bill doesn’t age as normal humans do, therefore he stays young-looking for long periods of time. And it obviously freaks people out.
+He’s a “cuckoo baby” -> infiltrates families for the sake of survival. +Since he had his memories intact, he effortlessly excels at studies and would be considered a genius for his time, but doesn’t want to attract attention, so instead he acts like an irritatingly uncooperative student who gets into arguments with his professors.
+Experiences human vices of all sorts (indulges into drugs and alcohol) and commits a shitload of murders throughout centuries.
+Meets Stanford and Fiddleford in college and becomes their 3rd roomie.
+Bill helps to bring Stanley back and make him and Ford reconnect, then becomes Ford’s “College sweetheart”.
+Fiddleford grows to instinctively dislike Bill after finding evidence that he may not be what he claims.
+Fiddleford found old newspapers articles, old photographs and books with Bill’s faces in them while doing a research project in college, he got unseasy and told Ford about his findings, but that caused them to have an argument and they “broke-up” a while after they started working on the portal for Bill.
+Later, Bill still convinces Ford to make the portal, but -> Ford gets sucked in during the testing part when Stan is present.
+Bill feels remorseful but powerless so he goes into hiding, up until Dipper and Mabel arrive in town.
+Weirdmaggedon has very slim chances of happening/will happen much differently than expected
Bill’s human design for the story (a prototype):
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End note: Let me know what you guys think! This would be a crazy short fic for me to write once I get the time, but what’s even crazier is that I made the whole plot (plus some designs) all within to two hours. 😳
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kousagi7hikari · 3 months ago
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Soooo…
Bill Cipher in Twisted Wonderland.
It’s probably Ace and Deuce’s fault (it’s always Ace and Deuce’s fault.) and when Bill is summoned, he is HORRIFIED to see that it’s in a human body. Cos ew human body gross. It’s also a tumblr sexyman twink body cos that’s the rules Twst plays by. He’s also aware of his limited range of motion. (“How come I can only make five poses and facial expressions????”)
So Bill sets off to find someone to make a deal with so he can get his real form back and find a way out of this world.
However, not a single one of these teenagers is interested in making a deal.
Most of them don’t trust him (Leona, Jamil, etc.)
Some prefer to do the hard work (Vil)
Some abide by the rules too hard (“The rules of the Queen of Hearts state that any handshake deals may only be performed in the presence of a licensed amphibian!”)
And while some come close (Ruggie, Kalim) they have other folks to talk them out of it.
There’s even a few who won’t even talk to him (Idia)
And some are too goody-goody for Bill to even bother with (Silver, Jack)
And Rook just creeps him out.
Eventually, Bill comes across Grimm, and offers him a deal to make him a great mage, which Grimm almost jumps on, but realizes he might lose his minion (us) so he asks what we think.
>You should go for it Grimm!
>Seems fishy…
“Who are you talking to?”
Because the MC has no sprite, Bill doesn’t see them…
But he sees US.
“Ohhh! I see! This is some kinda mobile game! Probably approved by the mouse huh?”
And he taps on the screen which makes the sparkles when you tap on the screen in Twst appear.
“How INTERESTING. Now that I know you’re there, if you tap the screen at all, I can shake your hand and get outa here!”
If you have autoplay on, he reaches up and turns it off.
“Looks like it’s just you and me, pal! And I’ve got an eternity!”
Thankfully the game keeps moving and the students and Crowly show up to warn us about Bill.
Bill finds this amusing and treats us to an unwinnable fight.
Bill, now in his red form, taunts us some more…
And then we get the flashbacks. Like how the MC gets Disney Movie flashbacks at the beginning of each book.
“Names Bill Cipher!”
“Hiya smart guy!”
“I know lots of things! Lots of things.”
“WELCOME ONE AND ALL!! TO WIERDMAGEDDON!!!!”
“I have some children I need to make into corpses!!”
And then…
“Do a pretty good impression of my brother, don’t I? Switch clothes and no one can tell us apart!”
“You’re a real wise guy, but you made one fatal mistake: YOU MESSED WITH MY FAMILY!”
“No you’re making a mistake!!! I’ll give you anything! Money! Fame! Infinite riches! Your own galaxy! PLEASE!!! WHATS HAPPENING TO ME???”
“STANLEYYYYYYY!!!!”
>Left Hook
Whack!
Bill turns yellow, everyone is shocked.
“Did Yuu just… punch him??”
Luckily, this has bought enough time for some kind of agents (probably from the theraprism) to show up and take Bill away, kicking and screaming.
That night, the MC has a dream (?) where they talk to triangle Bill through the mirror they usually talk to Mickey in.
Bill “thanks” them for getting him arrested AGAIN. But since he’s on our mind, he gives us something to remember him by (and totally not a conduit to come back from/see through):
An SR card for twisted Bill Cipher.
With a promise:
We’ll meet again~!
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stargodau · 19 days ago
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Chapter 1 Proposition
         Bill stared at the ceiling feeling utterly empty. His afterlife now consisted of nothing but pain and misery, tests, needles, medications, and physical abuse. The Theraprism a place of ‘healing’ and ‘redemption’ did nothing but break him apart, slowly. The crack across his body had expanded to both sides now, breaking him into five pieces. He lay on his cell floor staring at the incandescent light overhead. It burned his eye but he didn’t mind much, pain was the only real thing he had felt in a while.
          A click. The door opened to show one of those nasty therapists standing there. This particular therapist reminded him of someone who had far too many eyes. They took on a sort of sky blue color with darker blue frills. 
       “Patient #323322 the great Axolotl has requested your presence. Do not make it wait any longer than necessary.” The therapist’s shrill voice and calm tone, made him wish they had given him medication to deafen him along instead of just subduing him.
          “Wouldn’t dream of it.” He groaned getting up off the floor. Cuffs were of course immediately fastened around his wrists and two guards accompanied them as they walked through the halls to Axy’s office.
          “Do not disappoint the Axolotl.” Was all that was said to Bill before he was shoved inside the office to face the lizard on his own. The Ax’s office was cluttered, papers stranded on its desk and around the floor. Books were stacked against the walls stretching up to the ceiling. Each book, Cipher knew, contained the knowledge of countless dimensions, crammed in using magic.
          “Have a seat Bill.” Rumbled the Axolotl in its low, cheerful voice. Bill obliged. The Axolotl itself looked quite haggard for it being an all knowing benevolent god. There were slight creases under its star filled eyes, though those too had lost some sparkle to them.
          Bill considered before starting conversation. “What’s the word frills? Finally taking me outta this dump or do I need an extended stay?” He really hoped he was being released, he didn’t know how much more of this he could take.
          The Axolotl cocked its head at him, the responded, “ We are here to discuss your inability to accept the Theraprism’s help. You know your therapists only wants best for you, though no matter how much they try you seem to stay the same.” Bill stared ahead at the amphibian, confused. What help? The therapists had never even extended an olive branch.
          It continued, “You seem to in fact, gotten worse as we can see from these cracks here.” A hand was extended towards Bill’s left side where the cracks had grown onto.
          Instead of groveling or apologizing like the Ax probably hoped he would Bill became glowing red with anger. “Getting worse? GETTING WORSE? All I have been trying to do is get better while here but those ‘therapists’ insist I’m not doing enough, and do you know what happens? DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS? I get shoved into a void for ‘wellness’ and to think about how I can ‘change’ and ‘be better’. I’m a lost cause already but the only person who can’t seem to figure that out is you! Perhaps using these dimensions worth of knowledge you can get a brain!” He didn’t have any powers but oh boy did yelling without immediately getting beaten feel good.
          Once again the Axolotl didn’t react harshly, just sighing before it spoke. “Bill I know you are suffering that’s why I came here. The Theraprism won’t teach you anything, it’s not  what’s right for you. I just came here to tell you that I’m coming up with a solution. Please be good for a few days and I will contact you to let you know the new arrangement.” It smiled at him, prompting him to answer.
          “Well, how could I say no to that Axy? I accept your deal with open arms! What’s the catch though, I know you aren’t stupid enough to give this to me for free.” Bill narrowed his eye at the amphibian, something was up and he was going to find out what it was. The Axolotl was staring at him with a strange look he couldn’t quite decipher.
          “I will contact you once I figure out the exact details of this new deal Bill. Be good and may you have star filled days.” And with that the Axolotl disappeared from sight. The guards grabbed him before leading him back to his cell to wait in agony until the Ax contacted him. Waiting, with no hope at all.
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zionanelequaso · 2 months ago
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I’ve already decided I’m yapping. batman x bill cipher lore BEAM!!!!
warnings: yaoi, gravity falls spoilers, angst, yaoi, yaoi, did i mention yaoi, tbob spoilers(???)
okay. so. all the shit in gravity falls IS canon, but after stan punched bill into oblivion, bill met the axolotl and they made a deal. if bill somehow redeemed himself to the point of at least only being a little prankster, the axolotl would send him back to earth. so, the axolotl sent him to the theraprism, where 1 second in our world is 100 years there (this comes in handy for me). I still haven’t decided how many seconds in our world he was in there.
eventually he managed to redeem himself to the point of just being a mischievous being. so, the axolotl decided to send him somewhere that wasn’t gravity falls so he could have time to choose if he wanted to say sorry or not (keep this in mind). also bill got his powers back because the axolotl was feeling nice. bill got sent to gotham, and was just floating around before he met Batman. Immediately, he was quite enamored! having long moved on from ford (somehow.), he decided to start watching batman like a hawk. and follow him everywhere. and I mean everywhere. from the start, he knew Batman was bruce, yes, but he didn’t let him know that until the second time they crossed paths. yes, the second. so then, when batman was like “wait what” he went “ok so now you know I know who you are I’m gonna follow you like everywhere mk??” and for some reason, bruce (i switch between calling him either batman or bruce it just depends on how I feel okay) could find himself taking a slight “liking” to bill as well.
spoiler alert, they do get freaky on multiple occasions I’m just not writing about that stuff because I’m a minrorooririijhehjdjshdjia. leave that to your imagination FREAKS!!! (the only reason I’ve even included this fact is because I’m hypersexual!!! I won’t talk about them actually being freaks I’ll just include suggestive stuff leave me alone!!! [sorry I feel the need to apologize and explain myself a lot ok])
okay so there are multiple different ways this can go, but I mostly include 2 (with an occasional secret 3rd and 4th option)
option 1 which is actually the secret third option: since I haven’t watched or read anything with genuinely serious robins + I love love love silly robin with all my heart and soul, there’s this one, where robin (based off of Lego robin) has to just watch bill go BAZINGA over batman and be very confused.
option 2 which is actually the secret 4th option: everything basically stays the same, except ford somehow also got sent to gotham by the axolotl (with intent of having bill and ford meet up or something to see how bill reacts.) depending on how you’d feel, they can either meet pre-batman and get their yaoi back, or stanford can meet joker, have yaoi with that guy, meet bill and go “fuck off,” or they can just never meet and at some point stanford gets super close to redeeming joker. this part is a big joke my friend from school made that I expanded on but I think it’s super funny
option 3: everything stays the same, it’s just bill, batman, and the rogues.
option 4: bill comes in contact with the Justice league and somehow becomes a part of them. not explicitly, but yk he’s just there. this is probably my favorite
so, however this goes, there will always be a thing where bill gets sent back to gravity falls WITH batman (and others, depending on which interpretation you’re talking about [UNLESS you’re talking about the thing where stanford and bill DO cross paths]), and dipper gets the whole fam out, stanford tells batman everything, and bill just LOSES IT.
everything he’s worked for, just gone down the drain.
so, he can either become evil again and have to get ANOTHER redemption arc (but this time without the axolotl), or he can have a breakdown on the spot and beg for forgiveness.
if you choose the first option, he will get forgiven by his peers, but the pines family will still be wary. also, he’ll get the fuck out of gravity falls as soon as he can
if you choose the second option, bruce can either forgive him or not forgive him, which then evolves into either the 1st option or even more of a breakdown until either the 1st option or batman forgives him. that make sense??
and that’s basically it! here’s some stuff about bill
1. he actually did care about stanford or something in the past, he just felt like he had to purposefully hurt him so it wouldn’t have to be on accident (like his family)
2. he finally learned how to not feel the need to push people away!! yay!!!
3. he would get married to bruce. this is canon I’m bill’s 3rd eyelash
I wonder how alex hirsch would feel if he knew that someone out there shipped bill cipher x batman. that someone is me.
also jfc that was a lot more than I was expecting but it was super fun to write!!
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dipperpines-kin · 15 days ago
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Three Brothers Lost (A What if Bill was a Triplet) (Part 1)
"I mean, who would sacrifice everything they've worked for just for their dumb sibling?" Mabel looked up at him and grinned, her eyes turning black and yellow like his. The book dropped from her hands and fell down to the stage below, loose pages floating everywhere and disappearing into the slowly growing void. As she grabbed the railings silver blood poured from her mouth and eyes and millions of screams filled the air. "Wouldn't you?" Bill woke with a start and slid off the bed, panting slightly and trying to calm his rapidly beating heart as he gripped his Theraprism uniform tightly. He swallowed the nausea building in his throat and sat up, kneading his eye painfully with his fist until he saw stars. He hadn't seen his brothers in eons. He could barely remember them. So why now did he feel an overwhelming sense of guilt and dread?
~ Eons ago Bill's parents had made a deal with a god for three perfect and special children. The god bestowed upon them just that, with a warning that their fate had now changed and the future held a trial most terrible. Scalene and Euclid didn't care for those words, but they'd cross that bridge later. For now they looked forward to becoming parents. Triplets were born to the couple not long afterwards all of them perfect in shape as promised. Bill with his ability to see beyond their 2D world, Will who could change his shape to whatever he wanted, and Steve with the ability to move things with his mind. Their parents made them keep their gifts secret. But Bill refused.
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ask--billcipher · 3 months ago
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Hello again theraprism staff thanks for the speedy answer to my Query’s.
My only question now is…if they most likely get mind wiped. What is the point of them getting therapy?
If you are gonna set them back to zero why not just do that immediately. Especially for someone like bill who, if my research is correct:
-One shot the Time Baby (even if he regens it’s gonna suck for the people who have to deal with that later)
-Destroyed his own home dimension (Rip Euclidia)
-Started a whole Cult (Ciphertology was a weird time to witness)
-weirdmageddon (whole ass 3 part tv special kind of deal)
And many more?
Eh what do I know I’m not a official theraprism therapist
——with regards
—CX
Ps: another patient query, though much less likely, is there someone Known as Afton in there and more specifically people known as Old man Consequences and Cassidy?
PPS: Hey bill if you are somehow reading this: What’s 9+10? (If you are cultured you know the true answer)
Hello again, answering your questions was no problem so do not worry.
The point of the therapy is so they notice the mistakes they have made in their life, we base our system in making the patients know and fix their actions as possible so they can peacefully let their past life behind with no regrets as we find that it makes the process of reincarnation easier
And we believe everyone can get a chance at this no matter their crimes and actions, this being the reason we still give Cipher therapy, also he was referred to us by Axolotl so if Axolotl believes that Cipher is capable of change then so do we.
Again, best regards to you too
-theraprism staff
PS:I am actually not sure of this exact patient query as I don't attend that much to other patients but I will ask around if I get the possibility to do so.
PSS: 21! I WAS THERE TO SEE THAT VINE BE RECORDED!
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ladyvendetta · 2 months ago
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HOTD X GRAVITY FALLS (anything is possible don't judge me)
Ok so tweaks on le lore.
Daemon Cipher's Lore:
So basically Bill finds a muse so he chose Curien instead of Ford, cuz Curien has set of knowledge to create a portal. Ford and Fiddleford warned Curien but he's a mad man, even made abominations that fits Bill's image (especially the Magician and the Bosses).
Curien made a deal with Bill to cure Daniel, unfortunately due to his madness that caused from Bill. Daniel died from the illness without a cure.
That's why after Curien made the portal early, the Weirdmageddon and zombie apocalypse came. Even Curien was killed by Magician, the triangle can possess him (possibly to become Wheel of Fate) and Goldman (to become The World).
Daniel at first thought it ended his story, so he met Axolotl and made a purpose: to be Bill's equal opposite like the rest of the Bills. Aside to protect humanity and the rest of universes that affected from Weirdmageddon, he will interfere Bill's evil plans.
Axolotl reincarnated him as Bill Cipher, however after he left Euclydia (don't worry about them, they're still alive but sad thing his parents still accept him as their Billy even he's not) and he has identity crisis before went to Theraprism early (like Deity Bill) in order to recover who really was in the past. He changed his name to Daemon Cipher to not confuse with Bill Cipher.
He helped people especially Thomas Rogan and G. Daemon and Rogan made a deal to revive Sophie, in exchange of their knowledge of protection and assistance in battle (that's why he'd rather wield a gun). He even befriends Ford and the Pines Family and proven he's no threat to him. Stan in that universe was Rogan and G's fellow friend in AMS.
Rogan favored in return: to protect Lisa (that's why the two soulbonded when time comes). If ever Lisa done reckless things, he immediately possessed her and calmly reprimand her.
Yeap that's his lore, he's Bill's counterpart and he doesn't brought chaos, only second chances and redemption.
P.S: I'm terrible at drawing so 😁
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ax3-e0ns · 11 days ago
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I have another offering for you, goddex of crossshipping. Janus x theraprism bill
Janus crossed with any suit-wearing deal-making slimeball is an automatic self explained ship waiting to happen. It escalates both most negative traits past a boiling point, and can manifest in a lot of ways... especially as toxic old man yaoi-
Janus x Bill though adds new layers to explore in contrast to other options:
Depending on the scenario of Janus existing within the world of Gravity Falls or if Bill Cipher exists within Sanders Sides as another character within the main character's imagination, you can play with who would hold more power & what they would each do to one up the other. (You can also go the route of creating a mutual playing field AU like a fantasy or thieves AU but both of these freaks can sprout multiple arms like eldritch abominations, abstract stuff would be really amplified with these two)
However, throwing in specifically Bill while he's in Theraprism brings in an additional angle of "I can fix him" that not a lot of other options would have at the ready, as Janus also embodies things like self care. But Janus also embodies repression, so you can also throw in having Janus act as an obstacle that keeps Bill from leaving Theraprism (whatever Janus would get from doing that, at least).
There could also have Janus psycho-analyze Bill to better understand Ch!Thomas's needs in some way, but that would require deeper thinking skills that I unfortunately I am too small-brained to cook up right now lmao.
The only obstacle for much is whether or not you go with tumblr sexy man Bill or Triangle.
... Full triangle would be really funny though-
Have these two rough doodles for this ship concept. I've done art for the others, it would be weird not to do it here. The first one was meant to be a reference to Silent Hill 2 because mind games made too much sense for this combo in particular. The second is a straight forward reference to Bill's deals.
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(guilty admission, the longer I was thinking of Bill in context to the Sanders Sides characters the more I thought of Bill as Remus and Janus's illegitimate child. Which wasn't the prompt but felt like it was worth sharing anyways.)
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ckret2 · 4 months ago
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So I do have a question. How are you going to spin this for the fanfic? Because canonically Bill is stuck in therapy for who knows how long.
If you complete therapy in the Theraprism, you get to reincarnate as a shrimp or fungus or something pathetic like that—right?
Which means they have the technology/magic in-house to facilitate a reincarnation.
Bill prison breaks himself by escaping his cell, getting to that equipment, finding the easiest preset to let himself respawn as something intelligent on Earth, fussing with the settings to make the machine respawn him with his memory intact and already a full adult, and poofs out of there before the staff can stop him.
I'm gonna have to rewrite a few scenes and add another early chapter, but I think overall it'll improve the fic. Gives a very good reason why he panicked so severely at being locked in a small room for a few hours. And an EXTREMELY good reason why he's terrified when the Axolotl pays a visit. ("Is he here to haul me back?")
And I think it could bring some good sources of drama. The trauma of that experience (sensory deprivation tanks are NOT an acceptable way to deal with rowdy patients!!!). The conflict in the idea of trying to help Bill get "better" when what should be the gold standard of Helping Someone Get Better (therapy) only made him worse. How do you get someone to open up about his pain after he's spent so long trapped in a place that tried to forcibly wrench his pain out of him without his consent? How do you arrange "if you improve as a person we'll set you free" with someone who just escaped from somewhere that offered the exact same deal, when what that place meant was "once you're psychologically stripped of everything that made you you, we'll let you crawl out of here as a worm"?
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thatraccoonthing · 2 months ago
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a little list of my headcanons from common to hilarious and/or emotionally damaging
Transmasc Dipper (obviously)
Billford
Mabel definitely cosplays
Stan sees Soos like a son
Ford met Twink Bill once, immediately hated him
Caryn genuinely cared about Stan, hence why she came to his funeral. She most likely died thinking her son was dead without ever knowing he made it past 30.
Bill did a ritual of sorts to 'liberate' his dimension, hence his powers
The entire cast has a fear of triangles now
Bill and Pyronica hooked up once and she won't stop bringing it up
Euclidean biology and anatomy needs to get its own whole post because there's way too much for just here
Bill gets PTSD sort flashbacks every time someone draws him in something related to his parents and Euclydia
Fiddleford was genuinely scared of Stanford being possessed by Bill and often hid when he was
Anti-Mabel means that Anti-Dipper and others exist
That goat seen some shit
There's a dart board in the Shack with a picture of Bill on it. Everyone throws a dart at it when they pass by.
Neither Stan or Ford (or McGucket either) keep up with legal news, so they all learn about gay marriage being legalized from eachother with it originating from either Mabel, Wendy, or being invited to Blubs and Durland's wedding. The Stans then conspire to see who McGucket likes most.
Dipper can't grow facial hair and Soos teaches him how to glue it on, with help from Mabel
The mailman is a werewolf
Bill's room in the Theraprism is soundproofed because he keeps trying to break out and scream at everything
Bill clicks a pen when emotional, but it has to be a pen that looks like the one Ford always carries around
Dipper and Mabel both listen to Sailor Quick (Taylor Swift)
Dipper taught Stan slang and brainrot specifically to get back at Mabel for teaching Ford Minionese
Bill tried to make a deal with Fiddleford once, but he failed since he had already seen when he possessed Ford.
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haihaithebanaynay · 3 months ago
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♡>:) hehe, Bill plays with Fords body as Ford watches in both horror...and disbelief♡
Warnings: uhm, I guess some...smut like things? Idk- swearing, uhhh...yeah, minors do not interact(or do, I'm just a horny 13 year old girl with mental problems-)
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What started as a normal day, turned into horror. Stanley and Stanford pines, the two old man twins who are sailing the artic seas for anomalies, well, one day, what started as just like any other day, turned into an unimaginable horror. Bill, who had somehow managed to escape the theraprism, had possessed Stanley. Unknown to Ford ofcourse, who had slightly shook Stan's hand when he was cleaning it after Stan(or Bill)had cut himself, unknowingly causing Bill to travel through bodies to the other twin. Stan was back to normal and Ford had no idea it wasn't Stan for the first 17 hours he had done routinely stuff with(17 hours=5PM). It only occurred to Ford later that night he had when Bill possessed his dream...
"Hey sixer!"
"Bill?! What-what are you doing here?! Your..your supposed to be gone!"
"Well, I'm back! And I have control of your body again~"
"Bill! N-" Ford couldn't finish his sentence as Bill possessed him. Ford(or Bill), sat up and looked around
"Mhm.." Then, he heard Stanley snoring and rolled his eyes as he got up
"Fuckin' fatass.." Ford yelled at Bill, yelling at him to "not call my brother a fatass!"
"Well, he is" Bill nochantly said as he walked into the bathroom and looked at Fords body
"Mhm...I wonder what your hiding under that turtleneck.." Bill said, as he then took Ford's turtleneck off and tossed it somewhere before looking at the scars and abs Ford had hidden, along with silver colored chest hair. Ford(or Bill) whistled
"Well damn Sixer, didn't know a man in his 60's could look like this~"
Bill teased as Ford yelled at him to stop in his mind, but stopped when Ford(Bill)looked down and muttered
"..I wonder if he's packing?" (Yes, Bill knows slang, course he does, how is he supposed to make deals with youngins?)
Ford asked "what do you "if I'm packing"?", but Bill didn't answer as he nonchalantly stuck Fords(Bill-)hand down his pants and pulled out his cock, his other hand pulling his(Fords)pajama pants down slightly. Ford had stared in shock as Bill, possessing Ford, hummed and said
"Damn, 6 inches, he is packing" Ford was utterly confused, but once again, froze, when Bill, without hesitation, just grabbed Ford's cock and pulled it out
"Mhm...girthy to-hah~.." Ford(Bill-)moaned when he had started to gently rub it, Ford just watched, not knowing whether to be disgusted, disturbed, or in disbelief, but he was definitely disturbed..
For the next hour or so, Bill, in Ford's body, just walked around, almost killing Ford about...12 times, until Ford and Bill made an agreement. It was after the 12th time Bill almost got Ford off the boat
"WAIT WAIT! W-what do you want?!"
"...want?..." Bill asked?(idk)as he turned back to Ford's ghost. Bill didn't really know what he wanted..until he thought about it for a second
"You"
"M-me?" Ford asked in confusion
"Yes sixer, i want you...I wanna be like we used to.." Ford scoffed at that
"Like we used to be"? Please, tha-"
"Ford please, I know I used you, but the feelings were real, I miss the way you'd always find ways to cuddle me.." Even though it was weird...Ford could see the sadness in...his eyes, as Bill, possessing his body, stared at him, with desperation
"..tomorrow night we can figure it out..just...let me have my body back and...I'll think about it" Ford answered, and with that, Ford and Bill switched. Ford, being back in his body, just went to bed, not bothering to even check his. The next day, when Stan and Ford were fishing, Stan made a comment on seeing blood on Ford's neck, causing Ford to leave to the bathroom for a bit to fix it, he also felt his shirt wet, so he took that off, and what did he see?...
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^^ I'm too lazy to finish the rest of the drawing and draw abs- but uh...yw^^
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disneytheorizer · 4 months ago
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**Spoiler Alert**
If you haven’t seen the Book of Bill yet, don’t read this post.
Bill Cipher’s possible connection to the Disney Universe:
Throughout the Book of Bill, we see many references to other Disney films and lore. While yes, I know that Gravity Falls is owned by Disney, I feel like not many acknowledge this. Within the Book of Bill, he’s drawn in a Steamboat Willie style, his head is on Chernabog’s body (replacing Chernabog’s head), and of course in the Theraprism room, we see him next to Kronos. While this is the famous painting of Saturn eating his son and while that painting is often referred to as a depiction of Kronos, it’s important to note that this is Disney we’re talking about here and the only major film considered canon within the Disney Universe regarding Greek Mythology is Hercules. In the movie Hercules, it’s villain Hades has fiery blue hair and happens to be the son of Kronos, he also can manipulate blue flames at will. You know who else has been shown to do that? Bill Cipher.
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Could this means there is a possible connection between Bill Cipher and Hades? It’s important to note that Hades appears very different from the other Gods, they all glow whereas he does not, they don’t have any elemental design to them whereas he does. It begs the question if the powers of Hades came from Bill Cipher himself and it ended up changing his appearance. Perhaps Bill saved Hades from Kronos and a deal was made, perhaps Bill is the reason why Hades became a villain in the first place. I know this is a major stretch but in my mind, I feel as if this isn’t coincidental. I always felt as if Bill had some sort of connection to the Disney Canon Universe and technically he does. There have been references to him in DuckTales which is part of the Donald Duck universe which by extension is part of the Mickey Mouse universe which connects to the overall Disney universe.
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