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Good to know lol. To be honest most of the time Harry has interacted with a woman this way it has turned out to be a stunt, so it's not fandom making it up for no reason, it's experience from having been burned before.

Actually don’t agree in this. He followed several women musicians/models over the last couple of years and it never turned out to be anything? Remember how people freaked out when he followed Jessica Alba? And he didn’t even follow TR.

And I don’t know about Olivia Dean? I wouldn’t call her a stunt, but just fans freaking out at the point media started making up stories. But their teams shutting it down immediately. I really think she was just a friend, maybe a friend he helped out with a little promo.

Hi, anon!

It depends if you just consider the last few years or his general history of doing this since day 1. We're conditioned at this point, so even if it hasn't always been true these last few years, it doesn’t mean that they don't expect and want this reaction from us.

I do consider OD a stunt, because it was clearly pushed by both their managements. I don't think every stunt H is doing is a full on PR stunt/bearding relationship with a false narrative attached to it. He's had several stunts where it's only played out in the papers or that he himself has implied he's dating them. It only takes a follow, a ig pic and the papers/fandom do the rest. I'm thinking of S*ra Sa*paio, E*ma Ost*lly, Eri* Fost*r etc. It doesn’t matter if they deny it after, they got the attention/publicity boost they needed out of the speculation. But the set up and prompting of the relationship speculation is there. An ig follow has been used as a prompt by H and his team so many times that fandom is naturally wary.

Saying that it's fans who start this speculation without H and his team knowingly prompting it, is just not true. This isn't fandom reacting for no reason. There is a reason. It's very much intentional to prompt this reaction from fandom. If we didn’t react like they were expecting us to, they'd lay it on even thicker. This isn't something the fandom can control. It's all in the hands of H and his team. OD and H got the reaction they needed and the attention they wanted so they didn’t have to do more. If fandom didn’t care, they'd have to do more. The fact that they had to do so little is probably a relief to both of them, because it makes the fandom look bad and they don't have to act desperate for attention.

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You can choose to believe whatever you want! We won't know the real reason he did it - that's if it won't become very apparent to us why at a later date. It could be a new stunt, under same management, a tour opener or they just met or something. We don’t know, but i very much like your hypothesis!

Yeah we don’t know, but I wouldn’t worry about a stunt. She was very clear about having a girlfriend in the same interview. But yes, I’ve seen people freak out about if already, but that’s just how it’s always like when Harry dare to interact with a woman 🙄

Hi, anon!

Good to know lol. To be honest most of the time Harry has interacted with a woman this way it has turned out to be a stunt, so it's not fandom making it up for no reason, it's experience from having been burned before. We don’t trust any of H's interactions with women and neither should we. We should be suspicious and question it. If it turns out to be nothing then fine. If it turns out to be a stunt, at least we're prepared. I do agree that H's relationship with women should be normalised, but as long as 80% of interactions with women ends up being a stunt, that's not going to happen. It's not like any of his ex-gfs having a partner (or H having a partner) has stopped them from entering into a PR relationship/bearding relationship now has it...

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The artist Harry followed yesterday was on the radio talking about queer relationships and scolding the interviewer. I choose to believe that’s why Harry followed her, because he knew the fandom would find that interview.

Hi, anon!

You can choose to believe whatever you want! We won't know the real reason he did it - that's if it won't become very apparent to us why at a later date. It could be a new stunt, under same management, a tour opener or they just met or something. We don’t know, but i very much like your hypothesis!

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Sigh I see people who have not done their research lowkey calling Louis a homophobe while declaring Harry “the proud gay man he is” what they don’t seem to want to know is Harry was already probably protected by the Az’s and the golden one, he was going to be their money maker he could wave a flag and bring in more fans, but the one who had to suppress his own mannerisms, deny his relationship (because it upset Harry too much), become a laddy lad bro pal on stage wasn’t allowed to, so while Harry got to be the “proud gay man he is” another “proud gay man” was being pushed further into the closet to be made to feel bad about or put on a straight persona. Never forget the saying “one gay boy in a boyband is acceptable, not two” and guess which one was acceptable

And another thing not all gay men wave flags, some don’t go to Pride Parades some support their community in lowkey ways but it all doesn’t make them any less gay than any other gay man who waves a flag and marches in the parade or runs LGBTQ+ organizations

Hi, anon!

I don't know if it is as much about not doing research as it is about not understanding their images and personas they were given, and not being able to differentiate between their images/personas and the real them. I think it's very much a new fan/young fan issue, because they’ve never gotten to experience the real them, because we hardly get a glimpse of them anymore.

All we can do is try to educate, explain, lead them to sources, encourage them to do research and make them aware of the gaslighting that's happening to them. It's hard work, but important work if we want this fandom to survive and not succumb to the gaslighting and the false narratives.

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How do you think a 1d reunion without Liam would work? Just watched the Girls Aloud reunion concert on TV and they showed video of Sarah Harding whenever her solos came up but Liam sang the first verse of nearly every 1d song so would it be practical to do that? Also Girls Aloud were so united and loving in their show, I can't see Harry or Zayn being like that nowadays. Liam was the most affectionate one who would hug ALL the boys on stage.

Hi, anon!

It would work just like every other band reunion show that's ever happened. If they decide to do a reunion it's implied that they're prepared to get along and show unity. Just look at the Gallaghers who's decided to reunite even though they don't really get along. Also, bands have reunited without one or two members many times before. Either because a member died or because a member isn't keen on the reunion. Or both in S club 7's case.

I don't think they'll have a hologram of Liam or have a playback when his solo parts comes up. I think they'll divide his solos between them, like they did with Zayn's parts when Zayn left. Maybe they'll have a memorial part during the show, a video of him or something, but i can't imaging they'd want too much focus on Liam, because it would lead to fans just being sad and not enjoying the show.

I don't think Liam's absence on stage will be felt too strong. The others will step up. They're all solo artists now and have learned to command a stage on their own. So i think it will be fine. I don't think a reunion without Zayn will be possible though, if that's what they were originally planning. Three members is too little. They need to get Zayn onboard now i think for a reunion to happen.

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hi Marte, how is your day going? i just watched this is us and well I was watching how louis acted at that time and well I laugh those who think that louis hates dancing (solo louies iugh) and louis in tmh tour didn't stop dancing and creating choreographies and you could see that he loved that, i don't know why lou is wasting time and doesn't start creating choreographies on his tours lol. he looks so happy doing that, he also looks so cute without talking rudeness lol haha he looks beautiful and he didn't seem to hate everyone as they make him see now, obviously with the fans he is very tender but his public image is not the same as in 2012/2013. But let's hope that everything goes well for him and decides the best for him. just a comment, have a good day!

sorry for my bad english, i hope you can understand me :)

Hi, anon!

My day is going well! I'm going to my grandparents to help decorate their Christmas tree and going to dinner at my parents after. So it's shaping up to be a good Sunday. Hope your day is going well too (when you wake up lol). And your english is perfectly understandable, there's no need to apologise for it!

Louis used to be full of confidence, smiley, bright, lots of personality and yes, dancing! I hope he'll gain back some of it in the next few years and be allowed to show his best sides again that makes him so interesting to be a fan of. Crossing fingers!

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Here is a video of Louis kicking the pride flag off stage.

https://youtu.be/Afxd5aM_Gnw?si=6dH9EEujbl8kYHhV

This is it? No wonder why it wasn't talked about when it happened. He's clearly using his foot to remove several things from the stage that they might accidentally slip on or trip on. It's not just the flag. Not even sure if he looked at what he was removing or "kicking". He's done that at several shows. It's got nothing to do with the pride flag at all and everything to do with things being thrown on stage that might become a health and safety hazard that shouldn't be there.

I think Louis' treatment of pride flags both before and after this has shown he's got respect for what it represents and has no problems with it. As long as it isn't in his way on stage, and is a health and safety issue that is...

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Do you think HL’s sisters are more popular now than during 1D times? Some of them have now more followers and fans like to follow them but at the same time here on tumblr I don’t see anyone care about them as much as before, I tend to think that they are not very likeable. and their uas on tumblr were deactivated few years ago so idk what to think about their popularity

Hi, anon!

I'm not sure how to measure their popularity actually. I think the younger segements of fandom might follow them, look up to them and be interested in them because of their connection to Louis or Harry. I would assume they would be found on tiktok. I don't know how many they are.

Among the more grown up parts of fandom i think we're more cynical and pretty much done with influencer culture, personal attention seeking, reality po*n, nepotism, coat-tail riding, "lying for our brother" and speaking over the fandom overall. So we have no interest in the sisters anymore. They've all done and said some stuff over the years as well that didn’t go over well with fandom, so some of us just like to either pretend they don't exist or remind ourselves that being a fan of H and L doesn’t mean that we have to be a fan of, support or condone any of their siblings.

I do think as the fans have gotten older that the interest in their immediate family has waned a lot. That also includes their beards/PR relationships actually, even though there's still some significant interest in H's "gfs". It's not even close to what it used to be in it's hayday.

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Seeing Louis’ tweets just before the Christmas makes me think that his son will be again in Doncaster this year. Probably with another script cause Lottie said she stays in London this Christmas. Hopefully I’m wrong but feels like that

Hi, anon!

Louis tweeting days before Christmas after being mia for ages does feel abit ominous doesn’t it. I groaned when i saw the familiar tweet...

Lottie is probably in London because she can go into labour any minute (she’s due in january) and we don’t know if the family is having Christmas in Doncaster or London. I still have hopes we get an F free Christmas, but if not then it's not something we're not prepared for or used to. We'll ignore it like we always does, his streams will drop like an anvil like they always does and he'll do something to show he's not really a father (like go to a pub and leave the kid sleeping in a strange house) like he always does.

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I think people forget that every lgbtq+ person doesn’t represent themselves the same. It’s not mandatory for someone from the gay community run & skip on stage with a rainbow flag.

Some LGBTQ+ add a rainbow to their clothes, get tattoos, include a subtle nod to the community in the background. People aren’t defined by their sexuality and are allowed to express themselves how ever they wish. I love that Louis has the triangle tattoo for example, that’s such a cool and permanent way to express himself. And I also loved that he modeled for Polari and created a safe space for concert goers. And I LOVE that he included the France show on his live cd, capturing his reaction to the lights show like the previous anon said.

Harry, come back soon harries are bored again. It’s so sad that Harry is known by so many to have the worst fans, even outside of the fandom. He doesn’t deserve that negative connotation.

Hi, anon!

I think most straight people who know queer people in real life are aware that most queer people aren’t rainbow draped, queer activists going around announcing that they're queer every other minute. That doesn’t make them any less queer. My point is that it's hard to tell with Louis where he is on the "need to express my queerness" scale, because he's never been allowed to show it. He isn't at zero, because he's already worn queer supportive clothes, and has a triangle tattoo. But question is if would be at Harry's level if he were allowed to be and if he weren't so emotionally damaged from the backlash he got from Syco/Sony. If he were finally allowed to do it without backlash? Who knows?

Harry does have the worst fans, and fandom always eats itself inside out when there's too much of a lull and they're mia for too long. H is so overexposed though, so i think this complete disappearance is long overdue. It will benefit him later. They've never been this long gone with complete radio silence and no spottings, both of them at the same time, so it's a new thing for us. Louis just tweeted and Harry followed someone yesterday on ig, so maybe they're slowly returning to public view.

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Hi! Do you think Harry has any finsta which we know about? Do you follow them? I saw today on ig one larrie ua was talking about it and think he has one or even two

Hi, anon!

He does have/had two or three suspected finstas. At least one of them is a "fake private finsta". They're all private and he doesn’t accept follow requests if he doesn’t know or are friends with those requesting. We know about them because his friends follow the account. OW followed one of them, so they know we know about them and they use it to their advantage. "Holivia must be real because she followed his private finsta" etc, etc...

I don't follow or keep up with these accounts because i'm not on instagram and he doesn’t accept followers. His own named instagram account is a brand account, so of course he'd want an instagram account where he could post stuff and interact with his friends. Sometimes he fucks up and post on the wrong account like he did with this one;

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The pride flag rumor has been created and shared by solo harries mostly and it upsets me because Louis was the first 1D member to even ask a trans fan about their pronouns, he chooses subtle ways of expressing himself, because he’s closeted and like??? Holding a flag is not the only way of showing your support, and not doing so, doesn’t make you any less of an ally, or less gay. And creating false narratives like that just to get to someone? Last time I checked, I haven’t held any flag as well, and could remove one out of my way, if it’s lying in front of me, but it doesn’t make me any less queer :).

It feels like uk gay culture resonates with him deeply, I am always thinking about him choosing that “ferricadooza” shirt, which is a secret dialect for gay man in the uk, such a clever and subtle way of expressing yourself, but for me it still has the same impact as waving a flag, maybe even bigger, cause to wear that and pose in it, you need to understand a meaning behind it, and for a guy, whose public persona is supposed to be straight, it’s a very telling message. It’s not just showing your support, he POSED in a polari & ferricadooza (two shirts with clear gay innuendos, like come on) and those words are connected to the gay scene in the uk, which makes it so specific, yet he’s from the uk, he’s queer, it’s his circle. He shows what he feels close to.

Louis welcomes fans with pride flags, he waves at them and smiles at them, he knows that only the brave is an LGBT anthem in his community, and he likes that idea a lot. Some ppl need to get rid of the idea that queer ppl can only parade in rainbow colors and wave flags to show that they are queer, cause it’s stereotypical, and quite frankly offensive as well.

It would blow that previous anon’s mind to know Louis was the first to wear a rainbow on stage while in 1D.

Or that there is footage where he thanked someone who threw a lesbian flag on stage during one of his shows.

Or that there are videos of him signing pride flags for fans and writing lesbian rights on CDs.

Or that he included the France show on his live cd where he audibly marveled at the rainbow light show there.

Or that he included several pride flags in each of the tour videos.

I know solo Harries are bored right now, but I thought the newest less than Pl*asing drop would’ve occupied them a little bit longer.

Hi, anons!

I know, they make up stuff all the time and they're bored. It's important though, to debunk these things before people stop questioning it, and they just take it as an already proven fact and a given, because the theory is so widespread. I genuinely think there's a lot of solo harries and antis who think Louis kicked a pride flag off stage in 1D.

Louis is gay and he's proud of it. He's also closeted and punished when he tries to tell the world. We don’t actually know if Louis is a pride flag waving gay or if he's not. Because i believe he's neven been in a postition to properly tell us. He's worn rainbows on his shirt a couple of times, and a gay beach t-shirt. There's been push back each time after. He's also got a triangle tattoo. So i personally don't think he wants to be particularly quiet about it or that he's not a "shout it from the rooftoops" kind of gay. I simply don't think he's in a postition to show us.

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Why did Louis go as far as to kick a pride flag off the stage in 1d? Sure he didn't need to go to that extreme to satisfy Sony especially as Harry was running around holding up rainbow flags like the proud gay man he is. Sony did nothing to punish Harry, in fact the opposite. They gave him an $80m record deal the next year while Louis remained unsigned until June 2017.

Hi, anon!

Louis never kicked a pride flag off stage in 1D? Give me a video link proving it, because i assure you, this would have been talked about at length when it happened, if it was true.

Louis did remove one that was thrown on stage on his solo tour, because it was right in his walking path to his mike. So he used his foot to scootch it further away so he wouldn't accidentally step on it.

Believe me, Louis treats everything thrown on stage at him with equal disgust. I have never seen him knowingly "kick" a pride flag though. I keep seeing antis say that, but he's never done that.

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Today IG led me to an Elounor fan account, damn. And I couldn't stop scrolling through the comments and some were really funny like "Who's E..?" . But what I found really interesting were the expressions of love towards E. How great she is and how they miss her and just cry because they're not together anymore. I mean, maybe she's nice if you know her personally, I don't know. But did she ever interact with fans, did she have a message, did she stand up for something good, support something? Why are people so obsessed with her?

Hi, anon!

Fans are so obsessed with her because she was a blank slate that they could project their feelings and fantasies onto. She was conventionally beautiful and was Louis' arm candy. She was the ultimate boybander WAG. She could be whatever you like her to be. People wanted to be her and be in her position. So they exacted her clothes and made pinterest boards, bought her favourite Starbucks drink and gushed over her influencer friends. She got a fandom of her own.

E did nothing to warrant her fans other than being Louis' beard. She had nothing going for her and didn’t even manage to use her privileged positions and her millions of followers to carve herself a career. If she wasn't Louis' beard she'd be nowhere.

The only reason people are still obsessing over her is because they buy into the perfect fairytale couple narrative, and long back to a simpler and happier time in fandom. In reality, E is a fat-shaming tory, who was friendly with the people closeting H and L and made L insecure, and enjoyed pissing Harry off by parading around with Louis in front of him. Good riddance, i say.

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hello, i hope you are very well, i hope dont bother you my question since it has nothing to do with l and h but i went back to tumblr about two weeks ago and well everything is normal but now photos or gifs of p*** are appearing and also ads from nowhere. thats normal or i have to leave tumblr again lol. it’s horrible that gifs appear to me like that.

thanks if you answer me

Hi, anon!

Welcome back!

I'm only ever on tumblr on my phone, and there are some ads now and then when you scroll. Tumblr has been like this for years. I don't have any p*** on my dash and i have my mature content settings on "allow".

When it comes to the content you see, check your dashboard preferences. You can choose not to see mature content. Also check to see if some of the blogs you follow have turned into bots, or you've accidentally followed a bot account. Block everything you see that you don’t like. Check also if you're on your dash and not on your "for you' page, and turn off the "content you might like" function.

So check out your settings and check who you follow. If you're on a computer, download xkit to block the ads.

Hope this helps!

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Aww Louis’ hands over his mouth when he laughs is like the purest thing. I keep picturing that video during one of his after show spontaneous meet & greets, when a fan was telling him a joke. It was the cutest. Is that weird to say about an almost 33 year old? lol. And you’re so right about him not straight presenting because I’ve seen a bunch of times where people of the general public‘s initial reaction is to call him gay. Happened more than a few times, even this year.

It’s like when he’s so lost in his own head or overthinks that he becomes more rigid, which translates more straight type behavior. I always thought that was his problem, especially in recent years. Not that he’s trying to pretend to be straight but more that he can’t shake his nervousness. I think maybe that was ingrained in him after that cake performance, when he got flown to see s*mon by himself. He sort of lost his carefreeness I guess you could say.

I forgot the guy’s name that was on this one video talking about how he was the one that could’ve sunk the ship of 1D. It went around social media somewhat recently. The guy bragged about how he reigned in Louis. That was literally the worst thing they could’ve done to Louis. And that guy was so proud of himself in that video to have done it. Sorry I couldn’t find the video off hand but it angered me when I saw it.

Hi, anon!

Yes, Louis is easily clocked as gay, he pings everyone's gaydar, because he's so stereotypically gay presenting. I think that's why he was bearded up from day one.

Louis does overthink and is in his own head, because he's constantly thinking about how he's percieved. He's been told by men in power to tone down the flamboyancy and what's actually natural to him, so he's rigid, extra laddy and try to hide his body type, mannerisms and body language. He wants to appeal to straight men and women, because that's a majority target group. So he's not authentic, carefree and confident. He's self-disciplining because that's what's been drilled into him.

The name you're looking for is Gord*n Smar* from the S*n. I know what video you're talking about. I can't stand him...Louis does seem friendly with him though.

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I know you’ve mentioned before that Harry is more hetero passing to the public, while Louis isn’t. Was the reasoning more based on their body types? Harry is just bigger & broader, while Louis’ bone structure is finer & tinier in general but he also has a natural curve to his body. I’m sorry, I just can’t remember what you said. I know Louis does let his naturalness come out every once in a while but if you didn’t know either of them and simply saw them out strolling London for example, what would be your impression of them based on this?

This is probably a dumb question you answered a million times but I saw the picture of Louis covered in cake from one of their first performances floating around Twitter again and it got me thinking about it all. It shouldn’t make me sad to see that picture because he was having the time of his life that day, but I can’t help thinking about what happened next.

Hi, anon!

The reasoning wasn't just about body types. It's the whole package that's presented. Body type is one them. Louis has a small body frame and stature, he's got feminine shapes, small waist, a big bum and narrow shoulders. He's got soft and easily tanned skin and little bodyhair. He's lithe.

But it's not just about that, it's also about mannerisms, body language and personality traits. Louis is very effeminate and flamboyant.

He's got flowing soft hair, slow and flowing movements, a sway in his hip when walking and a dainty "gay wrist".

He holds his hand over his mouth and giggles when something is funny, he gasps and holds his hands over his mouth when he's genuinely shocked.

He's very naturally theatrical in his behaviour. He's also very affectionate, tactile and tender towards others. He loves his family, kisses babies on the mouth, hugs people when they're sad and just a very emphatic and caring human. He's not afraid to cry in public and is open and vulnerable.

It's basically everything you wouldn't associate with a heterosexual man, but you would with a gay man. So Louis checks a lot of the stereotypical gay man boxes, and the general public is going by stereotypes. So Louis is overall not straight passing and is more easily clocked as gay than Harry is. Harry is more straight passing.