#which is. you know. shitty. and you then going on to be biphobic is just. icing on a shitcake.
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ssaalexblake · 1 year ago
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doctor x master is in the same category as spirk in that it will never be properly canonised bc the gays are too weird about it (i am saying this as one of those people lol) and i guess s/o to moffat's bucket loads of biphobia that led to them twissy kisses i guess
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saras-almanac · 1 month ago
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So I’ve been sitting on my feelings about the BuckTommy breakup and handling of it for a while, trying to get my thoughts in order. And after a while of thinking on it—and the recent Lou interview dropping making me feel like my feelings are valid—kind of made me want to just blurt them all out and hope for the best. So this is that.
Ultimately the entire handling of the BuckTommy breakup feels cruel. And not just cruel in an intentional way, but cruel in a casually, not even given any thought cruelty, which is worse sometimes. And to be honest, I think that’s part of why I’ve been struggling with it so much. (That and the echoes of Magicians season 4, which if you know you know).
What I mean by cruelty is just the lack of any real effort or care put into this storyline, one that they had previously been handled with so much care and concern and were praised (rightly so) for at the time. It’s the way they introduce this Tommy as Abby’s ex thing, which makes hardly any sense at all, but also feels cruel in the intention of laughing at the invisible string of fate theory between them. It’s they way that they’re 6 months anniversary and not only have they not talked about this, but Buck (Evan Buckley) didn’t get him a gift that feels cruel because that feels so wildly out of character for him. It’s the way they had the break up play into some bisexual stereotypes at best and inherently biphobic at worst by having Maddie suggest Abby turned him gay or that Buck needs to “explore” things to figure out what he wants or that Buck “Doesn’t know what pond to jump back into” of it all. (Not to mention the comments from OS about wanting Buck to fuck—which I’m not getting into because I didn’t read it and as a bisexual woman, don’t feel the need to go and try to find something that might upset me more.)
All those reasons are why the breakup itself is cruel to the characters, but it’s also cruel to those of us watching, and especially to anyone and everyone who loved and/or related to the character of Tommy, who we see walk away much much worse off than when we found him. It’s the way the story (intentionally or not) is framing it like a romcom break up – make up – pining storyline which they apparently are not doing according to interviews. It’s the way they didn’t give any sort of closure to Tommy for the character or for the audience.
There’s a reason that people lose themselves in stories—it’s because they follow certain rules and contracts. It’s expected that stories do not match up to real life because while things don’t have bigger meanings in life or they don’t work out according to plan, in stories, everything happens for a reason. Because that’s the whole point of what you’re consuming. And along with that, emotional moments are meant to feel cathartic in a way, at least eventually, because you were able to see the bigger picture, to feel the finality to things, and to really understand what’s being said and what’s happening. This breakup does none of that and actually seems to have been included and rushed for shock value and that to me, is just shitty, lazy writing.
If you were going to break them up and have no desire for any sort of reunion or closure, why not make it intentional? Tommy could be the one who wants marriage and kids and settling down and Buck internally freaks out because theoretically he wants that but maybe it’s too soon and as much as Tommy loves Buck, he’s not going to wait around and hope that Buck feels the same for him because he’s been hurt too many times like that. Or Tommy could be leaving for another state because he’s no longer going to be a firefighter or needs to go for family reasons or gets a job at a different station that he applied for ages ago and he has everything all set up and isn’t going to ask Buck to leave his entire life for Tommy, so they decide to breakup even if it hurts both of them. In either of those cases, it’s sad and devastating, but at least there would be some closure to it and understanding of it for both the characters and the audience and some peace knowing that at least these two are going to be moving toward happiness in whatever way that means for them.
Instead, what we have, is a hail-mary last-second breakup that comes out of nowhere and feels abrupt and crappy in the way we leave Tommy specifically because we might never see him again. And that is the crux of the issue. Because the way this was written, the understanding is that they are going to get back together or reunion or at least have that final closure conversation—because that’s what happens in stories. We see this type of surprise breakups, breakups where they issue is they love each other too much and are afraid to go further (Athena/Bobby and Maddie/Chimney to name two examples we saw in universe) only to eventually fight to be together and realize that if they don’t take a chance they might never know how amazing it is. So the fact that it’s set up to follow this same path while nearly every interview is telling the opposite, again demonstrates that casual cruelty as well as an inherent failure on the writing. If you have to go in interview and explain what it is you wrote or are telling, then you have failed as a writer. It’s really as simple as that.
This breakup doesn’t feel set up or foreshadowed, it just feels like they added it on because they didn’t want to do anything more with it? And that feels incredibly crappy as a decision to so many people who related to Buck and Tommy and them coming out later in life and all those other things. I’m rambling and on my phone and feeling a lot of things that I can’t fully express right now, but the long and short of it: If this was always intended to be the final time we see Tommy, this breakup is even crueler than intended.
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gay-dorito-dust · 9 months ago
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could you do asexual reader x Jason Todd headcanons?
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I know this hdc won’t resonate for most in the ace community, cuz it’s a spectrum, but I hopes it at least resonates with some, even if it’s one person. That’s more enough for me. (Also sorry for the shit writing as usual)
Jason doesn’t mind that you’re asexual. You were still you at the end of the day, so he doesn’t understand why some people tend to make a big deal out of it.
It’s not like you being asexual was hurting anyone but he guessed that some people just harbour vast amounts of hate for things they don’t/refuse to understand bc they’ve been conditioned into thinking that it’s a bad thing.
Others are just cunts that Jason gladly beats the piss out of in your honour. (Acephobes plz die disrespectfully thanks)
He will not tolerate any sort of disrespect towards you and needless to say having a six foot something man who’s built like an absolute tank is enough to silence those types of people rather quickly.
He’s more then willing to do this for anyone that you knew who was ace, aro, or was in the LGBTQIA community in general, that he becomes a someone that a lot of them could come to when in need of help, or was just in need of a safe space.
He’s unbothered by it because as long as he’s helping someone in need, he’s more than willing to offer his shoulder for them to cry on.
(I just like the idea of Jason being a protector of LGBTQIA youths.)
After all he once took joy in beating the absolute piss out of a biphobe for Tim. Sure he may not have a great relationship with his siblings, but he’s not one to ignore when they’re being treated like shit for being who they were.
He respects your boundaries and will always ask whether or not it was okay for him to kiss you, to which you’d always have to tell him that it was more then okay for him to kiss you.
He understands that asexuality was a spectrum and would ask which part of the spectrum you were apart of, and acts in accordance to make sure that you’re more than comfortable in your relationship.
He’s always finding ways to constantly learn about asexuality and more. He’s even got a whole bookshelf dedicated to LGBTQIA history because he wants to better himself and do right by you and other people who look up to him to protect them. He takes that shit seriously.
He just loves you very much and wants you to feel as though you could tell him anything that’s bothering you and he’ll gladly bring you its head if you’d like just to prove it.
If you are okay with kisses and the like, be prepared to be swarmed by it at every possible opportunity with this teddy bear, for he will smother your face in kisses as he holds you against him, smiling upon hearing you laugh and poor attempts in pushing him away. It’s a highlight of his day because when you’re happy, he’s happy.
You don’t like sex? That’s okay! He’ll make you have Junk food dates with him where you stuff your faces either pizza with stuffed crust (you can eat it in reverse) and garlic bread and watch shitty movies as you cuddle on the couch.
You: you don’t think I’m broken?
Jason; no. Why, who’s told you that you were broken because it’s a bunch of bullshit. You’re the most important person in my life and I’d do just about anything for you, no matter how big or small it may seem because at the end of the day I want to see you happy. So listen to me sweetheart and listen good, you are not broken. You are perfection incarnate in my eyes, you are everything I could’ve hoped to have by my side for you’ve never judged me, so I don’t see why I should judge you for being your truest self. Thats a bit hypocritical don’t you think?
Jason: So don’t ever think you’re broken when you’re far from it, you are whole and you are more than enough. I don’t care if we have sex on occasion or not at all, your happiness is all I care about. I want you to be happy for the rest of our lives together because now I’ve got you I’m not letting you go. Ever. I couldn’t care less about anything else but when it concerns you, I’d move mountains to make things better for you. I love you chipmunk, please don’t ever feel like you’re broken when you’re so much more than that, and I’ll spend the rest of my life proving it.
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im-out-of-it · 6 months ago
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I’ve seen book stans shitting on the show (and also CC) but I’m just saying, it could have been a lot worse. I’m not here to say it was perfect except for malec which was wonderfully done. but imagine if it followed the books. if it followed the incest, Simon cheating, Alec being biphobic, magnus not communicating very well and also basically going after 17 year old Alec, and all the other unnecessary shit and problematic writing
so yes, I’m glad they changed the show. I’m glad they upped their ages and didn’t make it all about clace, and actually did Malec well. it’s always so funny to me “tHeY dIdN’t FoLlOw ThE bOoKs” ok so what’s the problem lmao IM FUCKING HAPPY THEY DIDNT
it is a shit show but watch it just for malec and watch Alecs development, these two lovely men falling in love with each other, it’s a fucking treat. so I’m going to doing my millionth (probably) rewatch. I will ignore clace, have no interest in jace and clary (because I hate them and they’re shitty characters as we know them to be.) and get excited about Malec. I don’t care what anyone says but Matt and harry seriously gave their characters their fucking all. they created (I think) these parallels for them and deepened their characters, and added some neat tidbits. stuff that wasn’t included in the books because CC didn’t give a fuck about them until it made her money (just my opinion.) lmao
to me, they’re so underrated because harry and Matt seriously made you endure fucking clace just to watch the show for malec. that’s some fantastic acting 🥲 so I’ll be bitch posting while I’m enduring this show for my favs: Alec, magnus, and Izzy 🥰
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fromkenari · 2 months ago
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I know some of y'all are devastated about Buck and Tommy breaking up. Still, Tim, Oliver, and Lou have all been harping on it being "fresh and new" since they started talking about the season, which is why I have been holding off on throwing it all down for the ship because, yes, I DID want a place to talk about whatever was going on between them without getting bashed for it. It took me a WHILE to find that, and I don't plan to just leave those spaces because it ended.
Still, this relationship only existed for 13 episodes and was shown in less than half of those episodes. I didn't even understand why and how they were in a relationship until 8x05. I was prepared for that dinner to be their one- or two-month anniversary, not SIX, with the way Tim, Oliver, and Lou have played it in interviews, insisting they're still in the "honeymoon phase."
Six months is a long fucking time for a "honeymoon phase," which is why that reveal threw me so hard at the beginning of the episode. And for how long have we been saying Abby's ex was named Tommy since he showed up and kissed Buck? And then that's not even the reason they broke up. They had Josh give Buck a pep talk before they broke up. This episode was a shitshow, yes, but are you honestly really that surprised they had another Buck love interest do him dirty? And come to find out that Oliver wants Buck to get dirty?
I'm kind of pissed about how all of this went, yeah. Still, I can't imagine what it's like going through the character you've played for seven seasons being the goddamn scapegoat for the relationship-ending trauma nearly every single season, which makes the fans put your character on a pedestal and the one time you finally get to have your character screw up and cheat SINCE his life-changing relationship in season one, your character not only does not get to fall off the pedestal, it gets higher because he doesn't get a single bit of the blame from the fans. No, they're too busy trashing your character's love interests for what your character did to them, mainly because they're women.
Y'all can say, "Wow, that must be a breath of fresh air for Tracie to have Karen not be the unmoved, understanding wife and be petty for once," but say you're "betrayed" by Oliver wanting a piece of that same nuance for his character? I mean, unfollow and block him if you must, but fucking christ y'all, the man has to be tired of being the golden retriever. No wonder he fully leaped into this arc. Let him have some fun, and Buck get a little tarnished. He's made of solid gold. He's gonna still shine in the end.
No, I am not in any way condoning the biphobic implications of the shit Tommy said to him at the end. I can see why Lou didn't want it to end that way. It's an incredible disservice to the bisexual community, and I do take offense to that. But they can't erase that now. So fine. Let this new Buck break some hearts. There's nobody (except maybe Eddie) that can doom spiral like Buck can. He's going to be impulsive. and (for once) he's not looking for a relationship. And he even said in this episode, he kind of worshiped Tommy so as shitty as what Tommy said was, it's going to go to Buck's head and heart for sure.
The Daddy said "you're just gonna break my heart" to guy with Daddy Issues. Y'all keep calling Buck a brat. Maybe he is. And maybe we're about to see it on blast. That affection-starved man has never done anything half-measured in his life.
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luulapants · 2 months ago
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a friend of mine was dating a guy that was 5'8", and he was convinced women didn't like him because of his height. he talked about it a LOT. my friend straight up did not care about his height, but his obsessive self-consciousness was a huge turn-off, so she dumped him.
he insisted she dumped him for being too short.
i dated a very nice woman but she was awkward and not making moves like i normally expect. it made me feel like i must be doing something wrong. on our fifth date, she confessed that she'd never dated a woman before and was afraid to tell me because i wouldn't want to date a "baby gay." i dumped her because she was obviously not good at honest communication.
she insisted i dumped her for being a baby gay.
i just saw another post going around about biphobic lesbians who won't date bi women, and i do see shitty people in the notes. i sort of assume they're chronically online teenagers because in my 20 years in the queer community, i've never met a lesbian who didn't date bi women.
most of the women i've dated were bi. that's true for most lesbians - that's just how statistics work. i almost married a bi woman. i've also dumped bi women who expected dating me to be the same as dating a man, who approached relationships in deeply heteronormative ways, which is something i don't enjoy and don't want for myself. i wonder if any of them think they were dumped because they're bi.
i see bi women on dating apps whose entire profile is clearly directed at men, and i wonder how many of them see the lack of matches from women as proof of biphobia.
idk, i'm probably stepping on a landmine here. i know the biphobic lesbians exist. i don't think they're nearly as big a problem as the internet would lead you to believe. and maybe before accusing lesbians of being biphobic, look at the way you approach dating and ask if the space you've made for a partner is at all suited to a lesbian.
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rulerzreachf4n7 · 8 months ago
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Fight me all you want but huntlow/lumity antis are the weakest links in the toh community,
HEAR ME OUT...
...unless you don't have ears idk block the haters
SKIP IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN SHIPS WARS IT'S HONESTLY EMBARRASSING I HAVE TO SAY THIS!!
All this slander is coming from the goldric/huntmira/lunter/guster/amiter shippers, yes that's a mouthful, and yes I'll be blocking you if you're a toxic shipper, if your not, good! except if you ship amiter, fuck off you lesbianphobic bitch, anyways back to my rant, also sorry if this comes out as insensitive, rude, or if I sound over dramatic I just really hate these types of people
If I had a dime for every toxic shipper I've encountered since I first came into the toh community...BITCH ID BE RICH CAUSE SOME OF Y'ALL ARE WILD ASF 😭🙏, this is based off of a rant I got below this post so yeah credits to anon it was very helpful pookie
Y'all toxic ass shippers will go FUCKING PARAGRAPH LENGTHS TO DEFEND YOUR SHITTY SHIPS, and this is targated twords lunter and goldric, again, if you're not toxic this ain't for you I don't mean to offend anyone, cause tell me why there is this account on Pinterest, I ain't afraid to say their name it's something like TheGoldenCoven, or some shit like that, BROS A LUNTER FAN ACCOUNT 💀, and a toxic one too, dw I got some proof
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How the fuck do you normalize the TWO MAIN COUPLE OF A SERIES??? Hunter was never intentioned to date Luz and vice versa, this is a perfect example of toxic a lunter shipper, and not only are they toxic they're...LESBIANPHOBIC!! I know it was probably from 2021 and they've moved on buuuut they did post amiter art, and they're not even a nice person although having in their bio "I'm nice you if you're nice to me" or some bullshit idk
As for toxic goldric shipper accounts I haven't seen any Pinterest or Tumblr accounts so that's good! But majority of the shippers are the most insufferable human beings on earth, their only excuse for shipping them is "they want a mlm couple and they're the same age" noting against wanting a mlm couple it'd be super nice...buy may I remind you this is post early season two...HUNTERS NAME WASN'T EVEN CONFIRMED YET 😭🙏, And let alone having only two or three minutes of screen time makes the ship have an even worse reputation, and the shippers are just bitchy and biphobic, always complaining that Hunter should be canonically gay instead of literally anything else so he can be shipped with only Edric, and I know huntmira shippers exist but I've actually never had an interaction with one, hopefully they aren't too bad
Y'all will come out withe the stupidest excuses not to ship huntlow/lumity, also sorry I got off track 😭😭, for lumity, don't know how it exists, but it's either "it's abusive" or "it's toxic" brother ew 💀, name one way Luz or Amity have hurt each other and DO NOT say it's by how Luz always makes stuff mess even though it's literally apart of her personality or by how she didn't wanna tell her about the portal door in S2 or how she accidentally helped Philip/Belos, I'll wait 😊, and I see the point of how Amity's personality downgraded to only being Luz's gf but she still did have her family problems but I guess they just didn't wanna make it an episode, I mean we got Clouds on the horizon that counts ig?
And for huntlow I keep hearing the same shit "I-Its a crack ship, I-Its forced, t-they have no chemistry 🥺🥺🥺" yeah I can see your toxic ass shipping a 12 and 16 year old together don't think you're slick bitch, and just because huntlow was rushed doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, you don't know if Dana had intentions on it but because of the cancellation it was forced to be rush, and I'm sorry to y'all hearing the shortened s3 excuse but it's true since there's literally no other explanation, also don't come into the comments saying "B-But you don't know that!!🥺🥺" it's just speculation my brother in Christ 😭🙏, merely a theory put together with brain cells which almost everyone in this community doesn't have, another weird double standard is how everyone ships gustholomule and veesha even though there's very little evidence it'll be canon was supposed to be canon but since it's a more noticeable and popular ship no one bats an eye for some reasons even though huntlow is too a popular ship, but these are the more bigger ones so I'll more obscure like cameda or aladarius which where probably never meant to happen and totally fandom operated
Anyways that's all, I'll block haters/toxic shippers in the comments so don't think you'll get a reaction outta me with some half baked and barely thought through argument you found in a Reddit post
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thousandyearphantombunker · 3 months ago
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these are just my opinions. I'm not saying we have to get rid of these tropes. I just personally hate them
Tropes I hate: 'bi woman leaves man for a woman because her ex was abusive' she could've just left her ex because they were incompatible. She doesn't need her ex to be abusive in order to get into a relationship with a woman. It has weird implications. Biphobic misandrist misogynistic because honestly misandry and misogyny are two sides of the same shitty coin when it comes to this shit (a lot of misogyny comes from misandry in works like these for some reason) fun fact about bisexuals- they like both genders and don't need a tragic backstory to explain why they aren't with a dude- their sexuality is fluid naturally- this cliche tends to imply the only reason why bisexual characters identify as bi is because of trauma which oof.
Hallmark movie BS- cheating is gross. I don't care that he's your goddamned soulmate break up with boyfriend properly.
'disabled character has a special power that basically negates their disability' or 'inorder for this disabled person to have worth they must have a useful power or skill' or 'severely disabled person is a prop and only exists to be an nuisance or inspiration porn' let your blind character be blind. Let your character who has a chronic illness have symptoms of illness- outside of the ableism wtf was the point of making them disabled? For the aesthetics? Just let disabled characters be disabled. Disabled people should not have to justify existing- a disabled person's worth shouldn't be tied to a special ability that makes them useful or whatever. Disabled people do not exist to serve as inspiration to everyone. It's always 'actually that mentally impaired person is super smart and therefore they're actually worthy of respect- okay but what if they did have a low IQ? Do you still respect them? I do but I know a lot of you don't.
'hes hot so he gets a pass on being a possessive creep' no he doesn't it's gross. Tell me the truth- would you still find it hot if someone who looked like Danny devito was being possessive of you?
'its okay when a man rapes another man because it's gay and sexy' I shouldn't have to explain this one. Rape is evil- yes even if it's a sexy man doing it to another sexy man.
No more depicting racist/homophobic characters as caricatures of Appalachian rednecks or developmentally disabled people or people born of incest. It's classist ableist and perpetuates gross stigmas against these groups of people. Seriously you'll claim to be anti classism and ableism but you depict the people you don't like with those stigmatized developmental disorders or low IQs and you assume coming from poorer rural areas are automatically racist? Go fuck yourself if you write this shit. People who have low IQs aren't morally inferior to you, people who live in poor areas and possibly have worse education than you aren't morally inferior to you. Your not fighting anti intellectualism your not fighting media illiteracy your not fighting racism or homophobia- your being an asshole. People who are born out of incest are human too, stop acting like the way these people where fucking born makes them deficient. Also stop equating deformities with being evil while your at it
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stackslip · 11 months ago
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Thank you so much for your BPD post. I've had people judge me irl for going from openly identifying as bisexual specifically to IDing as Lesbian (with a secret Bi- for Cool People)/Queer/It's Complicated. And while some of that is genuine shift in my identity, a lot is about seeking medical diagnosis rn and being scared of a BPD diagnosis and I can't explain that to people BC I'm worried they'll take that as manipulative, too. Seeing people talk about how it's genuinely dangerous and how bisexuality is such a factor in the diagnosis is really fucking validating.
i rarely see people talking about the biphobic aspect to how bpd gets diagnosed—one of the main diagnosis criteria is about "disordered/unhealthy sexual behaviors", which immediately pathologises bisexuality and any kind of non-normative sexual behaviour from non-monogamy to having kinks to just enjoying having sex with strangers (and again if you're bi this is included in the non-normative, disordered behaviour). i remember reading how bi/pan women tend to have higher bpd diagnosis rates than heterosexual women and even lesbians bc of the whole "oh you're bi you cant choose a side so i diagnose you with manipulative slut disorder" and i mean i experienced it myself, with a doctor trying to diagnose me despite not even fitting *any other criteria at the time* except that my anger at the abuse i saw in psych ward counted as a "manipulative ourburst" i guess and me being perceived as a bi woman sealed the deal lol. so i feel you entirely, as an nb dyke myself
as a whole id argue that bpd and most psychiatric diagnosises are only as useful as far as they provide you with a community who might share similar issues and in rare cases, being able to support each other. certainly i know friends who are antipsych but id with bpd in terms of being able to better understand specific symptoms of trauma and find tactics to handle said symptoms better, as well as support others with similar delibitating symptoms. but this is what a shared community does that can be good—the truth is, bod and most personality disorder diagnosis are not just fundamentally flawed but used to deny any kind of care or help to already traumatized and depressed people. ive heard cases of "misdiagnosis" of bpd, but id argue any official psychiatric diagnosis is a danger bc it puts a target on you and marks you indefinitely. you could fit the bpd criteria to a T and I'd still argue that a diagnosis is a danger and can actively impede your access to care, and be used as ammo against you by doctors, healthcare providers, family and even random acquaintances because frankly, no matter how nice an individual doctor is, most doctors treat a personality disorder diagnosis as a way to say "this person's shitty and hard to deal with and should be kept away from healthy society" and it's also how it's used by 90% of people (whether in healthcare or otherwise) who love to have a way to distance themselves from Irrevocably Broken People and put any instance of abuse or poor behaviour on them. there's a much wider argument to be had about the harm of psychiatry as a whole, but i have this particular issue at heart. i know so many traumatized and abused people whove been retraumatized and frankly destroyed by being marked with this kind of diagnosis, whose abuse has been justified by their peers bc they have the Broken Slut Disorder or the Has No Feelings Disorder or the Selfish Cunt Disorder. which are all apparently Real and Important medical tool that serve an important function and should never be criticized lol
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dragynkeep · 1 year ago
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Miles fucking Luna just admitted on Cameo bumbleby was made canon soley because of its popularity with shippers and "would have toned down the Black Sun moments" had they known beforehand! Ais, please bully this beta looking crackhead on Twitter for me because I don't have an account and I refuse to get one
i watched the video & 1. why does he look like that & 2. why is he so goddamn close to the camera. back tf up on this cameo you've owed someone for ages, maybe try & be a little professional & not look like you're recording this on your smoke break.
it's also interesting he doesn't mention why he had to turn cameo off for a bit when some of the last cameos he had included misusing the word genocide over a fictional character & then pimping out his own self insert as "bisexual" & having to walk it back when people, desperate for queer mlm representation in this homophobic ass show, were wondering if it was actually going to be canon when. nah. he just said it for money :))
"you asked if there was any behind the scenes info for bumblby, which is hard cause i don't think there's much to talk about" for a ship you've apparently had in the works for 10 years? since the beginning? kept so under wraps? whatever, miles.
ohhh my god miles bringing up that blake is the bisexual queen & "everyone wants to date her" as if he wasn't disgustingly biphobic & joked about getting off to women kissing in front of him as well as asking if bisexual women were "truly bisexual" or just "sipped from the fur cup" with his best friend who sexually harasses women.
it's also weird that this essentially confirms the reason she has the "blake harem" is because she's bisexual, as well as being "cute & pretty." which. fall into a hole, luna, you ugly fuck.
also positing sun & blake on their faunus relationship as the much smaller one while being deluded there was anything to yang & blake over the "much longer relationship" besides a shit ton of shared trauma & no in depth discussions, no romantic connection, nothing until the last two volumes where they were like "welp, better get this yuri train on the road" & invented moments for them out of nowhere that were out of character & did a disservice to their actual characters.
"they're finally in a place where they can admit their feelings to one another" but why? nothing has changed between them, they've actively ignored or pushed aside the so called "baggage & drama" that miles described them going through & in this volume they were essentially made by the environment to confess their feelings, not through any genuine connection. there was no reason that this confession couldn't have happened in all the life threatening situations last volume & i would've been spared yang fetishizing blake's racial features.
overall: this cameo just confirms the worst of what we knew about crwby in regards to sun / blake / yang. whatever was popular was going to be canon, they didn't care or understand their characters motivations & there is so much biphobia in their treatment of their main bisexual character in regards to both her love life & the confirmation of it only coming in a wlw relationship, downplaying all sides of her attraction.
they could've had blake be confirmed bisexual from day one. they could've done more with blake & yang in the early volumes instead of borderline pimping her out to the cast to have a harem because of said bisexuality & her "cuteness" when in what way does that fit the reserved & cautious blake we know?
this is five minutes of my time i'll never get back & i wish miles a very happy get [redacted] because your shitty voice sounds like razor blades in my ear, you unwashed biphobic fuck.
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angelhummel · 2 years ago
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not to be a hater i was just thinking about this recently. the biphobia in Glee is so inconsistent with how its addressed.
like i’m pretty sure the ONLY person who ever gets called out for saying anything remotely biphobic is Kurt (which like im glad bc it was a shitty thing to say. tho i think kurt antis use it to frequently paint this rhetoric that kurt is a bad person bc of one (1) shitty thing he said)
meanwhile santana can say shitty things about bisexuality bc shes mad that brittany is dating sam and thats apparently fine???? she really has the idea that brittany is betraying her for penis which is bizarre. also i feel like she enabled dani’s biphobia as well.
i love santana, but i feel like this issue is heavily glossed over by fans while kurt’s comment is apparently bad enough to crucify him :/
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I know we've talked about it before but I also just thought of it again recently. Bc there was a poll with Here Comes The Sun and someone in the tags was like "I'll vote for anything over Dani's biphobic ass" and it's like well baby girl Santana's biphobic ass is literally standing right next to her. And people sure don't have a problem voting for Santana's songs despite how blatantly biphobic she also is
And also transphobic, we can throw that in there, bc it's always about Penis and Boys hand in hand like there's no other option. Never mind Unique has been on the show for over a season, let's keep equating dick with gross boys and pussy with beautiful lesbian 100% pure sapphic goddesses 😍😍 Bleh it's like they tried to cram in every last shred of offensive sexual language they could think of into one two minute scene
BUT it's not like I'm judging that specific tagger, or anyone else who dislikes Dani. Bc at least Santana is a character with a million other things going for her besides the worst things she's said (exactly like Kurt hi) whereas Dani had like ten lines in her time on the show and half of them were "sapphic goddess" and "i love lady parts" barf
"She enabled Dani's biphobia as well" yeah literally. She could've just said "I was dating a girl and it didn't work out and we broke up" but she specifically threw "and she was bi" into the middle of it like that's part of the reason they broke up lmao. Santana, who tells Brittany that it's okay for her to date someone new, boy or girl, just to throw a fit when Brittany ends up dating Sam and makes it into some weird thing about her need for dick and how she's Less Than bc she's bi. And telling that to a potential new partner so she can reinforce her shitty stereotypes by also being gross about bi people (: Amazing
And anyway bringing it back to Kurt and double standards but like. That's pretty much the only offensive thing Kurt ever said lmao. Like yeah he said some dumb or thoughtless things here and there but if you take out that one glaring fuck up, you're not really left with anything that bad. Whereas if you extract Santana's biphobia from the equation, you're still left with six seasons of racism, homophobia, transphobia, antisemitism, fatphobia...
So yeah :) Double standards, anon, double standards x
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m4ndysk4nkovich · 1 year ago
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Like, Shameless has an issue with biphobia but Debbie is not an example of that. She was a lesbian the whole time, struggling with comphet and a household of older siblings and parents who were very openly having casual sex. Of course, she'd be rushing the have sex with boys as soon as she became a teenager. That's all she saw.
(There's nothing wrong with casual sex, it's just that Debbie had seen mostly that.)
THIS! FUCKING YES, ANON! YES!
kids who grow up in the environment she grew up in tend to behave the same way she does, or the same way fiona, lip, ian, carl, or liam do- but y’all aren’t ready for that convo yet.
and as you said, unfortunately, shameless is a very biphobic show. we got some bi characters, and i don’t know how good the representation is because i’m not bi. the characters we have are monica, frank, karen, v, and caleb. all i know is that caleb is pretty shitty representation because he used his being bisexual as a way to cheat on ian, however ian’s response to that (which was probably just the writers talking about their views through ian, which they do often) was very biphobic.
but you’re right, debbie isn’t an example of that, and people think that she is, which is stupid because she says shes a lesbian SOOO many times throughout the show, especially in season 11. for example, “hot lesbian convict”.
if you’re going to rant about biphobia in shameless, you have a plethora of characters and scenes to choose from. debbie is not a bisexual character. when she was figuring herself out, she didn’t necessarily say it was out of the question (but ian still turned her down because unfortunately he hates bi people because again, the writers chose him to use for their biphobic beliefs) but eventually, by season 10, it is out of the question. she’s lesbian.
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titch-the-eskibro-bandit · 1 year ago
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Hi, I know it's been a while since I've posted. I think something so important is accountability. When you have a public social platform whether you have 4 followers 400 or thousands it's so important to look at behavior both past and present and say yes I did or said this previously I do not support this now. I'm sorry if I said or did anything that was ignorant or just hurtful. Truth is I regret a bunch of things I posted. Of all things arguably my most problematic era was being a Degrassi blog of all things.
There was a time I dismissed Tristan being biphobic very early on when he said a line. He was biphobic. And thank fuck there were so many fans who called out that shit as harmful. Because it was and it still is. Even now it's still such a prevalent thing in the community especially with gay men towards bisexual men. Or lesbians with bisexual women. For someone who is queer herself I shouldn't of defended it the first time I heard it. I shouldn't of defended it period. I go both ways I wouldn't ever want someone to say that to me or anyone on the spectrum of sexuality because there's nothing to change or apologize for. Thank you to every single fan who said it was. Thank you for calling me out at that time even when I was too ignorant to see it for what it was. I am sorry. As an adult. Fuck that shit. Fuck the me that said those things.
Degrassi of all shows normalized a lot of things that shouldn't of been normalized. Katie raping Drew. Zoe doing child pornography to take back power after her assault. Biphobia. Ableism etc. We shouldn't herald a show for having representation as perfect because even shows with spectrums of representations aren't perfect. Or even shows/movies with little representation can fall under the umbrella of problematic normalization. Gossip Girl normalized rape culture with Chuck Bass where he attempted to SA two of the main females in the first episode and later the show demonized one of the girls for having 'sex' with him when she had hit a low point and Chuck took advantage of her. He was romanticized as a romantic lead and good endgame when he was an abusive predator who deserved jail not marriage and a child. Sex in the City Carrie was biphobic and it was normalized. The vampire era normalized so much pedophilia. It's okay to still enjoy the shows, media or movies you consume despite the problematic tendencies if you recognize and call out said problematic tendencies.
Whilst it's easily to look back and be like well oh it was normalized so my reactions at that period are fine. I think it's so important to look inward to yourself and reflect on if you have said or done something harmful to the community you have. I was harmful. It doesn't matter what I was going through. It doesn't even really matter if it was normalized I contributed to a bad stigma which hurt and potentially invalidated people. That's not okay.
Whilst queer representation hasn't 100% improved over the years seeing shows like Kitty x0x0 or schitts creek and many others depict bisexuality, pansexuality and the spectrum in general with so much respect and love makes me want to cry with happiness. I'm so thankful that kids and teens growing up get that. It's important ESPECIALLY if you are depicting a same sex relationship to see gay characters love and respect their spectrumed partners. I want better for the community I'm a part of. I want the representation that's deserved. The world is shitty and scary enough having that small ember of hope is needed.
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jaegerisim · 2 years ago
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Stranger Things charachters as quotes my friends said
Will: I shall defeat thee with the power of faggotry!!!! *flips board of monopoly*
Mike: The only thing gay abt me is that I like dick. That's it. That makes me 50% gay. so don't you dare call me gay!!! Call me half-gay.
(NOTE: he was not being biphobic. He was just being a homophobic homosexual. He is recovered, he has embraced 100% pansexuality)
Lucas: when my mama told me being poc was hard, this is NOT what I pictured!!!
Max: Just so you know, every time you call me a bitch, my ego inflates. 'Cause yeah, I'm a bitch and PROUD! Fuck you.
El: I think I'm the kindest person here, I'm calm, I'm sweet, I'm... *looks at Mike running away* YOU GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE OR IMMA WHOOP IT REAL HARD!!!! *throws a pink and glittery lit-up Skecher*
Dustin: *beatboxing* I'm a genius, yeah. I'm a prodigy, yeah. Am I the best? yeah. Do you guys suck? Most absolutely. *stops* Guys, you have to do the chorus with me bc otherwise, it sounds lame.
Erica: What I lack in height I compensate in bitchiness. Which means I am 4,92126 ft tall plus 4,92126 ft in attitude. So I'm taller than all of you suckers!!
Robin: *to Steve* You've grown on me, man. I think I love you even.... *gets on one knee and holds up a rainbow-colored, heart-shaped Barbie ring* Would you my platonically beloved do the honors of being my unlawfully wedded partner in crime? 'Cause this ring is STOLEN! *sobs* pls help me!!!
Steve: Why did your parents give you such complicated names??? Like, he'll nah! I ain't remembering all those shitty names. *pointing to The Party* from now on you'll be: shit 1, shit 2, shit 3, shit 4, shit 5 and so on and so on *looks at Eddie* and you are: my little beautiful ray of life, ily!! <3
Eddie: My shampoo? *puts manly voice* ALL IN ONE SHAMPOO FOR REAL MEN!!! IT WASHES YOUR HAIR, IT COMBS, AND YOU CAN EVEN USE THIS TO WASH YOUR CAR!!!
Nancy: *in a Stitch pajama onesie* ok, everyone, as the most mature person here I...
Argyle: *hits the blunt* yesterday i was thinking... and thinking... and thinking... thinking... And that was weird as hell, dude!
Jonathan: *high af* When my family told me I was gonna take care of my lil bro I did not expect this shit. Like, bitch, why you so complicated? why can't your problems just be that your tongue got stuck to a glue stick??? Like any other NORMAL person?
Murray: I have a perfect gaydar!! For example, I know my bf is gay!! See? Never misses!!
Joyce: *in an emergency* imma follow my zen book. Count to ten, ok. I can do that shit. 1... 2... 3... 4.... 5... 6... 7... 8... 9... 10... ok, now what?? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I'VE COUNTED TO FUCKING TEN AND IM STILL STRESSED, HUH?? CHECKMATE BOOK!!! HAHA!! I WIN!!!! *throws book on floor and stomps on it*
Hopper: Where did my fucking life go?? Like, I had it here, and then POOF. gone forever.... Imma go and find it. COME OUT, COME OUT WHEREVER YOU ARE... YOU LITTLE SHIT!!
And I think I've covered most Stranger Things characters. If I've forgotten one tell me and I'll add them! :D
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feathered-serpents · 2 years ago
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What even is bisexual lesbian and why did twitter got worked up about it??
Bisexual lesbian is, from my understanding, kind of a label that is different for everyone. For some people it means lesbian who also dates non-binary people, for some it means someone who prefers women so strongly they identify greatly with the word lesbian but have had very few instances of being attracted towards other genders. For some they identify with one label in one way and the other in another way (for example: Lesbian as a gender/experience label, bisexual as a sexuality. Vice versa. It's whatever)
Twitter got up in arms about it because of three reasons (that I saw the most often)
It's transphobic
Lesbians can't like men/non-women
It is biphobic/lesbiphobic
Number 1 is referring to some people using bisexual-lesbian to mean they were a lesbian attracted to trans women AS WELL AS cis women. This is obviously transphobic as you're implying that trans women are somehow not "real women" and attraction to them deserves an entire label of its own. So that's shitty. But it's worth noting there is no proof this is where the label originated and I find it kind of hard to swallow an argument that boils down to "Some people who use this label SUCK so, therefore, this label SUCKS" when that's true for literally every queer identity that ever exists. Queer people are people, sometimes people suck. There is no queer label that proves "shitty person" or "good person." We've had that discussion before and it's Bad
Number 2 is kind of. Incredibly online. Very obvious that these people have not researched any of their own history and would probably tell a bisexual woman she can't use terms like "butch, fem, dyke" etc. Historically, lesbian just meant "woman attracted to other women." That's it. It didn't have to be exclusively women, it was just ANY attraction to women. This makes this argument feel weirdly ignorant and would probably make a 70-year-old queer person look at you like you were insane
And finally number 3. Which reeks of virtue signaling. Because you will never really get anyone to explain to you how it's these things. The most common sort of explanation you get is "clearly this person is uncomfortable identifying with one over the other because of internalized biphobia and lesbiphobia, so they just use both without having to pick" and I just. I don't like it. I don't like telling people what they're feeling. If someone has picked a label, I don't understand how you could feel so entitled to this stranger's psyche to decide they're doing it for the wrong reasons. You don't KNOW them. It is never your business how someone else chooses to identify
Number 3 also often hand in hand with "it harms real lesbians/real bisexuals" and by GOD does that infuriate me. "Real lesbians" is the most terfy thing I've ever seen in my life and I saw people on twitter who claimed to hate terfs use it without any self-awareness whatsoever. And "harms" them? How? HOW are they harming them? Because I promise you, some twitter girl identifying as a bisexual-lesbian is NOT ever going to do anywhere near the same amount of harm as the republican lawmakers who have made it their life's MISSION to take every strand of human rights we've been given away from us.
And if you're thinking that the existence of bisexual-lesbians was going to make some frat dude utterly convinced that he can cure lesbians with his penis feel like he suddenly has a chance. Newsflash. That is not the bisexual-lesbians fault. That dude does not see women has capable of making choices that could possibly exclude him. That is ENTIRELY his problem. You're looking at someone doing something heinous and instead of punishing him, you're looking at some completely random individual and going "See what you've done? You enabler"
Look, bisexual, lesbian, they're both beautiful words that deserve to be used by whoever wants to use them. The person using these labels probably fought for YEARS to become comfortable with them enough to associate them with themselves. I have not met a single queer person who did not fight that fight, you do not, under any circumstances, have the right to take that from them. Lesbian is a gorgeous word that means something different to everyone, bisexual is just as gorgeous and is just as personal. You do not have the right to take them away just because you don't understand its personal meaning to someone else
TLDR; Being queer is a deeply personal experience and queer labels are beautiful things. You have no right to tell anyone they can't use a label they want. Queer exclusion is always bad
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redheadbigshoes · 2 years ago
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Idk if you heard about the US no fly list being hacked, but the person who did it is a self identified bi lesbian that now has thousands of eyes on her publicly with 20k+ followers and counting and huge ongoing exposure due to this & I just know this shit is not going to end well for lesbians & the more these people spread this message that lesbians can like men I just hate being a lesbian & feel that we have no place here anymore. I'm already loathed enough being non-binary yet somehow the shit I have seen & gone thru since coming out as lesbian has been astronomically worse and it keeps getting worse the more people choose to ignore us about our own damn identity. I just know this exposure is gonna get more people identifying as bi lesbian and I'm just done at this point I don't even want to be associated with my queerness anymore or this community which seems bent on hating us. I genuinely fucking hate myself and wish I was dead atp
Oh my I had no idea… Ironic how she is a hacker lol, seems chronically online, like every “bi lesbian” I’ve met. I think what’s most frustrating is that I feel like no matter what we say people (especially “bi lesbians”) don’t care at all about us. I feel completely powerless because I can talk about “bi lesbians” forever and the people who identify as that will never care about how shitty using that label is.
That’s why other people in the community (bisexuals, gays, literally everyone else) should try to give us more support on this issue, because people are way more likely to listen to them than listen to us. Not to mention that label is not only lesbophobic but it’s also biphobic and transphobic. If people understood that I’m sure there would be more non-lesbians speaking up and calling out queers who use that label.
The LGBTQ+ community normalize things that shouldn’t be normalized sometimes. It seems that because we suffer a lot of hate (whether that is homophobia, transphobia, lesbophobia, biphobia…) that a lot of queers think they can do anything just for their own benefit and comfort. And I know people who do that are not only chronically online but stupid af, but it amazes me how they don’t seem to notice some of their behavior is only giving allo cishets more ways of invalidating us and hating us. They’re indirectly siding with people who oppress us and they either have no idea they’re doing that or they don’t fucking care because being chronically online they will not be affected as much as someone who will face hate in real life.
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