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I finally posted something on my main socials in vocal support of Palestine, outlining the history and violence of the Nakba, listing various sources including many anti-zionist Jewish voices.
I got one comment, from a woman I went to college with, who is Jewish, and who moved to Israel after Trump was elected.
Her response was pretty much what I expected. She said it seems like my only point is that the Israelis deserve the violence and had it coming, that I'm spewing revisionist history, asking where my essays about Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and so on are, and that I'm writing all of this from the safety of America, which is a country that is "worse than Israel by every metric" and she ends with telling me to fuck off.
So yeah, pretty much what I expected, if not a little weak sauce?
Like, it is not revisionist to tell the history of the Nakba. 750,000 people displaced, 15k killed, 500 villages destroyed. It's not revisionist to talk about the massacre of Kafr Qasim where Israeli police killed 48 unarmed civilians, 23 of which were children and the youngest was 8 years old, and then an officer responsible for the murders was put in charge of "Arab Affairs" in a nearby city. It's not revisionist to say Israel funded and supported Hamas to crush secular progressive movements in Gaza. Those things happened. It is well documented. They happened. They did. You can Google it and it will be the first result you see. And these things have continued to happen ever since.
I've been vocal for years about how it's fucked that America killed a quarter of a million Afghans, how Obama bombed the middle east so much that children in these countries grew to fear says with a clear sky, because the drones could fly on those days. I've talked about Yemen and Syria, I've talked about how AMERICAN influence made all of these situations worse. I've talked about Saudi Arabia and how they murdered an American journalist and nothing was done about it, but the reason THIS gets an essay right now is because it feels like we are witnessing genocide in real time, and most of the people in this country seem fine with it.
And like. "You're sitting there safely in a country worse than Israel."
Ma'am, idk what to tell you, you chose to move from America to Israel. Dunno what to tell you there. Otherwise, I HAVE BEEN VOCALLY CRITICAL OF THE USA FOR YEARS. I've openly said that the CIA, the industrial war complex, and American capitalism, has been the single greatest source of evil and suffering on the globe in the modern era. Like, I hate American government, politics, and the influence we have on the globe. We ARE the evil empire! WE'RE the baddies! I've been saying this for AGESSSSS.
IDK guys. I just gotta spew my feelings out here so I don't pop off to her. I have my sympathies for her, because she moved to flee from Trump and to ensure her mother had the healthcare she needs to live. She's married and now has a baby, she lives in Haifa. I understand why she's angry and defensive, I fully sympathize with how scary it must be for her.
But like. That doesn't change history. It doesn't change the fact that zionist military forces violently forced people out of the city of Haifa and cleared it for new Israelis. I've wondered, how old is the building she lives in? Did Palestinians live there once before her? I've never said the Israeli civilians "had this coming" but this situation IS a ticking time bomb, which is what leftist voices have been saying for ages.
She also said "we've offered peace and they never take it!" Iirc Israel hasn't actually met to negotiate with Palestinians for like a decade?? And like. WHAT HAVE YOU OFFERED?! "Hey guys, stop resisting us and we promise to stop taking your land and bulldozing your homes. I know we already did that like 70 years ago and completely ignored the borders we, Israel, agreed to, but believe us! We'll for sure hold up our end of the bargain this time! Also no we still want to have an ethnostate and we still want to treat you as second class citizens." WHAT PEACE OFFERINGS???
She said "you haven't offered any solutions!" I'm not here to offer the perfect solution for peace in the middle east, I'm here to say genocide is wrong, I'm here to elevate the voices of Palestinians and anti-zionist Jews. You already had the bones of a "two state solution" when the UN carved up the land, and Israel didn't respect that (not that it was great to begin with). And honestly, if you say "I kinda think a single secular state where everyone gets equal rights regardless of religion or ethnicity" you will get crucified??
Anyway. I'm just ranting at this point. I knew I'd get blow back for speaking out, but it honestly wasn't as bad as I expected.
I just hearted her comment and will reply later, though idk if she'll see it, since she promptly unfriended me. Also unsurprising.
Anyway, free Palestine
#personal#free Palestine#I've had positive reactions to the post but hers in the only comment#i just can't support militant zionism and i won't#i do think it's hilarious that she actually went the route of “what about” everything else#when I've literally been fighting friends family and strangers about these exact things for like a decade#me sitting here with my Jewish partner#who also vocally supports Palestine#but yeah#we're just hating to hate
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very happy Matt decided to clarify his stance on the genocide of the Palestinian people rn. Pretty unhappy with the way he worded it, who he centered in his video, and disappointed to see the responses to it on Twitter.
kinda scared to even post about it bc CR fans can get so defensive about their favorite white people that they can often leave little room for criticism or nuance. but man I have thoughts.
#lemme just say. if you have a public platform that has set a precedent for philanthropic work. messages of positivity and love.#and have called attention to various political and social conflicts *in stream*. & whose employees and cast members are vocal#on socials about political topics#then it is NOT unreasonable for fans to expect them to address one of the deadliest orchestrated conflicts in recent history#a literal genocide is happening. thanks in part to the US.#it is good that they donated as a company and as individuals. so good!#but to everyone saying that publicizing good deeds like donations is virtue signaling or demanding CR cast to show their support is#or that activism shouldnt be all about what you post bc then it becomes performative#are kinda missing the point. and theyre not listening to palestinians at all#a huge issue with this conflict & the way its being received in the western world - ESPECIALLY the US bc of its partnership w israel -#is the sheer amount of disgusting minsinformation and propaganda convincing ppl this genocide is either not that bad or that its necessary#everyday citizens CANNOT change foreign policy. we cant do anything!#so what have Palestinians been asking us to do?? SPREAD AWARENESS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. MAKE PEOPLE AWARE. UPLIFT PALESTINIAN VOICES. SHARE LINKS#SHOW PPL THE TRUTH.#and yes its hard! its difficult to watch what theyre going thru. but we HAVE to.#i didnt rlly like matts statement. he said he didnt have the spoons to engage in the discourse. which i get. god i get it.#but ive also seen many many creators/influencers who are also disabled or whose families are directly involved gather their spoons to help#and no one was asking CR to harm themselves in the name of helping palestine. we only wanted them to spread awareness#bc the comments on their tweet about finally donating were full of mostly white centrist takes not able to see any benefit to donating or#addressing the issue at all. which is EXACTLY why CR should addresss it. bc they can reach so many who dont understand#but theyd been radio silent for almost 5 months. i didnt like that he didnt really apologize. i didnt like that he centered himself#i didnt like his lowkey flippant language either. saying all that.. ridiculousness in regards to a genocide not well worded.#but i dont feel right holding that against him. should he have thought it through better? sure but i get it#& unfortunately his parting message left a bad taste in my mouth - one of positivity & self care & hugging each other#nice important words but it didnt feel like he was talking about ppl who are affected by this conflict. but rather ppl who are watching#it just felt like a very white thing to say in response to this. we are not burdened and easily victimized bc of it#we are responsible. and so we must center palestinians.#if i were him i wldnt have gone in detail about how hard the palestinian genocide is for me to watch.#but thats just me#*CORRECTION: radio silent for almost 4 months
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You’re totally right Tumblr doesn’t manage the for you section. But this is so fucked up
https://www.tumblr.com/elitefourkylewantstobattle/732071926522167296
Typically when things like this happen on here it is because the post (and person) were mass-reported.
Reminder that my original owlvid blog was deleted because of fatphobic weirdos spam-reporting my blog when I was making posts about BMI being made by eugenicists who wanted to make Americans look more physically imposing to other countries and that many people classified as “morbidly obese” by the scale do not have high enough levels of body fat to actually impact their health, and that BMI and similar “ideal weight” metrics don’t take the weight of muscle into account and the weight loss trend has caused millions of people to develop eating disorders throughout the years.
A video like the one posted in the link you provided is going to be controversial because zionists won’t like it and the wording used in the video is unfortunately very easy to make look antisemitic. The section of the video where the speaker started saying “this percentage of Jews think they’re smarter and better than everyone” or whatever does align dangerously with a lot of antisemitic beliefs, so because he didn’t continue to say Israelis or Israeli Jews to speak against this nationalistic culture, it makes it extremely simple for zionists to point to that and spin the entire video as being lies and antisemitic propaganda. That leads to mass-reports against it.
I don’t doubt staff has Zionist sympathizers among them simply because staff is largely if not exclusively American and it is very difficult for people in this country to access accurate information about the Israel Palestine conflict because the government sponsors so much propaganda supporting Israel and against Arabs and Muslims in general, leading to a large amount of Americans drinking the koolaid and believing Israel to be justified. However, there is also a good chance that this person and the post were mass-reported and taken down automatically because staff doesn’t always back-check to ensure someone or their posts were actually dangerous if they reach a certain threshold of reports they just terminate everything.
#Anyway#free Palestine#but also don’t phrase important information about the conflict in a way that comes off as disparaging Jews#anyone who uses zionists as an excuse to be antisemitic is just as bad as anyone using ISIS to be islamophobic#I see it a lot online and it’s incredibly dangerous because there has already been a terrifying uptick in violence against#Jews and jewish communities in a lot of countries recently#I am very happy Palestine’s plight is becoming more visible online now#but I am very cautious about how some have responded to this#because random Jews on tumblr shouldn’t get attacked or questioned by random gentiles assuming they’re zionists#and there have been little snide remarks against Jews I’ve seen on otherwise good posts about Israel that have prevented me from reblogging#Which puts me in an awkward position because I do want to be more vocally in support of Palestine on here#Because it is very important to me#but I really don’t trust a lot of the ways people speak about it#because there are a lot of people who take any excuse they can to be extremely antisemitic
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There's a certain kind of tragedy in finding out how many people in your life are massive Zionists :')
#the amount of times I've been “what about Hamas?”'d bc I support a free Palestine like what a crazy concept Hamas ALSO sucks#I'm a very staunch socialist who doesn't trust a single existing government but I'm also very vocal about supporting human rights#what makes you think I am not frothing at my mouth hearing about any sort of government committing massive violations of human rights#the rise in both antisemitism and islamaphobia is absolutely fucking unacceptable but that is not a valid reason to be pro colonialism#maybe I'm just a POC from two separate colonial countries but fucking hell colonialism is BAD and that's really just it !!!
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I have what’s going to be a really unpopular take but please just hear me out. Lately a lot of fellow Jewish bloggers on this website have (rightfully!!) been getting annoyed by random people going into their inboxes and asking if they’re Zionist, how they feel about Israel, etc. And I totally empathize with that because I’m an anti-Zionist Jew so I spend a lot of time correcting people’s assumptions that I must support Israel because I’m Jewish. Furthermore, I want Zionism to stop being seen as a central, undeniable part of being Jewish because that makes Jews like me feel pretty unwelcome. And I am aware that those asks often accuse us of dual loyalty, an antisemitic stereotype. So I’m not saying bloggers should have to answer those asks, or that they can’t get mad about them.
However, I think bloggers are wrong when they say that they can’t affect or change what happens in Israel because they’re American Jews (or otherwise diasporic, but it is almost always Americans who say this), not Israeli Jews.
Look. It’s one thing if you just don’t want to get involved (although I am totally judging you). But I can name a billion different ways American Jews have changed things in Israel, and stuff we can do right now! For example:
- protesting our tax dollars paying for weapons and bombs Israel uses to kill Palestinians, by pressuring our elected representatives, senators, and president into taking a stand against Israel
- supporting the Not on Our Dime Act, which is aiming to prohibit tax-deductible donations from being used to fund illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank
- working to change Jewish studies curriculum and summer camp + youth group programming to provide kids and students with more options than just Zionism, and a more complete + less biased education about Israel
- no tech for apartheid: Jewish Google workers protesting against Project Nimbus, which helps the Israeli government with surveillance of Palestinians
- using our position to educate people and make our opinions heard, so we don’t let Jewish Zionist organizations speak for us all and influence what gentiles think about Israel and current-day antisemitism
- I have my own opinions about the recent protests over Netanyahu’s judicial reform, but lots of American Jews supported them and they were definitely effective
- and that’s just a few of the many ways I’ve seen American Jews work towards creating real change in Israel. are we the only ones who can do this? no. but gentiles can’t shape the future of the American Jewish community, which altogether has quite a lot of influence in Israel. only we can do those things.
Saying that as American Jews our voices and actions don’t matter when it comes to Israel is actually such a weak, lame-ass excuse for refusing to take a stance for or against Israel. This isn’t something we get to be neutral about; silence equals support for Zionism.
That being said, I can’t control what individual people do. If you seriously want to refuse to support Palestine, fine. Whatever. Just please stop using “American Jews can’t help anyways!” as your excuse when that’s such a blatantly false claim.
#mercy.txt#anti zionist#jumblr#palestine#imo you can’t be Zionist and genuinely support Palestinians btw#so-called liberal Zionists do not get a free pass <3#also: this post is not about me or my belief that Zionism is morally reprehensible#however I do think that and I’m not going to hide or apologize for it. and yeah I do really judge people who are Zionist!#I am sick and tired of toning down my beliefs and ignoring my values for the sake of a peaceful community irl#and I know what happens when I’m vocally anti-Zionist & I’ve been treated awfully in the past.#so forgive me if I’m not super understanding or accepting of Zionist Jews.#I get it that the indoctrination was rly strong and people get pretty attached to Israel#but after all the stuff I’ve experienced and witnessed I’m honestly out of empathy! we should know better & I’m disappointed that we don’t.#I just don’t see how anyone can still support Israel while knowing what they do to Palestinians#and I have other issues with Zionism too but those are too complicated for tags
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Hi Cee! I hope you're doing well and sorry in advance if this is a weird question to ask because I don't follow a lot of streamers/pro players on their socials other than Twitch but I was wondering: does any notable one has been vocal about Palestine recently? (talking about it, sharing links on Instagram/Twitter etc.) I want to follow more closely and support those who do!
Sorry I don't really follow anyone on twitter or watch much twitch really but I know I've seen bogur & eskay call for blizzard to get a new VA for pharah bc she's a zionist! I'd love if other followers could lmk any other streamers or pros who are pro palestine
#this is also a reminder that zionists WILL be blocked. free palestine#Sorry that I don't know more off the top of my head though!#bc I'd really love to support people in the ow scene who vocally support palestine too
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yk thinking abt it like a hidden negative of globalisation making developing countries "complicit" in first world bullshit like e.g, not all of the caribbean islands hv starbucks si je ne me trompe pas but where i am there are lots too much so now we're complicit in funding genocide smh
#this isn't the best expression of it but like yh#n obvi it's personal responsibility to actually shop or not shop there#but there's also ppl who are employed there#idk it's a very interesting perspective#the implications#i mean our foreign affairs ministries has been rather vocal abt supporting palestine#but in this aspect#very interesting#to me anyways#cloud nonsense
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before yom hashoah ends, i want to remind folks that sephardi, maghrebi, and mizrahi jews were also deeply affected by the holocaust.
this is by no means inclusive of all communities who were affected by the holocaust and its aftermath, i do not have the emotional bandwidth for that, but hopefully this gives you some insight into jewish experiences outside of what's usually talked about.
the jews of morocco, algeria, tunisia, libya, and italy were all subjected to the racial laws of the vichy regime or fascist italy, which prevented them from attending educational institutions, holding public office, and owning businesses and sometimes property. moroccan jews were protected from some of the violence faced by other jews of the mediterranean and north africa because of the moroccan sultan mohammed ben youssef, who was vocally opposed to the anti jewish laws. he reportedly told the vichy government, "there are no jews in morocco. there are only moroccan subjects." he believed he had a god-given responsibility to protect moroccan jews. "moroccan jews are my subjects, and it is my duty to protect them against aggression."
unfortunately, other jewish communities did not receive that kind of protection. algerian jews faced a pogrom by the local arab population in constantine, killing 25 and destroying several jewish homes and businesses. 2000 algerian jews were sent to concentration camps in bedeau and djelfa, where many died from hunger, exhaustion, disease, or beatings. 5000 tunisian jews were forced into labor and detention camps where over 400 of them were killed. in libya, there was a violent pogrom which killed 500 jews out of a community of 4000. 2600 of the survivors were sent to the giado concentration camp, of which 526 died. in tunisia, there was a violent pogrom which killed over 130 jews (including 36 children), injured hundreds, and left 4000 homeless. italian jews faced pogroms, the jewish ghetto in rome was raided and over a thousand jews were detained and sent to concentration camps. a total of 7680 italian jews out of a population of nearly 45,000 were killed.
in greece, thousands of jews were deported to auschwitz. as many as 50% died en route, and only 10,000 out of over 75,000 survived, a nearly 90% death rate. their homes were looted and their property was stolen, and when the few survivors tried to return after the war (a difficult task as the greek foreign ministry attempted to delay or prevent their return to greece), most were unable to regain their property and possessions, forcing most to seek asylum in israel or other countries.
egyptian jews were not directly affected by the axis powers, but extremist organizations like young egypt and the muslim brotherhood sympathized with the nazis and even secured nazi funds to distribute thousands of antisemitic propaganda pamphlets. sporadic pogroms took place throughout the 40's, stoked by political leaders like mahmoud an-nukrashi pasha who said to the british ambassador, "all jews were potential zionists" and dr heykal pasha who said "if the u.n. decides to amputate a part of palestine in order to establish a jewish state, ... jewish blood will necessarily be shed elsewhere in the arab world ... to place in certain and serious danger a million jews." this political extremism prompted the 1948 cairo bombings that killed 70 jews and wounded 200, with many more being killed in the riots following, and eventually led to the expulsion of nearly all egyptian jews, whose money and posessions were all confiscated by the egyptian government.
similar political persecution was directed at iraqi jews, leading to the farhud, a pogrom which killed 180 jews and forced tens of thousands to flee. though there were many who did not support the nazi regime or agree with their views, there were just as many in arab countries who did, in no small part because of active effort by the nazis to gain sympathy from arab populations who already did not get along with their local jewish populations. this led to several other pogroms that took place in the 30's and 40's across lebanon, syria, and british mandate palestine, including a pogrom in jaffa which killed 9 jews and forced 12,000 jews to flee, and another in tiberias which killed 19 jews (including 11 children), most of whom were stabbed to death.
it's understandable that most of what the general public knows about the holocaust is the stories of ashkenazi jews from central and eastern europe, because they comprise the vast majority of the victims. hopefully, this encourages you to do further research into the ways other parts of the diaspora were also affected.
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BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE POINTS IN THIS VIDEO A LOT. ESPECIALLY AFTER SEEING SO MANY ISREALI SETTLERS SITTING SAFE IN THEIR HOMES, CALLING THE FREE PALESTINE MOVEMENT “SICK" WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY HAVING THE PRIVILEGE TO BE FLEEING THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY FEEL UNSAFE. WHILE JUST A MILE OVER PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ARE LOCKED IN GAZA, BEING MURDERED BY THE THOUSANDS. NO FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT. NO FOOD, NO WATER. JUST CARNAGE. BROUGHT ON BY THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT/MILITARY. IT'S JUST CRAZY TO ME THAT SO MANY PEOPLE CANT SEE THE HYPOCRISY OF IT ALL. ESPECIALLY THOSE CLAIMING TO BE LIBERAL MINDED.
PUSH PAST YOUR PREJUDICE OF ARAB PEOPLE. LISTEN TO PALESTINIAN VOICES. KEEP SHARING THEIR STORIES. AND INSTEAD OF CLAIMING YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY IN THE PAST. BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE NOW! THERE IS NO NEUTRAL STANCE IN A GENOCIDE
ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF ZIONISTS I'VE SEEN PUSHING PROPOGANDA. ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE SUPPOSED HORRIBLE THINGS THEY'VE SEEN HAPPEN IN ISREAL INSTEAD OF SHOWING THE WORLD. ALSO THE DEBUNKED AI PHOTOS AND REPORTS. WHILE AT THE SAME TIME I'VE SEEN SO MUCH REAL FOOTAGE OF MANGLED PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. MANGLED CHILDREN KILLED BY ISRAELI FORCES. NOTHING BUT ACTUAL FOOTAGE FROM PEOPLE ON THE GROUND IN GAZA. MEANWHILE THE ISREALI GOVERNMENT HAS TO PAY PEOPLE TO SPREAD LIES THAT THEY CANT BACK UP. ITS SO CLEAR WHATS HAPPENING AND IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO SEE IT THAN I DONT KNOW HOW TO HELP YOU
TO THE ISRAELI PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RISKING THEIR LIVES PROTESTING THEIR GOVERNMENTS ACTIONS. EVEN BEING THREATENED BY THEIR OWN POLICE FORCE TO BE SENT IN TO GAZA TO DIE FOR VOCALIZING THEIR SUPPORT OF PALESTINIANS. I WISH NOTHING BUT SAFETY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES.
AND TO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. THOSE IN GAZA AND THE WEST BANK AND THOSE OUTSIDE OF IT. IM SO SORRY FOR THE UNIMAGINABLE HORRORS YOU ARE FACING. I’VE SEEN FOOTAGE THAT IS SEERED INTO MY MIND. AND IT'S NOT EVEN A FRACTION OF WHAT YOU ARE BEING SUBJECTED TO IN PERSON. WISHING ETERNAL PEACE FOR THE THOUSANDS OF MARTYRS LOST IN NOT JUST THE PAST 17 DAYS, BUT IN THE PAST 75+ YEARS OF OCCUPATION AND FOR THOSE STILL FIGHTING, I WISH FOR YOU TO SEE A FREE PALESTINE IN YOUR LIFETIME. IM SO SORRY.
#FREEPALESTINE 🇵🇸
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I swear, the “pro palestine” crowd is never beating the antisemitic, racist, and xenophobic allegations because anytime I see someone with a star of david or israeli flag in their name/bio, there’s always about 50 replies that have NOTHING to do with whatever they commented and are basically just them harassing this random person online.
And there’s no winning either! Because I literally just saw someone who had their username formatted like this- "[Israeli flag] [username] [palestine flag]” -and they had like “free palestine” in their bio and also “free israel” (as in free them from hamas’ violence) and they STILL had people under their random comment on an edit saying shit like-
“You can’t have both flags in your username”
“Free Israel from violence they created?”
“No pissraeli is innocent”
So like, there’s literally no winning! Even if you’re vocal about your support of palestine, if you don’t condemn all jews and israelis to death then the “pro palestine” crowd hates you. You can want peace, want a ceasefire, want everyone to be safe, but if you DARE have any empathy for israelis or jews or the hostages then apparently none of that matters because you’re the “enemy.”
Heaven forbid you think that a two state solution is best, instead of wanting israel wiped off the face of the earth. Heaven forbid you think hamas is the terrorist organization that it LITERALLY IS and responsible for the vast majority of all of this horror, instead of painting them as “freedom fighters” and “poor wittle victuwms of the eeevil pissraelis.” Heaven forbid you condemn the antisemitism that’s skyrocketing all around the world instead of just ignoring it or calling it “activism” and saying that “the evil jews zionists just want to silence us!”
I’ve literally lost multiple friends over this shit because that’s the kind of bullshit they spread/support/associate with. It’s fucking ridiculous that people I bonded with over similar values have now just seemingly tossed those values right out the window when it comes to jews and israel/israelis. I’m so fucking tired of all of this bullshit.
If any of my old friends see this post and wonder- “does this apply to me?” -or- “is this why they stopped hanging out with me?” -think of the conversations I’ve had with y’all about this shit and take a wild fucking guess.
#I’m so fucking sick#and wanna know what’s crazy?#I’m not even FACING any of this bullshit because I’m not Jewish (yet hopefully)#I’m just watching it from the sidelines#I can’t imagine how actual jews and israelis feel dealing with all of this#the fact that there’s very few people they can trust and everyone is turning on them#all for WHAT?#harassing jews and israelis doesn’t “free palestine”#it doesn’t help your fucking cause#it just hurts innocent people who’ve done NOTHING to deserve it#“it's a great day to punch a nazi”#YOU ARE THE NAZI#to any jews or israelis that follow me or see this post:#i genuinely hope you and your families are safe#i hope things get better and that the pain eases soon#i/p conflict#israel/hamas war#israel/palestine#leftist antisemitism#tw antisemitism#antisemitism
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I love that we have a generation of young bands who, right from the offset are so vocal about their political causes, through speaking up, fundraisers, working with charity organisations and all. And now these bands are getting big. Fontaines D.C. can’t ’lose fans’ because of their constant and vocal support for Palestine, you’d get laughed out of the venue. Who was surprised when Carlos called everyone else out at the Rolling Stone UK Awards and expressed his strong support for Palestinian independence? They’d have said you’re out of the loop.
Lambrini Girls made it a point early doors: Phoebe has talked about how they were playing a venue in Germany and said if you’re a zionist, leave, and it was half the crowd back then. They’re now one of the most anticipated releases of 2025. They’ve stuck to this principle throughout their rise: their songs are anti-misogynistic, anti-transphobia, anti discrimination. By the time Phoebe scaled the top of a Glastonbury tent to plant a Palestinian flag, there were only cheers.
Bands like Kneecap. They opened their show at Glastonbury, a televised slot shown on national television on the BBC, with a message about imperialism by Britain in Ireland and Palestine. They have gone around with their projectors and projected this fact on public buildings. They’ve talked on stage about how more people were killed in Gaza in 6 months than the entirety of the Troubles. And now, their film is going to the Oscars. They swept the British Independent Film Awards, they’ve been nominated for a BAFTA too. And at that late stage if you complain that Kneecap are being political? Hahaha mate, you’re having a laugh.
Fans of all these bands tend to also follow their beliefs. It’s what draws you into their music, right? When you hear the lyrics to Lambrini Girls’ TERFs Out, or God’s Country, or Bob Vylan’s He’s A Man or We Live Here. Kneecap’s CEARTA, Enola Gay’s PTS.DUP or Through Men’s Eyes. Amyl and the Sniffers’ Knifey or Comfort To Me. Unless you’re actively stuffing a finger in your ears going ‘la la la I can’t hear you’, you must know.
And so I love that I see Fontaines fan accounts, ones with pretty large followings and engagement with a description that basically says ‘Fontaines D.C. fan account. Free Palestine.’ (And it’s not just performative, they too have used their platform to organise fundraisers and work with charity organisations to make sure their action is as direct as can be.) Fandoms can sometimes be places where it’s almost taboo to break the veneer of pretending your time spent loving a band somehow doesn’t exist in the real world, and I see this a lot with older fandoms/older bands’ fandoms. ‘Just stick to the music’, ‘we’re all just here to love this band, let’s leave the politics out of it’ okay grandma. Your band themselves have spoken out but just because they do it less frequently doesn’t warrant the ‘no politics’ rule of your fanclub.
So I’m glad to see how actively involved our new bands are, they were vocal before they had a platform and a big chunk of their listeners are now either people that came up with them, supporting this, or those who even learned something along the way. And as we’ve seen from Taylor Swift fans, mobilised fandoms can do a LOT, that’s really where the power of music to make difference lies, so I’m glad to see how fandom in music by these young bands is not resistant to it!
#Thoughts#Music#Politics#fandom#fontaines d.c.#kneecap#lambrini girls#Bob Vylan#Enola Gay#musicians#amyl and the sniffers#Kneecap band#fontaines dc#Just one example would be the bigger social media muse fandoms. Girl. This band has been political since like album 2#Wtf do you mean ‘why did you guys get political’ are we listening to the same band??#muse band
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People claim to be antizionists yet sit here and yell at Palestinian journalists for not catering to their politics or comfort, cancel Palestinians for being ~antisemitic~ toward Zionists, yell at Palestinians and tell them they should only amplify support from politically correct sources, adjudicate who is more oppressed in Palestinian society, routinely ask them what they think about women and gay+trans people, etc, and feel no shame ? Yes the advantage of social media is that genocidaires cannot hide the truth, but because Palestinians have to offer their oppression on a silver platter for the world to even begin listening, it makes these sjw freaks feel as if they have a license to monopolize & dictate the cause and lecture to/about Palestinians. Imagine cancelling Gazans in particular at this moment.
They don’t even realize how dangerous this is to people they claim to care about because it only makes it easier for Zionists to manufacture consent for collective punishment. It’s sickening, leftists want perfect victims, not human beings.
All of this. Honestly the reaction people had to Palestinians saying that Tal, the guy who refused conscription, did the right thing but that it was the bare minimum and that it didn’t make him a hero, it made me realize that some of the most vocal white allies are white before they are allies. They are allies who refuse to become accomplices. It also did show me that the ones who are mainly trying to amplify Palestinian voices are the real deal. They exist and they are willing to do the work.
But the ones who are white before being allies… they were literally accusing Palestinians of « living confortable lives in the West and criticizing from their own confort » THEY ARE IN EXILE?!?! The reason they are in the West is specifically because of Israel’s settler colonialism. How the fuck is it confortable to see your people your family your loved one getting slaughtered? How the fuck is it confortable for your right to live and be free to be questioned and seen as antisemitic? How the fuck is it confortable to wait for a message from a family member in Gaza hoping they are alive? How the fuck is it confortable to constantly have to be careful with your choice of words? How the fuck is any of this confortable?!
I do think things are changing. I do think Palestine will be free in our lifetime. But I also think that a lot of genuine white allies still have a lot to learn and unlearn. As for those who will refuse to do the work they are not allies they are there to clean their conscience.
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Personally, I can't help but see Taylor Swift's actions as a cynical attempt at PR becos this is coming right after pro-Palestinian activists called her out for having her Eras movie be screened in Tel Aviv and the backlash against her being Time's 2023 Person of the Year. And this isnt the first time, remember when Taylor Swift collabed with Ice Spice after what her ex-boyfriend Matt Healy said about Ice Spice was given renewed attention as a result of Swift's relationship with him.
And then, there's also my frustrations with fans centering their celebrity faves in progressive/social justice movements (seeing Swifities praise TS instead of Ramy Youseff who organized the damn event and is actually more at risk for getting blacklisted by virtue of being an Arab Muslim man who is vocally pro-Palestine and is an up-and-comer). There's an element of tokenization when fans find out their fave (supposedly) supports certain progressive/radical/social justice causes, it becomes a way for fans to tout as evidence of the morality of their fave and by extension, themselves for supporting the celebrity.
#anti taylor swift#taylor swift crit#taylor swift critical#white feminism#performative activism#performative allyship#free palestine#ramy youseff
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I already see the finger-pointing has begun, so let's make it clear.
No matter how some of you would find it comforting to point fingers at other leftists....no. People who were witholding their vote to pressure Democrats into stopping support of the genocide in Palestine or who felt dirty t the idea of voting for someone supporting that genocide....they were a vocal minority that did not amount to much in the election. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them voted anyway.
No minority group is to blame either. As much as Bernie Sanders may want to talk about Demcorats betraying the working class, the working class wasn't the demographic that shifted the results. It's cut and dry that the only place where demographics of voters differ significantly enough to shift the lections between 2020 and 2024....are white men. White men did not show up, but also Trump had a surge of white male supporters below 30. GenZ subreddit is now eating itself, btw.
The main takeways from this are:
We fucking failed GenZ and lost the fight to grifters like Andrew Tate and Sneako, we need to figure out how to unfuck this and how to not repeat it with Gen Alpha, not just for elections, but in general
White men just showed everyone they'd rather elect a fucking nazi, than a woman, regardless of policies. If everything else was the same, but Kamala was a white guy , or she was running for Vp and Tim Waltz for president or Dark Brandon endorsed Harry DuBois as Dems candidate, these shallow fucks would vote blue. We should not forgive and never let them forget.
-Admin
#I'm a white guy#but I'm ashamed by my fellow white men#don't fucking go around blaming leftists for this
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im not sharing them here because i cannot justify circulating racist content but there has been a dramatic uptick since the american election results were announced in hateful and just disingenuously nitpicky genocidal messages about the way i fundraise for mohamed. you can use your imagination about what they’re calling me as a white american jew. re: the less overtly horrendous but nonetheless ridiculous messages (how much do you fuckers donate before you needle me for my word choices?) personal fundraising is not perfect. we are basically asking individuals to so the work that nonprofit teams should be doing. but plain and simply human beings are asking for help and we are listening. these awful messages are water off a duck’s back for me personally but i do worry what kind of danger mohamed is put in by both the trump camp and by sore loser libs feeling like taking out their anger on palestinians and their most vocal allies.
as my work commitments increase this month, it’s more important than ever that i be able to rely on others to take care of this campaign for me.
mohamed is #192 on this verification sheet.
@save-mohamed-family
you can also use this cashapp QR code if you hate gofundme as much as i do:
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It never occurred to me to show my support for Gaza bc l've been relatively vocal on my other socials (also no fucking shit I'm on their side in this genocide against them) and do what I can to help, but I realize that perhaps my silence has given off the impression that I do not care what's happening.
I saw a tweet that talked about the recent boycott and it said "This is not about you, this is about Palestine." and I think that's how l've always seen it. I don't eat at certain places anymore or purchase e-sims when I have the funds, share links and stories, boost the voices of those on the ground and such. I am not loud about my support on all my social media. It isn't about me or you, it's about helping people who need it and Palestine has needed it for YEARS.
There are things I cannot do, like donate more than I'm able or attend certain protests or stop everyone in my life from supporting zionist companies/celebrities or make beautiful art that captures what's going on, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop trying to do what I can in my day-to-day life. Neither should you.
In my linktree there's a list of places dedicated to helping the people affected by this war, please take a look if you have the means. Keep up your support for Palestine 🍉
#free palestine#free gaza#support for palestine#support for gaza#free palestine 🍉#furby#twos art#art#art for gaza#important#twos talks
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