#while Jimin jimins and jikook is jikooking

[chimggukchim]

Share our @s so we can be bullied in our inboxes till kingdom come and be ostracized by you lot? No, thank you. I'm a Jikooker too and I've seen it happen to other Jikookers too many times just because their view of Jikook isn't "they are 100% together and practically married and monogamous towards each other for more than 10 years now"

Unfortunately this space has become too cult-like where one just can't have a slightly differing opinion about Jimin and Jungkook's relationship or express how they personally truly observe it without Jikookers losing their minds or accusing them of things, the way you guys are doing right now.

There's literally no difference between this community and the Taekooker community anymore - I've seen that crazy side turn on their own just because they had the audacity to point out the ITS talk made sense to them because for a while prior to that even they felt things weren't the same between Taekook anymore. And now it's Jikookers doing the same to other Jikookers🤦🏻‍♀

People can believe that Jikook is real while still pointing out the things they feel contradict that belief, or they can believe they were together and no longer are but still think they are special to each other, or they can believe they aren't together in what one would consider the "conventional, traditional" sense.

Taekook can never be real. That is a ship that has no real substance and was literally formed on aesthetics and vibes and had a whole false narrative attached to it that became lore over the years. A lot of people say just Jikook's existence alone cancels out Taekook, but I think even if Jimin and Jung kook didn't have the kind of dynamic they have and/or they didn't exist as a duo, Taekook still wouldn't be real. Please there's fuckall there.

I am someone who believes there's something more than platonic between Jimin and Jungkook and that Jungkook is deeply in love with Jimin, but still I agree with everything the last anon's(s') said. They *are* different from how they were before and the last few years make it hard to believe in the kind of image of them that Jikook shippers have painted for years.

We are Jikookers, we are here, we exist. Accusing us of being Taekookers won't make that shit true. We don't have to be a monolith.

First thing's first - YOU may not be a taekooker in disguise, but the other anon most likely was. And most with dumb takes are as they have a knack of using the SAME rhetoric and examples every single time, not to mention, always managing to slip in Tae somehow. Let's get that out of the way.

Now, here's the thing, anon.

I understand completely, the feelings of confusion and second-guessing whether jikook are really together or not. I have been there before, on multiple occasions. There were things in the past as it happened that made me doubt whether my suspicions about the true nature of their relationship was right. I get it.

So don't go putting words into my mouth and think that you can assume 'what kind of jikooker' I am.

Cause like I've said on multiple occasions now, I did not start out in the ARMY fandom space either as a jikooker or as a shipper. I had no clue what shipping was. And til this day, I remain an ARMY supporting all of our boys as a group before any sort of shipping enters my mind. Whenever I watch BTS content, jikook as a couple is never at the forefront of my mind. I watch them as a part of Bangtan.

There are certain moments that jikookers put on a pedestal as concrete 'proof' of a relationship, that I side-eye and hence, make no post or comment on because it does not make sense.

If tomorrow, Jimin and Jungkook were to announce they were both dating other people, I would still be happy for them because before anything, I want them to be happy. If that's with other people, so be it.

So I know me and how I perceive Jimin and Jungkook's relationship. I trust my objectivity of their relationship over yours, thank you.

Now to what you have accused most in this community of...I have honestly yet to see to the extent that you have indicated. Harassing? Bullying? Cult-like? Well, I've got news for you. You're in the wrong side of town, deary. And people who go looking there, clearly want to find what they're looking for. (toxicity, by the way)

And the way you spoke of taekookers and knowing how they behave and treat each other?...Honey, the 'normal' jikooker would NEVER EVER find themselves anywhere near taekooker spaces willingly. But you have apparently. That says a lot.

You're looking for trouble. You're going to find it.

Also...my sympathy for you lessened when you compared jikookers to the cult. Because the last time I checked, jikookers didn't go around literally harassing Tae's and JK's FAMILIES AND FRIENDS in real frigging life. So miss me with that similarity nonsense. Point out all you want about SOME jikookers not being able to handle different takes of others all you want, that's fair. I'm sure there may be the immature ones like that in this community, I'm not denying it. I assure you, they're in the minority. But the minute you go comparing any shipping community's behaviour to THAT CULT...it clearly shows loose objectivity.

So with my sincerest heart, I would advise you to change your space. You're clearly in toxic spaces, jikook and taekook-wise. This is bound to influence how you view not only jikook but more importantly, the jikook community.

There is a reason why I don't answer or comment on toxic asks. It's because it brings negativity to the jikook space. And I don't want that. I have found myself probably treading on that territory these days with this discourse. But I'll work it out to bring back the space to positivity and just focusing on Jimin and Jungkook.

Anyway, the final thing I'm going to bring up is that you all keep speaking about Jungkook and Jimin's relationship changing with no actual evidence. You all simply point out things happening now but fail to actually show a proper comparison to the past to highlight the 'CHANGE'. That's not how that works.

For instance, I can say their relationship changed in that Jungkook became a lot bolder with JImin publicly as opposed to years ago. He actively flirts with Jimin on stage when, for instance, during the Red Bullet Tour (back in 2014-2015), he didn't. Jimin did. See how easy that is? Comparison.

If you have any sound comparisons...with proper context, by all means, share. I'm up to hearing it.

PS. This does not include "they don't see each other as much" because we are not privy to how much they actually saw each other back then nor how much they did in 2022/2023.

Anyway, that's all from me. Peace!

[starryjkoo]

Kinda wanna remind everyone too, when Tae dropped that Hawaii pic of him and Jk with staff right before the AYS trailer and how it sent shippers into a frenzy and they started hammering on Jikook and AYS, saying it proved it was a fanservice show, blah, blah, tk real private yada yada, Tae sending us signals, claiming his man, you know the usual. And pretty much the entire fandom was at each others throats, like it was bad. Shippers vs shippers, solos vs solos. The harassment and targeting Jikook's relationship. Guess who came online immediately after? Jimin. Jimin who had been very quiet pretty much for a long time, came to say he was doing well, not to worry, but he said something very important, that he is now a soldier and careful of what he posts online. I think his message was clear and not only a subtle message to Tae, but the fans, considering Jikook were being attacked so bad & their show being called a fraud And that is exactly what JK did, this time coming online not even 24 hours after a hell storm. So they do both defend their relationship, the best way they can without just flat out saying back off. So yes, Jimin has come online in the middle of chaos, like JK. Maybe not as much, but he and Jk are the only ones who do it when a mess is made and fans start acting up bad. That should tell you something. That they clearly don't like it, but trying to remain professional.

JK has for sure swooped in with his lives a few times to try and calm fans down (I’ll never forget that post-FESTA dinner live 😭). I think he was probably already planning on doing a live during his break, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the recent situation was also a motivator.

With JM’s comment, I’m not sure if it was intentional or not tbh, but the timing was definitely pretty funny lol so it does make you wonder. I also just appreciate his letters, they’re always so sincere and you can tell he really puts a lot of thought and care into them (I’ll never forget the first letter he wrote to us post-training, handwritten and the little creases 🥺)

But you know what I also think is super cool about Jikook? The way they also just ignore all the noise and stay unbothered.

in CH2 alone there’s Jikook going to Japan together in the middle of the situation with JJKs tagging the military, JM posting JK’s hot100 #1 while PJMs were attacking JK during Seven era, JK doing that whole Jimin live while JJKs were attacking JM during FACE era, now JK sharing several military stories that include JM right after that whole mess. I think it’s amazing that they’ve never let antis make them change the way they behave together or stop them from hanging out, making content, enlisting together, mentioning each other, or toning down their dynamic (teasing, roughhousing, or just being weird as hell lol).

I think that’s what makes tkkrs (and some other antis) so mad sometimes because they’re constantly trying to control/demand things with vmnkook - canceling orders and threatening to boycott, tried to get GCF Tokyo taken down, trending hashtags to cancel AYS, trending hashtags for all sorts of things tbh, emailing BH to stop the gay etc. They're constantly trying to demand things from the company, which is why it’s always been so ironic to me that they call Jikook the “company pushed ship” when they’re literally the ones trying to use money and other means to manipulate BH into giving them the ship content they want 😭 (as well as force them to “hide” jkk lol) so talk about projection. But yeah, none of that has ever stopped Jikook from doing their thing.

Also your ask makes me think back on JK’s JM live. I’ve always sort of thought that JK may have intentionally hyped SMFpt2 the way he did because of the ridiculous hate it was receiving. Especially because he really emphasized how much he loved the specific part antis were trying to drag. iirc he said that it was his taste or his style or something like that. I just really loved that moment, it was super vindicating lol. I remember even non-jkkr ARMYs commenting about it too, talking about it being a slap to the haters, or karma or whatever (I definitely also just think he really liked SMFpt2 tho!).

Anyways yeah, I’ve always just assumed that it’s probably a collective group decision to not address solos/shippers. Some people think it would be so simple but it really wouldn’t. If JK said something it would just be a domino effect of extreme responses (re: his NewJean’s comment). It would also drag the other members into it, expecting them to make similar statements or risk being attacked. I think that’s why it’s easier for him to address situations that only involve himself. Maybe they'll try to address it as a team one day, but imo it definitely won’t be happening while half of them are in the military with limited phone access, having to watch what they say and do more than ever.

[beautifulpersonpeach]

Sorry in advance for this long ask.

So I've noticed with kpop that most of them just go with whatever the hype or narrative fed to them is. This includes the fans or even the groups themselves.

No matter how annoying ARMYs are, I actually feel they do this slightly less than the core kpop stans because so many armys start off as locals but still within the BTS nexus also we have so many dumb narratives that just get baked into the fandom. VMin being soulmates, Jungkook being the golden maknae, Bighit being 'different' from other KPop labels, Jimin being the king of fanservice, Namjoon and Yoongi being the best at rap (so presumably over Hobi) - all this is just bs with little basis in reality. Within kpop, things are even worse imo - literally sometimes it feels like they don't listen to songs, they just decide whether things are good based on concepts or vibes or some superficial crap like that.

Anyway, so the Jungkook is the golden maknae thing, the one who will breakout narrative has been pushed for ages. The reality is that the entire maknae line is somewhat recognised among the GP and pretty popular overall. If Like Crazy had the same push as Seven, it would have done the same or better. But for better or worse, JK is the chosen one. And the reason JK acts so bratty is because he knows this too. At his core I don't think JK is a bad guy but being positioned as "the one" for years and then being actively told so by 🛴 and Bang PD now has just fueled his negative traits. The latent bratty and cocky vibes just went up exponentially during the seven promo.

I also think JK got the gist of what fans were saying about his interviews and BB Hot #1 acceptance from last week and perhaps about the preferential treatment because this week he's been doing a lot of damage control. Oh I'm so surprised I won Mnet, omg you guys I /never/ expected to win Inkigayo. He acted so weird for BB #1 but suddenly he's back to good ol' humble Jungkook. Suddenly Jimin's commenting on his lives. Tae's coming to visit him at the music show. Look how happy the members are for his success everyone. Meanwhile JK does multiple lives almost everyday this week. Seems like he's going overdrive cleaning up all the missteps from last week.

Jimin is starting to piss me tf off as well. Who keeps laughing while they are getting whipped and humiliated? A fool. He wasn't always like this but I think Bighit's harsh contract and the other members gaslighting him with fake concern and love have trapped Jimin into this zombie puppet state. I just wish he leaves Bighit. They don't care about him. They care about their chosen golden maknae and he knows it but he stays there like a fool. The mistreatment has been going on for a long time so he could have left years ago before Bighit became this powerful Hybe but he chose to spend his time drinking and being unmotivated. Although I also think its the company's fault for not motivating him. Maybe he has PTSD that Hybe is using to manipulate his behavior, in addition to his harsh contract, and that's why he played along with JK on lives to do fanservice.

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How odd. Did you actually mean to send this ask to me? Because the way this is written reads exactly like how I'd expect a solo stan to think. And you can't possibly have sent this to me, expecting me to take you seriously.

Anyway, I'm not sure what's happened in the last week for me to be receiving the barrage of weird asks I've been getting. Did one of you suddenly stumble on my blog and send it around a GC or something? Jung Kook got #1 on the Billboard Hot100 last week but it's not like it was unexpected. I mean, I did say shortly after Jimin's achievement in early April that others in the maknae-line will possibly achieve a Hot 100 too, and that was before we knew Seven was coming, that it was an English release that would get the PET treatment, that D2C sales were banned and Hybe America got involved meaning it would get even more support. So, that can't be the reason y'all are this animated. Really, nothing unexpected has happened so I don't understand why y'all are so agitated you've taken a liking to my inbox recently.

Anon, I have nothing to tell you except that if you had any self-awareness, you'd realize what's happening to you and take a clean break away from everything k-pop for a good long while. Not even just BTS, cause this, especially that last paragraph, all reads like it was written by someone who has gotten completely sucked in. And you need to get out.

[userjiminie]

jikook + 🏍️ cr. moreloveforhobi

[urmingirl]

See you in 2025 💜

[reflections-in-a-critical-eye]

Funny how except for Jikookers, no one else is talking about the fact that he's looking at Jimin like that. They all making up some y/n moment with that clip.

https://twitter.com/archiveforJK/status/1836668671319556129?t=Bow5jWLf5BLP687iyLmR8g&s=19

My knees were weak all of a sudden and I was just watching it through a screen!

But yeah, that look is for Jimin. Checked him out and everything. Looking at Jungkook there, I think he would have done everything Jimin would have told him to do in that moment.

[jmdbjk]

Jimin and music

Jimin is very good and quick at the song/melody which was shown in the doc. It is the written word that comes hard for him. So I think he’s very musically creative just not with the lyrics and it may be because he wants each word to convey/contribute meaningfully to a thought and/or emotion.

Throughout the doc, he was constantly making music by humming and singing, just sitting there he was vocally making music and Pdogg sat there and captured those notes and recreated them with computer instruments and synthesizers.

It was so fascinating to watch them put the melody together out of nothing.

But watching them was also interesting because Pdogg is like a music nerd and Jimin is his own kind of nerd and I wonder how did Jimin end up being in such an image heavy/visual heavy career because his personality is so not like that. He is so incredibly self conscious of himself.

For some reason that hair color looks SO MUCH BETTER in this pic than it did during the live.

I KNEW we needed to be careful what we wished for when we manifested blonde Jimin because during the live, that color was identical to those cheeseballs sitting on the table in front of him. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!

His gorgeousness still shone through and I love him no matter what color his hair is. I do have to admit though that before this moment, I was all settled into having dark haired Jimin from now on but look at him. He looks amazing. Thank you, Jimin, for being you!

The only times during the live watching the doc when he wasn't going "omg" at himself were when they were showing how Set Me Free Pt. 2 and Letter were written and produced.

His total immersion when Jungkook was singing the background vocals...they are just precious together.

During the live, he posed the question "why did he cut his hair that short" and then he remarked, his mother didn't like it.

[last-blue-hours]

Why was he scanning jimin’s body like that? Freaky ass

[chevelleneech]

I also wanted to tell y’all, this picture of Jimin and Jungkook

for some reason has triggered my “Wait… maybe they really are dating?” sensors, lol!

I don’t know why. Maybe it’s the matching or it feeling like an update to their GCFT outfits? Who knows, but it seems like such a couple-y outfit coordination.

And yes, I know I ship them and am always talking about how cute they are together and stuff, but I do like to keep a healthy little nugget of objectivity. And objectively, I don’t know them thus I can’t state for a fact that their relationship status goes beyond what they’ve told us it is. As such, there are occasionally moments where I have to pause for a second, because they do give off super couple-y vibes.

I feel like AYS is going to be filled with so many more than I’m expecting, as well, because they always throw a curve ball. No matter how little rope I honk they have left, they always manage to drop more and keep climbing. For example, never in a million years would I have anticipated Jimin and JK telling us Jimin have him a hickey. They were attached at the hip for years and we even saw JK suck on Jimin’s ear live on stage, but to learn a hickey followed a year later!? Insane. Same goes for their enlistment. I completely assumed they’d miss each other and probably hangout before leaving, but to learn they chose to enlist together!? Insane.

They level up every time. So while I know it’s possible they’re dating other people or may come out of the service choosing to keep distance between them for whatever reasons, right now? I’m like… are we sure they’re not dating for real? Because it feels like maybe they are/were during the filming of this series.

[mrs-monaghan]

Yeah sure jm is okay with all the hate he gets from taekookers and I'm sure that jk loves him so much and he doesn't care that taekookers hate jimin because.....it's not Jungkook to get dragged all the time 🥺 I'm so glad that jikook love each other and that jk protect jimin 🥺

This ask is either all over the place or you are being sarcastic. Which one is it anon?

Of course JK has an issue with the hate Jimin gets from the vermin. Why do you think he debunks Tkk moments so damn much??

Exhibit a) Let’s start with my all time favourite that no one talks about. ITS 2 V is playing with Bam. Jhope says:

JK doesn't even waste a second before he goes

Another translation would be "he loves everyone" 🤭🤭 That right there was very savage and hot of JK 🤭

Exhibit b) We all know this one where JK cropped himself out of the photo when he wished V a HBD.

Why do u think he did that? 🤔 Why not just share the full picture JK? 😂

Exhibit c) V goes live in JK's house without JK's knowledge

Whats the first thing out of JK's mouth when he comes online a few minutes after?

What u sorry for JK? 🤔

Exhibit d) JK is talking about boxing. V says;

JK is like; sorry bro, that's not what happened 🤭

Exhibit e) JK does a whole thirst trap for Jimin's birthday

V's birthday comes around and what did we hear? Spell it with me guys; C.R.I.C.K.E.T.S

These are just the ones i could remember off the top of my head. There is more. And V knows this. It's why he only talks about Tkk moments when JK is not around.

[xcziel]

has anybody else thought about how jk could easily manage sofia's parts of slow dance or is it just me?

[drawballa]

Shield & Shelter Chapter 7 (4/4)

ALL CHAPTERS: https://www.tumblr.com/drawballa/708347107446226945/shield-shelter-royalau-master-post?source=share

[always-is-always]

This scene was just so quientessentially Jimin and Jungkook, and their "way" of being together. I laughed and laughed and laughed, watching it and hearing Jimin's laughter! It's one of those moments that I can literally watch countless times into the future that will bring that level of Joy to my heart. 💜

jimin the kind of best friend who laughs at you first when you fall and THEN helps you up or rows away while still laughing 😂 (cr. ouranxingg) + 😭😭😭😭

[userjiminie]

jiminie got his wish, after all ♡ inspo. | interview | AYS cr. ouranxingg

[roo-bastmoon]

Remember when Jungkook’s boxing teacher told Jimin to hurry up and come back in to the gym?

Remember when Jungkook came to watch Jimin’s dance practice?

Remember when Jungkook muttered about how Jimin moved the lamp in his apartment?

Remember when Jungkook would go live and know every note and lyric, every step of every dance routine, every word of interviews for Jimin’s content?

Remember when those lives would just abruptly stop each time Jimin came back from traveling, then start up again when the traveling continued?

Remember when Jimin said he and Jungkook talk for hours and hours about music while having drinks?

Remember how they made sure to do their travel show despite how crazy their schedules had been, with barely much of any plan other than to relax and be together?

Remember how Jungkook was naked in bed begging Jimin to let him come over and shower and Jimin said he wasn’t that easy?

Remember how they spent months applying to enlist together and are almost halfway done their service now?

Why are people handwringing or gaslighting in the Jikook tags?

Jikook were busy. Jikook chose each other. You don’t need to take that as proof of anything more or less than what it is: they were busy; they chose each other.

Focus on what matters, folks.

Love, Roo

[heartofbusan]

To me, the most surprising thing about 'Are You Sure' is that we're getting to see jikook's dynamics at play, and this after years of having been 'denied' the privilege. Who is a big spoon, who the little, who drives, who gets to navigate and is in charge of snacks, who is in charge of the menu, who does the dishes? One thing my partner and I do is we talk and catch up on our day while we do the dishes.

It's domestic. Jikook are so domestic together and it hurts because it isn't new, it's lived in.

We know how much of a house husband Jungkook is. We know how much of a supportive brat Jimin is. These interactions, the conversations over lunch, dinner, while driving, while relaxing, after having an adventure. The talk that happens after a busy period and you get to settle into your body, into your drink, into your person, that familiarity you share, that is the gift that this show will give us.

It will also be the most revealing thing about them. It will show more than a singular adventure taken together. It will show that these men know the other's preferences and habits, likes and dislikes. There is no guess work, it's known. Because being domestic together is what they've been doing outside of our viewpoint for years! That's the reveal.