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deeply-unserious-fellow · 7 months ago

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No okay bcuz actually I DO want to explain my thoughts from this post here because I love analyzing things and I think talking abt Vox's relationships thru the lens of "this is just like Buffy fr fr" could be fun :)

FIRST OFF: VoxVal as Spike & Drusilla. I do not know their ship name and tbh I'm probably never gonna talk about them again so whooooo cares. To state the obvious, in this situation Vox is Spike and Val is Dru. Now, it's been awhile since I've watched Buffy, but from what I remember, Spike & Drusilla really are THE toxic villain couple, in that they're both like. Not very good to or for eachother, all things considered, but goddamnit they love eachother SO MUCH- which really is the generous interpretation of Staticmoth. I'm not gonna go super in depth into the fucking. Is Staticmoth abusive debate rn. Because I have one million other posts that make my stance on that pretty clear I think. But the uh... nicer interpretation of their relationship is very much Spike & Drusilla I think. Like right down to the headcannon of Vox liking how Val's shit eyesight & temper tantrums makes him kind of dependent on him. Again, could be misremembering, but based off of how Spike was w/ Dru while she was weakened(and based off of how he rebounded w/ Harmony of all people 💀), I get the distinct vibe that, despite his frustrations, Spike did like having somebody relying on him the way Dru(and later Harmony) did. Vox def seems like the type of guy that would get a kick out of feeling Needed and Relied On(why else would he literally route the entire Pride rings power grid through himself-), and Valentino is. Well. Valentino. I'm not gonna go over their interaction before Stayed Gone because it makes me ~genuinely uncomfortable~ for reasons I have, once again, gone into in depth before, but suffice it to say that it's definitely in character for Vox to be into Val relying on him like that. Oh also, like somebody pointed out in the reblogs on the original post, the reason Spike & Dru broke up from s3 all the way to their reunion in s5 is that she cheated on him and that's. Yeah that sounds about right.

And second, the Staticradio twins: Spuffy and Spangel. Why the fuck did I call them the Staticradio twins? I don't know I'm tired as shit and just used most of my brain power on the VoxVal segment now get off my back- anyways, these two are actually pretty easy to explain so I'll just get right into it! Most of the similarities between Staticradio and Spuffy can really be summed up in the song Reat In Peace from Buffy's musical episode. One-sided, obsessive crush on someone who you know deep down will probably never reciprocate. You want them to just leave you the fuck alone and stay gone(hahahahahahahahah), but they just. Aren't. Like even the bits about being a dead guy without a heart beat are spot on because Vox is a motherfuckin DEMON who is a ROBOT!!!!!!! Also the Alastor Body Pillow fanon(which IS fanon. It is. I'm sorry to say but that wasn't a thing on the Instagrams y'all-) does line up with the uh. The Buffy sex bot- it does line up with the Buffy sex bot. Anyways moving on to the Spangel section-

"You were my sire man!" - Spike, to Angel, in his introduction episode. I don't remember if this was retconned in season 5(or 6?) to be Dru siring Spike? It might've been. But for the sake of this post lets pretend it wasn't. Angel was basically Spike's mentor for a lot of their time together pre-show. They ran around in their weird little vampire polycule causing problems for everyone and life was good! Then Angel got cursed. Bro got a soul and then ran away for years without a word to anyone. Then, cut to current day, and Spike is hyped to see him right up to the point he realizes Angel has Changed. And from that point onward to two are RIVALS!!!!! Narrative foils, even. And while it isn't exactly the same as Alastor and Vox's history, it's pretty damn similar right!? Al was(presumably) Vox's friend and mentor for YEARS, like to the point of being comfortable taking a picture with him. Then something happens between them, causing a rivalry to form. Throw somewhere in the mix Al's deal & him fucking off for 7 years... it's like the same pieces being put together in a new way to make a different puzzle. Is Rosie Darla in this analogy? Unclear. Val is still Dru though. Do y'all get where I'm coming from? It's far, FAR from the same thing, like there are so many fucking differences and that's just going off of the stuff we DO know(I want to know more god I can't wait for season 2-), but the dynamics ARE similar. They're narrative foils with a deep history w/ eachother where they were probably-definitely friends, something caused them to become RIVALS, and also one of them is cursed and dissappeared for several years-

Whoo boy this got kinda incoherent- Anyways, that brings me to my brand new fun and interesting point: Vox and Spike are kinda similar characters. They're both antagonists who wanna be Big Tough Scary guys so bad, and like. They are. They are big tough AND scary. Sometimes. But for the vast majority of their screen time, their emotions, capacity for love(no matter how twisted their version of love is), and the consequences of that love going wrong continually get the better of them and cause them to look to us, the audience, like silly pathetic wet cats we found on the side of the road. Then they get Weird about it(Vox's "rivalry" w/ Angel and the. Buffy sex bot.) and we remember oh yeah this guy is EVIL! They also both wear long jackets and are bisexual :)

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girl4music · 1 year ago

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I have brought up myself once about how abuse in love relationships isn’t as black and white as people think it is. Yes, of course it’s awful. But it doesn’t mean love isn’t there. In some cases with couples in the show, like with Willow and Tara, the abuse is brought about because of the character’s love for the other character, or more specifically because of not wanting to lose that love. It’s wrong, but again, it doesn’t mean that there’s no love there. Of course there is. It’s just confused with obsession and possession. The fear of loss and insecurity of not being worthy of someone’s love. And, as the saying goes, you always hurt the one you love because of all the chaos that’s going on within the self.

Buffy and Spike’s relationship is very abusive and tumultuous because they start off on opposing sides. They start off as enemies. But the one thing that has to be remembered when talking about this is that fate has made it that way. They never chose it to be that way. It’s just how it is. It’s not natural for them to love. So the abuse, in all honesty, is only appropriate as that is what is natural for them. They instinctively hurt one another because that’s what they’re supposed to do. Only, they go through an unnatural shift in which they begin to defy that instinct. For Spike in particular, actively chooses to go against it once he realizes he can. Once he understands that he does have a choice. There’s that word again. That theme. CHOICE. That’s what makes Spike a redeemable character. His choices. Because as Dumbledore from Harry Potter put it: “It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.” Spike, despite being a vampire (souled or soulless), despite fate, despite nature and despite the odds, CHOSE to be on the side of good. It is not just his love for Buffy that decided that or that made him choose good over evil. It’s his empathy for everyone that he felt was good or was deserving or even that he could relate to or understand.

Regardless of the love he feels for Buffy - Spike is a GOOD person.

He is a good person with or without a soul simply because he chooses to be.

So while the excuse of being soulless/ensouled does hold up with some, it doesn’t for me. I think it’s a very rudimentary way of looking at it.

Furthermore, it’s made quite clear that he is never afforded the same respect as a do-gooder as Angel is - who’s nature is to be evil despite having a soul - who never chooses either way - who would rather brood and dwell in self-contempt than actually be useful - and who is forgiven far too easily for my liking.

Whether that means Spike deserves Buffy’s love or that their relationship should be celebrated as love or they should be shipped as a couple is still debatable.

But simply the excuse of “because he doesn’t have a soul” and “because he has a soul” is a pathetic excuse because it’s an excuse that doesn’t hold up well in a TV show Universe that blurs the lines between good and evil and that is grey.

CHOICE is the fundamental and most reiterated theme throughout BtVS and the character Spike represents that theme just as much as the character Buffy does.

You ask ‘Why shouldn’t they be shipped as a couple?’

I have my reasons but they don’t revolve around whether Spike has a soul or not. In fact they have much more to do with Buffy why I choose not to ship them.

Nevertheless, so much of Season 7 was about the Spuffy relationship that it was basically the secondary plot of the season. And for me, it was about the only reason I wanted to carry on watching it. There’s some Willow stuff too, but other than that… I just couldn’t stand how messy it was in plot consistency, character consistency etc. Spuffy was pretty much the saving grace of Season 7.

I do think Buffy had completely fallen in love with Spike by the end of the show. But for me, the expression she gives wasn’t so much for Spike’s sake so he would go through with the sacrifice. But that could be part of it. I more read the expression as her taking in the thought that maybe Spike was right about her admitting her love for him. That she wasn’t in love with him.

Why? Because she never believes of herself for what she really is or even for how she really feels. That’s that inferiority complex about having a superiority complex. There’s always a huge part of her psyche struggling with this problem with whether she deserves to be called a hero or not when she is a woman just like any other woman.

That’s something Spike did for her. Helped her to overcome both complexes by basically telling her and validating that her heroics are not something to be ashamed about but rather should be celebrated because she is a woman. Which is why ‘Empty Places’ is… ugh… And why it makes sense that Spike is the only one that defends her and calls out her fair-weather friends. He gets it because he gets her as both the Slayer and the Woman. Because much of Spuffy’s relationship is the juxtapositions between Man/Monster and Woman/Slayer. And if you read my recap for ‘Crush’ I explain that in depth.

It’s all right in Spike’s monologue in ‘Touched’. Read it again for good measure:

“I’ve been alive a bit longer than you. And dead a lot longer than that. I’ve seen things you couldn’t imagine. And done things I’d prefer you didn’t… Don’t exactly have a reputation for being a thinker. I follow my blood, which doesn’t exactly rush in the direction of my brain. So I make a lot of mistakes. A lot of wrong bloody calls. A hundred plus years. And there’s only one thing I’ve ever been sure of. You… Hey, look at me. I’m not asking you for anything. When I say I love you, it’s not because I want you. Or because I can’t have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you *are*. What you do. How you try… I’ve seen your kindness, and your strength. I’ve seen the best and the worst of you. And I understand, with perfect clarity, exactly what you are… You’re a hell of a woman… You’re the One, Buffy.”

So, for me, I think the reason why she doesn’t respond back and just simply smiles is because this is something she’s going to have to process a little more than in that 5 second window of opportunity to prove to Spike that she really does love him. Because she wasn’t ready yet to believe in the revelation that she had in that moment. She hasn’t come to an understanding on it yet and doesn’t have the time to right then and there. So she says nothing and instead conveys her feelings by holding his hand in the flames ready to engulf him. Knowing this is something she has to let him do for his own sake. But even if she tried to convince him of it, he’d likely still be adamant about his choice of sacrifice because he has seen her do the same over and over again and has learned through her about what it means to truly be a hero. To put others before himself. To sacrifice. To stand for the greater good. You see, he hasn’t been able to understand that about her until now. It was the one place where they were not equal. Not anymore. Now they are as of one nature.

#buffy the vampire slayer #chosen #spuffy #spike and buffy #buffy and spike #relationships #buffy summers #sarah michelle gellar #spike #james marsters #love #abuse #nature #choice #redemption #heroism #naj #buffy reaction

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giftedeath · 11 months ago

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ok been putting this off for some time now but it needs to be said. some divergences under the cut

big thing is bangel, i don't really believe that she ever gave him 'hope' in season 7, cookie dough analogy aside, that they'd ever be anything other than what they had been for the last 4 years which was basically just exes who talked about saving the world sometimes. i think that they're just really so much cuter and so much funnier as friends and exes and two people who know that they fundamentally do not belong together, and that's ok. angel was so important to her, changed her, their relationship effected her years down the line ( riley too ) but he's the boyfriend she was in love with when she was a child. and i think apart of buffy growing and learning, is that she's never really going to be able to love him the same way she once did because she's not that girl anymore. and that's ok !! idk what the comics do with them, idrc, i just do know that their breakup/and the staying broken up is really essential to the way i write buffy. also think my beloved cordelia was much better suited for angel than buffy ever was. david fury said something about angel needing a "big smile" and he was right.

ok now the thing i've kinda been dreading lol spikey ... lets talk about spuffy yeah!! so... given all that we know, these 20+ years later, i think im just going to get to the point which is i don't acknowledge the writers' decision to make him an attempted rapist, don't care for it, i pretend like that scene in seeing red never happened. and there's layers to why, but basically, i just think it was unnecessary. the writers' way of punishing not only the audience for making a "soulless" vampire the fan favorite/forcing wh*don to keep him around, but also punishing buffy herself for having sex with him and enjoying it !! there's a lot of implications in that scene, i could go on forever but it was very cheap of them to do it, and basically in my head, spike doesn't need this scene to prompt him into getting the soul back because season six had already been a really good set up for that ie. when warren kills katrina / frames buffy and spike attempts to help her by getting rid of the body etc. it's the "why can't you understand why this is killing me?" and "i dont know why don't you try explaining it" im paraphrasing but that right there is enough for me and most of the audience to understand exactly why he would have gone to get his soul for her. also the "i know im not a man but u make me feel like one." but also just spike's general im not a man im not a demon then what am i ? arc !!! like its right there. i dont need to see my favorite character almost get sa'd by my other favorite character for that point to get across. it was definitely a condescending moment from the writers' room, we see it time and time again. ( most recently we saw it with aegon ii in house of the dragon ) "how do we make a character so evil how do we make the audience hate him ? ah yes rapist !" and im just not going to play into that <3 ( but there is also the subtext and very meaningful metaphor of spike being buffy's shadow self in s5/s6, he is empty w/out the soul - she is empty after being brought back/coming back wrong. he regains his soul in s7, and she is able to heal & love herself etc. etc. )

that's how i feel about that but also !!! i am a lesbian and this relationship has always spoken to me in a very queer way this post explains it so well. i rly suggest everyone read bc thats like . my mind

#about angel and spike #i make a mockery of death and a spectacle of survival › hc.#kinda #why are you full of rage ? / because you are full of grief › meta.#sa mention /#assault mention /#grooming mention /#rape mention /

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sunnydaleherald · 2 years ago

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The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter - Monday, December 12

BUFFY: Training. Slaying. All of it. It's just ... I mean ... I can beat up the demons until the cows come home. And then I can beat up the cows ... but I'm not sure I like what it's doing to me.

~~Intervention~~

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[Drabbles & Short Fiction]

Armored Xander (Myths &legends, FR15) by Balder

Back In the Fold (Spike/Angelus, M) by Bloody_Willamina

Useless One (Xander, G) by ErebusBeck

Here Comes Santa Claus (Buffy/Spike, R) by Slaymesoftly

Sorted (Buffy/Spike, R) by DarkVoid116

we are home now (out of our heads, out of our minds) (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by trevino

A Dream Is A Wish your Heart Makes (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by cawthraven

Can't Say Goodbye (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by Asokatanos

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Hell’s Wedding Bells Chapter 2 (Buffy/Spike, M) by Geliot99, RavenLove12

He Slays Monsters Chapter 1 (Buffy/Faith, E) by BeatriceEveryTuesday

Hexball Chapter 1 (Buffy/Faith, T) by TyrannicalReader

Kingslayer - (Working Title) Chapter 1 (Dragon age crossover, E) by AliciaWrites_RaeleiaL

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Monky Business Chapter 1-5 (Buffy/Spike, R) by Girlytek

Harry Dresden and the Littlest Witch, part I Chapter 110 (Dresden Files crossover, FR-13) by DianeCastle

Bound Chapter 35 (Buffy/Spike, NC-17) by RavenLove12

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cabeswaterdrowned · 2 years ago

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for the ot3 your top4 ships

Spuffy ehh I could go for Spike x Buffy x Faith only in the context of Spike and Faith are platonic Faith is a lesbian edit: oh and I could get on board with Buffy x Spike x Angel. I have read a couple fics (I could only find BA tolerable if either Spike or Cordelia was involved ot3 wise Cordelia would be better)

Fuffy I have two Ot3’s with them I actively love and they’re Buffy x Faith x Willow and Faith x Buffy x Tara the former has so many layers to it I’m obsessed with the way it’s played as a little like a love triangle on all sides in late s3, I’m a Faith x Willow truther i love the way their arcs parallel each other and they have a fun antagonistic chemistry (I was also all about Glitra on Spop and their dynamic is very similar so lmao ) and while it’s not as high as other dynamics on my buffyverse femslash list I have grown to quite like Buffy x Willow and find it interesting romantically especially circa s3 (I never felt that way about Adora and Glimmer though I was solely there for Catradora and Glitra Glitra slightly more than Catradora at a certain point but only slightly. And truth be told a lot of that is because I see both those dynamics as analogous to their Btvs counterparts but as much as I love Catradora it isn’t Fuffy / doesn’t hold a candle to my love for them while Glitra canon development and arc actually nailed my ideal Willow x Faith dynamic I would have liked to see if later seasons were as interested in it as I was so it was like a little treat just for me…anyway off topic). Basically a lot of messy fun to be had with that ot3 meanwhile I think Tara x Buffy x Faith would compliment each other really well like I love Buffy x Tara they’re so lovely together my best girls and Tara and Faith have interesting parallels both being from abusive family situations being lesbians being othered for different reasons, Tara is so non judgemental which is why she gets along with Anya and Spike so well and that could be really lovely for Faith and Tara liked gutsy women too . I think Tara as a third part of that relationship would really help along the aspect of Fuffy post series where they’d have to put in a lot of work to have a romantic relationship and trust after the events of canon so. I just think it’s a great idea. I would also be very here for a slayers4slayers4slayers pairing in Buffy x Faith x Kendra. I’m sure I wouldn’t be opposed to other Fuffy f/f/f Ot3’s either

Literati I could see Jess x Rory and Paris x Rory while Paris and Jess are simply best friends. But you’ll notice I have a lot less energy for this than I do for my #2 list

Andreil well I love Kandreil ofc!! No explanation needed

Thank you! <3

Send me an OTP and I’ll tell you who I’d ot3 them with

#S speaks #btvs #she ra #(which didn’t have a ship in my top 4 but I did talk about it a lot lol)#Gilmore girls #aftg #mysoulintwo #Mutuals

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raisedbythetv89 · 1 year ago

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Using a beloved anti-hero/fictional serial killer - Dexter to illustrate a point about buffy - STAY WITH ME lol HEAR ME OUT OK

Imagine if during Dexter we got a season where something happened to him where the guilt of killing somehow became enough to stop him needing to kill (he still had the impulse but could control it and not act in it) and he became tasked with being the protector and guardian of a 15 year old girl of a person he killed as penance. A way to right a wrong and work towards his redemption for all the innocent lives he took along the way for the sake of his survival and not getting caught. (Not penance for the actual evil ppl he killed just to clarify)

And INSTEAD when she’s 16 he starts to develop a romantic relationship with her, openly discussing that it’s wrong but not doing anything of substance to stop it from happening and their relationship eventually causes him to start killing again and he doesn’t do anything to stop the girl from believing it’s her fault. Eventually Dexter abandons her when he realizes she holds no true redemption for himself and maybe he is just causing her more harm than good but does continue to lead her on by making her believe if one day he does enough good they can finally be together - you know like this young girl is his reward for being a good enough boy.

This is the framework for Buffy and Angel’s relationship without the vampires and the 231 year age gap.

If you enjoy Bangel I will never judge or shame you for it we all get to like what we like freely because at the end of the day it’s fictional and liking things in fiction never hurt anyone.

BUT if you’re a bangel who likes to act morally superior and judge spuffy’s and cry “seeing red” every chance you get (which truly just like WHY we all will never forget, that moment was so traumatizing for everyone involved including the actors. Spuffys just look at everything AFTER that episode that was Spike’s fantastic redemption arc and Buffy’s forgiveness, as well as everything that came before (the context that spike and buffy had a very blurred boundaries, sexual and physical relationship without a safe word and with established treatment of each other that lied WELL outside the norms of healthy relationships with regular humans without superpowers and super strength) Rather than the traumatizing standalone attempted SA scene from buffy that was the ONLY ONE that was actually filmed in a graphic and horrifying way vs alllll the other ones that blow right past actual SA or severely violating memories/minds/bodily autonomy - angel, willow, faith, ethan, giles/the council and xander’s violations of buffy, spike, riley, anya, giles and tara to name just the examples I can think of off the top of my head - angel, willow, faith, giles and ethan all with souls when they did it! vs soulless spike.

Maybe reconsider not throwing stones from your glass house when my ship’s framework without the vampires is: two enemies who have killed a lot of the other’s side and who were tasked with killing each other but instead fall in love despite their best efforts not to (not without hurting each other in the process of course, it literally would not be ENEMIES to lovers if they didn’t do awful things to each other along the way we are fully aware of both spike and buffy’s problematic behaviors) but both being SIGNIFICANTLY better people for it by the end of both the tv show and the comics because they both take accountability, apologize and seek to right their wrongs when they do cause that harm to each other and treat each other as equals.

Basically bangels and spuffys will NEVER agree or see things eye to eye because of the vastly different nature of these two frameworks of relationship dynamics so stick to your respective sides of the fandoms and we can all just have a chill, fun, sexy, sad, peaceful time lol ok? OK thanks 💜

#spuffy #spike btvs #spike and buffy #buffy and spike

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annbourbon · 3 months ago

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9 People you wanna Know Better:

Thanks for the tag @kpchrs

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I disappeared for a while~ but I'm back!!! Sorry to leave this hanging on for so long.

No pressure tags: @icedart21 @ginatrerotola @smol-grey-tea @yooseven-heaven @theoddlydrawnmuffins @theliteraryarchitect @cherrychipheart @bl00000g @playlistbyjo @mirusuchanne

(i would mention you too @kpchrs but lol you're already here~, although I do want to get to know you better♡)

Three ships: This took me some time lol but besides Spuffy which I'm not even gonna mention because it's obvious by now:

I guess it's Kisten Phelps x Rachel Morgan (The Hollows), Anna x Hao (Shaman King) and Yeon-Joo x Kang Chul (W: Two Worlds)

I added some honorable mentions to: Rachel Morgan x Trent Kalamack (i'm still unsure about this lol but i do love them because it wasn't love at first sight but it progressed slowly~), Inuyasha x Kagome (Inuyasha) and Tomoe x Nanami (Kamisama Kiss)

First Ship: lol it's so difficult but I guess the one that made me go down really badly was Hao x Anna (Shaman King) which was the reason I started to write fanfics, and the reason I decided to become a fashion designer (still working on this), and basically the reason I'm most of the person I'm right now~

Also I would add Kisten x Rachel because this ship was the one that made me love jazz and blues... and cured my depression in so many ways it made me go back to write and to start learning languages, and many other things. I didn't even think that was possible. Rachel Morgan is kind of... well is a redhead version of me lol we have a lot of things in common tbh~ even the way she acts it's 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣😭 yes, that's me. I wish I could say it's getting better and I'm less impulsive but sometimes I crave chaos I guess? Dunno~

Last Song: You Belong with Me by Taylor Swift (TV)

Last Movie: I've been into series lately but the kast movie I saw was, A Man Called Otto (I loved it and I'm gonna make a brief review on it soon~ it was on HBO Max but it's not anymore~ if you can catch it, watch it. You'll never regret it. It's very sweet♡)

Currently Watching: True Blood. Yeah~ I haven't finished yet lol mid season 5 of True Blood, watching Law School again~, just finished with Spinning Out series like yesterday~, Mr. Queen. Yes. Still watching. I'm on episode 18 so I'll be finishing this ine pretty quickly. Went back to Crash Landing On You because it's the thing that makes me swoon lol.... add Gossip Girl because it's good noise to work with lolol

Stopped Hotel Del Luna on E8. And My Demon by episode 10 rn.

Watching House (S3E17) S.W.A.T. (S.1.Ep7), Ready set love ep.2, True Beauty S1E13, Gilmore Girls S6E2 (can you believe I still have to finish watching it first time here?), 2 Broke Girls S1E17, Supernatural S13E14,

Watching Parasite (E2), Ouran Host Club again~ E10, and I'm definitely actively watching Angel's Last Mission: Love.... I might be forgetting more of these but y'all have my lists here~ in case you're curious or want some recs.

Currently Reading: Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn,

Why does he do that? by Lundy Bancroft, and Grimm's Fairytales (ADHD is real lol) I cannot focus on just one book cause I get distracted and easily bored by reading these books... although gotta be honest, my main issue is that I'm doing this as part of my studies, which makes my ADHD worsen.

I need these books, and while I'm reading I'm also taking notes~~~ and I'm also thinking on many ways to quote and use these on the videos I'm working rn... and I'm currently working on at least 6 videos, and my future streaming... sooooooo yeah lol my ADHD is crazy and I need to read several things at the same time rn.

Currently Eating: Nothing

Currently Craving: E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G. LOL

Did I mentioned i'm gonna get some tests tomorrow? So I'm in middle of my fasting~~ and it's one of those things, like, you know when you are fasting all by yourself because you want to lose some pounds, it's easier than when doctors say you're not allowed to eat. You keep craving on everything. Actually I wasn't that hungry earlier on. Until it was already past the hour of eating LOL i'm kinda starving and craving everything~ tomorrow is gonna be so annoying cause I have a lot of tests done.

The only fun part is to watch the process. I keep freaking out everyone because I tend to watch while they poke me to draw blood. But it's fun~~ \\^♡^//

god lol idk if someone is gonna actually read this lololol but if you made it~ thx for reading all that♡

Yeah~~~ I'm that weird I guess? LOL sorry

BTW~ I swear idk what's happening to me but I'm getting insanely obsessed with Eric Northman right now TT like, I can't even~ I hsd to stop watching True Blood;; and even now it's like, he's in my system. Been so obsessed I keep dreaming about him day and night, it's getting weird lol especially because he's not even my type TT like wtf?

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Thanks for the tag, @justsolas! Will be around for your BTVS watching still lol

I'm no pressure tagging: @annbourbon @burntblueberrywaffles @cha-cha-arts @weer02 @varlysca @olya-roo @robinplume @datcrazyanniegurl @tumblingghosts

Three ships: Spuffy, Hellcheer, and Snowbaird.

First ship: No idea. It's either Naruto x Sakura (Naruto) or Tappei x Miiko (Kocchimuite Miiko (lol do I reveal my location by revealing I know that manga)). But the ship I will count as the real first is Ichigo x Rukia (Bleach), because above two are the kid me testing the waters (of fandom and shipping) and not actually shipping them.

Last song: Taylor Swift's Guilty as Sin?

Last movie: Uh...what was it... Oh. It's a South Korean film called Hijack 1971. A good one. It's about a commercial pilot whose plane got hijacked and forced to go to North Korea. I knew about it happening but didn't know it wasn't a one time thing.

Currently reading: My...Mandarin textbook lol The last novel I tried reading was a Fear Street one.

Currently watching: I'm stopping right now in the middle of S4, but Angel the Series.

Currently eating: Nothing but the black ice of my soul.

Currently craving: A big bowl of fruit slices 😭 By big I mean HUGE. And hanging out in a classy café. Doing nothing in particular.

#annabourbon #danteann #dynamics #lol

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chasingfictions · 3 years ago

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Hi!! I would love to hear all the reasons you think Spuffy are the best match for each other and why you prefer them to Bangel. (Same, by the way :))

ok bestie hello this is an insane question first of all because no one should just give me free reign to talk about spuffy bc i could very well be here all day

first i'll say! i dont like, hate bangel. dkjfkdsf i feel like every time i reblog an anti bangel post i have the tag '#anti bangel #i dont hate them but tagging for blacklists" etc etc. because like, to me spuffy and bangel are just serving very different narrative functions, you know? and i think they both do those narrative functions very effectively! like there are levels and levels and levels to this.

but if we wanna look at it in the most basic terms of story structure, i consider bangel a tragedy in the classical sense and spuffy a comedy in the classical sense. when i say comedy i dont necessarily mean humor (though also i DO bc, as my catchphrase goes, spike btvs said it's always a joke and it's always serious!!!).

simply speaking: tragedy ends in despair and comedy ends in joy. [insert requisite 'obviously it's much more complicated than that but that's not what we're here to talk about' here] ... anyway this is gonna be Long so i'm readmore-ing bon appetit

bangel & the tragedy of heteronormativity

like i know spuffy has the reputation as like the tragic and edgy and depressing of the two ships, and i do get why, but to me bangel fulfills that function much more profoundly. they just ... don't work. like, for this lovely shining moment they do, and they're so caught up in each other, and it's that first love insanity of you can't even process what's happening you're just so totally overcome with the feeling. but critically that lasts for like, a second? like, it's basically "the dark age" to "surprise" that bangel is like, officially together and dating and happy. this is also coincidentally my favorite bangel era! like, just a freaky slayer and her freaky creature of the night boyfriend and they're horny and obsessed with each other and making out in cemeteries and having monster-face makeouts at the ice rink when buffy still has demon blood on her skate blades :))) like :)))) that's the good stuff :)))

ive also seen buffy just like, a million times, and i definitely had a lot more tenderness for them in a romantic sense on earlier watches, and then rewatching this time around i realized really all of that tenderness is basically about that era, which lasts for a narrative second. like the thing that struck me during my current rewatch of s1 and s2 is how long they spend in this weird posturing communication breakdown cycle and circling around each other like cage fighters. and they do have some moments in s3 that romantically-speaking i find compelling — or ok, just the "bad girls" arm jump is coming to mind right now but im sure there are others maybe lol (and even the bad girls arm jump is like,,, okay liam if buffy summers jumped into MY arms at the bronze i would experience a moment of spiritual ecstasy and yet you are not remotely looking like youre having a good time .... get help and appreciate her more).

but also the other thing that struck me in this rewatch of s3 is they break up like, every other episode? which narratively i do find equal parts hilarious and compelling from a structural standpoint. like okay obviously they are broken up to begin with in "beauty and the beasts" (broken up is kind of a hilariously small description for what they are at that point, but we're itemizing here). and then they friend break up in "lovers walk." and then they get back together in "amends" and break up again / go on a break in "enemies" and then reconcile in "earshot" and then break up For Real in "the prom" and then have that mini-reconciliation in that same episode and then are obviously still full of romantic context in "graduation day: part i" and she calls him her lover and they essentially have a sex scene when he bites her, and then they break up for good for good in "graduation day: part ii" ... pause for intake of breath bc i do feel like i just ran a marathon

— and to me that speaks to their asynchronousness!!! like the beauty and also the tragedy of bangel is that they almost work, and they want to work, but they can't, and they don't. like, to me they're just not equally matched as a couple. angel has this frustrating paternalism towards buffy (see: calling xander "just a kid" and telling faith she's "not much more than a child" and soulless angel calling buffy "kiddo" and it's like okay so clearly you do see her as naive and childlike and that's a Weird Relationship To Have To Your Partner...). He's constantly making these unilateral decisions that affect them both without consulting her — "i will remember you" is a great example of this to me. like people lift that up as a reason their relationship would work if they were just "normal." but in that episode angel makes a decision to alter buffy's memories and timeline and doesn't even tell her afterwards. or in "graduation day" — like obviously you can break up with your partner at any time you're allowed to do that, but the fact that he says he's just going to leave town and not say goodbye? to me feels needlessly cold and manipulative. there's also the fact that i think angel is much more of a person when he's not with buffy. neither of them really feel relaxed or silly or lighthearted around each other. it's always life or death and pain and terror and wanting, for the most part, with very minor levity.

and, to that point, i think the other really compelling narrative tragedy of bangel is the impact it has on buffy's relationship to her own slayerness and — conversely — to her queerness. im not gonna go into a big thing here on exactly why being the slayer is analogous to being queer because that's a whole nother essay? but blah blah "have you tried not being a vampire slayer?" / "i've tried marching in the slayer pride parade" / the "new moon rising" conflation of willow dating tara with buffy dating demons etc etc etc. like, one of the reasons i have warm feelings about early/mid-s2 bangel is that I think it's the queerest era of their relationship. it's buffy revelling in her "cradle robbing creature of the night boyfriend" and being attracted to his vampirism and "you're the one freaky thing in my freaky world that still makes sense". s2 bangel is compelling because it's freaky. because it's monstrous. it's sexual and messy and strange has undertones of queerness.

and then, of course, "surprise" / "innocence" happens. buffy is punished by the narrative and by angel for giving into her desire for this monster. buffy spends the next half a season being terrorized and watching people she loves die or almost die because of it. and then when s3 happens, you can't just go back to how it was! they're fundamentally altered by the trauma of s2! the freakiness of them is gone and instead they're playacting heterosexual normality because anything else is Unsafe. it's in the way buffy starts dressing somewhere between a housewife and jackie kennedy (which ok is also related to her feeling destabilized by faith and that whole bi panic but one thing at a time). it's in angel's nightmare about buffy bursting into flames after their big empty church wedding. it's in the mayor, this figure of patriarchy incarnate, telling them they can never have a "normal" relationship and angel believing him. when like, mister liam of galway she's a vampire slayer, normal was never even in play. it's in — critically! — angel breaking up with buffy by calling their relationship a "freakshow." that bit will never not break my heart.

so yeah when i say i don't hate bangel that's kind of what it's about? like they're not my favorite relationship but i do think they're an important story. tbh that's my relationship with most ship media like, even if something isn't your thing it does still fulfill a narrative function. and like, to me the narrative function of angel is to be the boyfriend buffy gets over. to be the first love and the adolescent wound. to be the trauma she can recover from in order to learn how to love again in a healthy and adult way.

spuffy & the comedy of queer futurity

OKAY so that brings us to spuffy im about to get SO insane hello!!! hello!! literally Hello Okay. i dont even?? dfkldsjfsdjf anon i hope u know this is an INSANE ask i think about them all day every day and the idea of summing up WHY and having it be COHERENT is just?????? like bangel i have cohesive enough thoughts about to be like yeah this is my argument for why i feel the way i do but spuffy is like????? ok i have a personal theory that u dont choose ur btvs endgame ship it chooses you. like spuffy gripped me by the throat at age 13 and said hello!! and i said oh ok!!! ok i'll think about you forever thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you!

but OKAY on the narrative thread of bangel as this ship of heteronormative tragedy, to me spuffy is this ship of queer exaltation. spuffy as a queer relationship has been much expounded on already — like we've all seen @johnaeryns's lesbian spuffy manifesto which is art and changed the timeline by the way!!!!

ANYWAY. like queer spuffy is in the secretness of their relationship, it's in "you think i haven't tried not to?" it's in "i'm all stay-inny" it's in "this? with you? i know it's wrong" it's in "it's wrong, i'm wrong, tell me that i'm wrong please," it's buffy turning what angel used to break up with her back on spike, angel saying "you deserve more than this freakshow" and buffy telling spike "last night was the end of this freakshow." it's in the way buffy feels so much shame about her relationship with spike, the way she hides it. the way a lot of that comes from the angel trauma. angel tells her she should find a "normal" guy so that's just what she goes out and does, and pursues riley, except riley can't really Understand her. like biley to me feels like the experience of being bi in a relationship with a straight person who doesn't really Understand.

and that's the thing about spike, is he understands. it's the way spike comes into the narrative as a New Kind of Vampire who does in the old stodgy vampire cults and buffy comes into the narrative as a New Kind of Slayer who has friends and a life. and they're marked as parallels by the text in this way from the Beginning. school hard red stripes my Beloved <3333.

it's the way in becoming part ii which is forever my favorite episode of tv, buffy has no one, by the narrative's own declaration. it's buffy saying "i got nothing left to lose" and spike saying "i'm all you've got" and buffy's "me" to angel's "take all that away and what's left?" it's buffy's "no, i don't" to angel's "you really think you can take us all on by yourself?" and it's the fact that buffy's whole life is falling apart and everything is ending, she's lost kendra, she's lost angel once and is about to lose him again, she's lost her place in the real world with her expulsion from school, she's lost her place in her family by being kicked out and then here's this guy. this vampire who's on her side and who likes the world enough to save it even though he shouldn't want to and there's something about buffy telling whistler "well why don't you try fighting evil for a change because i'm sick and tired of doing it myself" and here she's not doing it herself??? because spike???? is here??????????

it's the queerness of spuffy in how spike is present for her literal coming out, it's the way they fit so easily together when they have no right to, which itself is a queer narrative. it's, all in that same episode, with their easy banter about the band and the way they instinctively work together in a fight and the way the fact that he's even invited to her house indicates this bizarre undercurrent of trust and understanding. this feeling of alignment and affinity that transcends other bonds and boundaries.

it's the way they match each other, and how that matching is explicitly tied to buffy's identity as a slayer, to her as a fighter, to her connection to the demon world, to the things that give her symbolic queerness (she also has lots of non-symbolic queerness, but again, one thing at at a time, like if we had to also get into how gay buffy is for cordelia and kendra and faith we'd be here all day). it's "i'd rather be fighting you anyway" / "mutual" and it's "you think we're dancing?" "that's all we've ever done" and it's "but i can't fool myself. or spike for some reason" and it's the way the fight is a dance to buffy and spike recognizes that, it's the way spike just knows her.

fool for love is insane for this reason (and many others) it's buffy seeking out knowledge about her essence, herself as a slayer, and she turns to spike. it's spike having insight, its the way spike is obsessed with slayers, and that's another element of the queerness of spuffy imo. a vampire psychosexually obsessed with slayers. a slayer psychosexually obsessed with vampires. the way being a slayer is already being a Woman But Wrong and buffy queers it even further with her erotic fascination with the monsters she's meant to kill, and spike's always already meeting her in the middle, because he's been obsessed with slayers since he knew what they were. the way spike's coat, the symbol of his selfhood, is a slayer's coat and a woman's coat and they're both meeting in this middle ground of Wrong Weird Queer Fucky Gender and are Understanding Each Other in that middle ground.

it's the way buffy understands the hero in spike that's not supposed to exist because he's supposed to just be a monster. it's the way spike understands the monster in buffy that's not supposed to exist because she's supposed to just be a hero.

it's season 5, the insanity of spike falling in love with a hero and slowly learning to be good for her, and he doesn't know how and he shouldn't even be able to learn how but he does, the way he's willing to sacrifice his life for dawn and in "intervention" and "the gift" he's prepared to do just that. this is one of the main reasons i talk about spuffy as soulmates but he doesn't have his soul yet. that spike as a human was so full of love, that love is still is guiding principle as a vampire, that it in places acts as almost a bootleg soul. it's "i don't smell a soul anywhere on you, why do you care?" - "i made a promise to a lady." it's buffy kissing spike for the first time because of his heroism in "intervention," and her letting him back in the house in "the gift" because of that same heroism and the trust they've built, it's going back to that same line in becoming part ii. "the truth is, i like this world." like the truth is he likes this world and he's not supposed to and buffy is sworn to protect the world and it's just!!! it's a little symphony is what it is.

and it's also!! spike understanding the monstrousness of buffy! this is the bit most people focus on with them, and why they have the reputation they do, but i truly think s6 spuffy is generally just so??? beautiful??? it's spike's"clawed her way out of a coffin that's how. i've done it myself" and it's buffy's "i can be alone with you here" and it's buffy who's died and experienced this insane trauma and the person who can understand it with her and make her feel okay is someone who's died too. it's "you have to go on living, so one of us is living," and just!!! the poetry of a dead man being the one to help you learn to live again.

it's the way that genuinely i read s6 spuffy as making buffy genuinely happy in those moments when her own shame isn't guiding her. it's the ecstasy of "smashed" and the fear of "wrecked" and "if you tell Anyone about last night, i will kill you" and the fact that in "gone" when no one can see buffy having sex with spike, she's giddy about it, she's delighted, she's nibbling his ear in front of xander and having fun doing it, it's her in "older and far away" and "as you were" clearly wanting spike but not wanting it to be in or near her house, where people could see, it's "dead things" and the way she's genuinely happy with him in his crypt and laughing and it's "hells bells" him making her laugh at the wedding and it's the fact that in "normal again" we get this dual glimpse of buffy just wanting to talk to spike about what happened at the wedding / flinching away when her friends so much as see her talking to him in a friendly way / him revealing that when they were together he'd put ice on the back of her neck and giving a peak to this quiet domesticity that existed alongside the torrid affair. it's how in "entropy" all he wants is for her to tell her friends about them. i know i said this above but it's literally tara, a lesbian, asking buffy if she's ready to "come out" about spike and buffy saying no, she's "all stay-inny."

it's the way s6 spuffy is SO easily read as being closeted in a queer relationship. the way that buffy feels free and happy and hot getting to have rough, inhibition-free sex with spike but feels shame whenever it's mentioned in words — "that may be how you get off but it's not my style" "no, it's your calling" / "you were like an animal" "i'm not an animal." like, the more i rewatch the show the more i feel like the fundamental quote-unquote-toxicity of s6 spuffy isn't the relationship itself, it's the resounding shame about the relationship (how many times can i say "shame" in one essay on tumblr dot com about vampires n queerness lmao). the fact that in relationships that are either normative (biley) or trying hard to be normative (bangel), the interplay of sex and violence for slayers is allowed and buffy can revel in it but in relationships that are queer either textually (fuffy) or subtextually (spuffy), suddenly buffy has to be ashamed of that, because what does that say about her?

and it all goes back to becoming ii! it's "mom, i'm a vampire slayer" and "well have you tried not being a vampire slayer?" and she literally HAS, she's tried everything she CAN and will continue to! throughout the series! it's the way that dual trauma—being kicked out of the house for being gay a slayer and having to kill angel after losing him because of her forbidden desire for this monster??? tell her that she's Wrong, that she has to be Normal, that she has to Deny what she wants and the way she is and wants is Wrong.

it's the way that spike is buffy's shadow, the way that in season 6 she goes to him because she wants to feel good, she wants to feel, period, and her expressing affection and desire for this monster who mirrors her is also her expressing affection and desire for the things she feels shame for about herself. it's the way buffy doing violence against spike is textually her doing violence against herself (see: faith beating up her own body in "who are you?" → buffy beating up spike in "dead things).

i also dont want to give the narrative too much credit here because one of the reasons buffy is so compelling as a show is the places where it fails and comes short. it's such a rich text to talk about queerness and shame and desire and womanhood precisely because the show itself is full of hangups about those very things. obviously this is a segue into "seeing red" which i'm Not going to go into in depth here, i dont really feel like talking about it because frankly i dont need to go on a long tangent about sexual violence right now :) but suffice it to say the fact that the writers room was like "okay we need the audience to Hate Spike because they Like Him Too Much" and their immediate thought was "right let's write in a horrific scene of sexual violence that will traumatize our actors and our audience and also shows that we too believe what buffy believes, that she is wrong for wanting this monster, that she should be punished for having outsized desires and not being more careful and now her and the audience will Learn Their Lesson." anyway moving on.

but anyway that brings us to the way spuffy is a comedy, structurally speaking. like i think people often read spuffy as this exclusively dark and twisted story because they a) only associate spuffy with season 6 and b) misread season 6 as being only about dark fucked up sex rather than like, that Desire Can Be Good Actually, Even and Especially When It's Not the Desire You're ~Supposed~ To Have.

but then we get season 7 spuffy???????? season 7 spuffy where they are slowly rebuilding their trust, where spike, who represents the parts of buffy she feels shame about, has sought out his soul, and it gets to be this tangible proof that the things she thought were awful about herself all along were actually always good, always had an innate capacity for goodness!!! and sought out a soul to prove it! the way buffy is so obsessed with spike getting his soul and tells everyone all of the time (see this chef's kiss set from @slayerbuffy ) in part because it's like!! see!!! i'm NOT wrong inside, the vampire im obsessed with had the inherent capacity for goodness all along!!!!! the way spike's ensoulment makes me INSANE because it's AGAIN in the thread of becoming part ii — spike is a vampire and shouldn't be ABLE to want to save the world he shouldn't be ABLE to want a soul or think of it as desirable but he DOES.

it's the way that buffy's relationship trauma has, since angel, been about saying feelings out loud, acknowledging feelings and desires in public, but in season 7 she is fully accepting of her desires verbally. "i'm the one who dates dead guys. and no offense, but they were hotties" and "kind of sallow but in a hot way?" and her and spike getting clocked with their sexual tension by the potentials and andrew and the other scoobies. it's!!! fucking!!!!!!! everywhere!!! it's that buffy hasn't said i love you to any love interests since angel (unless you count the time on ats she told angel she loves riley but i could write a whole separate essay on how THAT is just insane in so many narrative ways) and then?????? in her second to last scene in the series??? she tells spike she loves him???????????? it's spike's speech in "touched" bringing it all home:

I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE. I LOVE WHAT YOU ARE. WHAT YOU DO. HOW YOU TRY. (excuse me while i WEEP).

it's the way she spends what she thinks are her last three nights on earth with him, cuddling in bed. it's the way her last lines of the series are all his name, and telling him she loves him, and their love which once wasn't even allowed to be mentioned out loud, to be even thought of with anything but revulsion, now burns so bright it makes them burst into flames

it's the way spike is so beautiful in the story as buffy's shadow because it means something that spike loves with his whole heart, that he loves every bit of buffy, that he has understood buffy from the beginning, even when they were enemies (see everything i went insane about above about s2) even when they were unlikely allies (see everything i went insane about above about fool for love). and understands her as a friend !!! (see early s6!!!! spike as buffy's confidante!!!). the way he understands her as a lover!!!!!!! (see the speech in touched!!!!). the way buffy hates herself but spike will always love her and he loves her for the fullness of herself and through loving him and through him loving her she can learn to love herself and accept herself fully, no one kicking her out of the house because she's queer a slayer, no one telling her she should want a normal relationship, just this strange gendery queer vampire who loves her forever for the fullness of her, her kindness and her strength, what she is, what she does, how she tries. the best and the worst of her. the way spuffy is about the ultimate affirmation of the self and specifically the queer self. the way spuffy is about finding each other. the way spuffy is about queer futurity, is about "you have to go on living," is about if you keep going and keep trying you can live your full unabashed queer life and spuffy finds that together, this freaky slayer and this freaky vampire, meeting in the middle, and making something new.

it's the way spuffy is this narrative impossibility that wasn't supposed to happen, the way spike was supposed to be this half-season arc villain. the way so much of spike in-universe shouldn't be able to happen, but it does. the way buffy breaks the laws of slayerhood, dying and coming back, loving vampires, changing the entire slayer line. the way queerness is very much on a level about this thing that isn't "supposed" to exist, but it does. and it's beautiful.

and that's what spuffy is to me.

#btvs meta #ask #anti bangel #spuffy #HELLO this has been in my drafts for DAYS because it took so long to write out all these thoughts

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msookyspooky · 2 years ago

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I now need severen with a hunter s.o imagine bc HOLY FUCK.

Severen be like "yeah, they're a hunter, but they'e hot!"

Hunter s.o; He has committed atrocities but I've decided that they are apart of him and I think they're funny."

Bro, the sexual tension would be out the roof!! Basically take Spuffy and make it 80s, Western Gothic and gritty as hell. Loves it. 🖤😏👀

Severen with a Vampire Hunter S/O

- Who knows why you hunt vampires but you would definitely have to be morally gray to overlook Severen's.....Everything. Probably break the law as well bc the police are not any help and you're not getting anywhere following the law while hunting down vampires.

- Everything about Severen is chaotic. He never shy's away from danger and probably gets bored really fast after living for like 130 years. So the minute you surprised him by holding the blade of an axe to the nape of his neck, letting him know full well you knew what he was, and that you were there to cut his head off...Fear wasn't really the emotion he was feeling at that moment.

- You both inconvenienced each other for a short while. He was entirely too powerful to kill outright. However, you were aware of his weaknesses and used them to your full advantage; His own cockiness and the Sun. You used a lot of rigged up traps and always tried to lure him out close to sunrise to have him retreating and cursing up a storm the minute the sun started coming up. Multiple times he had you cornered and the sun saved your ass, much to his dismay. He always promised he'd get you the next night, you promised the same thing to him.

- Seeing you with a glare directed at him and a weapon in hand had him excited and eager every single night. He thought you were hot as hell and didn't hide that fact. He practically rushed out of the camper just to go see what you had in store for him that night while his family shook their heads.

- He loved your cat and mouse game and didn't hesitate to make sexual innuendos towards you hunting him down.

- "After me again, killer? I'm startin' to think ya got a crush on me. Ya sure my heads the only thing you want?" He'd comment with a flirty smirk while mocking you. You would always get flustered and deny it.

- Definitely developed a crush on you. Fast. He had heart eyes for you from almost day one. It wasn't often he was the one being hunted. He found it kind of flattering, especially with you making him your main target.

- (This man has a primal kink and both of you hunting each other down and fighting each other has him hard as a brick istg-)

- He held back on you, secretly not wanting your game to end and he didn't want to turn you either. He found you the most interesting little human he'd met in a long time. You were smart too! Trying to outmaunever him and be one step ahead. It became a fun challenge to beat whatever trap you had and get to you as the winning prize. He is the master at cheating and definitely would see your obvious trap with a grin and set up his own to lure you out of hiding.

- You both kept score at this point of who beat who on what night.

- Eventually the cats out of the bag when they have to leave that area. He shows up in a solemn mood and doesn't even try to fight you or to outmaunever you baiting him; Which confused you and brought you out of hiding. It comes out that he was holding back on you this whole time because he likes you...You had to come clean that you knew where they were resting during the day and didn't do anything for the same reasons.

- It was obvious you both liked each other despite technically being 'enemies'. You found him hilarious, he found you fascinating (And hot). You both realize you can help each other. He can help you know where others like him are and you can help him weed out the competition (More vampires = Less food = More risk of being caught = Their own demise.)

- You still hunt vampires but you make an exception with him and his family (As long as they don't hunt yours. That was definitely a truce that had to be reached.)

- You didn't travel with them bc you still couldn't watch them kill humans despite really liking Severen and overlooking his crimes against humanity. But you all definitely kept in touch and ran into each other whenever you got a tip from Severen of where a vampire being a pain in their ass was staying at.

- He ain't letting you go alone. Watching you massacre a vampire, blood caked on you and a predatory look in your eyes had him turned on beyond belief and both of you celebrating on any surface nearby. 👀💦

- Teaches you a thing or two on killing.

- He always got in a shitty mood whenever you had to leave or he had to leave. Only seeing each other here and there. He will 100% be trying to convince you to let him turn you and be Blade or Selene instead of Buffy or Van Helsing.

#the angst of you staying a human and aging tho holy god 😭#imma leave it up to readers whever you turn or not #severen imagine #severen near dark #severen #near dark

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annyankers · 2 years ago

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TOP SECRET first chapter of the dangerous/savvy spuffy fic bc i need thoughts on how to progress.

basically need to get us from here to fool for love. have been considering a pit stop in out of my mind bc the fight would be interesting in this universe and you know the Revelation. would involve more with joyce's stuff and maybe a visiting neurosurgeon who gets kidnapped instead the Riley Stuff bc the kindest thing i can do for riley atm is just not draw him.

feel free to gimme thoughts in replies/answers/dms idk whatever works for you!

(chapter under the cut. barest editing has been done)

If there was something Buffy had learned over the years of her being the Slayer it was that the minds of vampires were alien compared to humans, but unlike other demons they weren’t totally incomprehensible. She’d spent enough time around them — hell she’d even dated one— to see that there was a logic and it was one you could follow and understand to what they did. And that understanding was part of the silent agreement she’d had with Spike since last year.

Chip or no Spike was dangerous and once they’d learned more about the Initiative and learned he could hurt demons she should have killed him. That was the responsible slayer thing to do. But she didn’t because she knew Spike well enough to know what his interests and goals were. He wanted the chip out before he left Sunnydale because out in the world there absolutely humans who could take out a vampire, like hunters and necromancers. He couldn’t rely on minions and his reputation for his own personal protection forever, eventually one would turn on him or fail. He stuck with Buffy’s side because he knew that of the two of them she was the one more likely to get access to the kinda people who could do brain surgery. Also he knew that if he left to go and explore his options elsewhere she’d have Willow track him down and Buffy would stake her himself before he was halfway to LA.

Spike was her responsibility and it was her job to balance keeping him on a tight leash and letting him loose to blow off some steam.

Her break up with Riley last year had been well timed (and embarrassingly prompted by Spike knocking sense into her. She hadn’t even wanted to date Riley in the first place! Why had she gone with it!?) things hadn’t gotten so serious that it was painful or messy and they were still in contact in that “we’re in the same business” kinda way. Likely in Spike’s mind with a bit of time and buttering up they could get the chip out which hey, probably had a point there. She idly considered it again, if that was a route she should take, but opted once again to leave it in limbo for now. Right now the pressing issue in her mind was that Dracula was in town and wanted to get chummy. She’d already had a Scooby meeting with the gang over what they knew about him but now it was time for her to hit up her other well of knowledge.

The Scoobies weren’t exactly privy to the depth of her and Spike’s agreement, how much she actually talked to him and how much weight she put on his opinion. Spike didn’t get to where he was as a Big Name Vampire by being stupid or bad at vampiring. She liked to pick his brain on all kinds of things, there was only so much of it she actually put stock into of course. He might be technically her ally but they both knew he was the de facto Big Bad of Sunnydale since there wasn’t anyone else around currently who could actually wrangle anyone around here. Kinda made her miss the mayor sometimes, at least he put civic works on his list of evil schemes.

As it stood she was pretty sure the only person who got that she and Spike were the two biggest fish in town and that they acted like it was Giles, who took whatever info she relayed without always naming her source with a kind of knowing silence.

She barged into his Crypt, Spike looked up from where he’d been watching TV.

He raised a brow at her. “Yeah Slayer? Need something? Kinda busy here.”

She didn’t waste her breath. “So it looks like Drac’s in town and he’s looking to get a bite of Buffy Pie. You know anything about him?”

Suddenly Spike was interested. “He owes me 11 pounds for starters.”

Buffy’s eyebrows shot up. “Dracula owes you money?”

“Yeah.” Spike lit a cigarette. “Fucker.”

“So you know Dracula?”

“Yuuup. We're old rivals. But then he got famous, forgot all about his foes. I'll tell you what. That glory hound's done more harm to vampires than any Slayer. His story gets out, and suddenly everybody knows how to kill us.”

“Okay so what can you tell me about him? He’s got like, wizard powers I know that, he kept poofing when I tried to stake him.”

Spike waved a hand dismissively. “Low level parlor tricks he learned from the Rromani. The real threat’s his thrall. Bloody powerful.”

“Noted. Any ideas on where to find him so I can make him poof permanently?”

Spike raised a brow at her.

“He’s here for you pet, isn’t that what you said? You don’t have to worry about looking for him. He’ll come to you. And he’ll keep coming until he gets what he wants which I’m guessing is you as part of his ridiculous harem.”

Buffy groaned. “ Gross. Well do you have any anti-thrall tips?”

Spike got up, turning off the tv and going over to where he’d thrown his coat.

“None I’d be willing to share with you but I’ve got a better idea anyway. We head back to yours, you go about the end of your night as normal and when Drac comes to ply his cheap seduction I’m going to give him a piece of my mind.”

“Oh you are now?”

“Damn right. First off— I want my money. Second— it’s an insult to my reputation that he thinks that he can come into my territory and go after my prey. Like I can fucking let this shit stand—”

He walked right past her to the door and she followed, half amused. She probably should be offended by him calling her “his prey” but she got what he was saying. This was his town as much as it was hers, he was the head black hat around here and if anyone should be getting the slayer murdering trophy here it was him not some tourist who cropped up on the hellmouth just to get an “I killed the slayer and made her my vampiric consort” t-shirt. Buffy was with him there— well not that Spike had murdering her rights, but that there was no way she was gonna let some out of town vamp make a mess out of her perfectly nice hellmouth for his own fun.

Which is how she found herself in the deeply weird position of now trying to fall asleep while Spike sat in her chair.

“Is this really necessary?”

“Oh yeah. You’re his target. He’ll be through that window by the end of the night mark my words and when he does I’ll be there to rip his poncy head off for disrespecting me again.”

Buffy rolled her eyes and flopped back into her bed trying to get comfortable and ignore Spike’s presence in her room and get some sleep. Or at least be less suspicious bait.

The thing was that last time she’d been this serious about dealing with a vamp it’d been Spike last year. He’d chased her around Sunnydale like the freaking terminator with his stupid anti-vampire damage decoder ring. A ring which she was keeping safe in this very room. For a brief moment when they’d all been looking at it on Giles’ coffee table she thought about giving it to Angel but then she remembered Angelus and the thought died. She wasn’t thrilled with Angel and how that relationship had ended but if he ever lost his soul again while he had a ring that made him indestructible it would be a nightmare. She’d give it back to Spike before she let that happen. She didn’t know how the whole chip situation would react to the ring and honestly she didn’t want to find out. She hoped Spike wasn’t much for snooping.

Somehow eventually, maybe from the sheer power of boredom, Buffy fell into a half doze only to startle awake what felt like a minute later.

There were now two weirdly dressed vampires in her room. Spike and Dracula who he was blocking from getting to her.

“Hey Drac. Funny seeing you here after all these years. Come to pay me back those 11 pounds?”

“Spike. Why are you of all vampires in a Slayer’s bedroom? I didn’t think you had sunken to killing your prey in their sleep.”

Oh shit he did know Dracula. Wow.

“Oh come off it. I’d never.” She could hear the smirk in his voice. “It’s just that this one’s mine and I couldn’t help but notice you coming into my town to try and steal my fun. I’m the Slayer of Slayers mate. You’re a kid’s birthday magician.”

“Mind your tongue!” Dracula scowled looking from Spike to Buffy and back. “If she is your prey then why is it that you can enter her home and she is not yet dead?”

Spike’s smirk turned to a grin. “Cause half the reason I like goin’ after Slayers is I like the fight and this one’s got lots of it. No fun killin’ her just yet when there’s plenty of good fight to be had, though I’ll admit after getting a taste I reconsidered on that one.”

Dracula’s eyes bored into Buffy until Spike moved between them again, likely to protect her from his thrall.

“Course. Nearly took out her jugular last year. Fuckin’ ambrosia. Been a tic since the last Slayer I ate but she’s even sweeter than I remembered.”

There was a hungry look now in Dracula’s face. “You have tasted her?”

“I have. And I will again. Only vampire who will. Slayer’s out of your league. Their blood’s top shelf and not for overdramatic twits like you— it’s something you ought to earn, the taste is.” Spike put a hand on Dracula’s chest. “ Well that’s for me to know and for you to never find out mate.”

Dracula’s eyes burned as they snapped to Spike. “You dare to touch me?”

“Fuck yes I dare.” She could hear the crunch of Spike’s bones. “And I’ll do more than that two you overrated sideshow. Fuck off back to Transylvania this Slayer is mine.”

“You are not worthy of being her equal. To teach her of her own darkness.”

That seemed to set something off in Spike and his hand on Dracula’s chest became a fist, twisting into his blouse. His other one was balling into a fist as well, getting ready to sock him.

“I’ll say it again one more time. The only one who makes her neck their chalice is me. Fork over the cash and fuck off back to your Eastern European shithole of a castle.”

Dracula looked scowling from Spike to Buffy who was now wielding a stake from under her pillow. She wiggled it as she quirked a brow.

“This is not over.” He spat.

“Yeah I think it is.” Spike drawled.

Then poof! Dracula was all misty and floating out her window.

“That’s all the big name Dracula time I get? That was anti-climatic.” Buffy griped.

“Yeah and if it had been climatic your furniture would’ve been the first casualty.” Spike said as he plopped down onto her bed.

“Never mind. Anti-climatic good.”

Spike snorted. His face was still demonic, yellow eyes glinting at her from the shadows of a bone white head. It didn’t send chills down her spine like it did even just a year ago but it didn’t put at her ease either. She’d listened to everything Spike said and knew that while, yeah sure, it was posturing he meant what he said. One day their truce would be done and one of them would end up dead. Spike had a vested interest in keeping other vamps off her in situations like this because he wanted first, middle and last crack at her. Buffy dropped her stake back onto the bed.

“Didn’t even give me my money before he scarpered.”

“And that really is the worst part of his visit to turn me into his vampire harem ho.”

Spike nodded. “Thank you for recognizing that.”

Buffy rolled her eyes. “Okay I’m gonna try and get some actual sleep now.”

“Right I’m going to stay here a bit, make sure he doesn’t think he can circle back after I’m gone and get in a quick thrall.”

“In the room or the house in general?”

“I’d just say the house but with our luck I leave to watch a bit of telly and he’ll be in here the second I close the door.”

“Yeah true. Sounds about right for my luck.”

“You look for his posh mansion or whatever he’s got in the morning and I’ll get some minions tomorrow night to do a bit of tracking on our end.”

Spike got up and purused her bookshelf before pulling one off, she couldn’t really see what he’d picked in the gloom. He sat down again and cracked open the book, settling in to read. Spike didn’t really keep minions in the traditional sense, but he did consider any vampire living in Sunnydale to have tacitly agreed to being his minion by the sheer fact they lived here and he wasn’t afraid to bully them into doing his shit work.

“Right.” Buffy flopped back down into her bed. “Night for real this time I guess.”

“Yeah, sweet dreams Slayer.”

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Honestly the whole Dracula thing ended up being kind of a let down. The most interesting part really had been Spike’s stand off with him. It had real soap opera vibes compared to the low budget d-movie vibes raiding his mansion had had. Guess that’s how it always is when you meet a celebrity. They just never held up to the hype.

The thing that was really worrying her was her “hunting” as Dracula called it. Which was— yeah. That’s what it was.

It seemed like every year she got a little more Slayery but something about whatever they did with that spell during the last apocalypse had kicked it into overdrive. She felt wild sometimes, primal. Like all her hungers were just More now. Sometimes she almost felt out of control while also completely in control. Like she was the calm and the storm. It made no sense at all. She’d talked to Giles about starting up her training again. If that spell, the dreams after and her new found urges taught her anything it was that she didn’t know enough about what she even was. What really was the Slayer? How was she made? Who did it? What was she at the end of the day? Human? Half something else? Human plus a spell? What did that mean for her? Did it even matter?

Frankly it was a whole can of worms she’d been actively trying to avoid since she’d found out about Kendra being called. How was she still the slayer if the slayer juice or whatever had moved on? How’d it work? What were they? She didn’t have any answers. Just the feeling like she was two things in one body pulling in different directions but also the same thing all bound up in itself just like it should be.

Buffy prowled the cemetery looking for prey to take out her endless mental circling on. She came across some vampires and tore into them with ease. Enjoying the burn of working muscle as she decimated them with hard-won skill and natural power. It was over fairly quick but satisfying enough she might actually get some rest now. Then she noticed Spike, leaning against a mausoleum and watching her with that burning stare. She’d sensed him but hadn’t actively noted him, her subconscious or whatever not seeing him as a threat she guessed. A dangerous habit to form.

She walked over and he met her in the middle.

“Times like this I wanna crack my bloody skull open and rip the chip out myself.” Spike’s voice was low and rough, his eye’s burning hungrily. “The things I’d do to you Slayer.”

Everything about that sent a tingle through Buffy that she was pretty sure was left over from her weird slayer hunting urge that was only just dying down.

“Yes, I know Spike. You’ve got lots of wicked bad evil plans to do terrible horrible things to me if you ever get your capacity for human murder back.”

He brushed some of her hair back behind her ear. A power move she steadfastly ignored.

“What’s got you out here in the dead of night Slayer? Isn’t it well past your beddy bye for a night like tonight?”

Buffy shifted and looked to the side. “Couldn’t sleep.”

He grinned slowly. “Not enough blood in your teeth?”

She glared at him. But he ignored it.

“Happens to me sometimes. Don’t get in enough violence in my day and it feels like my skin’s gonna come bursting off. Gotta get in a couple of kills before I can finally tuck in. Rip out some throats and all that. Practically demon nature.” He looked her over with interest. “Suppose it makes sense it’s Slayer nature too. You’re built to hunt us.”

That mollified Buffy a little but she still didn’t really like it. But it brought her back to all the things she’d been thinking and feeling since the spell. He had a point. The only other beings who were close enough to slayers to compare where probably vampires—and humans sure, but humans weren’t all aggro and bloodlusty like she got. She had needs and impulses and instincts no normal humans would ever have, not even getting into the physical stuff like strength. Buffy moved automatically over to the mausoleum that Spike had been leaning on to do so herself and he followed.

“I never used to have an urge for— for hunting— that was this powerful before that spell we did to defeat Adam. Now it’s like— I don’t know like I’m more me.”

“Why I hear it you all tapped into something primal, powerful.”

“The First Slayer.”

Spike’s brows raised. “Oh yeah? And what was she like?”

“Primal. Powerful.” Her lips twitched up in a momentary smile. “She was intense and angry and alone. Practically a force of nature.”

“Well there you go. When you did that spell you brought back out with you a little bit more of what’s at that gooey Slayer core and whatever it is, it’s kin to us demons if your feeling the same kinds of urge that I do.” One again his eyes were full of liquid fire. “Cause it’s not just the urge to kill is it? Or at least it’s an urge that you could get off a couple of ways— fighting, fucking, feeding. The three things vampires love best. I bet when you get that itch that keeps you up at night you go for one of those and it’s the first two that do the job best. Shame you dumped soldier boy last year isn’t it? Then again he probably wouldn’t have been able to keep up.”

It was frankly horrifying how spot on he could get.

She glared at him. “You’re a pig Spike.”

He just grinned and bit his tongue just a little.

“We’re nothing alike okay? Demon, Slayer. Bad, Good. Opposites.”

Spike leaned in, looming over her. His breath cool and tabacco-y against her face.

“You think you know ... what you are ... what's to come? You haven't even begun.” He smiled again and some how it was the same smile as always but completely different. It was like the Spike from junior year was back. “You’re as much a part of the dark as me Slayer. You might bat for the other team but you’re built like me. Believe me, I know.”

A chill ran through her along with electricity. She wanted to slap him and run. She wanted to shake him and make him explain his bullshit. Tell her everything he knew about it if he wanted to act like he knew things.

“You might hunt Slayers for sport or whatever Spike but you don’t know anything about us.”

He leaned back a bit so he could meet her with glittering eyes. “Oh I know more than I think you do dear. Never were much of an academic in your slayer studies were you? Remember, you’re not the first Slayer I’ve hunted.”

She didn’t have much of a comeback to that. She wasn’t much on learning the lore-y end of things and she really didn’t know the extent of what he’d done on the whole Slayer hunting thing. It was entirely possible he did know more about it than she did right now.

“Well Spike this has been fun but I’m heading home now. Have fun with the dregs— if I even left any.”

She flipped her hair as she turned and left. Not the most elegant retreat she’d made but she was pretty sure she thawked him with that so she’d take it. Her existential Crisis could wait until she was training with Giles, for now all she wanted to do was finally enjoy a nice night of sleep with no fears of vampiric creeps sneaking in again.

#my writing #dangerous!spike and savvy!buffy

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girl4music · 1 year ago

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I am so glad that I am not the only one that sees this about ‘Something Blue’. This is exactly what I said about Spike and Buffy in it. They’re the way they are under that spell because it’s the way they actually are. Therefore it doesn’t bother me that they’re so close.

I always find it funny that as soon as they’re not under the pretext of being mortal enemies they’re the best, most domestic and healthiest love couple there is.

As soon as they’re put into a narrative where they can only be Spike and Buffy, Spike and Buffy is what we get. And yes, Buffy would absolutely dote on Spike like that at that point in her life. And yes, Spike would absolutely be the greatest son-in-law at that point in his “undead” life. It makes sense because the only thing the spell actually does is makes them forget that they’re mortal enemies. They’re made to be a married couple by the spell and that automatically throws the former out of the narrative. It doesn’t mean that they have to be that damn happy and loveydovey about it.

They’re doing all of that on their own because they can now they’re not weighed down by their natures.

That’s the thing about Spuffy.

If you take away the understanding and the pressure that they’re actually not supposed to be together… Then they’re actually the best at being together.

Which is the complete opposite of Bangel who can’t ever be together and never really try to be. The rare times they do get the opportunity one or both of them is u-hauling the fuck out of the relationship almost as if they instinctively know that they’re not meant to be.

Here - in ‘Something Blue’ - it’s the opposite. It’s that they instinctively know that they are meant to be even though their natures as the Slayer and the Soulless Vampire should make them stay away from each other, not turn them into Mr and Mrs Couple Of The Year. There is no part of the spell that should compel them to do that. Willow says “Why don’t just go marry him?” And she says it BECAUSE they’re already that attached to each other before any spell is enacted.

It’s basically telling us that their issue with being mortal enemies is actually a non-issue. In fact - it’s precisely WHY they’re so drawn to each other like a moth to a flame rather than the reason why they shouldn’t be. The only reason why them being mortal enemies matters is because they’re the dummies making it matter. So if you put them into a situation where they forget all about that without forgetting who they actually are, how they actually feel and how they actually function and navigate as just people.

Then all you have is literally SPIKE AND BUFFY.

The spell doesn’t violate them. It actually frees them.

Juxtapose this with Willow’s spell on Tara in ‘All The Way’. The reason why it’s a violation of Tara’s mind and body is because that’s not how Tara would feel about Willow if she could remember the fights they had. What we get following ‘All The Way’ is a loveydovey couple, however something is very off about the way Tara is acting or behaving. It’s almost too loveydovey. As if she’s under a love spell and not just a forget spell. Her mental and bodily autonomy is taken away and therefore her informed consent is not valid to give.

There’s no restrictions or limitations placed on Spike and Buffy in ‘Something Blue’ other than that they’re literally a married couple now. So how does being a married couple now inform their behaviour even though there is no context to how they should behave? It turns them into the healthiest couple in the entire show who cannot stop loving each other now that EVERYTHING ELSE about them takes a backseat in the vehicle driving their lives forward. All that is still there. It’s just no longer the focus of the narrative. The episode tries to make you think of Spike and Buffy as being out of character. That they’re not being themselves in behaving like they’re a married couple now. The other characters surrounding them are literally telling you “this isn’t how it should be”.

But the whole premise of what’s going on is going on because Willow felt left out and uncared about by Buffy. She wasn’t paying attention to her and her needs because she was constantly sparring (flirting) with Spike like they were two children on the playground that were destined to be sweethearts as soon as they grew up and grew out of their “teething” stages. As soon as they forget all about their baser instincts and all the pressures of having to be adults.

As soon as they can just be themselves, nothing more, nothing less. Themselves is what they only ever are.

And that’s why ‘Something Blue” is the happiest written accident in the entire Buffyverse. It’s almost like fate itself stepped in and was like “Yeah, this, what you want… it’s not how it’s going to go down. By trying so hard to prove a point, my guy, you’re essentially just proving why your point is pointless.”

The one thing you should never doubt when it comes to writing art/entertainment that provide “lessons”. The writing finds its own way. You cannot contrive it. Because the moment you try to, you’re subverting your own expectations of what you want out of it.

Spike and Buffy were so happy when they were engaged. I'm sure we're supposed to think it was all part of the spell, but Willow never said they needed to be happy about it. Everyone else who was effected by her spells were free to feel however they wanted to about them, and they were all miserable. But Spike and Buffy were like "Yay! We're getting married!" and then had a blast kissing and planning and snuggling

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