#vaapad

[adragonsfriend]

Choke (and die): Mace Windu is inherently more violent than other Jedi and that’s why he’s good at fighting

Broke: Mace Windu uses Vaapad as the main mechanism to manage his anger

Woke: Mace Windu is cooler than everyone, and that’s why he can use Vaapad where other people can’t

Bespoke: Mace Windu spent many years learning to manage his emotions, including an especially complicated relationship with protective anger, before ever thinking about developing a new lightsaber form, and that’s why the council was willing to grant him the exception to study Juyo and why he was able to develop Vaapad and use it better than anyone else

Also,

Broke: the Jedi council is rigid and unwilling to make reasonable exceptions

Even more broke: Mace Windu and Ki-Adi Mundi were both the recipients of massive exceptions but this is because of favouritism. The reason the council didn’t want to give Anakin whatever exceptions he wanted is because they hate him

Woke: the council is perfectly willing to make exceptions when the person asking for them is trustworthy and responsible enough to handle them

[dippenink]

I figured out which form Harlow uses

[archeo-starwars]

Ask the Master by Pablo Hidalgo [Star Wars Insider #92]

[sillyromantic4ever]

Chapter III: "Jedi-Killers" from Beneath the Armor, Vol. II

Excerpt: "[Talia's] ears are filled with the sound of something that she had not expected at all. During the Clone War...this particular noise has haunted her... It is a buzzing sound, like a mechanical bee flapping its aluminum wings. It hums in a sharper pitch than her lightsaber, and dread settles in her stomach. As she stares at the stacked container’s open entrance, she sees a blueish-purple glow illuminating from its metal depths. Her green, Force-sensitive crystal...in her necklace’s pendant, begins to radiate warmth. It is almost as if it remembers battling these particular droids when it was housed in her first lightsaber.

...

"'Not these,' she whispers as the buzzing echoes louder and the purplish glow brightens. Then, to her alarm, the noise increases in number, no longer reminding her of one bee but a full swarm."

Read here: Beneath the Armor, Vol. II - Chapter 3 - SillyRomantic4Ever - The Mandalorian (TV) [Archive of Our Own]

[sw5w]

...And as Powerful as Master Windu

STAR WARS EPISODE II: Attack of the Clones 00:28:32

[obiwanwhat]

New chapter!

Chapter Snippet:

The Sith holocron weighed heavily in Obi-Wan’s palm, its smooth surface far warmer than it should have been in the cool room.  The heat and weight of it against his skin nauseated him; the Dark Side pulsed around the holocron in a smooth rhythm.  He wanted nothing more than to throw the thing into a corner and never think about it again.  But at the same time….he had a duty to Anakin, to do whatever he had to in order to save him.  And he had a duty to Ahsoka, to give her the hope that she so desperately needed right now. 

Slowly, tentatively, he allowed his breath to settle into a meditative pattern, reaching out to the Sith holocron with a wave of the Force in the same way that he would have opened a Jedi holocron.  It hummed in his palm, but nothing else happened.  Frowning, he reached out again, focusing the Force more intensely on the closed holocron.  It lifted into the air and began to rotate slowly, but stayed resolutely closed.  Again and again he directed waves of the Force at the object; again and again they did nothing.  Frustrated after numerous failed attempts, he allowed it to finally drift back down into his palm.

Staring at it again, he felt somewhat foolish.  Of course a Sith holocron wouldn’t open through the Light Side of the Force.  He should have known that the moment he felt the thing’s miasmic black aura.  He’d spent so much time debating whether to access the holocron that it had never occurred to him that he might not actually know how to open the thing.  

He would not use the Dark Side.  There were some lines that simply could not be crossed - not for Anakin, not for anyone.  The teachings of the Jedi Order were clear: once the first step was taken down a dark path, the Dark Side would consume you until there was nothing left. But there were Jedi who had figured out ways to direct the Dark Side without ever actually touching it. He’d never studied Form VII in depth, but Mace had once taught him a few of the Vaapad katas that he’d created years ago when he invented the form.  Maybe….

[mrs-mandalorian]

Me af

[haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted]

Mace Windu, Vaapad Form Master (Showcase Ver) by David M. Buisan

[happycattail]

Wheezing (if I don’t I may strangle someone instead). Got into a debate with an anti Jedi person about the Jedi code. Managed to get it across to them the code doesn’t fucking promote Jedi to become emotionless.

They then decided to take a different angle where they claim the code is wrong because it could be misinterpreted and that many council members misinterpreted to mean you have to be emotionless. I proceed to ask them to name me a council member.

Guess who they named guys? Guess which council member they named as someone who thinks the code means you can’t show emotions and abide by that interpretation?

FUCKING MACE WINDU.

[bikananjarrus]

in the cooler better version of ezra’s adventures in wild space, he’s trained in vaapad by windu’s force ghost

[gosuckmydickgrayson]

Them

Master Dick Grayson and his wee Padawan Damian Wayne

[adragonsfriend]

Purple Lightsabers: a new* interpretation

*It's possible this has been proposed before, but if it has, I haven't seen it.

Getting too deep into color symbolism of lightsabers isn't my favorite thing, because it often devolves into "wow look at my OC's rainbow lightsaber," (meanwhile said OC is straight for some reason…) but sometimes I have a thought about it that really gets me. This is one of those:

A common interpretation of purple lightsabers is that they symbolize a balance of the good and evil sides of the force, based on the fact that purple is a mix of blue and red, but as many discussions of gray/dim jedi have established, the idea of using both the evil-side of the force and the good-side is stupid and contradictory to the themes of Star Wars.

I propose that the purple of purple lightsabers are not a mix of blue and red, but a mix of blue and pink.

Thematically,

Blue lightsabers supposedly indicate a Jedi who is focused on saberwork and strong in using force abilities,

While (the first result on google says), "the color pink is often associated with qualities such as compassion, love, inner strength, and nonviolence, all of which are embodied in characters wielding pink lightsabers."

I am guessing that's a Legends or High Republic lore because they tend to get more into lightsaber colors than any other material, but I'm willing to take it and run.

Doesn't that combination sound like the perfect description of Mace Windu? Like yes he's focused on saber work--he created an entire lightsaber form about it, and he's probably the best duelist in the Order--but it's all in spirit of and service of compassion, protection, and fierce love. Vaapd is a form that requires immense inner strength as well.

It's a combination that is very much about what can physically be done to help people.

Color Mixing,

From a sheer color theory point of view, you cannot get this bright a shade of purple from mixing blue and red--you can get vibrant darker shades that way, but to go lighter you have to add white, and that dulls down the color really quickly:

If you mix blue and magenta on the other hand, it stays much brighter even when you add white:

Now tell me which of those better resembles this:

And before anyone comes at me with the children's hospital thing, yes, I'm aware that it's a very reasonable first assumption for purple to be a mix of red and blue--that is the over simplified to the point of inaccuracy factoid we are taught in schools (in reality, there is a reason it takes most languages a long time to develop a separate word for purple, and it's at least partly because solid clumps of bright purple are actually pretty damn uncommon in nature. Most bright purple dyes are artificial).

In conclusion,

A blue-pink purple works better than a blue-red purple thematically, visually, and socially as well. Going with this interpretation cuts out any need for the idea of Mace and Vaapad actually drawing on the evil-side of the force and the implication of him being somehow related to the Sith. It allows the narrative to focus on the idea of him as a protector rather than the vaguely racist idea that he has inherently more underlying anger than other Jedi.

[charmwasjess]

I'm continuing to love this Mace Windu book for how it portrays the Jedi lifestyle (and also, it's just a fun and engaging read):

The continued emphasis on the Jedi “discipline” as not a stuffy, fun-hating rule, but something the culture chooses and enjoys and finds soothing, a common form of self-care for psychic empaths, hooked mentally into the overwhelming all-powerful energy source at the heart of existence. It makes sense, I love it.

Once again, a Jedi going off on a mission of personal importance rather than Official Jedi Business and the Council is totally fine with it, Yoda even encourages Mace to go and gives him a pep talk to stay at it when he's feeling discouraged on said personal trip

 YES I KNEW JEDI PRACTICED THEIR FORMS ALONE UNARMED/WITH THEIR LIGHTSABERS OFF I KNEW IT - really, Mace's relationship to Vaapad is depicted right out of my lightsaber form loving dreams. It's SO personal. It's such a big part of his life.

Oddly touched by Mace thinking about how much sleep he gets (usually six hours) and then getting cranky and disoriented when he’s having insomnia/bad dreams and it gets knocked down to three-ish. Y'all know I have a weakness for Jedi running up against their normal living being physical limits despite being fancy space wizards.

[shootingstarpilot]

Do you have any advice for writing Mace Windu?

Hello friend! I've been sitting on this for a while, because everyone's got their own interpretations, but mine is based on an idea I was struggling to put words to.

(Caveat that I have not read Legends material, that people can write what they like, etc. etc.)

The way I see it, Lucas specializes in writing stories in terms of themes and archetypes. This is why certain dialogue choices or the development of certain relationships can be... clunky, let's go with that. Characters (Obi-Wan and Anakin fall into their own category, sure) are written primarily as archetypes. You have Yoda as the wise old sage, Sidious as the ultimate evil-

And Mace Windu as the ultimate good.

We see this in the Chancellor's office, right? During the final showdown. This is the moment where Anakin makes his choice- stay in the Light or Fall- and the characters visually representing that choice are Palpatine and Mace. He's the Master of the Order. He's raised a Padawan who sits on the Council with him. He's an incredibly skilled swordsman- hell, his fighting style of choice (Vaapad) epitomizes how clearly he's mastered the art of internal balance!

All of that to say- his whole character is built around the idea that he is the Good Guy. That would be the one piece of writing advice I would give. If you're wondering how to write him, start with that idea- that he is written to represent the absolute opposite of Sidious. He's the ultimate good. He is the illuminating Light to Sidious' corrupting Dark. This is why antagonistic portrayals of him never ring true to me- they're coming from a foundational understanding that I simply do not subscribe to. It reeks of a fundamental misunderstanding of his character and of the whole saga's themes.

(And also racism. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the racism that too often plays a significant role.)

All of that being said, what might it look like to write from the foundation of Mace being the representation of ultimate good? The good thing about characters being written as archetypes is that it gives us fans a significant amount of freedom in determining what those characters look like when they're written as characters. Different people will have different takes, but for me:

Well, first off- he's the epitome of a Jedi. So all of what that entails- he is fundamentally kind, fundamentally compassionate, and fundamentally in control of himself.

He's funny. I think he has a very dry sense of humor, and that he finds joy in the smallest things.

He loves so much. He loves his Padawan, he loves his friends, he loves his family, he loves the Republic- he loves the galaxy enough to go to war for it, and he loves the men who'll kill his people.

There will never be a situation where he has the capacity to help and chooses not to.

And last but not least, I choose to believe that this man can bake pastries with the best of them. In my heart of hearts, he's a stress baker, and he mends his socks with purple thread.

Hope this helps!

[blade-liger-4ever]

I wish Maul actually got to teach Ezra for a bit in canon. Not like replacing Kanan, but if Ezra had been manipulated into letting Maul 'help him' to he could get stronger because the holocron could only teach him so much. Cue Ezra learning Juyo from Maul and learning how to use a double-bladed lightsaber.

Imagine if we got an Ezra with a purple double-bladed lightsaber that could be separated into two so he could meld Kanan's, Ahsoka's and Maul's styles together into his own. How he could continue Mace Windu's legacy by learning Vaapad himself through adapting Juyo like Windu had.

WHY DOES EVERY CHARACTER USE A GREEN OR BLUE SINGLE LIGHTSABER LIKE COME ON IT WOULD'VE BEEN SO COOL FUCK CANON.

[fandominfinity]

I am aware that this is going to go nowhere but it’s a debate on tiktok and it’s Bothering Me so:

Anakin Skywalker, does NOT, in no way, shape, or form, deserve the rank of Master

This post is so much longer than I thought it was going to be so more under break

The most common argument I see is “oh well he’s a war hero” okay and???? Like that explains why he feels entitled to it, along with Palpatine’s continued manipulation, but that doesn’t give him a right to the title. Mastery is mastery of self and mastery of the force, of which Anakin has neither.

And before you come after me with the “he’s the chosen one and higher midichlorian count than yoda and blah blah blah” being powerful in the force does not constitute mastery. Obi-Wan Kenobi is widely considered to be one of the best Jedi to ever live and it’s not because he was strong, he’s below average. It’s because of his negotiation skills, his mastery over the form of endurance, and the wisdom of his strategies. Even Mace Windu who was either the youngest master ever or youngest council member or both I don't remember, wasn't made a master because of his undeniable strength. Like Vaapad is stupid powerful but it's stupid powerful because it uses the darkness in an opponent against them and requires them to be so firmly in the light it's unachievable for most people. He's a master because he mastered himself and his emotions in the face of overwhelming darkness. Anakin is an overgrown man baby who throws tantrums when he doesn’t get what he wants.

Now, granted, there were fairly significant issues with his upbringing. He was a slave until he was 9 and then he was raised by the Jedi who eschew physical possessions and embody the phrase “let it go”. Not necessarily ideal for someone in his situation. But that doesn’t mean that Anakin was wrong or the Jedi were wrong, it means they were a bad match for Anakin’s specific life experiences. Plus Obi-Wan took Anakin on like 20 minutes after he was knighted which is like, Not Great. So a lack of support for both of them individually and as a team is a valid critique. Not of that means Anakin deserved the title of master though, it just means he was a little fucked up and made more vulnerable by his childhood.

Second argument is that the Jedi had lost their way and that Anakin was like Qui Gon Jinn who was what a true Jedi should be. First part is valid, second part is DOG SHIT.

The Jedi have lost their way. THATS THE POINT OF THE PREQUELS, CONGRATULATIONS CAPTAIN OBVIOUS. The Jedi tied themselves to the senate after the conclusion of the Jedi Sith wars when both sides were nearly wiped out by the war but the Ruusan reformation pushed them too far in the other direction. What Star Wars bros don’t acknowledge is that it was a slow death by a million cuts that occurred over the course of 1,000 years. Do you know what was happening 1,000 years ago? THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE! IT WAS LITERALLY THE LATE MEDIEVAL PERIOD. How the candy cane FUCK are you going to track the slow decline of a civilization from the medieval period to the present day?!

That’s like asking the Catholic Church to accurately track a trending decline from before the great schism to today. Do you know how INSANE that is? So much shit happened it’s not even worth it because the subject of the study is so broad with a stupid amount of variables that influences each and every event. Can you imagine being like “oh yeah the decline in power of the Catholic Church was caused by a single line of anti-Catholics that have been working continuously to erode their power since the medieval times and no one ever knew or noticed because they’re just that good at hiding themselves”. Like what the actual fuck.

Also not only were the Jedi like 90% sure all the sith were gone because literally everyone who took part in that final fight were completely obliterated, the sith were an inherently self-destructive society. My dates might be slightly off but I think Darth Bane was the only sith to survive the Jedi sith wars and he created the rule of two because of how destructive the sith were as a society. Granted, Yoda did know about it but I think it’s fairly safe to say that by the time we get to the prequels the order at large knows Jack shit about the sith because they haven’t been seen for 1,000 years. Plus, it’s not unreasonable to believe that they could have imploded even with the rule of 2 because by the time you hit clone wars there are fully like 4 or 5 sith depending on how you count Anakin. Like yes palpatine and dooku are the main 2 but maul is still kicking, ventress exists, and Anakin is actively being groomed. The idea that they would destroy themselves despite the rule of 2? Not unfounded considering there are at minimum 4 even with the rule and they all want each other dead.

Plus, after 1,000 years no one would ever be expecting the sith. It’s like the Illuminati, this secret society that has been running things behind the scenes for a 1,000 years, except the banite sith are actually 100 years OLDER than the organization that predated the Illuminati. That is like the definition of a conspiracy theory and dark siders that claim to or aspire to be sith exist (see Xanatos Du Crion). So notorious loose cannon Qui Gon walks in and is like “hey, I know my second apprentice fell to the dark side which fucked me up severely for at least a decade but I just found the chosen one on some fuck ass backwater planet and also ran into a sith at the same time but it’s real this time guys I swear. I know we haven’t seen the sith since 1025 but they survived until 2025 and they’ve been behind the scenes trying to weaken and overthrow the Jedi for years im not crazy I swear.” Like goddamn I wouldn’t have believed him either. What’s more likely, the actual banite sith somehow survived a mass extinction event and the people known for impulsivity and violence have some how patiently bided their time for 1,000 years and have only now revealed themselves because their plan is almost complete, or Qui Gon saw a dark sider in the desert and is missing his prophecy obsessed master who left the order so he has subconsciously created this story to give his personal tragedies meaning and called it the will of the force to justify its validity to himself? Occam’s razor dude, the banite sith surviving is a WILD conclusion to jump to even if we the audience know it’s true.

Back to the death by 1,000 cuts thing, it's a slow decline right? Think about the analogy of the frog dropped in boiling water will jump out but the frog placed in water that slowly heats will stay until it dies because the water gets hotter at unnoticeably smaller increments. That's what's happening to the Jedi. They know they've lost their way, they know they've been weakened, but from their point of view every step they have taken towards decline has been both logical and inevitable. Like yes they've lost temples and knights and such over the years, but that was inevitable from their concentration on Courscant. And as they lose knights and the corps are attacked and devalued and knowledge is lost in the crumbling of temples etc they have to rely on outside resources more and more to properly do their job, namely the senate. Hindsight is 20/20 and we as the audience are seeing not only the effects of the loss of the jedi but in the clone wars we are seeing them at their moment of greatest decline. We are seeing 1,000 years of decision making coming to bite them in the ass at once. However, over the course of those 1,000 years, I bet those decisions seemed entirely logical at the time. Blaming the Jedi for the Ruusan reformation is like blaming the great schism for the political dominance of American Evangelicalism. Like yeah it is technically to blame, like there is a definite through line, but there was a BUNCH of shit that happened in the middle that was dictated by a whole lot of extraneous circumstances.

Also with the whole "Jedi shouldn't be generals" thing like what the fuck were they supposed to do?! 1) Jedi being warrior monks isn't a thing until AFTER the Ruusan reformation, before that you have the Jedi Lords and eventually the army of light who are, by definition, generals. So the Jedi not being generals is a recent thing that only happened because of the Ruusan reformation which you hate and blame for their downfall so like, pick a lane dude. and 2) there is an army of essentially child soldiers because accelerated aging (I think Cody is like 12 and the CC batch was one of the earliest so at max battle of Geonosis they're like 12) that are CONVINCED they're made for you to lead them in battle and the senate agrees! The first battle of Geonosis started as a rescue mission and then got really messy but the GAR isn't officially a thing until AFTER that. The Jedi kind of just stumble into being generals because what was the other option? Natborn officers cannonically treat the clones like SHIT (yes Yularen is pretty okay but also Tarkin exists so womp womp) and either way the Jedi were going to have to abandon part of their beliefs.

Either they abandon their role as impartial peacekeepers to take charge and CARE of these 3 million innocents that are, again, 12 AT THE OLDEST who have no rights and are not legally recognized as sentient beings so without the Jedi who care about them and recognize their personhood who knows what will happen to them (and I mean Jedi IN GENERAL yes I know about Pong Krell but again, Yularen vs Tarkin and everyone else who went on to become part of the empire there are exceptions in every society good or bad), or they say this is fucked up and against our morals and our code so we're not going to participate, there by losing their funding, endangering the Courscant temple which houses primarily their elderly and children and is right next to the senate who now have an army, and abandons 3 million innocent lives because they put principles over people. It's a lose-lose situation because it's DESIGNED TO BE. They were fucked from the start and at the point of the clone wars it was too late, the battle had been decided and there was no way out. It's a shitty situation sure but that's not the fault of the council during the clone wars.

Does that council make stupid ass decisions? Yes, they are flawed, and additional context they are being poisoned by the dark side and have been since they were children (because all Jedi except Anakin come to the temple as children, like under 5 or 6 usually I think). That is like licking increasing amounts of lead paint for literally your entire life or inhaling increasing amounts of asbestos and then trying to make good decisions with severe lead poisoning. None of that is going to end well. And before you ask why didn't they notice, again, frog analogy. Alternatively, if you've always thought a certain way or been able to do a certain thing, you don't realize not everyone can do it or not everyone thinks that way until someone TELLS YOU it's not normal.

A lot of people with hypermobile Ehlers Danlos think that everyone can dislocate joints or bend their elbows backwards or whatever because it runs in families so there's a good chance family members could do it too and it was just treated as normal. Or all the moms who say their daughters can't have autism while dad is sitting over there with his WWII memorabilia collection and won't watch a movie unless it's about WWII and that is the only subject he will ever talk about at parties but ofc it's not autism because he was never diagnosed and because he was never diagnosed the daughter can't have it. If something is normal for you and everyone around you you don't realize that might not be normal for the rest of the population unless you are presented with evidence of the contrary. You don't know what you don't know.

In the case of the Jedi, they probably just choked it up to being force sensitive while the rest of the world is not and moved on with their lives because the whole galaxy has slowly been getting darker and darker. Unless they could time travel back to like just after the Ruusan reformation and compare they would have nothing to compare it to and no way to know what they were experiencing was not normal. Like yes during clone wars they acknowledge that the galaxy has gotten darker but they were starting at a really high level of baseline darkness and had no idea. And before you're like "well Yoda would know because he was alive back then" Yoda was a child. I can't remember what I had for breakfast 3 days ago much less my 4th birthday party. You think he would be able to accurately recall passive information like what the galaxy FELT like 500 years ago?

During that whole council scene the council has been inundated with darkness and Anakin has more so it's like a bunch of people with a crap ton of lead poisoning yelling at each other in a high stress situation, OFC it was a shit show.

Finally, the whole "Qui Gon Jinn is what the Jedi should have been" listen if this man has no haters I am dead. Qui Gon Jinn is NOT what the Jedi should have been, he is a deeply traumatized and annoying loose cannon, you want a wandering jedi like Master Fay or Jon Antilles. These star wars bros think that the "perfect" or "ideal" Jedi is one that is not beholden to any governmental body but just follows the will of the force and provides help where needed. That is, by definition, a wandering Jedi and does not work in the context of a larger society. Qui Gon Jinn is not that. Qui Gon Jinn takes missions from the Jedi council, does the missions, and follows what HE deems the "will of the force" to usually leave a bigger mess than when he arrived. The problem with exhalting Qui Gon is that he then becomes the arbiter of what is and is not the will of the force without leaving room for dissenting opinions from others who can also hear it. Putting the council aside, Obi Wan at several points during Episode 1 is like "hey maybe lets not" and Qui Gon is like "will of the force" and does it anyway. Even though Obi Wan is a padawan he is at the level of a knight, as evidenced by his knighting at the end of the movie, and thus can hear and interpret the force at the level of a Knight. You can argue the whole knight vs master thing but that really is just semantics. The point is that Qui Gon actively ignores the council of his fellow jedi because he thinks that he knows best and won't hear otherwise.

Think about the plot of Episode 1. They take the Naboo mission, it goes sideways (not their fault) so they escape with the queen. They end up on tatooine (bad idea to bring royalty of any planet there considering she's a giant target and there are definitely other planets they could have gone to but lets just believe for right now they couldn't because of hyperspace lanes or whatever) and he ends up running into Anakin. He then bets Anakin's life in a podrace, brings him back to the temple, and then brings him to the siege of Naboo, which is an active warzone.

He leaves Anakin's mother there, doesn't offer to free her, and never brings it up to anyone either on the council or of his friends in the senate (he is canonically friends with Vallorum) that "hey by the way this kid's mother is still enslaved". He also tears through tatooine even though Quinlan Vos (jedi shadow) is canonically there and he could have completely ruined whatever operation he was trying to do. We know that padme knows about Anakin's whole podrace thing but also she was queen of a planet under siege at 14 so I give her a little bit of a pass, she had bigger fish to fry. We have no idea how much Obi Wan knows or when he learns it. I don't remember the exact dialouge that happens in Episode 2 but I think that's the first he hears of Anakin's mother so if Qui Gon didn't tell him, and Anakin didn't tell him, it's quite possible Obi Wan had literally no idea Anakin's mom was still enslaved or that that was still weighing on him, which is another problem entirely.

He then brings the kid in front of the council who is like "no this kid's too old" which is admittedly kind of stupid but whatever they have their rules for a reason and it's not like the the Courscant Jedi are the only force sect in the galaxy. And so Qui Gon is like bet I'll train him and the council's like your padawan is literally standing right there and Qui Gon is like okay so Knight him and give me this kid. Now, granted, Obi Wan is a really old padawan that probably should have been knighted already but this isn't something you should just spring on a person. So the council says no, which makes sense because Knighting is a big deal and not a spur of the moment thing, and is like "your child your problem" which again, isn't great, but given the context that Qui Gon is near constantly bringing stray animals, plants, etc home to the temple and often times ends up dumping them on his padawan (legends canon but still) it kind of makes sense. Even without legends canon Qui Gon brought a kid he knew was to old and was like "this is the chosen one!" which, wild statement, and then was like "hmm yes I will train him even though I have a padawan already" the Jedi council's response of like "goddamnit just deal with this problem you have knowingly created" makes sense even if I don't 100% agree with it. (not with the not taking him, I agree he's too old and he should have been trained but the jedi way does not mesh with his life experiences or personality but the council should have made sure he went to like alderaan or smth to be resettled as a freed slave instead of leaving him to Qui Gon "loose cannon" Jinn)

He then puts him in the care of Padme and her handmaidens (right decision) and then they bring him into an active warzone (WRONG DECISION). He then asks his padawan (not a knight yet) with his dying breath to train this random child who has already been rejected for entry by the council, putting his PADAWAN (NOT A KNIGHT YET) in an impossible situation where he has to 1) get himself knighted without a master and then 2) immediately turn around and defy the council by taking in and training this random child. And no, Obi Wan did not know he would be knighted after defeating Maul b/c battlefield knightings fell out out fashion with the, say it with me, Ruusan reformation. He probably thought he would take his trials, which there was a chance he would fail however unlikely, and then somehow take Anakin on as a Padawan learner? Don't ask me the logistics of that I don't think anyone involved thought that through.

Qui Gon Jinn, even without legends cannon which is a shit show unto itself (Melida/Daan is my roman empire istg) is an incredibly reckless person who has no regard for the consequences of his actions. He acts on impulse and calls it the "will of the force" to justify it. And will of the force it may be at times but we only celebrate him because he happened to be right about a lot of it. From a non-audience perspective he just got incredibly lucky/was in the right place at the right time which may have been the will of the force but he is not the only one who is moved by the force, he is just the agent the force chose for this specific task. And even still his actions have far-reaching consequences for the people around him. Qui Gon Jinn acts like he alone is the sole agent of the force when he canonically is not and because of that he causes as many problems as he solves, resulting in near-misses that cost many lives including his own. Qui Gon Jinn is not your messiah or your savior, he is not your herald, he is a deeply flawed individual who happened to be listening at the right place at the right time and therefore was the right person to set off a necessary sequence of event.

Also, the people that truly believe Qui Gon would have gone with Anakin to tatooine and taken his visions seriously? Qui Gon "here and now" Jinn???????? Mans was so AGGRESSIVELY connected to the living force it's not even funny. He would have brushed it off faster than Obi Wan! And Obi Wan did ask about it briefly, if I remember correctly, but Anakin was kind of waffling/unsure of the dreams importance and so he offered comfort and the standard "always in motion the future is" which is the advise that was offered to him near constantly growing up by Yoda and Yoda's grandpadawan who? Oh, yeah, Qui Gon Jinn. Also gentle reminder we still don't know if those were dreams sent by the force to warn anakin of potential danger to his mother or if they were dreams sent by sidious of a situation he created to push anakin further to the dark side (if we do I don't remember). Given that they happen AGAIN with Padme's death and sidious is like "I alone can give you the power to save her" I'm inclined to believe the mom dreams were him too.

Honestly Qui Gon Jinn and Satine Kryze my number 1 OPs with Padme Amidala and Anakin Skywalker a close second but that's a rant for another post.