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[justalittlebluetiefling]

The main lesson we should take from this series, after seeing how powerful the gods are, is why would you ever want to release the thing that they were running from?

[bitchyhideoutnerd]

SO, uh...i been thinking

•v becomes depressed and withdrawn after losing aogami •his grief and loss is so strong he begins to stop even trying to move •he splits into three selves: v, purple, and blue •they enter the abyss of time •they each enter one timeline •demi-fiend, since he hasn't seen him in ages, goes out to find him •he also accidentally opens the door to the abyss of time and enters •somehow smelling his scent split into three, he realises what happened to v •unsure of which way to go, he tries to follow the most distinct smell •he then discovers v's first form, purple. purple is hostile towards him, and refuses to follow him •deciding to seek help, he calls for flynn and nanashi to help •remembering tsukuyomi, he calls for him too but realises that tsukuyomi too was unwillingly split into three •together with nanashi and flynn, demi hunts down purple •purple at first rejected demi's call for help but eventually joined him •nanashi and flynn, after helping demi for a while, disappear •now with purple, they make their way to the next scent, blue's •blue is definitely happier but more sneaky than purple. blue looks like, obviously, from back when aogami fused with v, and purple is tsukuyomi •blue manages to hide from them for a GOOD LONG TIME •blue finally reveals himself and when he is won over, hands demi a glass shard •purple remembers he has a shard too, and gives it to demi •demi observes the shards and realises that one more shard is missing •the shards dont have anything on them except for latin: memento te ipsum •the group searches for v •they discover not a timeline, but a ritual-looking place. •the floor seems like a clock, with I through XII •there are twelve grandfather clocks for each I, II, III, IV ,so on and so forth •v emerges and wordlessly hands demi the final piece •he pieces it together and the shards transform into a looking glass •the surface shimmers and shows demi how v was shamed and tortured endlessly by his peers for becoming male •after demi's revelation, v tells him how unfair his "friends" were. he never forgot those people. his trauma forced his mind apart, self hatred and dysmorphia emerging •v thanks him for bringing purple and blue here and straps them to two of the clocks, IV, and VIII. he himself hangs himself on XII •he smirks and begins the ritual, the one that will forever erase his memory •demi tries to stop him but is powerless somehow •then out of nowhere remembers the words on the shards before v gave him the last one •and shouts them so loudly v stops chanting •v is shocked and suddenly all his good memories come back to him •v realises that his good memories are what matter, not the bad ones •he promises never to split again, and joins with purple and blue into the real v •the real v is shocked but finally understood the repercussions of holding back trauma and warns demi fiend that it may happen to him too •demi, after seeing all this, swears that he will go to therapy and drag v with him •the two of them share a happy cuddle after confessing to each other •YAYYY IM DONE WITH THE PLOTLINE TIME FOR THE NOT FUN PART: WRITING IT ALL OUT!!!

ALSO I CALL IT CANON OF LOSS ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ILL BE HAPY TO CLARIFY

[enough-spider-noir-stuff]

Writing from Hobie's perspective about ATSV is actually super interesting because he has like, zero of the context we do from ITSV. Like, about the dynamics between the characters.

Like, Peter B? Wonder what Hobie thinks about him. Like, okay. There's Miles and he hasn't been allowed into the Society yet because "canon" and these people he's very close friends with haven't deigned him important enough to contact anyways. Okay. That's not looking good.

Now, Gwen Hobie has some context for. She's stayed over with him canonically, he probably knows she was kicked out and her dad tried to arrest her. She doesn't have options outside of the Society. Frankly, they have a concerning and incredibly messed up amount of control over her. (Also that's a perfectly valid reason to hate Miguel, especially since Hobie has a predisposition against authority figures like that. How much Miguel's motives are understandable is also entirely irrelevant in this case.)

So, Gwen didn't contact Miles. Or she did, but only very recently and it immediately spiralled out of control. But it makes sense why she didn't try to reach Miles. It makes sense because she literally did not have a choice.

Peter B on the other hand? That's the only other OG ITSV-gang member Hobie gets to know, from what we see in canon. He's obviously also close to Miles and they mean a lot to each other. But he, too, kept Miles in the dark about everything. He's trying to stop Miles from saving his dad.

Peter B isn't a special case within the Society. Basically everyone is ready to put canon over saving actual lives. But this guy here should have another motivation. And he has nothing stopping him, really. He isn't dependant on the Society. He doesn't rely on them, he can live without them. And still he chose not to visit Miles.

Now it's a bit more complicated than that (and also we're moving into headcanon territory).

"It's not that simple" is easy to say. Peter B has a baby and has to take care of her first of all. He has responsibilities. He's acting according to what he thinks is the right thing, he believes in canon, so why shouldn't he wait a few months and then comfort Miles and help Miles and do all the proper things to do without endangering an entire world or even the multiverse? It's not good, it's not easy, but in the grand scheme of things it's the only right thing to do. Right?

But now we have Hobie, who thinks a lot more than he lets on. He literally built a dimension watch, okay. He's a punk. This guy is smart as shit and he questions everything, especially when it's portrayed as a universal black-and-white truth, especially when going along with that universal truth keeps you in line and just following what the power structure - in this case Miguel - wants you to think.

He's an anarchist. He's a punk. He fights the system. He fights against societal norms - against the society of his home world just as much as the Spider Society. It's a horrible place he comes from, we know that, and community, the punk community, leftist community, whatever, it's the only thing he can likely actually rely on. Okay, headcanon territory, but we're still very close to ATSV and comic canon, I think this is more than reasonable. "If you don't control your government, people want to kill you." (- Anti-Flag). He has canonically killed cops and in the comics it was also the literal president.

If you don't look after your people, your friends, your community, then what are you doing? That's all you have. Community is the core principle of everything. Survival in a world that tried to kill people like you. Being strong enough to fight against that system and bring about change. You can't do any of this alone.

So, whether a rule from above makes sense or not - and this whole canon thing feels dodgy as fuck anyways - friends go first. Friends before government, before absolute rules with no room for any shades of grey.

I think, with what Hobie was able to think and see in ATSV, he wouldn't trust Peter B. At all. This guy chose the rules over a friend. He chose conformity over community. That's the people who enforce the government's rule even without being cops themselves. That's the ones who make the world worse through inaction.

If Hobie was in Gwen's shoes, I think he'd have gone after Miles regardless, but - and this is headcanons based on the comics, but it adds up okay - but Hobie never had the chance to fit into a system in the first place. He never would have been accepted, never could have kept his head down if he tried, or he wouldn't have ended up the face of a revolutionary movement. Comics Hobie evidently didn't give a shit about consequences when they stood up against Osborn and the Venom cops. "I'm a radioactive suicide machine" - he wasn't in a good space of mind, but I think the attitude fits. Fuck consequences, fuck the future you might never even see, what matters is that you do the right thing for as long as you can, and that might be just now and never again. ("That's the way I like it baby, I don't wanna live forever.")

Gwen doesn't think like that and she's scared and drifting and dependant on the Society. It's not the right thing, maybe, but it's somewhat understandable. She's a kid who just lost everything.

Peter B has no excuses.

I mean, every character acts in accordance to what they think is right. They all have a point, in their own ways. That's honestly the beauty of the spider-verse films - there's no paper cutouts, all those characters have their own motivations (all understandable in their own right), and the conflicts are natural.

And it's so so so fun to actually get really deep into Hobie's perspective to explore all of this.

(Also anyone, feel free to add on or anything really, i just pulled this out of my ass but it's so interesting sdkjcsncdhbaks)

[macaroni-stars]

Actually, ignoring obvious implied straight ships is my form of rebellion against people who ignore obvious implied gay ships.

[severeweatheralert]

so i got a new tablet

[skhardwarevers1]

I also wanna say that my friend that has been inquiring about whether or not Chonny uses organic hair products doesn’t want to know for any particular reason? She just wants to know? Just to know? It’s been a thing for like three weeks now. She confuses me

[uncharted-constellations]

The Princess and Hero of the First Great Calamity

The orange snoot is very important to me….

[min3nc]

qsmp members seeing miku and immediately going “i GOTTA show this to jaiden” is everything.

[shiftythrifting]

Found an entire library of tapes related to an obscure Japanese cult (Happy Science / Ryuho Okawa) amongst the movie section of a local thrift store. As you can probably see none of the tapes were in English. No idea what any of this is doing in New Jersey but it seems to be a fairly complete set with each tape going for roughly $2 each. The cassette tape section was similarly saturated with their materials.

what the fuck

[hellishgayliath]

Donnie isn't allowed to watch Mecha anime because he'd say "I can do it better"

The problem here is that he actually can do it better.

Well, it's a problem for everyone but Donnie, that is.

How's it feel to be the funniest person rn anon

[egophiliac]

still absolutely losing my mind over Lilia

[ant1theus]

parallels

[basoogil]

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[salamispots]

gift/commission for a relative, 15"x20"

[adridoot]

The Trapped Gods and their prophesied Vessels

also known as: i wanted to draw the lamb in different fleeces with big versions of the other bishops.