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#what happened to innocent until proven with proofs guilty?
nunap · 24 days
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Koppers proving their morals are all over the place once again
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lex9923 · 6 months
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Tw// SA
This will be my one and only official statement on this situation, because frankly I’m done with all of this mental hopscotch happening.
I am a sexual assault victim. I was the same age as Caiti is now when it happened, and I was cornered with his hands down my pants touching my vagina and up my shirt touching my boobs, while I tried to get away and make it stop. I still to this day don’t know who my attacker was, but it will follow me for the rest of my life. It’s been five years since then, and my story has not changed once. Not ever. I hadn’t told people for a couple years cause I thought since I didn’t know who my attacker was, I wouldn’t be believed. As well as the fact that I came forward about a sexual harassment I faced at a job and was met with “well, boys will be boys”. Through it all, I am here, and I survived.
Watching the reaction to this situation from both of the main parties involved, those who weren’t there, those who were, and the fans had sent me spiraling. I’ve spent the past two weeks reliving that trauma from five years ago cause I thought I misinterpreted my assault as something else. I had not, and never have. It’s been incredibly invalidating watching the alleged “victim” change the story multiple times, make fake texts, omit important information, all while not even listening to the person she accused of a criminally offensive act.
Caiti is absolutely allowed to feel uncomfortable and regret what happened after the fact, but it is not, and will not ever be assault-unless George actually did touch her boobs, and then that will be a different discussion, but with her credibility disappearing, I’ll only believe it if he admits it himself. I’m trying to extend grace to her being young, sexually inexperienced, and caught up in online culture, but it’s hard the longer this gets dragged out. There are things you do when approaching a situation like this:
1. You absolutely need to provide evidence and proof of your claims. You can’t prove something that never happened, but you can prove something that did. It’s why it’s innocent until proven guilty. Expecting people to blindly believe you is delusional at worst and ignorant at best.
2. You must absolutely have your story 100% correct and factual to how you perceived what happened, before bringing forth any accusations. Using purposefully charged language and then changing the story to match the one you accused is not it. Nor is changing your story yet again when people are catching on to the inconsistencies.
3. Allow the accused person to defend themself. You can’t expect people to listen to all of your claims-most of them blindly doing so-and then get upset when people wait for both sides to say their piece, especially when you present no evidence at your initial statement. Again, you have to prove guilt. If you can’t prove it, the accused are allowed to defend themself.
4. You are in no way obligated to accept apologies, but acknowledging one was made-multiple times in fact- is the bare minimum. Trying to change your story one last time to make it seem even worse than what you both agreed upon, and then hiding behind “I’m not going to address this anymore” is manipulative at worst and cowardly at best.
I hope Caiti gets therapy, cause it’s clear she’s been severely affected by something, though I’m not sure she even knows what it is. I also hope she learns from this, and next time utilizes the “direct message” function every single app has. This could have been a dm, and the way it spiraled has been a shitshow and her intentions are coming off less and less pure the more this gets dragged out. I’m so sorry she was uncomfortable, and regretful, but until she shows any proof whatsoever of any assault happening, it will never be. I hope she heals, and I hope she gets better friends cause they have all failed her.
For George, I’m sorry this got blown so out of proportion and no one even privately talked to him about any uncomfortability being felt. I’m sorry his friends are performative. I’m hopeful that he was made aware of things he wasn’t before, and will do better next time. He is not irredeemable, and I believe growth is possible (the difference in his two responses proves as such). I hope this isn’t the last we see of him or his content, and I hope he can heal from this as well.
To my fellow SA survivors, I’m so incredibly sorry that our trauma has been thrown around like this. Our hurt and pain do not deserve to be mocked in this way, and I wish it would’ve never even happened. You’re stronger than what happened, regardless of how shitty this situation has been for us. And as a 24 year old, I like to consider myself a big sister of sorts, so I love all of you. We got through it then, we’ll do it again.
Speaking woman to woman, I’m sorry this has been so messed up. This will make it harder for us to come forward in the future and that is indescribably frustrating. However, that does not take away from the pain and hurt we went through, and I hope if you do have the strength to come forward, you are believed.
I’m done with this whole situation. It should not have come to this point, and if you stayed this far, I greatly appreciate you reading this. One last time. Caiti, I’m sorry you were so uncomfortable. Get therapy, better friends, and take a break from the internet. George, I hope you learn from this situation, and I’m sorry you were made out to be a criminally offensive person before giving your side or anyone ever speaking to you.
I hope you both heal.
I hope sexual assault victims having to relive trauma, and are affected by this continue to heal.
I love you all.
Lex
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carpedzem · 6 months
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hi
under the cut i want to talk a little bit, maybe overshare as well. ill try to keep it short (rereading nat here. i didnt). its a sad post, might make some of you angry but not for the reasons you think
i was staying away on purpose, but a few people asked about me so i wanted to let you know that hey, im lurking, im waiting to see what happens. maybe some things will change in the future but im putting it out here so its all in one place
i think i want to start with saying thank you again for sticking around, supporting my art and my thoughts and having discussions with me. i really opened up about myself and what I created here. im very anxious person and it influences my life on every level, so being heard, seeing people laughing at my jokes, loving my art has been so so important to me
about the situation, the gogcident if you will, i logged out as soon as i saw things going down and been getting updates though different source. and while situation is still on going and i dont know where it will go, as how it ends, theres two or three things im firm on that will always be true for me:
i really hate how believe all victims turns into believe everyone who speaks first, no matter what they say, no matter context, no matter proof. the first statement made in this case was untrue in a lot of important details and while i dont think caitis feeling are wrong or invalid i think her first statement made this situation into something it isnt. i think every victim should be heard but attacking everyone who was accused right away is not a solution
i do believe that everyone who was accused of anything has every right to defend themselves. the way its constantly taken away from dteam is not lost on me and its insane and upsetting
you can be traumatized by the events that werent in its core meant to be traumatizing. sometimes people act shitty and leave scars on you and sometimes you can do the same to other people
edited note bc i want this to be here as well: guilty until proven innocent is a crazy mindset and i cannot imagine situation that i would allow it. some idiots dont even realise how dangerous rhetoric that is. including accusers not being obligated to provide any proof of their claims
twt is the worst thing to deal with any discourse, misunderstanding or any delicate situation. i think no ones there cares for any victims period. i wish that place the worst
okay so what now. i havent decided yet. georges and dreams moves so far confirmed for me that no matter what happened it wasnt with malicious intentions. ill wait to see how this plays out and then ill decide about my next steps. one think i did for sure is i uninstalled twt from my phone (and that already bit my ass the moment dream started his space…) that part of fandom, both people who like (liked?) and hate dream is so damn self-destructive, toxic, manipulative and performative it wasnt worth it anymore. for here, i dont know yet. i dont hate dteam, i think this is very unfortunate and sad and complicated situation that left people very deeply hurt. and i wish it wasnt this way and im pretty sure dteam also wish that. but they cant change it and i cant change it even more
now this is something i dont really know how to tell you but let me try. i never mentioned this bc when i had those realizations, it was too late, everyone moved on and i felt stupid for dwelling on this. i feel stupid now, typing this. the thing is, drituation left me quite traumatized. fucking pathetic, i know. the sudden explosion of fandom left me really badly hurt. i lost a lot of people i genuinely believed to be friends with, and i miss them dearly. i felt, fuck it, still feel deeply betrayed by some of them. i dont want people guess who is who thats not the point, those people moved on long time ago. but that hurt has been really difficult to deal with, especially since realistically i know its quite stupid. crying over some people who were following me back for a few months? but i tried to let myself heal and grow love for this community again and i thought we will be okay. drituation felt like the end of the world but we got through it and I thought we are smarter. and well. im not trying to blame anyone or even a whole community, idk maybe i want to blame the universe for putting me here or society for working this way i dont know. but im hurting and i need to find a better way to deal with things going the wrong way. and it deeply upsets me but im afraid that i have to learn how to love you all less. and i honestly dont know yet what that means, how moving forward will look like. i dont have to make this decision now so i let myself stay away from social media for a while still and then go with presented situation the best i can. i dont try to make anyone responsible for my wellbeing i want to make this clear. im just trying to share my feelings and give you context for whatever happen in the nearest future. no matter what i need more healthy relationship not even with ccs but with community itself (and if you see me rebloging hazbin hotel fanarts. spare me...)
in this place i do want to state that no matter what i dont think dteam are bad people. im not closing myself at possibility of participating in the fandom, probably less though things i mentioned earlier. but if any of those things make you uncomfortable in any way, feel free to unfollow/softblock
im leaving my askbox open if anyone has anything to say, add, or idk, scream at me. not sure if i answer any tho. also if i delete this post in the next 10 minutes out of embarrassment then well, haha
on the final note i want once again thank you all for supporting me when i needed help for my cat. you all did something amazing, something i will never forget and i wish to hug everyone of you in person. thank you
see you around. one day. maybe tomorrow maybe in 10 days. idk
and if you are moving on in different direction, if we ever meet again, dont be a stranger
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ceasarslegion · 8 months
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Im gonna be real with yall seeing the state of callout culture on the internet tells me that none of you actually know what "believe the victims" means.
You arent gonna wanna hear this but it means "when people present evidence that something bad has happened to them, believe them." NOT "blindly believe every inflammatory claim against someone you see on the internet" because you dont know what the motives behind the latter are. You dont know the person making the claim.
And evidence means "things that provide proof BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT," not "out of context discord screenshots that can be incredibly easily photoshopped to look legitimate."
And also by the way, this goes not double but triple for claims of extremely vile things that can ruin peoples lives if you play guilty-until-proven-innocent with. Im not going to perpetuate this shit against people i dont know when i dont know you or your motives either. And besides, if you actually do have legitimate evidence for disgusting claims against someone else, why the fuck are you writing a tumblr callout post instead of going to THE AUTHORITIES OR A LAWYER if you really do care about the victims???
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slytherheign · 2 years
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WORTH THE PAIN | tasm!peter parker
PART 4/5 OF WORTH: THE SERIES.
PAIRING: tasm!peter parker x fem!reader
WORD COUNT: 4.7k
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SUMMARY: trusts are broken and tensions rise as everyone’s secrets start to reveal themselves.
WARNINGS: sexual assault, character death, manipulation, stalking, cursing, violence, and canon-typical injuries. let me know if i missed any warnings. [⚠︎︎RATING: 17+]
AUTHOR’S NOTE: please remember that this is fan fiction and so some characters here will not act exactly the same way as their original material. this is my own twist and take of those characters.
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DESTINATION: Angst Avenue | GO TO SERIES MASTERLIST or GO BACK TO THE STATION.
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"Peter, please calm down,” Charlene pleaded with worry evident in her tone.
To say that the apartment was a mess would be an understatement. 
Peter spent the last 15 minutes frantically trying to find his missing phone while Charlene tried to calm him down. Carlos merely stared at the mess, completely frozen. It was the first time the couple had seen Peter like this. And him crawling around the place with his spider-like abilities made the situation more intense.  
“Oh, for the love of Go–PETER!” she bellowed. Peter stopped for a moment, glancing at her before going back to making a mess. Charlene had enough; she knew Peter was not in his right state of mind, and panicking would not help them make any progress on the case. She slightly nudged Carlos for help, but her partner was glued to his place, still shocked by the sudden change in Peter’s behavior. 
And to think that all it took was a name for Peter to behave like this.
“Peter, please,” she tried once again. “We can’t draw conclusions immediately. I know you’re really worried about her right now, but we have to be smart about all of this.”
Carlos seemed to be back on track. “She’s right. Come on, Parker. Let’s talk about what you know first, and then we’ll worry about your phone later, okay?”
Peter stopped all at once, drawing a long, shaky sigh. They were right. He had to calm down. He turned around, facing the couple, only to see them staring at what was once their living room. Confused, he followed their line of vision only to see the chaotic result of his trance earlier.
Every single cabinet door was open, with the stuff inside disorganized. The center table, its centerpiece, and the books Charlene kept under it were also not spared. And the couch… well… the pillows were out of their pillowcases, which were now on the floor along with the cushions. To keep things short, the room was not looking good.
“Shit–sorry,” he apologized, feeling embarrassed. How could he let himself act like that?
“We’ll fix it later,” Charlene reassured him. Peter looked at her like she had grown a second head. “Are you sure?” he asked.
“Yeah,” she smiled, a hint of sadness in her voice that did not go unnoticed by her husband. Carlos knew damn well why Charlene was so kind and understanding to Peter, and it made him feel a little sad for his wife. “So, what do you know?” she asked Peter.
“Y/N works at a marketing company, and she once mentioned her HR manager was named ‘Mitch.’ If I’m correct, Mitch is Mitchell Gargan, who just happens to work at Greta Marketing Co.”
“That makes sense. But again, he’s innocent until proven guilty. We need proof that it’s really him. Besides, there’s also his twin… Mac Gargan. MG could be him,” Carlos added.
“Where’s Mitch now?” Charlene asked.
“I don’t know,” Peter’s shoulders slumped. He was beginning to think that maybe he wasn’t much help to them. He desperately wanted to help more, but even his knowledge was limited. And because the case was extremely personal to him, he wasn’t exactly the best person to lead the team. He was left with one last option now: to let Charlene and Carlos lead the entire thing.
“Then let’s start with who we know. Mac Gargan. You said he was hired by Jonah Jameson, right?” Carlos asked.
He nodded. “A private investigator hired to inspect me. But I have no idea where he is now.”
“That may be true,” Charlene started to think of another way, “but we know where Jameson is.”
“There we go. A starting point,” Carlos agreed. “Let’s start planning.”
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DAYS LATER.
“I still have no idea how we got past the guards so fast,” Carlos mumbled. The three were walking down the hallways inside the Daily Bugle building.
“We’re in New York. People don’t really care about you as long as you look decent. Plus, the fake IDs helped a lot, too,” Charlene retorted. The married pair wore security guard outfits, their fake IDs stapled on the chest pockets. 
“Remember the plan,” Peter reminded them. He was wearing his usual outfit with glasses and his camera. He didn’t need to wear a disguise. He had worked here before as a photographer, and some people still recognized him enough to let him in. He brought a fake ID, too—an edited and updated one to make it seem that the company decided to hire him again.
The plan was simple. Carlos would look out from the first floor, round the halls, and check the people who got in and out from the entrance. They had memorized Mac’s face before leaving the apartment, and Carlos was in charge of checking if that particular face entered or left the building. Charlene would accompany Peter to the 7th floor, but she would stay outside Jameson’s office, looking out for whoever or whatever hindered their plan. Lastly, Peter would enter Jameson’s office, ask him where Mac Gargan was, and leave once it was answered. He hoped there would not be a need for interrogation or threats but only a simple answer to their simple question.
However, Peter and the word ‘simple’ never had a good relationship. Jameson did not care that Peter was in the room. In fact, he mindlessly believed Peter’s story and didn’t even get suspicious that the company decided to hire him back. But as soon as Peter asked the question, Jameson was quick to reach towards the telephone and call security, only for Peter to grab it first and cut the wires with the scissors he found atop his desk.
“Do you know where Mac Gargan is?” he repeated.
Silence.
Jameson suddenly stood up and decided to run out of his office, yelling for security to get Peter out of the building. Unfortunately for him, Charlene was waiting on the other side and caught him before he could even get past the door. She pushed the man back inside the room; this time, she stayed inside the room and decided to join Peter in handling him.
Once Jameson knew that he had no chance against the tough woman, he stopped resisting and faced Peter—only to see that it was now the Spider-Man in front of him. Unbeknownst to them, when Charlene was struggling to get Jameson back inside the room, Peter took the opportunity to put the Spider-Man suit on. If being Peter was not intimidating enough for him to answer, then he was sure that being Spider-Man would do just the job. He wasn’t scared that Jameson knew his identity now because the information he had on Jameson relating to Scorpion would threaten him enough not to speak about his real identity to the media.
“You’re Spider-Ma—” Jameson could not believe that the answer to the mystery he had been trying to solve for years was right in front of him. It made sense to him now. The reason Peter had so many interesting shots of Spider-Man was because they were one.
“Look, I’m not gonna repeat this again,” Peter started slowly, “where the fuck is Mac Gargan?”
Jameson was scrambling through his mind on ideas how to escape the man in front of him. It was evident that he was feeling uneasy. It seemed that the mere thought of Spider-Man knowing that he had something to do with Scorpion was intimidating him. 
“I have no idea who Mac Gargan is,” he tried to play dumb, but Peter had enough of his bullshit.
“C’mon, man,” he scoffed. “We all know that’s bullshit. Remember when you hired him to investigate me before?”
Silence.
“Alright. Let’s change the question, then. Where the fuck is Scorpion?” he was staring daggers at the man. If looks could kill, Jameson would already be buried 6 feet underground right at the moment.
“What do you want?” 
“For you to let us know where Scorpion is. It’s really that simple.”
“I don’t know,” he stepped backwards as soon as he saw Peter grabbing the scissors again.
“You don’t know?” Peter mocked him, walking towards him at a slow but threatening pace. “Really?”
Carlos, on the other hand, realized that he was not making progress just walking down the halls and looking at people’s faces. He decided to go against the plan and went straight to the room where they monitored the cameras in and out of the building. Thank God that he did though, because as soon as he entered the room, he saw a glimpse of his wife and Peter in his suit at Jameson’s room interrogating the man. He had to do something and act on this fast, but the problem was two guards were monitoring the cameras. Thankfully, one was sleeping, and the other was distracted by playing Candy Crush on his cell phone. It wasn’t hard for him to convince them to leave the room.
“Hey, man! Why don’t you all rest for a bit? I think I saw a couch there outside. I’ll go watch over these,” Carlos suggested happily.
“Are you sure? Wait—I haven’t seen you before,” one guard stopped in his tracks.
“Oh! I forgot to introduce myself,” he replied. “I’m new here, sorry–I just noticed you getting bored and your friend here sleeping and thought you might want some rest, you know? I’m Carl, by the way,” he smiled.
“Well, Carl,” the guard tapped his shoulder, “we’ll accept that offer. I’m Chip,” Chip nudged his friend to wake him up, “Dale, let’s go.”
Carlos smiled while the two left the room, muttering ‘thanks’ on their way out. As soon as they left, he wasted no time and manipulated the footage. This was all he could do for now, deleting and manipulating all footage of the three of them being suspicious. He prayed Peter and his wife would be done the moment Chip and Dale returned.
Jameson still managed to stand his ground despite being terrified of him, but Peter knew he would soon break. “So?” he taunted, playing with the scissors by spinning them around his finger.
They soon played a staring game that neither wanted to lose. That was until Peter threw the scissors just inches above his head, and Jameson finally broke. “Wa-wait! Fine! Mac is in my basement. He’s staying at my house. I-in the b-basement,” Jameson had his two hands up in surrender.
“I have a feeling that’s not the only thing you know,” Peter pushed. Jameson stared at him—almost begging. But Peter had no intentions of backing down. He flicked his hands, webbing the door handle and the windows shut. If it wasn’t clear to Jonah before that there won’t be any chance of escaping the circumstance, it was clear as air to him now. “Okay! Okay! I’ll tell you everything when w-we get t-there,” he bargained. 
“Lead the way,” said Charlene as she cleaned up the webs Peter had so graciously put on almost everything. Meanwhile, Peter took the opportunity to put away the suit and dress as an employee yet again. On the other hand, Carlos was still monitoring the cameras, observing their every move. As soon as he saw the three exit the building, he made sure to corrupt the footage before leaving and following the other three.
Jameson was a fucking maniac. He had to be—because no sane person would keep a lab underneath their house. Oh, and to make things even worse, a large glass cylinder cell stood in the middle—and alas, Scorpion was inside it. 
Peter observed the passed-out entity before immediately turning to Jameson. “Explain. Now,” he demanded.
“MacDonald Gargan,” Jameson pointed at Scorpion. “When he failed to find out how you obtained those Spider-Man pictures years ago, I decided to hire him as a subject of an experiment. I wasn’t alone. With the help of Dr. Farley Stillwell, the goal was to give him the beneficial traits of a certain animal—a scorpion. We were aiming to create someone powerful enough to be capable of defeating Spider-Man. Defeating you.
“But the mutagenic treatment was too much for him; it began to affect his mind. The entire process was barely tested. We should’ve known it would happen.”
“How long ago was this experiment?” asked Charlene.
“3 years ago. Right after he failed to do the initial job we hired him for.”
“If this was years ago, why is he only attacking now?”
“Stillwell and I spent the majority of time developing the mutagenic treatment. We had no means to test it, so we just went with our guts to continue developing and developing until we thought it was perfectly done. And then, not until weeks ago, I remembered this guy right here,” he glanced at Mac. “I remembered this man and how eager he was to prove himself to anyone. So I decided to call him up and hire him for a new job. And because he had failed me before, he was so eager to prove himself to me and accepted instantly.
“For a while, everything was going well. We believed it worked. And it did work—only it made him insane. Stillwell and I tried to contain him, but we failed. The next thing we knew, he was on the news attacking a neighborhood. So Stillwell and I created this cell—one that’s strong enough to contain him—and with the help of some trusted friends, we were able to lure him inside. But we lost people in the process.”
“You mentioned ‘trusted friends’, who are they?” Carlos asked. Jameson was skeptical to answer. These ‘trusted friends’ were highly important and powerful people who could kill him at any moment if he decided to reveal their identity. But at the same time, he knew that these three people were no different. They may not come in many numbers, but he knew that Spider-Man and his two friends could also kill him. He had no other choice.
He sighed exasperatedly. “They’re really powerful people. Some people are from the government, the military, the media, the news, and the police. It’s a secret group that wants to kill Spider-Man. They cover up the mess that Stillwell and I make.”
Carlos and Charlene eyed each other. If what Jameson said was true, some of their colleagues at the station were a part of this secret group too.
“You haven’t talked about his suit. Can we remove it? Maybe make him weaker by removing it?” Peter asked this time.
“No,” Jameson shook his head. “He’s stuck in the suit. You can’t remove it, he can’t remove it, we can’t remove it. Mac and his suit are permanently bonded.”
“How long has he been contained here?”
“He’s been in here since his first attack.”
Now, everyone was confused.
“If he's been here since the first attack, and the first attack was back in the neighborhood, then who did I fight on that street?” asked Peter.
“Why can’t the city cameras see him? He always disappears,” asked Carlos.
“What happened to Dr. Stillwell? Where is he now?” asked Charlene.
“Dead,” a hoarse voice spoke from the cell. In an instant, Carlos and Charlene’s guns were raised and pointed at him. “Stillwell is dead. I killed him when they contained me here,” Mac smirked.
Peter, being the one who fought Scorpion on that street, was the only one in the room who realized that his voice was different from the Scorpion he had fought before.
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Mitch was starting to make you uncomfortable. 
When you started your day and decided it was time to visit the Greta Marketing Co. building in the country, he started to ramble and admitted that work would not begin until next week.
You were not aware of that.
He then went on to say that the reason he had you leave New York a week early was to get you used to the country and the new environment. He even showed you a list of activities to do for a week with him before starting work next week.
That alone was already suspicious. But you still gave him a chance. Maybe he meant well, you thought.
Only he didn’t. Little did you know, everything would turn even worse. And spending a couple of days more with him would prove it.
Mitch has changed. He was not the same person you knew. Or maybe you never knew him all along.
It started with weird glances. 
The plan was to take a week-long tour to see the famous tourist spots in the country. You must admit, it was pretty exciting. There was so much fun in discovering cultures and getting enlightened by their traditions. Mitch glanced at you every once in a while, but you let it go. You thought that he was just checking up on you.
Which turned to staring.
He was definitely not just checking up on you. You realized that when you noticed it took him at least 4 minutes to get his eyes away from you. You knew because you felt it every time. He was also eyeing you up and down and checking you out.
Which then turned to forcing you into holding hands with him.
He would try to hold your hand and intertwine his fingers with yours. Of course, every time, you would reject it, but that never stopped him as he still kept on trying it every moment you two were in a room—which was every fucking moment because he simply would not leave you alone.
And now, stalking.
You were able to convince him to take the third day off by yourself. At first, he was hesitant to let you wander off alone, but you eventually got him to let you go. You went to the Greta Marketing building once and for all, to ask some questions about your new position and inquire about the adjustments you need to make to get settled. However, along the way, you started to sense that someone was following you. When you turned around, you were able to get a glimpse of someone with a white shirt and khaki pants behind a utility pole texting or pretending to text someone on their phone. You decided to let it go for a while; you didn’t want to immediately point fingers. What if that man was just a normal guy going to work and stopping to rest on a pole to text his family or friend? Besides, he was gone after you crossed a road.
You were fucking pissed when you left the building—you couldn’t believe what you just discovered. Suddenly, you found Mitch running towards you as soon as you stepped out of the exit. He was breathing heavily but you couldn’t care less. “What happened to you?” you asked.
“I just ran,” he answered. 
“Why?” 
“I-uh–well-uh, it’s not important,” he shook his head. “Did you go in there? Who did you speak to? What did they tell you?”
You debated on whether to tell him the truth or lie. You decided to lie, just as he did to you. 
He lied. He fucking lied. That’s why you were pissed the moment you left the building. There was a branch of Greta Marketing in Japan—that part was true—but they did not need you. You were made aware of that the moment you went there and asked for your position.
“I just spoke with the receptionist. The person I was hoping to talk to wasn’t there, so I didn’t get to know anything,” you lied. Mitch let out a breath of relief he tried to hide with a yawn. He thought you didn’t notice, but you certainly did.
And that wasn’t the only thing you noticed. You observed his outfit. He was wearing a white shirt with khaki pants.
“Let’s go back to our apartment?” he offered his hand.
You were disgusted, but you hid it with a smile. You had a plan. “Sure.”
You immediately went straight to the bathroom after entering your apartment. He joked about how you were so desperate for a pee, and you faked a laugh, saying it was because you were holding it in for quite some time. 
You didn’t pee. What you actually did was open your phone and try to book the soonest flight back to New York. You were hoping there was a flight today so you could leave as early as possible, but luck was unfortunately not on your side as you discovered that the last flight from New York to Japan and vice versa was actually yesterday. So you instead booked the next one. It was tomorrow. You flushed the toilet before leaving the bathroom.
And the waiting game began—only one more day.
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“Do you know someone named Mitchell Gargan?” asked Peter.
Mac Gargan chuckled hoarsely. “My twin brother.”
“What do you know about him?”
“Everything.”
“Go ahead then,” Peter dared.
“Mitch and I used to be inseparable. We played the same games as children, watched the same cartoons, went to the same school and stuff, even fell in love with the same girl once—you know, the usual twin things. We were partners in crime. We protected each other, we cared for each other, and we lifted each other up. But everything changed when our mother died, and we were left to live with our father. We were still in school at that time, Mitch wanted to be a scientist and I wanted to be a detective or an investigator.
“We were always at the top of the class but he has always been the smarter one. That’s why he always excelled in his subjects. He was forced to stop it, though, because our father wasn’t very into the idea of science. He didn’t believe in any of the science shit and did not want to support Mitch in his dream of becoming a scientist, so he didn’t have any choice but to pursue a business-related course. He started changing after that. He rarely talked to me and started being reclusive. He always preferred to be alone and would only get out of his bedroom when it was time to eat. Our father didn’t care. He never fucking cared about our well-being. 
“When our father died, Mitch started talking to me again, but he was not the same. I started my investigation and discovered that he had a made-up lab in a secluded area where he was mixing chemicals and experimenting on animals. It turned out that he still continued living his scientist dreams despite not getting education for it. I let it slide. I thought that he was just doing that to compensate for the dream he would never accomplish. 
“Everything got worse when we graduated. He was jealous and angry because I graduated my dream course and he didn’t. To be fair, it was understandable that he felt that way. His way of coping was downing countless bottles of alcohol. One time when he had been drinking too much, he let it slip that he fantasized about stalking women, trapping them, and doing things to them—the worst part was he imagined that they would eventually end up dead. From the way he spoke about assault and murder in such a calm way, I didn’t recognize my twin brother anymore.
“I planned on informing the authorities about his fantasy, but I had no proof that he said it, and he then threatened me when he found out that I knew. He had a knife in my throat, threatening me that if I ever told someone he would do much more than that. That was the moment when I outsmarted him. You see, I learned my lesson that night when he was drunk, so I always wore a hidden camera just to catch him the next time we would talk. And guess what? I recorded the entire conversation of him threatening me. He was sentenced to prison, and we never talked again.”
“Is he still in jail?” Peter asked. He thought that if this Mitch was still in prison, maybe the Mitch that was with you in Japan wasn’t the same as Mitchell Gargan. It was a possibility that even Peter himself found it hard to believe in.
“No,” Mac coldly admitted.
“And how are you sure?” Carlos interrogated.
“Because the son of a bitch once paid me a visit. I thought he was going to break me out of here but no. He wanted something else.”
Peter held his hand up, causing everyone in the room to look at him. By this moment, Peter immediately knew the next words Mac would say, so he needed to act fast. He pulled Charlene and Carlos into a corner, instructing them to leave the city and get to you as soon as possible. Once the couple had left, Peter turned back to the creature behind the glass.
“What did he want?” he asked, although he already knew the answer.
“The formula.”
Mac then glanced at Jameson with a knowing look. 
“He got it. And with his science background shit, I assume he was able to modify it to make him turn from human to Scorpion and from Scorpion to being human again.”
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You should’ve known to run the moment he planned this entire trip and kept it a secret from you.
The moment you stepped out of the bathroom, you knew you weren’t safe anymore. Your choices were limited, and time was running out fast.
Only a day had passed, but it was excruciatingly long because Mitch started to get touchy. He was adamant about invading your privacy to the point that it was hard to pack your bags without him noticing. And every time you asked for space, he would turn the tables figuratively and make it seem that you were being impolite and ungrateful for his efforts.
So now here you were, at your shared apartment, having that same argument over again. Only this time he actually apologized. Like sincerely apologized.
Or so you thought. 
He stepped towards you, asking for a hug, which you did not want to give him at first, but he proposed a deal that if you gave him one last hug, he would be gone in your life forever. And for some reason, you agreed to do it.
Your mind has once again failed to stop your ever-kind heart as you proved to be a fool of his calculated offenses.
He was hugging you too tight, you couldn’t even breathe anymore. While his left arm was suffocating you in a hug, his other hand started to roam your body before it settled on your clothed ass and squeezed it. You froze entirely while his hand continued to feel your body until it stopped at your crotch, and he started rubbing it with his fingers.
You managed to push him away, and with all your might, you grabbed your bag under your bed and headed towards the door. You successfully passed the bedroom door, hoping to get to the main entrance as fast as possible, but you were stopped when a hand threw your whole body away from the door. You had never seen Mitch this angry and powerful before. 
Mitch was not the type of person who worked out. He was lean, tall, and he wore glasses. His hair was always a ruffled mess, and he talked in such a slow and soft cadence.
You should’ve been wiser not to let yourself be deceived by appearances.
You stood up with shaking knees and a trembling body, hoping to get through the door, but you were interrupted once more when he caught your throat with his hand. You soon found yourself getting lifted up by the throat every passing second. Your eyes were closed as you tried kicking him and scratching his arm, but he was unbelievably strong. You opened your eyes to look at what was once your friend, but you were met with the sight of him turning into the monster you saw on television.
You gathered every last bit of strength you had as you screamed as loud as you could, forcing him to release his hold of you and cover his ears. 
And you did the only thing you’ve known to do for years—whether from your problems, from threats, or from love…
You ran.
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sscunck · 2 years
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regarding the percy situation if i see any of y’all try to defend him saying ,,innocent until proven guilty,, i will literally shoot a fucking bullet trough my skull. if u cared enough to go on twitter and see the dozens of proofs the victims put out you wouldn’t even be questioning the situation. he’s been doing that FOREVER and too many of y’all are saying the victims could be lying. just say you’re defending a serial r@pist and go.
there’s also proof of him being disrespectful to women and the queer community, especially gay men. there’s also of video of him saying a racial slur (the c slur) and me being a poc that makes me even more angry.
and to the people who say shit like ,,i’m about to cry i loved him so much why did this have to happen,, THIS ISNT ABOUT YOU STFU RIGHT NOW. this is infuriating. what’s important rn is that the victims get their justice and that this boy gets what he deserves which is getting locked up. he’s a nepo baby and could barely act anyway it’s not the right time to be complaining abt the recasting of xavier thorpe NO ONE CARES.
i am truly hoping that what he did won’t be overlooked just beautiful he’s a famous white man. the fact that he’s gotten away with it all these years is truly sick.
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uncanny-tranny · 11 months
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As someone who suffered from Munchausen-by-proxy I don't think you understand what happens when people fake medical conditions for themselves or their children. Some of us die. You'd rather a thousand people risk dying from medicine or treatments they don't need than someone point out that their self diagnosis doesn't make sense?
I'm not sure if you were taking what I said in that post in bad faith, but what I was saying in that post, essentially, was I would rather people be actually treated rather than assumed to be guilty of faking until proven innocent. I would rather it come out that somebody was faking than risk a truly disabled person suffering or worse because they were assumed to be a faker. In fact, I also outlined my thoughts further in the tags (which I don't blame you if you didn't read them):
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[Image Description: A screenshot of tags I left on my post (plaintext): And there's a difference not many people seem to recognize between faking and realizing you don't have [x] problem, such as realizing you don't have [x] disorder because it is instead [y] disorder, or you haven't completely understood your care needs, your symptoms,what helps you. And some people see ANY change in your understanding of your disability as proof of maliciously faking. When I suppose in my personal experience, people don't *maliciously* fake disability. I'm not saying it could never happen, but that i don't think it's the *only* thing motivating people called "fakers." I just think, like most everything, this is complex and nuanced because it's a *human* experience. (End Description)]
I get where you're coming from, but I think that's a different conversation. What bothers me about this ask is that this isn't treating the topic of faking with nuance, either. Not everybody who will fake a disorder will have Factitious Disorder, and not everybody who would abuse another through medical means would have it, either. People have been abused by people through medical means, yes, but that is absolutely not necessary to fake disorders and why someone would fake one in the first place.
People tend to apply the "faker" label very loosely in order to deny care to people they think "don't need" or "don't deserve" care. I'm sorry, but that is needless suffering, too. I never fucking said people deserve to risk dying or actually die, and I would appreciate it greatly if you wouldn't shove those words into my mouth. I'm trying to be understanding toward your point of view, but it comes across as though my words are being twisted into the worst faith possible in order to condescend to me as to why I don't understand this topic at all.
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blockgamepirate · 7 months
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I feel a little bit conflicted about the "always believe the victims" slogan
Obviously I understand the reasons it exists, because all too often victims aren't believed, but the thing that bothers me is that it kind of assumes that you'll always be able to magically know who the victim is
And to be clear, this isn't about Shubble, I fully believe Shubble, I have every reason to believe Shubble and she deserves all the support she gets
But I'm thinking about cases like Cellbit, where I think a lot of us did believe his ex, because you're supposed to always believe the victim right?
And what about all the people who constantly try to cancel trans women even right here on this website?
I've seen this happen to a friend of mine as well, although I don't want to get into the details of that case; I understand if you think I'm biased in favour of my friend but I do have good reasons to believe them over their accuser, including the fact that the accuser in question had all the financial power in that relationship all while taking advantage of my friend and only made the accusation after they could no longer exploit my friend for money; people still believed the accuser though, because they were very good at playing the role of a fragile little flower to their followers online, and so my friend had to both move to a different state and effectively nuke their entire online presence (not to mention that for years they even believed some of the accusations themself, and it took a long time for them to realise that they'd been gaslit into thinking they were the abusive one)
So it can be very dangerous to always believe every accusation, especially when there's a risk of ruining an innocent person's life (and it's one thing if it's a rich streamer, but my friend was not rich or even wealthy, and neither are most of the trans women on Tumblr or on other platforms for that matter)
I do still think that it's important to take people seriously when they come forward with these kinds of stories, absolutely. You should never dismiss anyone without careful consideration.
(And I mean I made a whole post earlier about how "innocent until proven guilty" can be misused to completely ignore accusations by misunderstanding what that phrase is intended for in the first place, which is to avoid convicting an innocent person (not that judicial systems are very good at employing it). Obviously I'm not here to say you have to get irrefutable proof for everything before believing it (although you should still get that irrefutable proof before punishing the culprit, that's the difference IMO))
But of course I also get that "take people seriously when they say they've been victimised" is not a very catchy slogan
idk, maybe someone will come up with a better one
And maybe one day we'll also figure out better ways to deal with these kinds of situations (who knows, one can always hope)
Maybe when we learn to deal with uncertainty in a constructive way. And hopefully also learn to let go of retributive justice
Anyway, either way: support victims, hold abusers accountable, just try not to fall for smear campaigns either
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xenonmoon · 1 year
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So anyway Jake was arrested
"why are you wearing a fake moustache if you're innocent"
Oh of course, fake moustache are 100% undeniable proof of being guilty I mean who in their sane mind would get around wearing a fake moustache and using a different name than the one in the system. Guilty as sin your honour (/sarcasm)
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Oh so THAT'S where all those Jake/Daredevil fanarts and memes come from, HUH
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WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL???
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WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"
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I find it funny how in the MCU series Jake is on the other side of the "I blacked out and when I woke up I found those people like that" situation in ep 3 and 6
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OH FUCK YOU
I get very feral when characters get their history of mental health brought up to undermine their credibility, especially if they're right and the other party Doesn't Like That
(Much as Harrow did in ep 3 of the series in front of the Ennead)
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OH COME ON
Honestly this is so a nightmare fuel situation for Jake, poor guy
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GET HIS DAMN LAWYER
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seraphxp · 2 months
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Okay so this is out of my regular / usual content but since it’s resurfacing I guess I’d like to take part in the discussion.
I am neutral on both sides with both Melanie Martinez and Timothy Heller. I feel both of their stories don’t make sense so I’d like to try and clear stuff up in my own head.
TW: possible mentions of Sa and 🍇
I found out about this drama going down about a couple weeks ago on tiktok and in the beginning of it all, honestly I was on Melanie’s side. Before you decide to throw me to the sharks, I would just like to say that i was adamant and refused to believe someone like Melanie could do something that bad… but that view quickly shifted to, “im on Melanie’s side because people love to make allegations about this all the time for clout.”
However, I then did some searching around and decided maybe hey, innocent until proven guilty. While I haven’t found enough evidence of a case of S.A. happening since most of Timothy’s claims of when it happened didn’t make sense along with the story of the images. But, I do think it’s entirely possible that she’s been a victim. A celebrity doing this to someone isn’t unheard of, but the reason I found it absurd was because Melanie really seemed like a good person and for a while she was my role model and idol.
But, after she posted a literal song and not even acknowledging the allegations at all really made me think, “wow, that’s the mindset of an abuser.” It honestly reminded me of Colleen and, no, Piggyback was not an apology song. It was an immature way of telling Timothy that no one will believe Tim because she’s a filthy liar. No. Even if Melanie was innocent she shouldn’t react that way. The audacity of her to make herself into a victim instead ADDRESSING what happened, pisses me off.
This all went down in 2017 and I’ve seen Timothy’s video and I hope that maybe things can be cleared up. I believe in change, even if the person was problematic, but if they only apologize to gain back their status…. Then i absolutely would still hate them. I feel horrible for Timothy, seriously, no one should ever have to go through that and I was relieved to find out she was actually okay. However, her story is flawed and a bit confusing. But, she has more of an understanding tone, trying to explain the actions of herself and Melanie. I guess understanding isn’t the word but I mean trying to provide context and proof of what did happen. Those backfired, of course and Melanie decided to just say “wasn’t me” instead of actually addressing what happened or what might’ve happened or actually acknowledging what she’s been accused of.
Also, just a bonus but I love to watch interrogations and honestly Melanie’s claim is the least believable. Melanie is in complete denial (at least in 2017) about it and literally doesn’t own up or even discuss it at all. This is a huge red flag, even if some of the evidence Tim has contradicts itself, it’s still more believable with Melanie’s reaction.
Just my opinion, I feel like Melanie needs to address this like an adult instead of just playing victim.
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HOT SPICY TAKE
Guilty until proven innocent shouldn't always be what happens. There is, and always will be middle ground. If there is substancial proof, that is one thing, however if you are going off of hearsay, guilty until proven innocent shouldn't even be in the picture.
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Sun. I understand the whole "He killed my friend rage." What do you not think we should follow innocent until proven guilty mentality?
Yes lunar might have very well killed your best friend. But there is no evidence to prove so other than someone's word. Shouldn't you find the weapon, The location of the body, reasonable cause for murder?
Perhaps instead of trusting the Lord. Prove it to yourself and to us that he is guilty. Make it so we cannot deny because you have proof.
"Its not a coincidence that Solar happened to get murdered while looking for Lunar. His spear was also missing, and that fatal wound was caused by a spear. I have no doubt in my mind that Lunar still has that and used it to kill him."
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evita-shelby · 1 year
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https://twitter.com/stevie_mat/status/1668312356257157120?t=FpP47kQyljumTnoMis7Npg&s=19 everyone seeing the red flags, you should start seeing them too 🙄
Look until we get further proof that what Malena Rios said, i am withholding judgement about this.
She had the balls to go after Juan Antonio Vera Carrizal despite being a literal death sentence from her(thats her ex who put a hit on her because as an influential politician he had that sort of power and had criminals throw acid at her face and actuallyput his ass in prison(a miracle in itself in Mexico)) but her saying she was afraid of an actor that just made it big and that the system would gladly prosecute him given her influence as an activist is a bit strange.
Especially when the abuse happened right before Wakanda Forever came out and his net worth skyrocketed.
That is what i pointed out.
Any man can be an abuser(look at Johnny Depp who was guilty of abuse after all on at least 1 count despite all his fans believing him innocent), and an Activist wouldn't be so stupid to risk her entire credibility and platform for a quick shot at ruining her ex's career with a tweet knowing she's about to damn every latino in the us when we just started getting places and every person suffering abuse in mexico over ruining her ex's career when he is not even really up there yet.
With Johnathan Majors we got more than a twitter thread, we had actual reports of him assaulting his gf to the point she lost consciousness.
With her we only have her words, and while they may be true until we have actual proof (like we get in most abuse cases)that this abuse happened, it's really his word against hers.
All i am saying is we need her to prove it because this is a very serious allegation on both sides.
If proven to be lying she fucks over every mexican in both the us and mexico because racists will just believe anything that suites them and neither government actually cares for victims of abuse amd she had one of the liudest voices out there, if proven true he needs to pay for his crimes amd Marvel needs to take its background checks seriously and maybe more things will be done for abuse victims.
Oh and P.S: I am aromantic asexual, i dont want to fuck him, date him or anything.
I simply know abuse victims who have never been giving the justice they deserved and men who have been found guilty of abuse allegations by a scorned ex on both sides of the river.
Both exist and i know the law is harsher on non white passing poc than on white passing poc
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porcelain-flower · 8 months
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Hey guys it's Esther, formerly feitansporcelaindoll. I know I've been away for awhile. Something happened and I wasn't sure if I should make a life update but here it is. Well for starters, I was being accused of some heinous things and because of that I deleted my tumblr.
I was busy dealing with life and my marriage. August of '23 I logged back in, messaged a certain Feitan mutual to ask how they were doing, only for them to essentially say "people said you're a groomer, so I can't talk to you anymore. Bye" and was promptly blocked. So I messaged ANOTHER mutual asking for clarification and was immediately blocked by them as well. Needless to say I was completely confused and caught off guard. Even though I was bored and pretty much done with the HxH fandom, I WAS going to keep my page active for those who enjoyed my content. But these people ruined that. So my page is gone and I will not be making any further content. In truth it was a hyperfixation, an escape from my abusive marriage. But now I'm in a healthy relationship and I don't need an escape.
Yes while you were busy accusing me, I was dealing with my narcisstic, emotionally and sexually abusive, gaslighting husband of 7 years.
And for the record, groomers abuse, manipulate and exploit. I NEVER did that to anyone.
No. It was happening to me.
While you were accusing me, I was dealing with my abuser. And I was scared every minute. He was narcissistic and controlling, to the point that he forbade me from getting tattoos or even cutting my hair. He gaslit me and constantly tried to coerce me and demand sex, despite my refusals. Seven years I dealt with this. Eventually I found the courage to leave him. The day I did, he had followed me to the store beforehand. I packed some essentials and found a friend's house to stay at. I was there for only a week because he found out who I was staying with and starting texting them and dropping off unwanted gifts at the house. So I found somewhere new to stay. I went back to my ex's house one weekend, when I knew he'd be gone, to get most of my stuff. I was terrified so I had my best friend come with. Then my ex came home unexpectedly. I wasn't going to risk being alone with him so I kept her by my side at all times.
But he wouldn't let me grab my belongings in peace. He put his arm between me and the doorway, stopped me from leaving and forced me to talk to him when all I wanted to do was grab my stuff and go.
Finally I got away and moved back to my home state. But the fear was still there. Every time I saw a car that resembled his, I froze thinking he'd followed me again.
I couldn't even give him my real address or phone number. That's how terrified I was of contact with him. I still am.
The day I got the last of my belongings, my ex made it very clear he wasn't letting me go so easily.
You don't know how terrifying it truly is to be married to someone you don't want to be with anymore and they're refusing to let you go. You do not know what real manipulation looks like.
A year after I had left him, he messaged again, asking if I was ready to come home. It took him a few more months to realize I wasn't coming back.
This is what I endured while you were spreading lies about me.
And I'm not playing dumb or playing victim. I have NO IDEA what I said or did that made people think this of me. And who did I supposedly groom?
Unfortunately we live in a world of guilty until proven innocent. And no one was mature enough to message me, show me proof, or let me know what was going on or being said about me so I couldn't even defend myself at the time.
Well there's no coming back once you've been accused, even falsely accused. I won't be active on here. This will be my only post. I'm locked out of my instagram fan page because I cant recover my password. I still have my personal page for those who knew me well enough to message me there. But I won't do fandoms or fan pages ever again.
The two people I talked to the longest and trusted the most were the fastest to accuse me and block me. Funny how that works.
And Hxytun I do wonder why you deleted all your Fei content as well. I was nothing but a friend to you. I listened to every rant, good or bad. Every conversation about your parents, your brother, you move across states.
Excalibur/feitansblood you're no better. You were a petrified little highschooler so I did my best to listen and give you advice because I knew how hard HS was for me. I was only ever a friend, to BOTH of you. And this is how you repay me. You yourself literally called me "mom" because I gave you advice like a mom would. Although I should've known you wouldn't have my back, seeing as you're pretty much Hxytun's lapdog and do anything they say. It's sad really. Also the fact you've been lying about your age on your accounts is shitty. Even a couple years ago when you were 15 you had your age listed as 19 so you could view explicit content. That's called catfishing btw.
But my heartfelt thanks to those who believed me and supported me. Makes me have a little more faith in humanity.
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0alanasworld0 · 2 years
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about my hakimi fic/requests
t/w: rape + sexual assault allegations
In the eyes of the law he may be innocent until proven guilty but in light of a crime like this, its very much the other way around in the way I perceive him.
the way i see it, if i believe the victim and she turns out to have lied, hakimi will be showered with respect, love and pity for the situation. he will walk away with more than what he started with. BUT if i stand by the alleged rapist and he turns out to have committed the crime, then i have just invalidated the trauma of a woman who was already incredibly disadvantaged from the moment she was put into the situation. I would be a part of the problem and i refuse to let that happen. both lying about rape and committing rape undoubtably hurts victims but the latter is far more severe, in my eyes.
i'm not going to jump to conclusions on it cos it isn't my place to do so and there is very little information as of now but unless there is proof of his innocence, I don't feel comfortable writing for him or supporting him. To further clarify, I do not see a 'not guilty' verdict as proof of innocence. That's not what I want to see. That is meaningless to me. Unless evidence does come up to give him a solid alibi, I doubt I'll look at him in the same way ever again. i need to stress that when I say proof of innocence, I mean solid evidence that the alleged events could not have and did not occur which is highly unlikely given that an investigation was opened against the victim's original wishes.
I have privated the one fic i did write on him and will likely be switching the name to someone else based on how these cases normally go. I say that because once again, I highly doubt that there is any strong evidence in his favour. And so long as there is a chance that the allegations are true (the most likely scenario), I won't be supporting him. I'm waiting until the case has been officially closed and a verdict is reached to take my final course of action.
I couldn't speculate on whether i think he committed such a vile act but this is a horrid situation and i wish the best for his alleged victim. i hope she is served justice if things are true.
i would much rather stand by a victim, even if they turn out to be slanderous, than assume a possible rapist's innocence.
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soudakuwunmoment · 10 months
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expressing my take on dream is how i finally get cancelled but tbh im ready.
so i just watched the moistcritical video on whatever bullshit happened on twitter regarding him.
i wanna establish that im not exactly a dream fan. i dont watch videos of his or really anyone from that part of youtube. i dont think hes that great of a person necessarily.
also, i want to establish that i am an idiot 18yo boy. ight? im not some kind of expert on this shit. its literally just my take. its an opinion. and im putting it on the internet. as people tend to do.
okay. recap. dream allegedly sent snapchat videos of him moaning to a minor. there is zero proof that the video was from him, and zero proof that it was sent to a minor. then the fight between dream and gumballva. oh my god. guys. god i cant even with this bit. alright alright ill get to it
im gonna completely fuckin disregard the snapchat thing. theres absolutely no proof. innocent until proven guilty, as it goes.
about the fight between dream and gbva. holy shit stop taking sides. both of these men are immature man babies whos fame got to their head. "it was a physical fight!!!!!!" believe it or not, drunk slapfights happen sometimes. just because the fight was between two famous guys doesnt make it any more important or significant.
gbva was referring to himself as Michelangelo. he was saying how dream is "miniscule compared to him" like the worlds most pathetic dick measuring competition. he mentioned his "intellectual stature" guys. my friend told me about how the gumball va TOTALLY BURNED DREAM and DESTROYED HIM so i had high expectations. but no. the guys just stroking his own ego and shittalking some other guy, and people are hype about it because the other guy is dream and OOOOOOO DREAM BAD GUYS.... and because gumball is pretty well loved as a show. he called dream a slur. like on one hand, it is INSANE to me that a famous guy called someone a slur and twitter cheered. on the other hand its actually not that big a deal. yes, slurs and homophobia are a big deal. but let me reiterate that this is literally just two drunk dudes trying to roast each other and failing miserably. a slur isnt going to end the world. like it isnt cool that he said it, he shouldnt have said it, but honestly what the fuck ever. people are being killed in mass rn and this is what we're arguing about and im part of the problem so WAHOO.
and then theres the fact that dream recorded it. guys its not that fucking weird. im sorry to burst your bubble but recording arguments or recording when someone is aggressive towards you isnt abnormal. was it a little bit dramatic and incredibly childish to post it on twitter? yeah!!! duh!!! this is dream we're talking about. dramatic. childish. but the thing is, and hear me out, hes allowed to do that. insane as it may be, humans are allowed to be dramatic and childish. humans are allowed to brag about their "intellectual stature" in a cab after a night out. humans are allowed to be flawed. no, i dont think he was recording it due to feeling unsafe. i do in fact believe he was recording it to start drama. i believe whole heartedly that dream recorded the argument hoping his teenaged fanbase would run to his rescue. and you know what? who gives a shit!! are you actually surprised? are you REALLY? because dream very obviously has something wrong in his head. im not saying that the shit he does is okay because of it. but i want everyone reading this right now to imagine how you would realistically cope if you suddenly became famous during the fucking plague at the ripe ass age of 21 in the span of a month and then spent the next 3 years being either worshipped by children in mass or brutally harassed by literally the entire world. because believe it or not, 21 year olds are immature and are not normally equipped to deal with a situation like that. its entirely possible that dream already had issues, and its also entirely possible that he FORMED issues in the past 3 years due to the intense stress of his situation. dream is fucked up. dream has issues.
but listen to me. as far as we know, dream is not a pedophile or a murderer or a racist or a homophobe or any of that shit. sure, hes awful at babysitting each and every one of his bajillion preteen fans, but thats kinda not his fucking responsibility??? if a kid is going around doing awful shit in the name of some guy, blame the kids parents. its their job to teach their kid how to act online and around other people. and sure, dream is very very likely a narcissist and seems to be incapable of criticism and needs attention constantly or else he keels over like a scared gerbil and dies. hes kind of a shitty fuckin guy!! BUT GUESS. WHAT. so is like 70% of the population!!!! most of us are fucking awful!!
i know i cant change shit, i know id get bodied by even a single dream anti. i just wish people would stop giving him attention, leave him the fuck alone, and let him get therapy or spend a year in the woods or smoke some fucking weed idk.
seeing the reaction people have to literally just some schmuck makes me TERRIFIED of putting myself out there. can we all just accept that everyone is flawed and sometimes good people have shitty takes or do shitty things. if you had the same exposure to the world that dream did, how quickly would YOU get cancelled? im just. im fucking begging you to look at this guy (and other equally underwhelming schmucks) with a critical mind and context to why you may see them the way you do.
im not tagging this shit i dont hate myself that much. i dont mind if no one reads this i just wanna rant. just leave the guy be.
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