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A saint in Beacon Extra 1

Jeanne: Hey, mind if i ask a question?

Lia: *drinking her tea* Go on.

Jeanne: Well, i know Nora is your adoptive sister, but you also told me you have a brother, right?

Lia: Yeah, Lie Ren, why? Curious if he's going to come to Beacon? Jeanne: I mean i guess? I do have a brother who is supposed to come soon enough.

Lia: *sigh* Well, for your information he's already in Beacon. Though his team was kinda weird for what he told me.

Jeanne: How so?

Lia: For starter, White and Red sister's are on his team. Jeanne: I alway wanted to meet White's family, he is alway so kind, i'm sure his siblings are the same! And Red sister? Wasn't she 15? Lia: That's why i said weird. though the weirdest of them all hasn't arrived yet. Of what i heard, he was trained by the mysterious lady of the lake in some kind of Aura manipulation technique which give him incredible power with dust. Jeanne: *sweating* Oh no. Lia: *looking at Jeanne with egle eyes* Jeanne? You're ok? Jeanne: *akward laugh* Well i uh... i know who's the foth member of the team. Nora: *who was listening to everything* AH! Let me guess, he's your brother? Jeanne: ... My twin. Meanwhile Jaune: ACHOO! *Blake dust activating in his hand, making him crash in the wall* Morgan: Hey! Be cautious when you're using dust! And bless you!

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Acceptance

This week's thoughts are gonna be quick and not as deep because I really think we need next week's ep to properly analyze this (this was basically just set up).

So, this is just a list of things I noticed...

FINAL STAGE OF GRIEF

So, we are at the final stage:

Jaune: I think I get it. This is how we got here. Why the Tree brought us here. Acceptance.

Acceptance is probably going to take 2 episodes. This one is WBYJ reaching acceptance, while the next one it will be Ruby's turn.

For those who missed my previous post, here we go one last time... (skip it if you already know the motif).

This volume is built on the motif of the 5 stages of grief: negation, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. In particular, each episode explores a stage. We got through the cycle twice, as Ruby is mostly grieving 2 people: Penny and Summer.

So, Ruby is the protagonist of the volume, so this motif mostly focuses on her.

FIRST CYCLE

Episode 1: Negation > Everyone knows something is wrong, but Weiss refuses to reveal Penny died until the very end. When Ruby discovers it, she closes off and refuses to talk about it.

Episode 2: From Negation to Bargaining > Ruby still refuses to talk with Weiss about Penny, but when they reach the auction, she is drawn to Penny's sword. She has not enough hope to pursue it (meaning she has not enough strength to really start grieving). Still, Little, aka Ruby's inner child and hope, symbolically takes the sword for her and so Ruby can start the process. She bargains the sword to meet the Red Prince. Through this, she is able to express her feelings over Penny in a way she would have never managed, either way. She grieves Penny through a fairy tale (main theme of the volume),

Episode 3: Anger > Ruby's bargain is refused by the Red Prince, so Ruby symbolically grows more and more frustrated and angry. In the end, though, neither her anger nor the Red Prince's lead anywhere and Ruby ends the episode particularly down.

Episode 4: Depression > Ruby meets the Herbalist, who forces her to face her negative feelings in the form of her younger self. Summer gets mentioned for the first time here.

Episode 5: Acceptance > The Curious Cat mentions the theme of acceptance and Ruby meets the Blacksmith/Tree for the first time. In her Tent, she finds Penny's sword again and is told nobody is really lost (they become a part of you, as we are told last volume). There, she also glimpses at Summer's weapon. Still, she is not ready to fully accept her friend and her mother's deaths.

SECOND CYCLE

Episode 5: Bargaining > Ruby bargains her emblem in exchange of the ingredient to help her friends. It is the first time in the volume Ruby mentions Summer. It is also the first time in the series, she mentions a Mother's Promise, hinting at her feelings of abandonement because Summer did not keep her promise.

Episode 6: Negation > Ruby, Jaune and Weiss all negate their feelings of grief and do not open up to each other. This is especially true for Jaune and Ruby... Jaune negates death altogether as a concept, while Ruby doesn't even see her own reflection looks like Summer.

Episode 7: Anger > The negation and repression of her own feelings leads Ruby to explode at everyone. Jaune follows through and Ruby leaves frustrated.

Episode 8: Depression > All of Ruby's negative feelings come out in the form of Neo's illusions and conquer her until she gives in and drinks the tea, in order to disappear. Interestingly, here there is no Summer, but there is Penny instead.

It is as if the first cycle is mostly about Penny, but the Depression stage introduces Summer, while the second is mostly about Summer, but the Depression stage has still Penny in there.

Finally, this week's episode leads to Acceptance... WYJ must all deal with this idea:

Jaune does it through the meeting with the Genial Gems and Weiss's words. He starts to accept his failures in Atlas and in the Ever After.

Weiss does it through helping Jaune. She affirms failures doesn't mean one is not good nor brave. She says this to Jaune, but this works for herself, as well.

Yang must do it when it comes to Ruby, with Blake's help. In her case, the point of acceptance is to accept she can't always be there and protect Ruby. She also has to trust Ruby and the person she will become.

As a whole, WBYJ all must accept Ruby as a person, with all her strong traits and flaws. As you see, the theme of acceptance is rather rich and full of different meanings. We have it in regards to grief, but also in regards to people. Accepting losses, failures and flaws in ourselves and others.

THE 4 GIFTS

This volume has the characters go through the 4 gifts:

Knowledge > Herb

Creation > Jaune/Rusted Knight

Destruction > Neo/Jabberwalker

Choice > The Blacksmith

Symbolically, it is very good Jaune's acre and Neo's acre are literally side by side, just as Creation and Destruction are meant to be. On a more general note, the Tree is really all 4 gifts:

The tree's herbs are what gives people inner knowledge of themselves. This is why Herb is The Herbalist... he probably uses herbs taken from the tree's roots. And this is why when Jaune falls into the tree, we see the same smoke there was in Herb's house:

The tree breaks beings and restores them by giving them the Choice of what they want to become.

MACROCHOSM AND MICROCHOSM

This episode just confirms volume 9 is meant to be a microchosm of RWBY as a story...

Volume 9 > Ruby's story

The series > RWBY's story

This is also why it makes sense the final fight is really about protecting Ruby from the CC. I was thinking it might have been about saving the Ever After, but it being about Ruby specifically is just perfect. After all, RWBY saving the world and Ruby saving herself are both philosopher stones. Ruby is the philosopher stone that needs to be saved and refined this volume:

Look! Little Red Riding Gem! (She even has the little basket <3)

This is also why narratively WBYJ have to go to the Tree... this situation can be read as a metaphor:

Ruby attempted suicide and she is now dealing with her issues with the help of a therapist (The tree). Or if you prefer, on her own because right now she can't be reached.

WBYJ's role is to wait for her and to love her unconditionally when she comes out. Accepting her, no matter what. Narratively this struggle is shown through them having to protect their friend from the CC. This is also an affirmation of the theme of trust and faith explored last volume. Do they know Ruby is going to be safe and sound? No, it is a risk. This is the point, they will keep having faith in her.

I also perfectly understand this metaphor might not work for everyone, given how it deals with a very sensitive topic btw.

The CC keeps being wonderful imo and their Neo/Cat's design has really grown on me this episode. Thematically, they are the negation of the negation: they wanna interrupt the cycle. Just like they kept eating butterflies, they wanna eat Ruby up before she can emerge from her cocoon (Herb's emerging as a butterfly really drives the metaphor home). Still, ironically, this makes them very similar to Ruby, of all people.

WHAT ARE YOU?

Curious Cat: She's still here... Yes! All my work... it's not lost! Deep down, she wants nothing more, but to return to Remnant and play hero. I just need to cut her out and she will take me there!

The Blacksmith: You could put anyone of them on... and leave Ruby Rose behind.

Both the Curious Cat and Ruby want to be someone else. They think their problems would be solved, if only they could leave their old selves behind. If only the Curious Cat could leave the Ever After. If only Ruby could put down her burden.

If the Curious Cat becomes human, they might leave the Ever After and fulfill their purpose

If Ruby becomes Summer, she could finally be enough

And yet, it's not so simple. After all, the Curious Cat becomes Neo, but they still can't leave:

Similarly, wielding Summer's weapon might not solve Ruby's problems.

What could then?

The problem with the Curious Cat and Ruby is that their purposes would be too much for anyone.

There is no-way to know everything

There is no-way to save everyone

These goals are too wide, which forces the Curious Cat and Ruby to spread themselves too thin. They keep on going far and far away (The Ever After > Remnant, Beacon > Mistral > Haven > Atlas > The Ever After) in order to escape who they are. What they should both do is instead to go deeper:

The Curious Cat should know themselves

Ruby should save herself

Not far far away, but rather... inside.

WEISS AND JAUNE

I will be writing more about them and their foiling after the volume is over. As for now...

1 - This scene:

They were still incredibly brave. And good.

Calls back this scene:

Jaune: I'm sorry I... I know I am not okay. I'm... I'm not right.

Jaune tells Weiss and the others he is not right and Weiss re-assures him he is good.

2 - Weiss's whole speech:

Weiss: I think you are asking too much of yourself. We've been telling ourselves failing means we are no good. But I can guarantee even the best Huntsmen in history they've all lost. But they were still incredibly brave. And good.

Resembles this speech:

Red-Haired Woman: She understood that she had a responsibility… to try. I don't think she would regret her choice, because a Huntress would understand that there really wasn't a choice to make. And a Huntress is what she always wanted to be. Jaune: Pyrrha never got the chance to graduate… But she was a Huntress.

In both scenes, Jaune is struggling with grief and self-hate. In the first one, he has just lashed out at Oscar out of anger for Pyrrha's death. In the second one, he has just lashed out at Ruby out of anger for the paper pleasers ascending. Both times, he is doubting himself. He thinks he might not be cut to be a hero. Both times, a woman comes and reassures him. The first time, Pyrrha's mother/ghost/vision encourages him to keep going. The second time, Weiss encourages him to let go. Both scenes end with a family like re-union (team JNR and team RWBY).

Not to count both scenes have mystical symbolic leaves flying around. Someone coming back in the same way, but different (the red-haired woman/ Pyrrha's statue, the Genial Gems/the giant white construction).

Both scenes also put emphasis on the same thing. Even the best of heroes fail. Still, in the first one, there is the necessity to keep going knowing the risk of failure. In the second one, there is the necessity to accept failure. And to forgive one-self.

I would add that by paralleling these 2 scenes you get an additional symbolism when it comes to the Genial Gems:

They foreshadow Ruby coming back

They comment on Jaune's arc and integration with Pyrrha

To make it clear, Jaune is Pyrrha's Genial Gem's form:

Jaune: She should be standing here… Red-Haired Woman: She is.

Pyrrha is standing there not because her ghost is there, but because Jaune is there. He is integrating with and growing more similar to her. So, that in the end he can become a true hero, like Pyrrha. But differently from her, he will not die:

Blake: This is them, isn't it? They're back. Weiss: It's just like they said. They came back from the tree better. Yang: No flood, nor fire would ever hurt them again.

3 - Weiss's words are an inversion of this speech:

Ruby: You did the best you could for Atlas, Weiss. Weiss: But it wasn't enough! We hatched a crazy plan that put a whole kingdom at risk, and we don't even know if we saved the Relics from… Maybe… Jaune and Winter were able to get them out, despite… everything… despite us…

Weiss starts the volume thinking she and the others are no good because they failed Atlas. She also leans on Ruby to grieve. This unwillingly makes Ruby's burden heavier.

Right now, though, she is the one helping Jaune grieve and in this way she starts healing herself. She and the others lost, but it doesn't mean they are no good. They were still brave. They were still Huntsmen.

In short, Weiss here succeeds with Jaune where she failed with Ruby. She does for him what she could not do for her. And I think this is partly because of Ruby's call out:

Ruby: “No time”, right? “Gotta get home!” “Gotta help Jaune!” Gotta find someone who isn’t just going to screw everything up!

Weiss has spent this whole volume looking for someone, who can fix things. For someone who is wise and who can guide them all. It turns out that wise one was none other than Weiss herself:

Curious Cat: I am talking about you, Wise Huntress.

4 - As @hamliet explained, this scene:

Is an inversion of this scene:

In both scenes, an enemy takes advantage of Weiss to hurt Jaune. The first time, psychologically. The second time, physically. Both times, Weiss gets hurt, as well. The first time physically, the second time psyhcologically. The first time Weiss gets hurt indirectly because of Jaune. This time, Jaune gets hurt indirectly because of Weiss. Both times, a spear, which calls back to Pyrrha, is the weapon used to impale. Both times, there is fire involved. (And yeah, Jeanne D'arc has been set on fire)

This scene as a whole also clearly shows Jaune has not solved all his issues, as he is symbolically brought down by the 3 girls he wanted to save:

Pyrrha > Beacon > Knowledge

Weiss > Haven > Creation

Penny > Atlas > Destruction

3 gifts, which all bring him toward Choice. What he will probably asked to make next episode.

THE BLACKSMITH AS ALYX?

Personally, I love this theory. If this is the case, then:

Alyx is the Tree, while Lewis is the Writer. This makes both of them similar to the Gods. A pair of opposite siblings that end up creating worlds. We'll see if this is true and what it means.

Alyx's purpose is then to fix everything she broke.

The Curious Cat directly mentions Jaune:

Curious Cat: Know that after talking to the tree, she had a sudden crisis of consciousness. Decided she wanted to fix everything she had broken in the Ever After. Including poor Jaune.

Personally, I think that if there is enough time (not sure, about that) it might turn out Alyx also meant the Curious Cat themselves:

Curious Cat: The same girl I followed because she promised me she would bring me back to Remnant with her. When in truth, she had no intention of taking me.

We don't know the details, but Alyx tricked them and it is possible that by telling them about Remnant, she might have made their purpose so much greater. One thing is to discover everything about the Ever After. Another thing is to discover everything about a whole new universe.

Anyway, Jaune is probably going to be remade somehow, so I wonder if the Curious Cat will ascend as well in the end. I think it would be the best outcome for them, as they need to gain a deeper kind of knowledge aka wisdom to truly be happy.

If this is the case and if the Blacksmith is indeed Alyx, then does it mean she has finished her purpose? And if that is the case, then does someone else need to take Alyx's place? If so, I have a candidate:

Jaune: So, Neo can't go through the door. Curious Cat: No. She has no attachments to your world. Nothing to return to.

Of course, the point might be that Neo will find once again some form of attachment and will choose to go back to Remnant with them. Still, considering what has just happened and Neo's breakdown, I think it would be a little weird if this were to happen right away. I think her staying in the Ever Afer, maybe to fix what she broke and to heal herself in the process would be a more interesting outcome. She doens't even have to like stay there forever, but just until she feels strong enough to return to reality. Once her Overactive Imagination is fulfilled :P

It would also explain Neo transictioning into Alyx in the opening.

Crack theories apart, the revelation The Girl Who Fell Through The World is actually a fairy tale Lewis wrote to grieve his sister and to find closure with her never coming back is beautiful. It is a powerful metaphor of what this volume is really about. How fiction can help dealing with grief. Alyx never came home. Like Penny. Like Summer. So, Lewis wrote her story by making her a hero, a protagonist. He wrote a story, so that she would not be forgotten:

Ruby: Not just a powerful warrior, the most powerful to ever lived. She was touched by magic, and she gave her life for thousands. She took a message of hope to the stars, and she saw the world through better eyes. (looking up) Take us to the royal birthday, and allow us to present this most precious gift.

Like Pyrrha. Like Penny. Like Summer.

Speaking of Summer:

WONDERFUL DESIGN! She has all 4 the colors of our heroines: black, white, yellow and red. She even combines silver (her eyes) with gold (her weapon). Really an impossible ideal to achieve symbolically ;)

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A saint in Beacon chapter 3

After the explosion

Red: Sorry! Name's Red and again i'm really sorry for the explosion!

White: It's... Fine. You didn't do anything wrong. Not to insult you but don't you seem a bit young to be here?

Red: *thumb on his chest and looking really proud of himself* I got bumped up two years! Stopped a robbery in vale yesterday and Ozpin immediately took me in!

White: ... You know, you don't have to lie to try to one up me, just you being here is good enough. Anyway, happy to meet y- (look behind Red, seeing Jeanne for the first time) -ou... An angel, i just saw an angel!

Red: What? *Turn around* You mean Jeanne? I'm pretty sure she's a human my man.

White: Oh gods, what should i do? Hey, Red right? How do i look?

Red: ... Like someone who just took an explosion to the face?

White: *dying inside* oh no, i can't let her see me like that!

Jeanne, from behind Red: Are you two okay?

Jeanne, as White turns to her and suddenly goes ramrod straight in panic: That explosion looked pretty nasty.

Red: *shaking his head* Nah, we’re fine, right White? *raising a brow at the Schnee as he simply stares at Jeanne in silent awe* White?

White, suddenly blurting out: I’M WHITE SCHNEE!!!

White, quickly holding out his hand to Jeanne with a blush on his face: NICE TO MEET YOU!!!

Jeanne, innocently tilting her head in confusion: Who?

Blake, coming forth: The hair of the SDC. *Crouch to get the red flacon of dust on the ground* You must have heard of them; the main providers of dust in all remnants.

White: I-indeed!

Blake: And a dubious organization using faunus as cheap labor.

White: *visibly deflating* That's also right...

Jeanne: I can't say i've ever heard of them, my village still uses other means for electricity. But even if your family isn't the greatest, i'm happy to meet you White! My name is Jeanne Arc, enchanté!

Blake: ... I was expecting you to react a lot less friendly to him.

Jeanne: Why? My mother always says that strangers are just friends you haven't met yet! *Go in front of Blake* And what's your name?

Blake: *sigh* I'm Blake, but for your own good, i wouldn't trust someone like him. He might look nice right now, but that can be a persona he use for the others to see.

Jeanne: ... A persona? What?

Blake, shaking her head: Nevermind, just beware.

White, clenching his fists: ... I'm nothing like my father, Blake. You shouldn't judge someone's character by what their family did, but instead by their individual actions. Nothing could excuse the actions of my father, but you can be sure of one thing; i am nothing like my father.

Blake: (in her head) wow, I kind of feel bad now. He does seem like a pretty nice guy. But i'm sure he would change his opinion fast if he knew i was-

White, looking directly at Blake's eyes: I am for equity for both Faunus and human alike. If it was of me, i would have readily accepted most of the white fang demands, but my father burned that bridge and it will take time to rebuild it.

Blake: ......

White, continuing: If only he could have accepted Ghira's compromise! But of course he couldn't! It would have been a cut in his profits!

Blake: *visibly sweating when she heard her father's name* O-okay! You made your point little man! I think we shall go, right? Yeah let's go now! *Speed walk*

Jeanne: I hope she is alright, she looked quite red at the end...

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A Schnee's Desire

Weiss: So, is alright of my team, and my friends stay here mom?

Willow: I don't mind, your father will no doubt work up a fuss, but he will not be here for the next week, so you should be just fine.

Weiss: That's amazing! I'll go tell them that they can stay.

Willow: Mind if I come with you? I want to know who is going to be staying here.

Weiss: Okay.

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Weiss: Okay this is my partner, Ruby Rose.

Ruby: Hello! My name is Ruby! I'm Weiss's bestie for restie!

Weiss: Ahh?! Get off of me you dolt!

Willow: Ohh~! It's nice to see my daughter have a friend who's so close to her. Would you mind sharing a room with my daughter? There are not many spare bed rooms for all of you.

Weiss: Wait, w-w-what?!

Ruby: Whoo! Sleep over!

Weiss: Ahck?! Get off of me!

Willow: And, who are you two?

Blake: My name is, Blake Belladonna.

Yang: And, my name is Yang Xiao Long! This little gremlins older sister!

Ruby: Yang?!

Willow: And, you are a faunas? A cat faunas at that.

Blake: Is that a problem...?

Willow: Not to me, although... Jacques is allergic to cats... You being a cat faunas, would you perhaps trigger his allergies?

Blake: What, no that's...? Well... Could I...?

Yang: That's a serious question right there.

Blake: If he did have a reaction... how bad of a reaction would it be.

Willow: Not bad enough...

Blake: Dammit!

Willow: Do you two mind sharing a bed?

Yang: What?

Blake: Sharing a bed?

Willow: There are rooms, and spare beds, but not enough for each of you to have your own separate bed. I am sorry.

Yang: No, that shouldn't be a problem, right, Blake?

Blake: No, not a problem at all. Hey, Yang?

Yang: Yeah?

Blake: 'And, they were roommates.'

Ruby: 'My god they were roommates...'

Willow: What?

Weiss: Ignore them.

Willow: Very well then. And, who might you two be?

Nora: Hi! My name is, Nora! And, this is my potentiallover, Ren!

Ren: Hello, Mrs. Schnee.

Willow: Hello to you as. Do you two mind sharing a room, and a bed together?

Ren: Well, I don't...?!

Nora: IT'S FINE!

Willow: Oh?

Nora: It's totally fine if the two of use share a bed together~!

Willow: Is it..?

Ren: Uhhhh...?

Yang: Don't stop her, she needs this.

Willow: Okay...?

Willow: And, lastly we have... Oh? Hello~!

Jaune: Hello, Mrs. Schnee. My, name is, Jaune Arc.

Willow: Hello~! So, I have a bed you can use, so long as you don't mind some company~?

Jaune: Am I sharing a bed with your son?

Willow: No, no no not at all. I couldn't possibly ask my son to share his bed! But, I can assure you, the person in question wouldn't mind sharing their bed with you~!

Jaune: Oh well, if they won't mind, then neither do I!

Willow: I assure you, Jaune, I won't mind at all~! Now, why don't I show you to your room~!

Jaune: Why thank you, Mrs. Schnee!

Willow: Ara Ara, Jaune! Please, call me, Willow~!

Jaune: Okay then, Willow!

RWBYNR: ...?

Ruby: D-Did your mother just flirt with, Jaune?

Weiss: N-no she didn't....

Nora: She totally flirted with, Jaune!

Weiss: She did not!

Yang: Did you not see how she's draped all over him!

Weiss: No I didn't...!

Blake: She literally said, 'Ara Ara,' to him!

Weiss: You misheard her!

Whitely: Hello sister. I saw mother leading on of your friends to her bedroom. Why did she do that?

Weiss: W-What?

Ren: Weiss... it's time to face the truth...

Weiss: ...

Weiss: Oh gods... My mom is going to fuck, Jaune?!

Nora: It's totally the hair.