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posting my low quality messy ivti sketches bc alnst fanartists are what has been keeping me going
#ivantill#alien stage#alnst#alnst fanart#alien stage fanart#ivantill fanart#never render#ivan x till#who is gonna be the till to my ivan#on god#loverboy ivan#twink till realness#boys loving boys fr
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im feeling so sick guys im unwell fr R7 till vs luka is going to fucking kill me, ill be deader than ivan
IS MY BABY CRYING OR SWEATING I CANT IC ANNTNNN
theyre making luka listen to his own heartbeat (not to mention it looks ?? not normal????) - hes going to hear his own heart stop beating, isnt he
#i feel like its gonna be luka whos going to die if tthey dont get saved or interrupted otherwise but god#I LOVE THEM ALL I DONT WANT MORE TO DIE PLEASE#in all honesty i think i would actually fucking break down if till dies#i love them all sm but till would rlly end me hes my baby#pls ivan already hurt me#babbles#tbd#alnst tag
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Just thought about how it’s possible one of the reasons Ivan was so obedient was to avoid being taken away from Till…
#he’s the only one who can unlock till’s collar………….#i’m gonna be sick#why does my brain do this#alien stage#alnst#alien stage ivan#alnst ivan#alien stage till#alnst till#alien stage ivantill#alnst ivantill#ivantill#ivanttakethis shut up about ivan challenge: impossible#ivanttakethis talks too much
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I go from not drawing for months to being hit with inspiration at midnight when I'm supposed to be studying and furiously sketching like a man possessed
#my art#cherry doodles#alnst#alien stage#SO HEAR ME OUT#ALNST ALICE IN WONDERLAND AU#this has probably already been done but WHO CARES#so we got mad hatter hyuna in a pirate queen aesthetic#who has tea parties with rabbit mizi#we got fake ass smile shit eating grin ivan who fcks around with alice till#alice till who spotted rabbit mizi and fell in love and followed her down the rabbit hole#and of course we have the trigger happy crazy red queen luka#whos chopping off heads left and right#and has History with mad hatter hyuna#and then finally we got caterpillar sua#who has literally zero fucks to give unless your name starts with an m and ends with izi#anyways sua's design im imagining more of a butterfly-jellyfish design instead of caterpillar#very puffy and flowy#i rlly wanna put till in a dress but i think ill put him in those effeminate/young boy type of aristocratic clothes#luka is full-on brat girl queen clothes#im a little stuck on ivan's clothes bc i feel like his is gonna end up the most boring of the cast so im thinking more on it#i think i might go with that black butler type of gothic style for him#i wanna keep his design relatively clean but not too bland
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hey so um. finished round 7. what the fuck.
#AND IN A BLINK GONE#TILL NOO OH MY GOD#TILL IS AIVE#PLEASE#i want luka executed NOW#but hes so pretty....#die#alien stage#alnst#you have ruined me#and mizi's expressions thruout the entire thing.........oh I'm gonna be sick#the song is fire though !#AND IN A BLINK GONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥#lets not even talk abt how blondie turned into homotron 9000.#and his face hwne he saw hyuna again???/ ho my god ????#this can't be the end#pleaseee vivinos make more oh my god pelwase i need to see the aftermath#or like a really long comic SOMEHTING ANYTHING PELWASE#alien stage till#alien stage ivan#alien stage luka#alien stage mizi#alnst ivan#alnst till#alnst luka#alnst mizi#ivantill#hyuluka#idek who else to tag#alien stage fans find me please
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OH HELL NAH LUKA YOU DID NOT
#alien stage#alnst#alnst luka#alnst till#alien stage: final#alien stage spoilers#alnst spoilers#blink gone#actually i can believe luka would do this my manipulative fave hehe#the people who were like 'luka is def gonna bring up ivan's death somehow' were right but THIS RIGHT?? THIS IS FOUL
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You know who these losers remind me of?
THESE MFS
#surely yall see it#i have nvr seen a more ivan character in my life#and grumpy will go brrrr ehehe#anime rec#call me the fandom reviver the way i be recruiting ppl into niche media#PLS WATCH IT#I CANT BE ALONE#I HAVE SO MANY IDEAS#anywayssss#mask danshi#mask danshi this shouldnt lead to love#i think i fucked this up on the first one oopsie daisy#alnst#alien stage#ivantill#alnst ivan#alnst till#OMFG WHOS RDY FOR R7#(not me im gonna be inconsolable for weeks)#Day 252 of hiding from my friends#yall it might be a triple post kinda day#i just watched 2 anime back to back#and i have#THOUGHTS
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I'm itching to see how Till will be acting in round 7 (if we even get one). Till was in quite a state in r6, quiet, subdued, not his usual self y'know. Ivan died (he didn't) and if Ivan is still someone Till holds close to his heart as I theorize, and the fact that Mizi is gone, and the fact that he is even alive in the world of Alien stage just think how much worse his state of mind will be. I can only imagine him being worse than Mizi was in R5. Unresponsive, completely broken down and hopeless, not even Luka can snap him out of it enough to hit him or something, because at this point he's seriously sick of it so he won't fall for it anymore and he'll carve his own exit out of this hellhole,
but it'd also be fun if he went the exact opposite direction and snap and go back to his old self (like in R2) but even worse. Unresponsive, but in the way that he just doesn't listen, unapproachable, violent(?), and restraints galore. Luka himself might not even want to get close. Till would be so done with it all that he would either 'mad dog' his way to certain death or win the competition with the sheer intensity he'll give off (and maybe he'll scream in our ears once again this time)
#and so is the daily ramble#alien stage#alnst till#alien stage till#alnst#Till is either gonna blow a fuse because of Ivan's death or become Ivan the bastard himself and just not give a shit anymore#also wouldnt it be nice if he surives round 7 in one of these states and if mizi gets to save him he'll have a moment of silence and break#down because this isn't who he is#SO MANY POSSIBILITIES#but i hope till screams in my ear if he bites the dust#vivinos
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GIVING THEM A FLOWER CROWN!~ ♪
notes: aha… not my normal content! The alien stage brainrot has gotten to me and there is NOTHING for this fandom 😭
characters: Mizi, Sua, Till, Ivan, Luka, Hyuna
warnings: light curing, cringe but who gaf, not proofread
You carefully weaved the red flower stems together, fingers gently tugging on the petals to perfectly secure the crown. You examined your work, satisfied with the quality of your labor. You got up from the grassy shade you were sitting under and looked around for your s/o, whom you finally found in the cafeteria, sitting alone in a secluded corner munching on something to their liking.
Her eyes immediately brighten when seeing you hehe
She stands up from her spot and slams her hands onto the table
“Y/N! Guess what!! They’re letting me have sweets!! It’s just this once but still! Would you like some?”
To which you happily nod your head, letting her feed you a spoonful of strawberry shortcake.
“Isn’t it good? Ugh it’s amazing!” Mizi sighs happily, licking the frosting of her spoon.
“Everything all good though?”
You fiddle with the petals behind your back, slightly nervous.
“Well, I have something for you, close your eyes!”
Mizi goes ‘😲’ to ‘😊’
She patiently waits for you give present her with whatever it is
You place the delicate crown onto her awaiting soft hands.
She blinks open her eyes and a bright smile adorns her pretty lips
“I- For me?! Really?! Oh wow!! It’s so pretty!” She gasps excitedly, her index finger hovering over the red petals barely touching the soft skin.
“How did you know these were my favorites?!” Mizi asked eyes wide
“Heh, well you’ve mentioned it to probably anyone who would listen, and they are the only flowers that grow freely in here,” You giggle, which a soft blush coats her cheeks.
She whispers a soft “oh..!” 😮
You took the crown and place it on top of her pink hair
“So pretty, my princess,” you teased lovingly
She thinks something happened by the way you just speed past everyone straight to her lmao
“..Where you looking for me? Sorry, I should’ve told you where I was headed,” Sua softly said, wiping the corners of her mouth politely.
“Everything alright?”
To which you wave her off, saying simply ‘I just needed to see you,’ which makes her feel all mushy n’ loved ><
“Now! Close your eyes,” you playfully demand, which Sua obeys.
You take her hands and hold them out open for the crown
And then placed your creation in her palms
“Okay- open now!”
Sua blinks her eyes, surprised at the sudden gift, a soft smile settles on her lips
“It’s so very pretty, y/n, thank you,” Sua beams, placing it upon her head.
“How do I look?” She asks
You look BEAUTIFUL Sua 🥹
You smile back at her, “Stunning as ever! Red is such a pretty color on you Sua.”
She then places a soft kiss on your cheek.
“I’m afraid I don’t have anything else to give you in return, I hope this will suffice for now,” Sua cheekily whispered.
“Yeah, that took a lot of my time and energy so I’m gonna need a few moreeeee 😏”
Currently gouging little sandwiches down his throat lmao
He was scarfing it down like a starved man probably was ☹️
You’re unsure if he hears you or is simply in sandwich heaven because he isn’t responding to you calling his name ‘Till, Till, Till, TILL?? TILL?!?”
“TILL?” You almost yelled, tapping him
His head frantically shot up and distraughtly began choking and coughing.
Which you’re freaking out bc you though you just killed him somehow
You aggressively pat his back, flower crown long forgot on the floor lmao
His coughing fit calms down, and a tear slips down his red face.
Just kill him now, he CANNOT look you in the eye after you just witnessed that
“Till?? Are-Are you okay?? Sorry- I didn’t mean to, scare you? Are you okay?” You awkwardly rub his back
“Fine.” He grunts out
He awkwardly clears his throat, fixing his gaze on the floor
“So um, didja uh, need anything..? Or something?”
“Oh yeah! Um, well I have you something, if that’s okay,”
Till blushed at the thought that you cared enough to give a gift to him
“Okay! Close you eyes!” You beamed
you bent down and picked up the crown.
He thought of every possible outcome it could be- his imagination likes the idea that the gift was a kiss >.<
Which has Till beet red, awaiting for a kiss that never came
“Alright- open your eyes!”
He peeled open his eyes, settling them on the flower headpiece you made
He was unsure what you had meant by this
Like?? You want me to wear it?
“What do you think? Hm?” You peered
“Y-you made this for me eh?” He awkwardly asked
You nodded as he took the crown from your hands and gave it a good look
“It’s very, ah, pretty..? Thank you y/n,” he gave a smile to you, putting the crown on the table
You softly frowned. “You’re not going to wear it?”
Oh Till wish he would have just shut his mouth-
“WHAAT? No!! Of course I am?! What the hell are you talking about!?” He scrambled to find something to say to make you happy again
Till aggressively put the crown on top of his head
“S-SEE?!” Till nervously yelled, causing a few heads to turn
You giggled at his reaction, oh he was so cute :3
“I’m glad you like it Till, mwah” you placed a gentle kiss on the corner of his mouth
Till rn: 😳😦
Basically he’s broken yk
“Okay- I’m leaving now byeeeee!~” knowing what you just did left him a mess
“Out looking for me so soon?” He teased
“Oh hush would you,” you playfully snapped back, sitting beside him.
Ivan curiously leaned to see what you were hiding behind your back-
Which you leaned back further so he couldn’t heh
“Abababa!- No peeking, you’ll see soon enough,” you grin
Ivan dramatically sighs and sits back, waiting for what you’ll do next
You exhale “Alrighty, close you eyes,”
Which Ivan did as you told
After a few times of peeking his eye open to annoy you just a bit
You grabbed his hands and opened them flat, and then put down the crown upon them.
Ivan opened his eyes and made a ‘:o’ face
He moved the crown around, looking at all of the intricate braidings you did
“..It’s lovely, thank you y/n,” Ivan grinned
He installed it on top of his head, making sure it’s secure.
“Now, did you make this all special for me?” He coyly asked, already knowing the damn answer 🙄
You scoffed, you felt your face warming up at his teasing
“You’re so annoying..”
Ivan rn: :3
“Yes stupid, I made it just for you, because I love you. Happy with that answer?” You mocked lovingly.
Ivan was kinda caught off guard at your honest answer tbh
His face was dusted with a glowing crimson, and eyes slightly widened
“Mn, good,” he softly smiled “I love you too,”
He pressed a soft kiss to your hand and offered to make you a crown in return :)
(Luka + Hyuna’s parts doesn’t take place in Anakt Garden 🗣️)
He was aware of you nervously tip-toeing around him, and he was rather curious to what you’ve been hiding
“So, what is it hm? What is it you don’t you want me to see?”
And you were kinda like ?!
You thought you were being sneaky, huh
“Well ah, I’m not hiding anything-“ “Really?” “Nope,” “Then why are you so nervous, hm?” Luka continued to press
He was soo annoying like this, ugh
You sighed, leaving the room for a moment and returning with something behind your back
Luka’s brows raised expectantly
“I wasn’t sure if you’d like it so ah,” you fiddled with the crown nervously.
Luka could be very condescending and belittle your feelings, and just be a jerk yk
Which was a totally valid reason to be scared to give him a gift you made!
“It’s silly but um, here, I made this for you,” you said handing him the flower crown
Luka’s expression was unreadable, which kinda stressed you out more
Luka placed the crown on his head, “What do you think, hm?” He asked
“It’s rather suiting for the prince, don’t you think?” He mused, his purple fingers tucking a piece of your hair out of your face.
“My star, don’t be shy to spoil me with gifts, I won’t reject you y’know”
You all felt silly and embarrassed :> heh
“..mm right,”
“When did you even have time to make this?” He asked curiously
“Well, my ‘owner’ is less strict then yours,” you scoffed “I’ve been bringing good money n’ popularity with my photoshoots and other gigs . It apparently values ‘self expression’ , heh, so it let me wander a bit.”
Luka hummed in acknowledgement, continuing to play with you hair
“I’ll get you something pretty next time,”
She was like all stressed out because the gang was supposed to have already left the area and you weren’t anywhere to be seen
She’s looking around everywhere for you, and Aliens and androids are starting to figure out what was happening- a raid
Right before she’s about to go rouge and take the motorcycle
She sees you running towards her 🙏 Which she lets out the deepest sigh out ever
She takes your hands and drags you into the jeep
Dewey slams the gas and everyone speeds off, luckily without anyone being caught
Nooow… as for what happens when you guys get back at base
She so pissed LMAOO
I mean she has every right to be upset, you done fked up dawg 🧍♀️
She scolding you for going off the plan and wandering off- especially during a raid!!
“What the hell were you thinkin’ huh?! What if they caught you? You wanna be forced back into that life?! Hyuna yelled, gripping onto your shoulders
You could only try to defend why you did it, but it would only fall to deaf ears
You knew she was right, and what you did was stupid- but you haven’t seen those kinds of flowers in what seemed like forever!
They were like a strange comfort, an odd memory of ‘home’
You also could see how overwhelmed Hyuna was by everything recently, the main plan was getting ready to be in motion
You thought you could give her the flowers, hopefully brightening her mood somehow.
“I really am sorry Hyuna, I just had to get it!” “Get what? Get what hah?” Hyuna pressed
You sighed and pulled out the squished flower crown from your bag
Hyuna’s eyes slightly widened as she watched you
“I found them, the flowers from the garden,” You paused. “‘Made it for you, Hyuna,”
She paused, slowly taking the crown and touching the petals,
He shook her head softly.
“You’re ridiculous you know that,” she scoffs, her lips curling into a soft grin
“Unbelievable, really, no sane person literally risks their life for flowers, babes,”
You smile “Heh, I don’t think anyone here is sane,”
She leaned forward to place a lingering kiss onto your forehead
“I really am sorry yun’,” You whispered
“It’s done now, please don’t do that again though. I can’t do this without you y/n,” She smiled at you
“I don’t think I’ve seen these since we left? I didn’t even know they grew out here!” Hyuna laughed
erm sorry for the cringe .. 🧍♀️ also sorry for the shortness of Mizi’s + Sua’s 😭 I had a brainfart w/ them
Made Nov 6th 2024
#merlucide#alien stage#alien stage x reader#alnst luka#ivan x reader#alnst till#alnst ivan#alnst#alnst x reader#Mizi x reader#Sua x reader#Till x reader#luka x reader#hyuna alnst#hyuna alien stage#mizi#till#alienstage#ruler of my heart#Hyuna x reader#fluff
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If the HSR characters were self aware and they can hear everything well I bet my team is sick of hearing Ruler of my heart, Unknown (Till the end) and Cure on loop whenever farming for Aventurines materials. I'm sorry Kafka, Black swan,Ruan Mei and Bailu but Round 6 has sent me into a spiral of emotions. And I don't think any of the characters appreciate that I keep rambling about Ivan and Till, School Bus Graveyard and Aventurine (why him out of all the hsr cast? No idea, apparently I'm what one would call down bad for him.)
Kafka: Well well Elio could never predict this, it's not in the script yet it's here.
Ruan Mei: Maybe I could form a new life form with the rhythm of this music.
Black Swan: About to peer into my memories to find out who's Ivan and Till, what's this school bus graveyard and why I keep talking about a certain blonde gambler.
Bailu: Busy keeping the team alive.
The characters are also not happy one bit that they technically don't have free will so urm they can't really stop the music from playing unless they somehow access my Spotify or music app- (maybe the music lovers enjoy it so like they will try learn the chords of the song, I can see Serval trying to learn the chords for Unknown Till The End.)
But more importantly is if the music was still playing during the story or during the story quest well it would make things so much worse because imagine you're talking to the Trailblazer but both you and the Trailblazer keep hearing the same music on repeat in your heads. Very distracting and irritating right? Especially Sunday, Dr Ratio and Aventurine for that part of the 2.1 story quest.
Sunday trying to speak when all the sudden they hear this "흔들리는 paradigm" and they know aw fuck their gonna hear this for their whole ass conversation in this room together. This is how I imagine it's going:
Aventurine: Haha now that I think about it. This song has such a nice melody right doc?
Dr Ratio: You better stop talking, gambler. This song has given me a migraine from how many times it's been played like a broken record over and over again. You're not helping with your small talk.
Sunday: Trying to use the harmony to block out the music but low and behold it's not working.
It doesn't help if mid way through the quest they hear someone screaming/rambling like a madman about a particular two people called Ivan and Till. Who the fuck are these people and why do you keep talking about them?! Why are they even making you cry?! And what do you mean one of these many songs they hear is a song performed by these two. If the characters ever got access to my Pinterest it's over when they see my recent searches have Ivan and Till along with school bus graveyard.
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(Just gonna copy-paste the thread here)
One thing that's kind of going through my head is what I've heard is in the recent patreon post. To Till, Mizi is his god, his kind salvation, while Ivan is someone he feels a range of love and hate and deep emotions
In other words, the unrealized ivantill truthers are right; Till did love Ivan, but the love was mixed with hatred, complicated painful emotions. With Mizi, it wasn't the same kind of love, I suppose more shallow, but in a safer, less painful way. A distant kind salvation.
Shallow is kind of the wrong word to use here though, it's not that they don't have a connection. They very much were friends, as shown in the mizitill scene in the end of round 7. But while his love for Mizi cradles his heart, Ivan's pierces and threatens to consume it.
So, while he did have a connection with Ivan, that connection wasn't as safe. Mizi was his god, not because he was closer, but because she was the figure of light that shined in his dark world, an idol he could worship and feel happy worshiping.
So. Ivan was someone he felt a range of emotions about, sweet and bitter, painful and kind. But more of the bitter, more of the painful. It really does make sense, Ivan doesn't emote normally, his kindest, tenderest moments were when Till wasn't looking.
But despite that, Till still cared. He didn't see everything, but it's not as though he was always turning his head. There were plenty of times Till cares and Ivan had his head turned, like when Till was hesitant about going back to anakt, but all Ivan saw was Till's leaving him.
It isn't that Ivan was in love and Till loved someone else, it's that they both cared, but could never find a way to bridge the gap. Ivan could never show his love in a way Till understood, and so Till could never feel safe putting his emotions in Ivan's hands.
And so, round 6 was Ivan trying one last time to show his love, but just as always, it was damaging, and Till couldn't truly understand it. (We all have to understand, kissing as romance really isn't something in the alnst world, as a certain comic explains.)
So, now we get to round 7. We all saw how Luka pretended to be Ivan to make Till despair, and that seeing Mizi again made Till break free and smile again but in a way that spelled his doom. I really think that encapsulates his whole deal honestly.
Because, the love he has for Mizi was doomed from the start, for several reasons. And, I kind of think he knew that on some level. The obvious thing is Sua being Mizi's god, but there's also the 'shallowness' I mentioned above.
Mizi was someone he cared about, certainly a friend, and he liked her in a certain way, but it was a comfortable love. A love he felt good about. And, certainly the love he felt was real. But the /connection/ they had would never be as strong as what he could have had with Ivan.
However, in Round 7, he had no time to process how he felt about Ivan's death, no time to process the feelings unrealized that now would never have a name. And Luka's manipulation took advantage of that turmoil. The mimicry of the kiss directly mocked it.
I agree with what a different user said, that what Luka takes advantage of isn't love, but loss. But, what is grief but love persevering? And what do you call it when you don't understand that it was love after all, what is it that perseveres?
That lost connection, that never truly blossomed and stayed sheltered in its bud, is what Luka was mocking. "Remember these sensations, remember what happened to this person? Remember the person who died in front of your eyes? What's in your head now? What do you feel now?"
Honestly, the question Luka is asking to provoke him is the same one we all have: Who was that person to Till? Sua was Mizi's god and love, Till is Ivan's love and obsession, but what was Ivan to Till? Come to think of it, that may be why we only see a flashback of the kiss.
Because the question asked is, "What do you feel about this?", but Till's head definitely isn't in the right place to think about it. He's blocking out any thoughts of what it might be, but the question itself makes Till pained enough for the provocation to have worked.
And, just in time for Till to not have to think about it. Just when he almost had to think about his complicated bond with Ivan, Mizi appeared, his god, his salvation. He smiled, not thinking of the question at all. Which is why Luka was upset, Till ignored the question.
But, in the end, that shallow connection wasn't enough; if he had sang with that deep connection in mind, he might have conveyed something that was enough to win points. But he sang with something more shallow in mind, something that wouldn't earn enough points. So he died.
#that is my twitter. ive been there a lot recently so feel free to follow lol#braincell posting#alnst#alien stage#alien stage meta#alnst meta#till alien stage#till alnst#alnst till#ivantill#mizitill
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ok so u know in round 1 & 6, sua and ivan are dressed in white (most likely meanign like. Wedding wear..,,) (aka like. Confessing they lovef🔥)
and sua & till are dressed in black (like funeral wear) (like they. Are gonna see someone. DIE(
ssoooo. ,,, in the round 7 trailer,,,
luka wears white & till wears black 🙏🔥
(u can tell whos who by them. Fuckass fingers)
ok so basically ,luka will die thanks for coming to my ted talk
#pls lord strike this blonde down#alien stage#alnst#alien stage round 7#alnst round 7#alien stage ivan#alnst ivan#alien stage sua#alnst sua#alien stage luka#alnst luka#alien stage till#alnst till#ivantill#mizisua#technically
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So because I'm not normal about them I kind of wanted to look at a specific page of this comic:
Buckle up this is gonna get long
I think it's very interesting that Till isn't in his own art piece, to start with, but also how this scene is portrayed. Throughout the 4nakt Garden pages you see a different side to Till. The side where you get an idea about how serious music is to him and how deeply he loves it (maybe even because it's one of the last connections to his mom that he has). You see how deeply he loves to create in the way he draws. Almost as if he wants to leave pieces of himself behind, to show he was in this world and that he had lived.
In his biggest artwork, while he's not in it, the other 4nakt are a centerpiece of it. You have Mizi (she's a bit more detailed and so a bit more noticeable right off the bat) underneath the tree, wind blowing through her hair and it feels very free. Like she could do anything, be anyone, lead everyone around her.
Behind her is Sua at a slight distance which we've never seen before. Where Mizi is, Sua will always follow, but here she seems to hang back. She's not showing movement as if she means to follow like Ivan who's walking.
Now, Ivan is separate from the other two, but he's walking forward with what feels like intent to me. Who knows what he's up to or where he's going. We just know he's moving forward. But this is often how Till felt about Ivan anyway. Till has always said he doesn't understand Ivan; Has even called him annoying lol but it's the gap between the 3 that has me curious.
Maybe Till was wondering if that was where he should be. Maybe I'm delusional because he was consistent in his affection for Mizi (whether it be seeing her as his god or just having a boy crush) but I'm thinking about the way he hesitated in the meteor scene. I'm always thinking about the meteor scene it's my roman empire.
What if Till isn't in the piece because he doesn't know where to be. Is he moving forward with Ivan or staying behind with Sua to always be behind Mizi but not dare to be near her? What if this piece holds his slight confusion.
He hesitated before leaving Ivan behind in the meteor scene. Art portrays the emotions of the artist is what I've been told and Till is at his core very emotional. Till feels with his entire being. And that has always seeped into his work whether it be songs or sketches. Examples: drawing Mizi on his music sheets, drawing Ivan on the Cure lyrics after he died. A mixture of music and the things he's thinking or feeling in that moment.
Now, I'm sorry to be delusional it's my fatal flaw
But in the scene where we get to see the finished work it says that the 'product' was not left to be lonely and Mizi is clearly in front of him but he's not interacting with her; he's interacting with Ivan. This page that's putting emphasis on Till not being lonely does have the people he cares for in his art and Mizi does have a clear place in that, but physically he's hanging back with Ivan.
Everything is always a bit too late with those two but maybe Till had finally made a choice to walk forward with Ivan.
Anyway thanks for reading my delusional take on ivantill
#ivantill#alnst friday#alnst#alnst ivan#alnst till#just thoughts but like a lot of them#cause im not normal about them
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okay the more i watch the videos the more i realize something about alien stage. when i first saw my clematis by ivan and till i thought it was going to be ivan as sua and till as mizi because i thought they mirrored each other but i was wrong and it was ivan as mizi and till as sua. i thought the mirroring was through sacrificing self to save the other but it wasnt just like that. mizi was the one worshiping sua, all the thing mizi does is for sua even in the my clematis it is shown that if sua didnt catch mizi's attention she wasnt singing. she was refusing to sing until she saw sua. sua became the universe itself for mizi she was her god. all she did was for sua. thats why shes the one doing the monologue middle of the song.
for ivan and till its ivan. ivan didnt care for anything and his closeness to luka shaped him more into just a doll to entertain the aliens but when he met till things changed for ivan. the person who was only trying to survive learned more than just surviving. till became his universe. his god. thats why hes the one doing the monologue in the song.
the difference here is sua also saw mizi as her universe and was ready to sacrifice herself for her because she knew both of them living is not possible in their world. mizi believed in her god but sua knew the reality since she is shown to just play by the alien's rules because she knows if she doesnt she will die. thats exactly what she did in the clematis. she broke the rules she followed all her life for her universe.
in the other side ivan's feelings were one-sided. all till saw was mizi. ivan knew this. that wasnt the first time and after seeing mizi missing ivan knew till wasnt gonna try to win. he couldnt let that happen. he couldnt see his universe crumble in front of him. so he did what he could. after the disappearance of mizi, ivan knew they wouldnt leave it to chance and just kill him if he tried to 'kill' his opponent. so he choked till to save him.
both couples mirror each other but not only with each other. with hyuna and luka too. which i will get into it later.
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But after that kiss in round 6, do you think Till will still see Ivan as just a friend?
Oh boy, now isn't this a tough one?
Now, in my opinion, I do think Till will think of him as just a friend despite the kiss.
It's just that the title 'friend' is accompanied by this heavy weight of realizing Ivan was in love with him the entire time. That he had gone and died for him.
And see, this is where I might differ from the majority of the people. But the main factor is, I dont think that at this point in the story, Till should be in love with anyone.
Till's mental state relied on Mizi and her existance to an unhealthy degree. This is to say, he was not stable on his own.
And it shattered when he found out she had gone missing. He was desperate for the ideal that he had associated her with, and thus lost that ideal when he lost her.
If Till even starts to see Ivan as someone he love, it would break him even furthur. He would brcome even more of a shell of who he was.
But that's not the question, is it?
The question is if Till sees Ivan as more than a friend after the kiss.
Well my answer would be;
It's complicated
Till loved Mizi as an idea. An ideal. He loved her because she was the opposite of what he hated.
But with Ivan, he had a friendship with him. It's clear from comic interactions that the two were closer than Ivan's POV led us to believe.
And it's definite that Till cares about Ivan, even if he might not be neccesarily in love with him. He might think of Ivan as naive and annoying and even a bit of a bully. But he still never pushed Ivan away when he clung to him, and even entertained his ideas.
Till would probably think about what could of been and what would have happened if he and Till had been in love, like Mizi and Sua were. But he would need to take some time to build himself, before he even considers the possibility of being in love with Ivan.
I do think there is a chance that Till could have had some deep feelings for Iavn that may be akin to romantic feelings. But that's not what's gonna matter to him the most.
To Till, the death will be more memorable than the kiss. The way that Ivan looked at him before he died will be what he remembers.
TLDR; Its complicated. Till might think about what could have been, but I think he'll be more focused on "He loved me enough to die for me" than the "Could we have been more?". Its gonna be a lot of him processing Ivan as a person, and a small bit of 'what-ifs'.
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Omg, Vivinos uploaded this picture yesterday and that makes me think that the next video is right around the corner.
Ofc, I don't think they're gonna show immediately round 7 but focus more on Luka and Hyuna's relationship first. Ofc we got some clips of their childhood in "All-in" and in the little comics Vivinos posts once in a while, but I believe they need to show us a clearer view of what actually happened. Yes, (spoiler warning) I'm refering to that incident with Hyuna's brother obviously and, yes, I do believe he's dead dead. However, I can't find myself agreeing that Luka killed him…I JUST CAN'T GUYS. Like, no, he's not a little yandere who wants Hyuna all to himself, I think there's way more to his character than that. Maybe his methods of getting what he wants are a little bit problematic (I'm looking at you "Ruler of my heart" mv), however, I feel he has good intentions for doing what he did (I'm mostly talking about his trying to get on Mizi's nerves in order to start beating him and, then eventually for Hyuna to come to her rescue…yes, in my opinion, it was kinda planned by them beforehand- or I could be wrong- Luka getting surprised about Hyuna's sudden appearance and actually having attempted to get Mizi trapped/killed by the aliens). Additionally, I have to question myself WHY would he kill Hyuna's brother in the first place. They must have been a little close too and clearly Hyuna and her brother couldn't be romantically (right? RIGHT.) . Yes, I know I can't expect them to have the same (or even any) morals with the humans who lived on Earth, but…AAAAAAA, idk 😭.
That's the problem actually, the more we analyse it the more will we realise that we know almost nothing about their backstory. Everything could be interpreted differently if you look at each perspective. Maybe Luka isn't a bad guy with just his methods being questionable or, on the other hand, he maybe crazy and one of the villians. I DON'T WANT to believe that. I want to believe that sth more is behind what happened between him and Hyuna's brother and that it was all just a misunderstanding.
Btw, I'm also looking forward to round 6's aftermath. Not just Ivan dying ofc…but Till's full reaction over this. I'm looking for some of his character development maybe…? Like, from his viewpoint, Till thought Ivan was a guy who was just "obsessed" with him and maybe he considered him a kind of a creep (even though deep down I think he regarded him as his friend), however -come on- how oblivious can he be? Ivan literally died for him. JUST LOOK AT TILL'S SURPRISE/ DEVESTATED FACE when he realised what Ivan had done. That makes me wait for him to realise how much he cared about him and, idk, start to develop feelings for him now and even ackowledging that he can't ever have Mizi or/and that he doesn't love her that way anymore? IDK, I just want the next video to be uploaded so baddd. Hehe, a Luka and Hyuna duet would be very much appreciated STUDIO LICO.
Also, what are your guys' specualtions about the next video?? I'm really looking forward to reading your opinions
#alien stage#alnst ivan#alnst till#alnst sua#alnst mizi#alnst luka#alnst hyuna#fan theory#i'm normal i promise#music#youtube#alnst#ivantill#mizisua#alien stage till#alien stage ivan#alien stage sua#alien stage mizi#alien stage luka#alien stage hyuna#relatable#angst#idk why I put so many tags#vivinos#alien stage round 6#alien stage round 7
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