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-“Amazing, isn’t he?”
-“Magnificent...”
I couldn’t get these two out of my head recently and decided to go back nd draw some of my early ideas of them bonding over their admiration for this dragon
I can just imagine them nerding out and spoiling the dragon together as they get to spend more time learning more about him
#I havent touched watercolors in so long this has been such a challenge istg#dagur the deranged#httyd dagur#rtte dagur#viggo#viggo grimborn#rtte viggo#dagur#httyd#how to train your dragon#rtte#Race to the Edge#skrill#httyd skrill#viggo x dagur#daggo#or platonic honestly up to ur preference/interpretation#I just. I love the idea of this ship please come toalk to me abt them#im so normal abt them#watercolor#fanart#traditonal art#traditonal illustration#colored pencils#artist on tumblr
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I went on AO3 for fics and was disappointed yet again, so I made a list of who I'm vibing right now. All of them had under ten fics (not counting my own). Who should I tackle first?
#how to train your dragon#snotlout jorgenson#viggo grimborn#dagur the deranged#once upon a time#rumplestiltskin#mr gold#the walking dead#merle dixon#simon twd#invincible#omni man#nolan grayson#dc comics#clark kent#superman#bruce wayne#batman#slade wilson#deathstroke#eric coulter#peter hayes#divergent#x reader#x male reader
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Ship list
Some ships I know/like however no ships I hate because there's no need to spread hate, I don't like, I don't see, my business.
OOTP, Top Tier
Viggo Grimborn × Hiccup Haddock Horrendous III (VigCup)
Dargur the Deranged × Hiccup Haddock Horrendous III (DagCup)
enEMIES TO LOVERS ANDSJBDSN DON't you dare to touch me!
Sweathearts
Heather × Astrid Hofferson
Saph power couple.
Hiccup Haddock Horrendous III × Heather
CHILDHOOD FRIEND WITH MEMORIES-
Basic
Heather × Fishlegs Ingerman
Sharp girl & intellectual boy (sort of ATTIHAY vibes).
Hiccup Haddock Horrendous III × Astrid Hofferson
Imagine being THIS canon pffffffff.
As a crack
Hiccup Haddock Horrendous III × Snotlout Jorgenson
Look I truly get the idea- I DO- but.... JEFBKANDJS I CAN'T
#httyd#how to train your dragon#viggo grimborn#hiccup haddock#hiccup#vigcup#viggo x hiccup#dagur the deranged#dagcup#dagur x hiccup#heather#astrid hofferson#heather x astrid#heather x hiccup#fishlegs ingerman#heather x fishlegs#hiccup x astrid#snotlout jorgenson#snotlout x hiccup
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Scent Headcanon — Httyd Omegas
Notes: I have rewatched Race to the Edge so many times, I know it's plot by heart now.
Warnings: spoilers of Race to the Edge on Viggo's, might contain grammar errors
»» Dagur smells like a campfire and wood, with all the time he spent on a boat while he worked with the dragon hunters, he also has a faint smell of the ocean. When he gets mad, his scent becomes smoky, like an entire fire.
»» Because of his hobbies and workaholic tendencies, Hiccup's scent has merged with the things he uses. So he smells like a mixture of ink, paper, leather, and metal. When he gets angry his scent spikes and the metal smell becomes way stronger than the others.
»» Because of Hookfang's ability to set themselves on fire, also all of the fightings Snotlout gets in, he lost most of his natural scent, so people can only smell the burnt leather and smoke. But when he gets angry, his actual scent comes out more, so he smells like mango and fresh-cut grass.
»» Now Viggo's scent changes after he falls into the volcano. Before he smelt like ocean, wood, and river stones, but now he smells like burnt skin, fire, and ash. When angry his smell also becomes smoky, but is quite intoxicating and not in a good way, so he tends to control it.
#alpha!reader#x male reader#x gn reader#httyd#hiccup#viggo#snotlout#dagur#race to the edge#rtte#how to train your dragon
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Typing in the names of RttE characters and seeing the interesting/funny tags that come up
#apparently viggo is a comfortable mattress#hiccup is a bitch#how did astrid become such a flat character only a few months post the fire tides when she was arguably at her best?#viggo and snotlout are friends now#if dreamworks can grow ruffnut's hair back to its original length in the time between free scauldy and frozen#tuffnut thorston#fishlegs would say this constantly#fuck it he'd constantly be suggesting things to stoick#toothless looks stoned#ryker is hiding inside an empty treasure chest#viggo shoves krogan towards gronkles#just like johann#i might have to trim the angst down so i'm not repeating myself in viggo's conversation with mala#dagur x hiccup#hiccup almost just goes back to sleep
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ngl I adore that idea and now I really wanna see them interact
47. Suggest a new crossover (or mention one you like)... it can even be a ship
crossover? (cant belive I’m going to say this) Dagur/Syndrome
Ship?: Daggo
#Syndrome is baby nd so is Dagur#give me two deranged gingers nerding out abt violence trying to outinsane the other one#also more dagur x viggo#im here for this
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Ok here are my headcanons on what dragons the HTTYD/ROB/RTTE human antagonists would be (because it's the only list of characters I can come up with as dragons);
Alvin - Rumblehorn
Dagur - Speedstinger
Viggo - Skrill (basic answer ik)
Ryker - logisticaly he would be a skrill since he and Viggo are brothers, however I just can't see him as one. Cavern Crasher it is.
Krogan - Slitherwing
Johann - Sandbuster, or maybe Armorwing?
Drago - Catastrophic Quaken
Ragnar - Crimson Goregutter
Chaghatai Khan - Changewing
Griselda - Fireworm Queen? I genuinely don't know
Grimmel - Razorwhip x Death Song hybrid
Excluding Mildew, Savage and Gruffnut because I cannot take them seriously, nor care about them enough.
#anyways. some of these are using logic others just pure vibes#let me know if i forgot someone#httyd#how to train your dragon#alvin the treacherous#dagur the deranged#viggo grimborn#ryker grimborn#krogan#trader johann#drago bludvist#ragnar the rock#chaghatai khan#griselda the grievous#grimmel the grisly#also isn't it insane how literaly any dragons in this universe can make an offspring together? like that's wild information to me
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Miscellaneous HTTYD Ideas
Danny Phantom x HTTYD — after the Red Death fight, when they’re falling into the fire, Toothless doesn’t make it in time. Hiccup dies… except he doesn’t. The massive amount of ectoplasmic energy or whatever from the Red Death dying turns Hiccup (and Toothless, if you want) into a halfa. Cue shenanigans because now Hiccup has to hide his true nature from his tribe AGAIN, but this time the punishment for being found turning intangible/invisible/ghostly in general is fae stuff that will get him tortured.
Devil’s Train — HTTYD except based on the events of the Devil’s Train song. The schizophrenia allegory is turned into how everyone else views allying with dragons. Grandpa is Valka, Grandma and the mother are both Stoick, and the son is Hiccup.
Hiccup runs away after romantic flight — what the title says. Hiccup runs away, freeing the dragons and going to kill the Red Death. Whatever happens after that I haven’t decided.
Space Dragons — Sci-fi au. Hiccup is a college intern at a space fauna experiment office type thing where Ryker is his manager and Viggo is the owner of the company. He’s also a space pirate who rides the legendary Night Fury, a dragon said to be made directly from the Draak Nebula and made up of the mists themselves. This is a legend of another planet, and Viggo thinks that the “made from the mist” is impossible. He’s right, but he wishes his theory stayed unproven when the dragon itself visits his company. Ryker is babbling on about some intern.
Valka finds an egg — she finds an egg and bring it home. It hatches into Toothless almost exactly when Hiccup is born and becomes another of V’s children.
Ideas from Dreams
Draugur — Hiccup becomes half of a whole after he leaves Dragon Training (though not before freeing the arena dragons!), the other half being Toothless. Soon, he finds that he doesn’t need his senses when Toothless can use his for them both. But, because he doesn’t use his own senses, he’s near-useless when they fight Berk again. Now, in a cage, he’s wondering if maybe he should get his sight back.
Berserk Falls — Hiccup doesn’t leave, but he’s viewed as slightly more dragon than human. He gets the scale armor and becomes the dragon master much earlier. Dagur doesn’t visit for the treaty signing his first year as chief, instead sending a letter declaring war on Berk due to their supposed dragon army. Hiccup acts accordingly with the threat to his nest. I remember the phrase “A dragon’s magic and a human’s fire,” for whatever reason, along with a scene where Stoick, Astrid, and Gobber (along with some other Berkians) are on a scouting ship through fog with Hiccup and Toothless flitting around the boat.
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Dagur, What are your thoughts on Hiccup x Astrid?
Dagur: That Hiccup is definitely gonna be the henpecked husband dreading his terrifying wife! But if that's what Hiccup is into, I cannot blame him.
Eret: Because you and Mala are the the same?
Viggo: Pttff, good one.
Dagur: What?! No! No way I'm like Hiccup! I'm Astrid in the relationship!
Viggo: You feared going home because and I quote: She stared at you whole morning with her dagger sharp eyes but smiled sweetly.
Dagur: That's different! She's my queen who's in-Okay fine, I am like Hiccup. Just, you know, braver...
Eret: How?
Dagur: Because I like her bossy attitude in certain private situations.
Viggo: Well that took a strange turn fast.
#eret son of eret#httyd#how to train your dragon#dagur the deranged#viggo grimborn#astrid hofferson#hiccup haddock#queen mala
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Y'all choose a Krogan ship for me to make fanfic of!
#I have a really bad hyper fixation#httyd rtte#krogan#httyd#eret son of eret#race to the edge#dagur the deranged#ryker grimborn#viggo grimborn
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The age swap au has been running around in my brain and now I want to write a Rtte x age swap au.
Ant and Fontaine exploring while keeping an eye out for their missing cousin running into the riders and deciding to cause as much trouble as possible for fun.
Dagur looking at the way Ryker treats Alpheus and immediately noping the f*ck out of there Alpheus in tow
Viggo and the guardians both want Alpheus back so Dagur is unintentionally speed running his redemption arc.
Alpheus and mala bonding.
Ant Fontaine and Dagur vs the guardians the ultimate show down.
Snotlout and the twins, the ultimate babysitters.
Ant and Dagur have joint custody.
The dragons LOVE the little human. Alpheus is terrified of all the dragons.
Heather teaching Alpheus how to make knives and axes.
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he has no energy and two very insistent boyfriends
#modern au#goth/punk au#httyd#httyd rtte#how to train your dragon#Race to the Edge#rtte#RttE Hiccup#hiccup#hiccup horrendous haddock iii#dagur x hiccup#viggo x hiccup#vigcup#dagcup#fan art#digital art
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Hey! Saw your essay about the inconsistencies. Ah ye. When contrasting the Httyd movies with the shows, I like to not take it all that seriously. "But the shows are canon!!!!!" the shows are a beautiful and meaningful AU of the movies and vice versa; I've fared wonderfully treating them like that. Keeping the good parts for inspo and tossing the rest tbh.
E.g. I'm keeping Dagur and Viggo and the Fireworms for canon. Maybe there was an outpost called Dragon's Edge once, but I like to think to myself that Hiccup merely used it as a weekend base camp / storehouse for further explorations rather than actually living there for extended periods of time. He had to make all his Httyd2 improvements on Berk somehow within those five years lol. He would have had to abandon Dragon's Edge wayyy earlier to be able to have a constant presence on his home island that would earn him the village's support and Stoick's eye regarding Chieftainship. I'm definitely keeping the volcano eruption though. Also the Buffalord, the amazing Season 4 Hiccstrid kiss, the Night Terrors and Chicken. And of course the gang becoming better friends.
...On the other hand I'm definitely treating Heather, Mala, the Wingmaidens and all the dragons I don't personally like as vivid fever dreams lol. I'm also ignoring the comics. Had Hiccup truly encountered Viggo and gone through all of that Rtte character development canonically, he wouldn't have acted as naive as he did in Httyd2... Viggo already taught him better than that.
Those are just my two cents, they are also helping me embrace such things as Homecoming etc.
If you could build your canon however you liked, what would you keep? :)
I don't know if you meant it like this but I do want to clarify that I adore the first 2 movies, GotNF, LotB, RoB, DoB, and RttE. And I like elements of Httyd 3 and Homecoming, but not them in general.
(I have no intention of reading the comics - they don't interest me).
Criticising stuff I like, and pulling it apart to see how it ticks is literally my biggest hobby, so, no problems enjoying it there.
I would honestly keep most of it, so here's a list of some of what I'd remove instead:
The inconsistencies between httyd 1 ending and RoB opening - mostly to do with the dragons' integration into Berk and the new infrastructure for the dragons.
Stoick's inconsistent and easily swayed opinion on the dragons - he would never allow them to be banished from Berk unless he was physically forced to. They saved Hiccup's life, they pretty much are Hiccup's life, and he would never dishonour Valka's memory by going against her ideals (esp since her son basically redeemed her weirdness by proving her right 15 years later).
Gothi's role - she shouldn't be the only healer on Berk, she shouldn't even be a healer. They made new characters for Mulch, Bucket, Mildew, Johann, Silent Sven, Alvin, Savage, Dagur and Heather (and most of those are males) so just kick one of those out and build a new healer for Berk (bonus points if its a relation of one of the Riders e.g. a Thorston).
Johann's villain arc - I've talked about this a lot already so I won't repeat myself but this was an atrocious direction to take.
Viggo's redemption happening off screen
Dagur's redemption happening off screen
the Hunters having exactly the same ships as Drago (who comes from outside the archipelago & is designed with a different aesthetic than the vikings)
inconsistencies with the Hunter's Lore
Ryker being forgotten - the brother of ur main villain???? hello?
Krogan being so inconsistent...
Where are the women warriors???
Defenders of the Wing Lore Inconsistencies
Mala's whole personality - during the trial episode and marriage episodes especially
nearly every woman has a love interest
Dagur x Mala (not necessarily the ship - fandom adds depth to it tbh - but just how the show itself handles it)
Throk x Ruffnut (it's fine its just boring and doesn't add anything)
Gruffnut. the man annoys me - his design is lazy, his voice is annoying, he has an intruiging opportunity to add depth to the thorstons but is never utilised
Agnut. same as above
Astrid being in love with Hiccup but only in a conventional "im a woman and I will get jealous at any opportunity" kind of way
Gustav's lack of character development
the A team should not include those characters. Bucket and Mulch are farmers WHAT are they doing here. Gothi is old as fuck and she's got important shit to be doing (like apparently being the ONLY healer on Berk - srsly what r u gonna do when she dies?). Spitelout is on the Berk Council and is one of the main leaders of their military, why would he want to be bossed around by a 19 yro. the only one who makes sense is Gustav.
why does Astrid have to build the A team at all?? shouldn't Stoick or the entire military force of Berk teach themselves to use dragons to fight off invaders????
Astrid being so inconsistent with her suspicions and cautions.
Astrid randomly deciding to be Mother to dragons like Garf and throwing away all her military training and paranoia to bring said dragons on actual military operations??? like just say you needed a conflict and picked The Woman to throw under the bus.
Heather's (and Oswald's) mild backstory inconsistency.
Heather being a femme fatale.
Posing for the camera
The Wingmaidens - they're an obvious scramble to add female characters but they fall short on believability and worldbuilding.
The Bewilderbeast beneath Beserker Island. I don't like how... fucky.. this makes the plot. We didn't need this, we could have just ended on Johann & Krogan heading towards Valka's mountain, which could explain why Hiccup was still exploring the archipelago in httyd 2. then we could have done a post-credits-esque scene with Valka decimating Johann and Krogan. boom, vibes preserved, plotholes kind of prevented.
ok theres probably a lot more but this was all i could think of. Ik it looks like a lot but most of it is just tweaking canon. the majority of RoB, DoB, and RttE are wonderful. otherwise I wouldn't give half of a shit about them.
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Extremely Hot Takes Incoming
(REMEMBER THIS IS MY OPINION.)
-I do not like Hiccup.
-I think the shows are FAR better than the movies (except the first)
-I think night furies are overrated, especially toothless. No way in hell he can beat every other dragon species. At BEST, he can beat nadder level strength.
-I think light furies should not have been introduced.
-I think Dagur x Mala is a horrible ship and is way too forced, I never saw ANY chemistry.
-I also think Hiccstrid is too forced, while it is a good ship I feel like it's too shoved in our faces.
-I think Viggo and the other villains needed an episode AT LEAST to themselves. They needed more screentime.
-Toothless being an "alpha" honestly feels cringe, giving Mary Sue vibes.
-We do not need a live action.
-And we did not need the nine realms.
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HTTYD X ATLA AU
Yes, I will draw them. Someday… I promise
I'm starting from the idea that the 4 nations aren't completely divided, and that benders of the 4 elements live together, as in the case of Berk, although the most common are firebenders. It's become a big mix and that's why it's harder to know who will be the next Avatar
Hiccup: The Avatar. However, when he was born, apparently, He didn't bend any of the elements, considered a nonbender, until find out he's the Avatar.
Astrid: Waterbender. Yes, again using the blue outfit as justification, but I also think water suits her. She and Katara would be besties.
Fishlegs: Earthbender. What I like about earthbending is that it's a completely opposite element to his personality, he's a kind and adorable guy, while earthbending is hard and offensive. But it completely suits him too, because he's protective and strong, and he likes gardening. Bonecrusher likes it for sure
Snotlout: Firebender. Do I really need to explain about this?
Tuffnut and Ruffnut: Airbenders. They're both airheads, so. But seriously, I think the air really suits them, how much they would mess around. Just look at Tenzin's children, or even Aang himself.
Heather: Nonbender. For me, she would be like Asami (and Astrid could be Korra, I'm just saying). Strong and powerful without needing to bend. She would be good with weapons but would also use technology.
Dagur: Firebender. Honestly, it's the most offensive element and it can create lightning, do you want more explanations? But also, I like the idea of him being a Nonbender like his sister. Like, being an heir, they expected him to be a powerful bender, but he ended up disappointing his family and people. So he went through such heavy training that it ruined his psychology.
Mala: She and the entire Defenders of the Wings tribe are Nonbenders. A tribe that lives isolated and without any benders, having a certain repudiation for them, until they meet the Avatar and his gang.
Atali: She and the Wingmaidens are also Nonbenders, but they would be more like the Kyoshi Warriors. Or they could also be like Gliders, so they could "fly".
Now some that I'm just going to throw here and won't comment on
Stoick, Spitelout and Gustav: Firebenders
Gobber: Non or Earthbender (especially Metalbender)
Gothi: Waterbender
Viggo: Non or Waterbender (especially Bloodbender. Thanks @reallyprofoundkryptonite for the idea)
Ryker: Earth or Firebender
Krogan: Fire or Nonbender
There're a lot of characters missing, but I can't think of anyone else right now. The main ones are here. Feel free to give your opinions and headcanons.
#httyd#rtte#hiccup haddock#astrid hofferson#fishlegs ingerman#snotlout jorgenson#tuffnut thorston#ruffnut thorston#heather the unhinged#dagur the deranged#queen mala#rtte atali#stoick the vast#spitelout jorgenson#gustav larson#gobber the belch#viggo grimborn#ryker grimborn#krogan#avatar#avatar the last airbender#atla au#httyd x atla au
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Idk where people got the idea its not canon, but it's been confirmed that the tv series' are canon to the HTTYD cinema universe. Richard Hamilton literally confirmed it.
That also leads me to the fact that there Snotlout x Hiccup shippers? That's legit incest, they are COUSINS! Idc about your shipping opinions and etc, it's canon they are cousins and shipping them is gross.
And an ass ton of Dagur x Hiccup, Viggo x Hiccup, AND Dagur x Hiccup x Viggo, too! WTF?! Hiccup is 19 in RTTE. Why do people ship him with full grown men over the age of 21 who have tried to kill him more than once?! I'm so tired of these people 😒 😭
Edit: Okay so the shows are loosely canon, but still canon none the less.
#httyd#swerveable#rtte#proshitters dni#tw proship#hiccup haddock#snotlout jorgenson#dagur the deranged#viggo grimborn#heather the unhinged
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