#vagueposting sorta

[artemissoftstepper]

god we’re such an anxious wreck

when and in what way are we supposed to respond in conversations

it’s so much worse when online because the moment can just past irl but not responding to messages lasts forever

so uhhhh sorry if we disappear for conversations 9/10 times we just didn’t know what to say

[abortpawpatrol]

it's funny, you don't really realize how prone you are to addiction when struggling with depression because everything just feels like shit.

then as you recover, you find things that give you joy, doesn't have to be alcohol or drugs, just little things that get you high with excitement and happiness to the point where days become a blur and for the first fucking time in years, you just feel genuine happiness

and then you don't get your fix for like. one? two days?

and you're fucked and tired and everything is shit again, you feel irritable and snappy and

and I know reliance is fine, that whatever gets you through the shit is better than drowning in it, but jesus it scares me a bit to realize how quick the fall is

[purplink8]

Okay what is with those posts making Light out to be a Republican?? And transphobic/homophobic for that matter while Misa is an ally? 😭

Babes, it's Misa who was homophobic in canon. And while we're not shown Light's opinions on homosexuality afaik, Light is not really much judgemental about how people present themselves (see how he picks out a spot suitable for L to sit the way he sits).

I know it's 'funny' to make fun of problematic characters but you don't need to add whole new unfounded flaws to their character to do so holy shit

[wheezecheese]

you wonder why you life won’t change. It’s Becuase you refuse to look at it from any perspective but the one you’ve got. Hell, you don’t understand that actions affect others, even if we go great lengths not to show it. You’ll never change your reality Becuase you can’t change your perception.

Anyways

going off tumblr for the night

I’m gonna go play my cozy games and refuse to thing now :3

[rainbowolfe]

Dropping everything for Shamkira

[ohnoitsjesster]

sorry for not responding to your asks, I'm currently sighing and staring longingly out the window, waiting for inspiration to strike

[dr-jonathan-fanshawe]

...Hm. My mood soured for seemingly no reason. It's probably nothing.

[aspens-dragons]

they didnt teach us that during the fairy type or psychic type units in anatomy class.

[yourlocalmissingtexture]

Oh cool, a server for queer people in my area, seems inclusive based on the tags so that’s great! I don’t join servers but I’ll check it out! Who’s the person running this thing anyway?

*checks their profile, “men dni”*

Oh.

[gooptrials]

i wish i did not lack emotions this much because it makes navigating things very hard

[dreamsy990]

sigh. sometimes you make a decision you know was right for yourself but may have hurt someone else and there was nothing else you could have done but you still think about it constantly wondering if thats really true. what if there was a better choice what if you could have done something different. what if you didnt care so much about yourself and stayed no matter how much it was fucking you up because maybe it wouldve helped someone else. but you cant go back

[5-7-9]

at some point you gotta ask why you’re self projecting onto a villain (who’s a stand in for a real life shitty issue in society (my society specifically, idk if or how capitalism looks outside the US) ) for your negative experience in a relationship. When there’s another character that literally plot wise goes through a shitty relationship. Like, there’s clearly a choice here. And i think it’s kinda messed up to use that canon character to uplift your fav character for a dynamic that doesn’t exist. Plus, im pretty sure he was changed into having a toxic relationship. Which, doesn’t look good for you. Especially when ive seen you do that with another toxic relationship before. Its honestly weird how you keep victimizing and sympathizing with one side in TOXIC relationships. Toxic is mutually terrible. Idk why you aren’t sympathizing with actual abusive relationships?

[the-pea-and-the-sun]

it makes me so crazy to think abt like ur not even a bugs bunny fan and i feel like u understand him a lot better than. many many many other people. most people really. like ur daffy/bugs marketing thing is right on the money, i was jus thinking abt how i feel like baffy is kind of the inevitable consequence of bugs' character getting neutered. my favorite version of bugs (i cant rly call it "real" bugs bcz at this point neutered bugs has been around longer and is the more culturally pervasive version of him) really is just completely unshippable except in terrible disaster relationships that dont work out. HES NOT ALWAYS A GOOD DUDE!!!!! HES GREEDY AND MEAN (an even kinda sadistic sometimes) AN THAT CAN BE REALLY FUN I THINK !!!! post-chuck jones bugs really feels like. Moralized bugs to me which i feel like ppl have a more comfortable time engaging with bcz its easier to explain why u like but like. aurgh it makes me sad. bugs' fundamental self-interest and lack of need for anyone's approval of what he's doing is such an important cornerstone to what makes him appealing to me, and even that can be really empowering too!! u can examine that through a queer lens on its own!!!

im a big big bugs aromantic believer. i dont even think u need to necessarily refer to it that narrowly to engage w him that way, he's just the other side of the queer coin to me. like living fundamentally for yourself and your own happiness instead of for relationships/marriage/family/etc, expressing urself in ways that other ppl will never come around to liking/understanding... bugs is absolutely a fundamentally queer character to me but theres other ways to be queer than gay romance. (and btw, bugs being interested in other people at all is kind of also a jones-ism to me. like u cant comprehend bugs' being motivated to fuck with ppl for its own sake so in addition to "bugs can never be the bad guy" u also get all these weird hot girl-bunny characters...)

i feel like it started with bugs getting more popular that daffy, his appeal getting fundamentally misunderstood by chuck, and then daffy being adjusted to fit into that structure (because oops!! turns out it actually is fun to have a character who's just plain greedy and petty w/o regard for others sometimes)

it makes me very sad to think about. i feel like we r finally getting ppl who understand what are (to me) the most appealing part of daffy and porky's characters but we still havent really gotten any GOOD bugs content since like. the 40s

OKAY. here is my Memorandum on why i don’t like B💥ffy (please forgive the ridiculous censoring, i don’t want this to show up in the tags for people just minding their own business) or, more accurately, the attitudes surrounding it. this just a huge huge huge rant 6 years in the making, you’re free to reblog but i’m not trying to start any sort of drama or conflict because that’s dumb and we all have better uses of our time! and it really is not that serious. i just need to lay out my thoughts so i can neatly put them away.

so there are quite a few reasons why, and i think they boil down to:

just not what i go for in a ship

it’s not what i want out of either character

i personally can't see it working

i personally think it's largely carried by bandwagon appeal rather than any actual founded ""evidence"" (ship for ship's sake)

there is a huge, recurring problem of many shippers acting like they ARE an authority on these characters or their cartoons... when they aren't at all lol i don't know how to make it sound nicer but it's true

riding on this, just bad experiences with many shippers and seeing it as a recurring problem. i've noticed the people who like Bugs and Daffy to act like divas often act like divas themselves. weird superiority complex

have had way too many experiences with people putting Porky/Dafpork down in favor of B💥ffy instead of letting it coexist and that gets me a bit irked, especially when i've had multiple posts vaguely referring to me to do this when i have literally just been Sitting Here, even as recently as last month 🙃

SO. YEAH. i'll just go through these points, maybe add more to this or make another follow-up. i've let all of this stew for so many years that i kinda can't believe i have a chance to "relieve" it all, and my mind is blanking as a result...

but it's true, there is just the basic "i don't go for this ship dynamic". i don't! enemies to lovers is not my cup of tea. i love odd couple type dynamics (i wouldn't have this blog if i didn't), but any ships i've been passionate about in my time on the internet--very few tbh--have been rooted in at least some form of fondness for the other. and this is literally just my taste, i don't think i'm morally superior than anyone because i don't like enemies to lovers. and i realize the irony of saying this when so many shorts have Porky trying to kill Daffy, but there's still an established fondness that has been baked into their dynamic in the start, and even with those antagonistic shorts i wholly believe there is at least some form of one-sided fondness on Daffy's behalf. and sometimes it's double sided depending on what tricks he's pulling/Porky getting a bit into the act.

this is also leeching into some other points already, but.. Daffy's behavior towards Bugs has always registered as a fair-weather friend to me. the whole joke is that when he acts all friendly to him, it's because he wants something for his own personal gain. and i'm sure you can make a case for that with how Daffy acts around Porky, since heckling him is for his own personal satisfaction, too.. but there's a difference between him lambasting or not enjoying Bugs' company until the most convenient time to save his own skin. i'm also just largely bored by Bugs' boredom, he doesn't feed into it and respond in the same way Porky does. and i know that's a point of appeal for a lot of people, but not me--i don't go for the world weary Bugs. just like i don't go for Excessively Selfish And We're Meant To Largely Root Against Him Daffy. i'll probably rephrase this more eloquently at another time, my thoughts are fleeing me... but for that i just can't see it working. and i know that's exactly why some people ship them, it's like a surprise and turning the dynamic on its head.. and you have stuff like Daffy kissing him on the cheek for having an idea to save his skin or Bugs pulling a Daffy and kissing him on the forehead when Daffy is trying to kill him which i think is funny people love that screenshot/short so much, i mean i can't judge since how many of my Dafpork kiss screenshots are in a similar context? ...actually not many, but i've always hated that short for how out of character Daffy is in it even with his hatred for Bugs. Daffy should never be the one hunting!!!!!! the fuck!

but i just don't get anything out of it for that reason. i don't like the world weary Bugs, i don't like unlikable asshole fallguy Daffy, i get nothing putting those two together. just personal preference. i salute those who are able to make the chemistry work and enjoy it, but i just can't. this might also be because i just can't see Bugs being shipped with anyone, he doesn't register as the type to carry an actual relationship to me. i feel like he's way too independent of a character for that. maybe i'm projecting my potential aromanticism onto him! iunno! but Bugs and romance do not compute to me. especially with Daffy and vice versa, i just can't see them getting anything meaningful out of it. but i know there are shippers who have found that for them and i respect it! that's great. genuinely.

now we're delving into the spicier and pettier side of things, oh boy. but. yeah. i'll be completely honest and say i think this ship is completely driven by bandwagon appeal. i mean, a bandwagon has to exist for some reason, and i can see why it would be erected: the enemies to lover angle, the subversion, the heavy Bugs and Daffy-focused marketing of the last half-century. in spite of my feelings, it is a classic ship dynamic and i see why people go for it. but i feel like that's just so much of what it... is.... people genuinely don't know that there are other options and don't explore them. you see people talking about Bugs and Daffy and nothing else and so you just assume that's the default. this isn't helped by Porky having either been swept under the rug or treated AWFULLY, like if my only view of LT was through TLTS i probably wouldn't ship Dafpork either because what the actual fuck

but that's the thing. THAT'S THE THING. people take TLTS as gospel and act like they are so smart and Right and correct for their TLTS centric views. i've seen so much disdain for the originals and that pisses me off, genuinely. sweeping it under the rug because they're "old". you don't have to be a nut like me and have seen all 1,000 shorts. i am a glaring exception and not the rule. you don't have to have an encyclopedic knowlegde of these characters or shorts to enjoy them... but i've seen so many people act all high and mighty and like they know everything, when all they know is a very specific part of history--that's almost all founded by a game of telephone, because modern incarnations misrepresent the appeal and dynamics of these characters--and they pass it off as fact and talk down to people who don't like it. and it makes me want to scream. because if you want to play the know it all game, i will go there! and i will bring up more than just the 2 Chuck Jones shorts you ever so charitably decided to use as "evidence", in spite of showing no interest for any other shorts and garnering a greater context for these characters! AUGH SORRY IM BEING RIDICULOUSLY PETTY BUT IT'S LIKE. THE DOUBLE STANDARDS DRIVE ME INSANE. please do not talk down to me and act like you know everything because you don't. i don't either. but i most certainly can play the argument game if someone really wants to and i can do it for hours lmfao because i actually know these characters and watch them in different contexts and have an understanding of their motives and intentions, instead of looking at everything through a ship focused lens!

and that's the thing, too. i feel like so many shippers only look at the characters through a ship focused lens and not through a character centric lens. that's the difference with me. Dafpork is my favorite ship of all time and always will be. but the fact that i can shove them together like two Barbie dolls is just a happy bonus--i'm in it for the CHARACTERS first and foremost, and just the fact that they have this chemistry and ability to be smacked like Barbie dolls is a bonus. and so often i feel like so much of BFY or just , the LT fandom in general, is curated through vague stereotypes or expectations or fandom/ship-centric viewpoints instead of the characters and history themselves. and that's when it really gets to be a problem when you pass yourself off as knowing everything. you're just seeing what you want to see and hearing what you want to hear

and maybe that's true of me too! i know it is! there's a reason my blog is called Dafpork and not B💥ffy. but this leads to another point: i've had so many experiences where BFY shippers will put Dafpork under the bus and it's like. WHY? not that either is excusable, but you'd think that us Dafpork shippers would have a little bit more warranted frustration at being the absolute underdogs... gosh i got so mad i already lost my wording for this. but BFY is the biggest ship in the fandom and one of the most popular normie ships, what do you gain by vaguing Dafpork bloggers or the ship itself and acting like you're so threatened by it?? especially because... i love Dafpork, never shipped anything else and never will, but i understand why people like B💥ffy and i'm more than happy to coexist! but i barely ever see people extend that same grace to us. i saw someone genuinely get upset and making a bunch of posts when Daffy and Porky got married in LTC because it "threatened" B💥ffy. and i know this is rich coming from me, but... IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS? even i can say "it's just a joke none of this matters"!!!!!! NONE OF THIS MATTERS!!! NOBODY making these cartoons, particularly the classics, were doing it out of the goodness of their hearts! these "jokes" are because homosexuality is funny and unnatural and it's so funny to see a man kissing another man and disarming their masculinity! (i'm being heavily sarcastic). Bob McKimson disparagingly described his unit as being filled with "drunks and queers". like. reclamation exists, it's most certainly what i'm doing, Daffy and Porky have helped me work out a lot of internalized homophobia on my behalf and it is through these silly gags admittedly at my expense that they have. the power of reclamation is really important. but.... these are gags... they're not married for real... it's Looney Tunes..

and i swear it feels like some people aren't willing to educate themselves. like, i'm always gonna ship Dafpork but i understand why people go for the other ship. but i feel like that same grace isn't extended to us. and i would be less offended if people weren't so dishonest about it. instead of calling Porky the token straight friend and saying he enables Daffy (yes, real takes i have seen) and that's why you can't see them together, because your entire understanding is informed by TLTS, just straight up say "i don't know/have very little interest in Porky and so i haven't really thought about how he might fit into this dynamic. he's not a focus of mine". THAT'S FINE!!! JUST SAY THAT!!!! that hurts my feelings so much less than pretending like you know all these things and just. AUGH. AUGHHHHH. not everyone has to ship Dafpork, i'm not saying Dafpork is right and the other is wrong, but i'm just so put off by other people not sharing that same flexibility! it legitimately offends me a little, especially because WE ARE THE UNDERDOG. I WROTE THE FIRST DAFPORK FIC THAT I CAN FIND ONLINE. I COINED THE SHIP NAME! I DIDNT INVENT THE SHIP BUT I'M TELLING YOU i can trace all of these historic moments BECAUSE FOR AWHILE IT WAS JUST MYSELF AND LITERALLY ONE OTHER PERSON and we kept it all in discord. THAT SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH OF A DISADVANTAGE WE'RE AT!!! that i can trace much of the ship's "history" BECAUSE I HAVE FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE! BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING/NOBODY!!!!!! i promise we are not a threat to one of the most popular bandwagon ships ever!!

and i also just. really don't like the complacency in this ignorance either. i've had people say "if i'm wrong don't correct me sorry for not having knowledge of an old as hell short as if i'm supposed to know that" which makes me want to tear out my hair. instead of putting down these shorts and characters, you can just say "i haven't seen a lot of these shorts, i'm curating this from my specific point of view"!!!! but there's just such this weird attitude problem i keep seeing and i myself have gotten posts vaguing me from people i've never interacted with!! and it's just like. dude. i. WHAT!! i'm not saying you have to ship Dafpork, i'm not saying you have to do ANYTHING, i just... i. man i don't know i'm so mad i lost my wording.

but any chance of me liking the ship has been completely ruined by the arrogance of so many people. a lot of these incidents i'm mentioning were years ago, so it probably doesn't matter, but i still see the same snark and talking points repeated... and also sorry but i really don't like "how about we settle for Bafpork instead" GET THAT RABBIT OUTTA HERE!!!! i don't mind poly ships at all, but i swear people who say that often feel like they say it just to appease the crowd (it's me i'm the crowd). like. think about these characters for a sec. do you really think all of them make a good couple together and think it enriches their character or do you just want a compromise.

there is again the whole Porky fatphobia angle as well because he's not a skinny easily-able-to-sex-up furry twink rabbit but i've said enough for now. for now.

[broodwoof]

on the note of that last rb but i certainly wasn't gonna complain in the tags akfjsklf

i still think semi-frequently about being vagued & blocked with the accusation that i was """copying""" someone's fic idea

...except that i'd been writing that fic on and off for a few weeks

...and i'd been talking about it on my blog

...and i'd posted meta about the concept i used months prior

...and it's heavily implied to be canon. like a lot of ppl came, independently, to this same conclusion! but apparently i was supposed to list this person via the inspired by function despite the fact that :) i was not :) inspired by them :)

i loved their fic! i commented on it, both on tumblr and on ao3! i was very excited and directed several friends to it! and then a few days later i finished and posted mine and OH BOY...

luckily i was able to ~conveniently~ self-rb all the evidence that i'd been working on this for A While and the ppl who were vaguing about me got real quiet all of a sudden and the one unblocked me

it was so surprising tho. like i genuinely didn't think the vaguepost was about me bc i couldn't get my head around the fact that they'd be so weirdly possessive about it. it was only when i went to look at smth on their blog and found that it'd ~disappeared~ that i was like oh? shit?? it WAS about me?? um

and i can sorta get it and feel sorta sympathetic but ngl, i'm mostly just pissed off about it and it really made me a lot more nervous to share fic bc oh god what if i happen to come to a conclusion! that is heavily supported by canon! bc i am capable of perceiving foreshadowing and reading context clues! and then someone thinks i COPIED them? <- things which sound outrageous except it happened so,,

[monstrousparalysis]

Vagueposting about Emizel's overconfidence + suicidality combo was a horrible idea because now that post is a hit with the mutuals and I'm being reminded of The Themes about it.

Anyways, this podcast is better when you are aware of Arthur's creepiness in a way that even his actual player was not. And why is that?

Oh, because yeah, you can sorta notice and argue that Emizel was like really casual the first time he died despite not knowing he'd be revived in a way that implies he is really not okay.

Or you can revel in the fact that he, a kid familiar with the streets, willingly went to an airbnb in a stolen car with a mysterious older man he'd met the same night (who was not only strong enough to completely restrain him without a struggle, but also did not even tell him his name) and did not tell anyone about where he was going (including complying with said man's instruction that they take specific steps to avoid being followed), and that is when in-universe implications of the level of his overconfidence and apathy there hit a lot harder.

[chxrrie-bxmb]

is it bad that I feel sorta uncomfortable when people talk about hating satosugu as a ship

like

yeah ik, source separation yadda yadda but,, it's still,, unsettling seeing people be hateful towards you and your husband's sources being together in a way that's genuinely impossible to explain

obviously I'd never like. bitch at someone for it bc people have their reasons for disliking ships and it's really not a huge deal it just,, gives me a weird feeling

btw this isn't like,, vagueposting about anyone dw dw, just smth I've been thinking about (omfg i hate phone autocorrect it's pissing me off so bad rn)

so uhh,, yeah

-- Starlite (Gojo Posting)