#what if 1872

[floilee]

She may be your biggest nightmare

And still have a bastard smile that would make you die for her

[karmaspidr]

What If... Peter Parker was in 1872?

Kate: Those are some interesting pieces you've got there. And the ammunition is certainly... unique.

Peter: Thank you. I hand crafted them myself. I shoot to catch and save, but never kill. My uncle always taught me the value of a life.

Shang: Sounds like a wise man.

Peter: ...he was.

Kate: What's your name, Stranger?

Peter: Web-Slinger.

Kate: A name as unique as your webs. It suits you.

Shang: Why don't you come with us? Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Peter: Thanks, but I have learned a long time ago that my road is best walked alone.

[l0cal-tv]

A poster design for hawkeye in the what if 1872 episode!

[thingsasbarcodes]

What If...? 3x06 - What If... 1872?

[agent-42]

What if 1872 is a good episode. I kinda like that they said "screw it everyone is a cowboy we are not explaining it like the 1602 one.

I hope this one spins off like the marvel zombie one there are so many possible stories in this world to be told.

[negativesd09]

You'll be the saddest part of me A part of me that will never be mine It's obvious Tonight is gonna be the loneliest You're still the oxygen I breathe I see your face when I close my eyes It's torturous Tonight is gonna be the loneliest

THE LONELIEST - Måneskin Stony 1872 kiss 48/50 - Hello, I bring you some stony kisses <3 (Also, if you like my art, I would be very grateful if you could help me sharing my commission sheets, I have little to non reach at the moment and I'm struggling a bit, thank you <3)

[lazycranberrydoodles]

“Dearest, your little heart is wounded; think me not cruel because I obey the irresistible law of my strength and weakness; if your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours. In the rapture of my enormous humiliation I live in your warm life, and you shall die—die, sweetly die—into mine. I cannot help it; as I draw near to you, you, in your turn, will draw near to others, and learn the rapture of that cruelty, which yet is love; so, for a while, seek to know no more of me and mine, but trust me with all your loving spirit.”

doodle of laura from carmilla (1872) because it is october!!!

[bumps-in-the-night]

It was so cool of Carmilla and Laura to invent lesbianism

[classicanalyzer]

What If Season 3 - What If... 1872? Thoughts

"Alternate realities, parallel universes. You get it at this point. Small choices, big changes, etcetera. But, out in the farthest reaches, of the Multiverse, well, things can get a little weird. Here, anything is possible. Really. Anything. Think less 'What If?' and more 'What the hell?' In this universe, Ultron was actually programmed for show tunes. But even in the Multiverse's most far-out worlds, one thing sadly remains a constant. Injustice. Shang-Chi's universe was no exception." Uatu

What's there to say, yet again, this is another peak episode, surprisingly tho, this one has a lot of themes around the reality of the Wild West period. I personally connect a lot to this episode with the themes presented. In some ways, this episode feels like a Shang-Chi sequel. It's a great episode before we reach the two-part finale.

Seeing Shang-Chi (in a major role this time as I'm not counting Episode 1) and Kate (again in a major role) after so long feels amazing, and I love to hear Kate being called Hawkeye. This John Walker variant is getting off lightly, to say the least, given his racist, callous, and asshole behavior toward Chinese immigrants.

Shang-Chi's drive for justice and family connection really hits home even in another universe. He's always someone who wants to fix wrongs and help people, even if they don't seem to deserve or even want it. He was willing to die believing his sister wouldn't kill him which is an admirable testament to his love for his family, especially since he sees his sister as his hero. Similarly, Kate Bishop also experiences tragedy relating to her parents with her dad dying and her mom becoming involved with criminal forces, in a way, it's a great pairing of two heroes with similar backgrounds.

"My sister has always been my hero. She's always been stronger than me. Braver than me. She's my life. And I know she's still in there somewhere." Xu Shang-Chi

"You're a fool." Xu Xialing

"No, Lin Lin. I'm your brother. I love you, Xialing." Xu Shang-Chi

An Ultron programmed to sing tunes is so hilarious. "What the hell" is a very accurate description of some universes with incredibly wacky and ridiculous concepts. The Multiverse is a weird place and literally anything can happen with no rhyme or reason.

Sadly as Uatu points out, the 1800s were not kind towards immigrants in the US, and on the West Coast, Asian (Chinese immigrants in particular) immigrants were heavily discriminated against and exploited. The American Dream has sadly never existed, especially for anyone who isn't White. For all the stories and myths the Wild West holds in the imagination of the US, there's a lot of dark history behind all of the wonder. And of course, there's Capitalist exploitation of immigrants. This episode contained heavy themes about the reality of the Wild West period. One can understand why Xialing wanted to burn it all down and create a nation that truly promises a better life for immigrants, even if it doesn't justify her horrific plan and methods to do so, and her plan and methods would only create a new kind of injustice towards immigrants.

Even in another in the past universe, Stark still was able to build advanced technology far ahead of his time haha.

It's pretty dark to realize that similar to Riri's Emergence universe, this universe might've ended up with the Hood and Burch winning if it hadn't been for Uatu once again being tired of seeing injustice win and giving a little helping hand. You have to love Uatu's growth over the seasons as someone who is willing to only intervene when a Multiversal threat arises but has now grown as someone who can't stand for yet another tragic outcome after seeing it so many times.

Leave it for Sonny Burch to play a corrupt Capitalist businessman, that's a great use of the character. Yet another series where Walton Goggins plays a character in a Wild West story haha. His and Xialing's plan to hypnotized the Chinese immigrants is truly horrifying and the way we see it from Kate's perspective is full of nightmare fuel. Also goated Kate for not killing him because it would've been a mercy to let him die, but rather there are other ways for someone who killed her parents to suffer.

The fight choreography of this episode, especially the fight between Shang-Chi and The Hood, who would later be revealed as Xialing is simply amazing. Shang-Chi’s theme is great to hear in the Wild West style. The tragedy of seeing Xialing being driven to similar horrific methods as the first Hood shows how easy it is for one to lose their intentions of trying to help people. At least, she died as herself. I also really like how Shang-Chi didn't blame Kate for killing his sister, realizing it wasn't her fault and it was the Hood's fault. The Hood may not be a person, but the way it is shown with Xialing makes it a representation of injustice. The Hood brings about a new kind of injustice in its new wearer.

I really love that Kwai Jun-Fan is this universe's Iron Fist! This hits even more considering that the creators wanted to do an episode about Shang-Chi and Iron Fist that would've been on a Kung Fu episode. And of course, we got the classic riding off into the sunset.

A happy ending in what could've been a pretty dark universe... unfortunately, the three Watchers disagree with Uatu once again intervening. We are now approaching the endgame of this show. The ending has me pretty hyped for the two-episode finale. It is time to see how Uatu will be tried by the three Waters. I hope similar to the Bad Batch S3 finale, it'll be 44+ minutes long since they both had one episode less than the previous seasons but a longer finale as a result.

This was a really great episode with a lot of themes around the hard truths of the Wild West period. The What If team once again hit it home. I really felt the plotline between Shang-Chi and Xialing felt like something in a sequel and the dynamic between him and Kate was great.

"The Old West has always been a myth of endless adventure and new beginnings. But the truth was, at times, something darker. Still, one person's tragic fall is often just the origin story of a new hero's rise... And so long as there are heroes who ride for justice, hope will always be on the horizon. Wow. Another one that ended up better than it could have." Uatu

"Because of you. You swore an oath, but so did we. And we can no longer allow your interferences to go unanswered." The Eminence

[qutibahalfarouqitheclonetrooper]

What if: Carmilla storyline but instead With Ahsoka Tano & Barriss Offee?

Happy Halloween!

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[kitabasis]

[aqueenvictorious]

Designing a vampire character for an RP and just realized if I make her Etruscan I can do a running gag about Those Romans

[its-neopolitan]

Am I the only one who thought for about 4 seconds that we were about to get a ghost rider train?

[warrior-of-storms]

Also no hate to yesterday's What If episode but...

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? ARE YOU PLAYING A PRACTICAL JOKE ON ME?? We really got a Marvel 1872 episode and NONE of it was even SLIGHTLY related to Marvel 1872?? screeching and tearing my hair out I was so fricken hyped for that episode, I love Marvel 1872, and they pull that? why do I bother getting my hopes up anymore, I should really know better all things considered.

[meidui]

steve/tony multiverse bracket poll round 2 results!!!!

vote count:

1872 vs mcu: 36-63

avengers assemble vs 616: 206-207

fun facts:

616 won by 1 vote in the last minute (see live feed)

the aa vs 616 poll had more than 4 times the votes that the 1872 vs mcu poll had

voters on both sides very specifically threatened to make 15 side accounts (see below)

*ahem* i also have some prepared remarks

i would first like to congratulate 616, the homeland, the mothership, the birth of it all on winning the bloodbath by the skin of their teeth!! extra good news: no one has to commit any crimes or deactivate their blogs or go off grid

next i would like to commend aa for their great sportsmanship and silent mysterious powerful ways. we love avengers assemble, we thank avengers assemble, avengers assemble has never done anything wrong, to know avengers assemble is to know peace and prosperity

1872 put up a good fight and this was by no means a moral defeat, we must always bear in mind that every cowboy story is an 1872 story and as long as that's true we can never really lose

mcu.............. oh mcu i'll see you tomorrow on the frontlines in the trenches

[thorarms]

I know its a bit late to be ragging on the loki series still but i do think it would have been very funny if ut had a bit where loki travelled back to the 1800s, when neopaganism was taking its first tiny steps, and called bullshit on everything they were doing