#unhealthy enfj

[despairots]

#𝐒𝐇𝐎𝐑𝐓 𝐃𝐑𝐀𝐁𝐁𝐋𝐄: ANGST

「 satoru gojo x gender neutral! reader 」

GENRE: angst and fluff im feeling evil 2day

CONTENT WARNING: depression, gojo being an unhealthy entp and r! being an unhealthy enfj, sum miscommunication, not sure if this has a happy ending, pstd, issues 😓, established relationship, toxic relationship but its bc theyre both unhealthy and theyre trying to fix it (its not working)

AUTHORS NOTE: i need to see more angst posts of this man cuz im feeling devious 🤤

gojo satoru is insensitive. it shows and it’s true. he’s too egotistical, too stupid, too cocky, and even though he can see through people with his six eyes, his growing ego blinds his eye sight.

some may say it’s just him being him but he’s arrogant and extremely self absorbed, it’s unhealthy. this relationship is unhealthy, you’re both unhealthy.

they both can tear people to shreds with their sarcasm, regardless of the fact that it’s play fighting, some words sting most of the times.

the relationship shouldn’t have lasted this long, you were shocked by how long it’s been since everything started.

you two should’ve broken up a long time ago but the “love” you held for eachother were too strong that parting ways could easily lead eachother back to their beds.

when you sense an argument, the both of you turn into hypocrites. you’re emotionally manipulative and gojo likes rationalizing everything, even your bad habits.

despite how lovely you two actually are, no one’s aware that you both are horrible people, especially to eachother.

you two are the calm before the storm, a good duo to hang out with, terrifying to go against.

miscommunication happens. it’s been like that for while, apologies always happen the next day. they say “they’ll never do it again” but it happens almost every 2 months.

relationship’s have their ups and downs. every time you try to talk it out with gojo, the two of you get argumentative and break eachother down. no matter how hard you two try to work it out, it never works and goes back to being unhealthy.

gojo satoru isn’t a good boyfriend.

neither are you.

[micahzdort]

theres just something about "humanity will be saved" hero x "humanity will be saved" villain. Like. The same idea but very very different executions. These kinds of ships are always SO complex 😭😭

[everningdearth]

My take on the MBTI from the perspective of an ENTJ

1. ENTP: Smart, fun people; easy to get along with.

2. INTP: I want a piece of your mind.

3. INTJ: Cool and mysterious, but the males are annoying

4. ENTJ: Hyperfocused on success to the point that it's unhealthy

5. ENFJ: The chronic need to be the center of attention is excusable because y'all have a good heart

6. ENFP: Y'all put too much effort into acting like you don't care if you're liked by everyone for being "quirky", but you do.

7. INFP: Pathetic; really need to stop letting people walk all over themselves

8. INFJ: Sage wisdom, kind heart

9. ISFJ: Lowkey boring ngl

10. ISFP: You make sure to stand out in your own ways

11. ESFP: Annoying, self-indulgent, the lack of awareness is ghastly. Often wonder what it is like to be in your head because you seem to have no self-critique whatsoever.

12. ESFJ: Kind-hearted, too kind in fact, because nobody thinks of you when the day ends.

13. ESTJ: Y'all are just annoying

14. ESTP: Charming, very, very charming.

15. ISTP: Coolest people I know

16. ISTJ: Boring; more like tiring

[loveontherocks]

Original unhealthy ENFJ 2w3

[rainytypology]

A view of each MBTI type by an INTJ:

Saw a few of these lately so why not? Lol

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INTJ: My type and the best type obviously. Kidding. Not really. Healthy/mature ones are interesting and helpful, nice and easy to talk to. I've noticed immature ones try a little too hard to seem edgy and cool to fit into the "cold" INTJ stereotype when that's not a flex at all. I think a lot of us are impatient and stubborn too.

ENTJ: Often driven and motivated individuals who put in a lot of effort into what they do. I admire their hardworking nature. I've unfortunately come across a very unhealthy one before who was quite possessive and narcissistic. I did not have to deal with them personally, but a few of my friends did and their horror stories of that ENTJ will probably be stuck with me forever.

INTP: Their minds are...unique. I wonder what goes on in there. Such weird yet interesting individuals. Sometimes a bit rude, unintentional or not. My younger sister is one and I have to resist the urge to fight with her a lot lmao, but maybe that's just us being siblings.

ENTP: Love them. ENxPs in general 🤌🤌. I've never come across a boring ENTP. Often so chaotic. Never fail to make me laugh. I can have the funnest conversations with them. So witty.

INFJ: One of my best friends is one and it's kinda funny how similar yet different we both are. Ni dom things I guess. Other INFJs I've observed seem to have a lot of patience and kindness. Genuinely have a good heart and want the best for others.

ENFJ: I've only met two personally. Can be funny and witty, really approachable people. Both are very loyal and care a lot about their families, they carry a lot of responsibilities for others. Do not like to show their struggles, will probably mention it briefly before changing the subject.

INFP: Probably my least favorite type due to having bad experiences with them. Unhealthy ones can be so whiney and pathetic. Always want to cry and complain but never actually do anything about it. Can burst emotionally without warning. They can be so exhausting to deal with. I'm not gonna automatically hate you if you're an INFP though, that's just stupid lol, but I will be wary. I only have one INFP friend for now and likely because she's a lot older than me, she's much calmer and more considerate compared to the previous INFPs I've encountered.

ENFP: Some weirdos fr but I love it. Always so talkative and excited. Why are you guys lowkey kinda sad though 😭

ISTJ: I haven't come across any irl yet, but a few of my favorite fictional characters are ISTJs. One of my fav kpop idols as well. Not really sure where the boring stereotype comes from as I think ISTJs are quite nice.

ESTJ: I don't think I've met any yet and have typed a few idols as an ESTJ. I know they get a bad rep, but I honestly just think it stems from ESTJ's tendency to be direct, no bs, which can be intimidating/overwhelming for people. They can be really weird and silly only if they're comfortable.

ISFJ: I don't know any ISFJs irl, but seeing ISFJ idols/celebrities, they're just usually nice and kind people. Quiet but do enjoy being with others.

ESFJ: Honestly think my other best friend may be one 🤔 I do think she has a high Fe for sure. They seem to care the most about their presentation and other's opinions of them.

ISTP: I've only met one and they were okay. Pretty chill and had immense "idgaf" energy. But that attitude was also what made them a bit unlikeable as it extended to having a disregard for feelings and morals. Nobody's perfect, but I don't think it's that difficult to have common human decency. I do like a few ISTP characters and celebrities though.

ESTP: One of my older siblings is one and we get along fine. She has a good eye for aesthetics. Her and other ESTPs I've seen don't really seem to be super serious people, they're just trying their best to enjoy life. Adventurous and open minded. Can't seem to stay still.

ISFP: Have only met a few irl and I've also typed several kpop idols as one. From what I've seen, they are a lot calmer compared to INFPs. They're quite passionate but more realistic individuals though, always going for what they want (likely due to aux Se). Also quite blunt lol but it does not top IxTP's honesty.

ESFP: Have not met any irl yet, but from observing an ESFP I follow and ESFP celebrities, I like their straightforwardness. Passionate and expressive. Funny.

[kharmii]

Kharmii Take: Meta-Human Liberation Army

Since 80% of active content creators into the Meta Liberation Army have blocked me by now, I'm free to throw out my takes that are contrary to popular fanon. Why not? It not like any of the others own these characters just because they've been into them longer.

This will get explicit so don't read if you are under 18.

First thing, the MLA people are terrible human beings. No, they aren't the 'good villains'. No, they aren't human rights activists who really care about each and every member of their secret army. If you believe they are then congratulations. You fell for the propaganda put out by the unhealthy xNFx mtbis among them.

That's not to say they aren't nuanced. Fans are allowed to like them and see good in them....it's just they are mostly irredeemable bastards. Not only are they terrible people, but they hit the ground running the moment they are introduced. There's ReDestro with Giran tied up in a chair with all the fingers cut off his smoking hand. Meanwhile, Skeptic uses his puppets to torture Twice both physically and emotionally. Curious uses Landmine to blow up random objects in the street, some of which happen to be living breathing people. Geten rolls a glacier over random citizens along with the Twice army. Even Trumpet who isn't seen torturing anybody with his own two hands still coldly watches people die around him and uses emotional manipulation against Spinner.

Bad Take 1: ReDestro saw the burdens of his bloodline as a prison. He was relieved when Shigaraki defeated him and took over.

WUT. That was the worst day of his life! -The worst day for all of them! They probably had to drug themselves to sleep at night after that.

There they were trying to put on a fun PR skit for the shits and giggles, but then it goes horribly wrong. Not only does ReDestro lose his legs, but thousands of people die when Shigaraki disintegrates several city blocks. Suddenly, they all go from being respectable members of society to criminals overnight. They probably all had such good gigs with Detnerat-Feel Good Inc-Hearts and Minds-Shoowaysha Publishing that they never planned for the MLA to come out of the shadows, or at least if it did, it would be baby steps. Between Trumpet and Curious, they would have tried to gain ground using media and legislation to make them relevant. After the LoV debacle, they were forced to come out of the shadows and fight a war. Not ideal.

Bad Take 2: ReDestro was a bootlicker who was absolutely star struck over Shigaraki being their new leader.

Not really. I see ReDestro as being a toxic ENFJ/P mtbi personality type. That means he's good at making anybody think he's their friend. He comes across warm and likeable, but in actuality, he's a phony and convincing liar. It's obvious all the MLA people are uncomfortable around Shig, and even ReD is bad at hiding it at one point. It's possible they know about All For One's influence and the hidden mechanism working behind the League of Villains. If anything about Shig intimidates them, it would def be that. Otherwise, they might all feel sorry for him if they knew what he went through, but in no way would they take him seriously as a leader.

That would make the other LoV members heading a regiment a clown show. The original MLA people are all professionals with plenty of life experience, except for Geten. Even Geten is a well-trained soldier from the time he was a child, and therefore he'd be more valuable than a rag tag bunch of good-for-nothings.

Quirk Awakenings:

AFAIK, only Geten and ReD had profound quirk awakenings due to extreme trauma and stress during training. I head canon that the others never went through enough hardship to obtain their own awakenings. Here's a question for the readers....what do you think they'd be? Would Curious be able to explode stuff through pure telekinesis? Would Skep be able to make his puppets speak? Would Trumpet be able to let out a primal scream and get anyone in earshot pumped? -Or something better? Those takes are rather boring and spur-of-the-moment. Help me out.

Character Analyses:

ReDestro: Like I said, he's a toxic ENFJ/P. With those types, it's often unclear if they actually believe their own bullshit, or if they are just really really good at making you think they believe their bullshit. Either way, their enthusiasm rubs off on people, and that allows them to emotionally manipulate people better. Sure, ReD cried after he murdered the mouse assistant, but his warped radical ideology let him think that was the correct and necessary step to make, as difficult as it was.

Said on another post that if it was true he welcomed Shig as a leader so he could shirk his own duties, then he'd have a change of heart later. Maybe one night he'd have a dream where his great great (x however many) great grandfather Chikara Yotsubashi aka "Destro" would appear before him and tell him, "You must retake your position as Grand Commander of the MLA. You must fix this huge fuck up the League of Villains turned it into. It has to be your capable hands that makes it right.."

ReD would agree wholeheartedly. He'd enthusiastically promise his ancestor that, yes, he'd fix it. -But then he'd wake up and be like, "Awww....DAMMIT!" because he'd be drugged up and restrained in prison to prevent 'stress' from activating.

Even though I head canon Trumpet as being a straight guy on his third marriage with eight kids, I still imagine lots of sexual tension between ReD and Trumpet. They are each other's emotional support, and I imagine them doing all the same cute stuff together that I've posted the Subway Bosses doing. IE: Falling asleep together on the train, or like one will drape a jacket over the other if he falls asleep at his desk.

They've messed around a bunch but have never had full on penetrative sex. The hangup is all Trumpet due to a past trauma. One time, ReD was training with Geten at like 2% stress. He made a gesture just as Trumpet walked by accidentally striking him and breaking a few ribs. Now ReD can tell Trumpet will always be afraid to be touched by him for fear it will lead to him being skewered by his stress dick at whatever percent by accident.

Geten: I'm not going to write about him much because I already wrote several posts and a whole-ass novella analyzing his personality. Let's just say he's like a son to ReD. He gets along really well with Skeptic but is colder to Trumpet and Curious. ReD totally purchased him as a child like an expensive pure-bred puppy. I'm 100% behind that fanon theory because it's too weird.

Skeptic: I admit it. I think Skeptic is a creepy incel. He's such an incel he failed No Nut November on the first day at exactly midnight. That's his yearly tradition. Srsly though, why haven't more people done fan fiction exploring the creepier side of Skep? He started out strong in the anime and then..... *thumbs down* *fart noises*

You'd think more people would have done fan fics about "Skeptic's creepy rape puppets" or something equally as entertaining. I thought my take was decent in my AO3 fic 'Trumpet's Trauma' where Skep and Shig worked together to torment Trumpet into attempting suicide. One would think that would be the standard MOD writing Skep. I made sure to make Skep's involvement in my writing vague so that he wouldn't be on the wrong side of ReD. As far as the evidence stands, there was no proof of Skeps involvement. It appeared to be all Shig's doing.

Since Skep has the surveillance shtick, I can imagine ReD asking for the link to Trumpet's shower cam. He's the pretty one they both like to creep on.

Curious: Manipulative bitch with a fun mischievous side. Trumpet tried to zero in on her straight away, but she let him down hard. She knows what he's about and sees right through him. Skeptic also simps for her, but she keeps him at arm's length. They actually get along well and are 'work spouses'.

I imagine at least once, Trumpet will be lecturing them about something, and Curious would bust out with, "This is why nobody likes you!"

Trumpet's face would fall because he's the type who wants and needs everybody to like him. Skep would smirk. Geten would be confused. After all, ReD likes him. ReD seems to like him a lot. After all, he often buries his face in Trumpets neck to take a long sniff Joe Biden style. Later, Geten would ask ReD about it, and the GC would reply that sometimes people have bad days and get to be assholes with each other.

After Curious's death, Skep made an online shrine to her that he updates about once a month after the initial photo dump. ReD looks in on it every so often, but not too often. It always makes him cry, and he's trying to stay upbeat. After Shig's death, Skep made an online shrine to him called, "The Good Things Shig Did" where he posts pictures of Shig holding puppies or hanging out with his friends. In case you're wondering how Skep managed it, I head canon he escaped in Season 7 by making a puppet of himself carrying out his equipment and then becoming detained. That could possibly be where he'd achieve a quirk awakening allowing his puppets to talk.

Trumpet: The boring sensible guy that always looks worried in fan art....and well he should. He'd been promised nothing but good times joining a fascist cult. Sheesh though...artists shouldn't draw him looking like a hand-wringing housewife or beleagued soccer dad. He's supposed to be a greaseball politician. Someone did a post recently I didn't respond to, but they head canoned the following:

I already made a beautiful wife and young children for Trumpet. The wife's name is Shigemi Hanabata (花畑 茂美), also known as Preach (せっきょう/Sekkyō). She is a member like him and has a useful quirk called Propaganda (宣伝/Senden), an emitter type that causes people to believe everything the user says as long as they either trust or find them attractive. Their children have mixed variations of Incite and Propaganda, one of them being called Excite.

That would be the arranged marriage his family made with his first wife. He's a sensible guy, and he would have realized that combination of quirks would create an advantageous quirk marriage resulting in powerful offspring. Unfortunately, Trumpet has a wandering eye, and that would destroy his first and second marriage.

His third wife would end up being Uwabami, the tall hot blonde model with snakes in her hair. It's unclear how the combination of 'incite' and 'snakes in hair' would be an advantageous quirk marriage, but Trumpet's diiiiick, erm, gut instincts told him to keep an open mind.

It doesn't behoove a politician to be such a sleezebag, but it's not like Trumpet's political party is one of the mainstream parties. He's also an unhealthy solid ENFJ mbti. Like any modern politician irl, he uses emotional blackmail to guilt the most gullible of suckers into supporting the cause of liberation. He'll do shit like convince all the heteromorphs he's their advocate, but then when he's in private with those closest to him, he'll admit he doesn't give a sweaty donkey's balls about heteromorph rights; he's just using them to gain money and power. That's the mindset he'd have watching Shig use decay on a bunch of them after he just used 'incite'.

Trumpet would be an insufferable two-face, like he'd belittle Spinner when they're on opposing sides, but then he'd pull the advocate shite the moment the PLA is formed.

[literatureloverx]

You’re always talking about how much you like INTJs. Would you consider any other MBTI type as a potential partner or is it just INTJs for you? And why?

Of course, I could consider other MBTI types as potential romantic partners besides INTJs.♥️

My preference would probably be something like this:

INTJs > ISTJs > ENTJs > ESTJs > ENTPs > INTPs > ISTPs > ENFJs.

When it comes to friendships, I’m quite flexible.

However, I’ve found that the least compatible types for me, so far, have been (in no particular order):

ESFPs, ESTPs, and some unhealthy ISFPs and unhealthy INFPs. I never met healthy ISFPs but healthy INFPs are absolutely adorable to me (like my 🧛🏻‍♀️🫀-anon, for example).

I also really enjoy having ENFJs and ESFJs as friends. My two closest friends are an ESFJ and an ENFP. I sometimes struggle to keep up with the dominant Ne of ENFPs (or ENTPs), so I try to take a step back from time to time, but they always seem to become quite obsessed with me, so it’s not really possible. (Weird, weird.)

I hope this clarifies everything!♥️ Have a delightful day/night!♥️

[elaho]

An ENFJ 9w1, redrawn in my own style from a previous sketch

"Mama's Boy" by Hazlett ---------------------------------------------

Story Time [continued from my first INFP 6w5 post] Given how much I had suffered at the hands of [unhealthy] Fe for the majority of my life, I began to despair that Fi could never be safe in the presence of Fe [or high Fe users] at all.

That was until an eye-opening experience back in early January:

It was the holidays and I didn't have many plans or activities for the start of 2024, I decided to snuggle up and start watching one of my "watch later" shows, "Komi Can't Communicate".

"Komi Can't Communicate" is a slice-of-life story about a young INFJ 6w5 girl who struggles to speak and interact in social situations, despite desperately wanting to connect with others.

She is often misjudged as being aloof, distant, judgemental, depressing, or disinterested despite her best efforts -- leading her to feel isolated, lonely, and misunderstood.

That is until she meets an ENFJ 9w1 boy who can see past her cold and intimidating exterior to view the wonderful, vibrant person she truly is - becoming her first friend and helping her achieve her goals of making 100 friends - all by using his Fe.

And I cried.

I never thought an anime could so clearly help me see what Fe, REAL Fe, looked like and how it could be used to "see" and help other people like that; how true Fe wants others to be authentic and outwardly express their innermost feelings and desires without suppressing or minimizing them, or to appeal to what they or others are feeling in those moments either.

Seeing this dynamic "awakened" something deep in my heart, and maybe for the first time, made me want a dynamic like this for myself in my own life.

So to all the Fe doms out there who can and want to see me and others for who we really are - and all our innermost complexities and depth of feeling- and embrace us for it:

I love you

[mr-entj]

Welcome back Mr. ENTJ. :) ENFJ here with a quest if you don't mind. I hear a lot that "Fe is fake" which I understand where that perspective comes from. If that is a common downside to having Fe (being fake or inauthentic), what would be a common downside to having Fi which seems to be all about authenticity? Thank you for considering my question.

Stubborn and uncompromising. You see it the most in unhealthy FPs (INFP, ISFP, ENFP, ESFP) who have the 'me against the world' / 'I'm an outsider' mentality. The world will not change to accommodate them and they won't change to accommodate the world so it's a stalemate. Hence, uncompromising.

Also, Fe isn't "fake," but unhealthy FJs (ENFJ, ESFJ, INFJ, ISFJ) who are usually enneagram 2s or 9s tend to prioritize the group over the individual, people-please, and avoid conflict. This can lead them to suppress their own wants/needs and mirror other people's opinions for the sake of group harmony. Dealing with these FJs can feel like chewing gum with the wrapper still on-- I can taste a bit of your personality, but it's heavily filtered, dulled, and muted behind a wall of social niceties. Show me who you are when you're alone.

[personality-corner]

Encanto MBTI

Mirabel - ENFJ

Mirabel’s Fe contributes to nearly every decision she makes, and also manages to contribute to her main conflict. She wants nothing more than to fit in and be accepted by her family, and her most popular catchphrase is “make my family proud.” When her family is in danger, she does everything to find out the truth of why the cracks are appearing in the wall, by using her Ni to narrow the ideas down.

Isabela - ESFJ

Isabela, similarly to Mirabel, wants nothing more than to maintain the love and acceptance of her family. She does so by practicing how she acts in front of people, and growing pretty flowers, because that is what she is familiar with (Si). However, when she starts to realize her trauma, we see her lower functions (Ne & Ti) begins to really show.

Luisa - INFP

Unlike her two Fe dom sisters, Luisa’s morals come more from within than from the family. Her fears and struggles come from the fact that she wants to protect her family and her home, because she’s the “strong one”, putting her in an Fi-Si loop, where she constantly ignores her Ne. However, as we see in her song, Luisa actually loves escaping into her fantasy world.

Bruno - ISFJ

Despite his power being foresight, the past seems to be a prime motivator for Bruno. His reasoning for wanting to “leave” is to protect his niece, who from his own experience, he knew would have a horrible life if everyone knew the prophecy. His connection to his family, and his motivation to never truly leave is also motivated by his Si and Fe.

Abuela Alma - ESTJ

While she loves her family, Alma tends to lead based on objective logic first and foremost, pushing her emotions (Fi) to the side, until she realizes what she is doing is hurting people. Because her sadness and emotions do seep through with a lot of her actions, and her focus on her past (Si) somewhat contributes to this as well, but overall, she is shown to be an unhealthy ESTJ, until she is able to do a little introspection.

Dolores - ISFP

We don’t see much from Dolores throughout the film, but when we do, she is very silent and reserved. She feels things deeply, yet keeps these emotions to herself unless she feels like everyone absolutely has to know something. She is very in tune to the world around her, both power wise and personality wise. She prefers to know what’s going on, and relies heavily on her world around her and instinct to make decisions.

[mbti-notes]

Anon wrote: Hi, i had a question regarding my 19yo friend. She was typed as an INFP then ENFJ on 16p, although i had doubts because i don’t trust that website, i believe she’s an ENFJ with Fe issues and a undeveloped Ni.

She is strongly affected by what happens in the « external » world, like for exemple today someone was pushed on the railway when a train was coming and everyone was shocked, which is completely normal. But she had a huge meltdown, she bursted in tears when she started to think about how everyone must have felt, how the relatives of the victim will feel, how the victim himself will feel if he survives, and was heavily overwhelmed. As an ENFJ myself i thought the same, and i felt uneasy, but i was able to distance myself from the whole situation. She on the other hand, started to feel really sick and say things like « life isn’t worth living in a world where things like this happen » like very dark thoughts and a long rant about the world in general, about a massive fear of death due to previous experiences, about how she felt out of touch with reality.

Generally speaking, she has a huge problem with the concept of reality. She told me that she just couldn’t accept the fact that things were as they are although she was aware of it, that she felt as such she had two personalities : one who was really pessimistic and in tune with reality and another who was trapped in a bubble where she dismissed all of it. She couldn’t accept that we lived in a world were such atrocious stuffs were happening everywhere, and has an extreme ideal of saving the whole world on her own.

I told her that although she was aware of it she seemed to not accept it, and that it may be a huge part of the problem. I also told her that that ideal was just out of reach, and listed the reasons, and she told me that although she knew she just felt like she just had to try harder.

I also noticed that she could be really judgmental with people, while she was explaining to me that she was frustrated that they weren’t aware of the state of the world and couldn’t « use their brain properly » that they were « dumb ». She seems to hold unreasonable standards of people in general, a recent exemple is her last relationship where she basically made a contract with her ex, listing everything she was expecting from him and that he had to sign, and when he stopped to fulfill those conditions she dumped him. She only seeks him when she needs attention and when me and a friend explained to her that it was unhealthy because of the unreasonable standards and the fact that she wanted to him to constantly support her emotionally, but she just didn’t get what was wrong even if she recognized that she shouldn’t engage in a relationship in that state of mind.

So i wanted to know what could explain it in her stacks and how to help her to be more aware of it ? As i said i think acceptance plays a huge role, and that it could be related to an underdeveloped Ni (also with the fact that she seems too involved with the external world and not enough with her inner world + that she seems to judge people solely on external factors). She also showed signs of loops and grips (that perhaps could explain her « two personalities » and extreme high and lows in general).

I hope i provided enough infos, thanks for reading allat !

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I'm not entirely clear what you're asking. If this is a question about type assessment, all requests must follow the submission instructions on the contact page, otherwise, I can't do a proper analysis. The info you've provided isn't as relevant to type as you believe it is.

What you're mainly describing is emotional immaturity, which is a separate issue from type, and an issue that anyone of any type can suffer. And judgmentalness is a common symptom of emotional immaturity. Sure, different types may express emotional immaturity somewhat differently depending on the functions involved. However, if all you see/know about them is their emotional immaturity, I guarantee that you won't have enough info to do an accurate assessment. A lot of people mistype themselves because they equate emotional immaturity to this or that function, when the two need to be examined separately.

You've made a few points in an effort to convince me of ENFJ. My way of doing type assessment aims for certainty, I don't like to guess. I thoroughly argue for and against all 16 types in order to determine the right answer. I won't draw a conclusion unless I'm quite confident. The points you've presented aren't enough to arrive at confidence, let alone certainty, for example:

(1) "Not being able to accept reality" is usually a good indicator of N. But beware that this has to be a long-term recurring pattern, not just a one-off situational thing. Experiencing extreme circumstances or repeatedly encountering negative events can be difficult for anyone of any type to accept. There needs to be other evidence in support of N, especially the N method of processing info (i.e. the cognitive component).

(2) Being too involved with the external world to the detriment of one's inner world is a weak argument by itself because it's easy to rebut with common exceptions to the rule. For example, some introverts (such as ISFP or INFJ involved in politics) can care very deeply about what's going on in the external world, and anxiety about negative events can certainly make them appear as though they are too involved. Another example rebuttal: one could argue that extraverts should have a better time accepting/adapting to the external world, so the fact that she can't might indicate she's not E. I'm not saying she's E or I; I'm saying that this point alone isn't sufficient for being certain. You'll need much more evidence of E/I than this.

(3) Yes, it's generally true that a person suffering from chronic loop and grip problems can appear to have "two personalities". She mentioned "delusional" versus "pessimistic", but this isn't helpful for type assessment. Neither of these is healthy, so on what basis can we determine the functional axes? The "two personalities" should actually denote the healthy vs unhealthy sides of the personality. For the dominant and auxiliary functions, there must be some evidence of normal and healthy function use, which even the most emotionally immature people should still express at times. You haven't provided this info, so nothing more to do on this point.

(4) Perhaps you mean to say that her "worrying" and "savior complex", in part, counts as a healthy expression of Fe because it shows her care for others and society. That may or may not be true, but it doesn't guarantee ENFJ. While a savior complex is most often associated with xNFJ, there are other types who are known to exhibit it as well, e.g., ENFP, ENTP, ESTP, ESTJ, ENTJ, INTJ. You say she feels very deeply about the suffering of others, which indicates a high capacity for emotional empathy, but that isn't necessarily Fe. Some of the most empathetic people I've ever known were ENFP. I'm not saying she is any of these types; I'm saying that there's not enough info provided to rule out all the other types, which is a necessary step in the type assessment process.

Yes, you are right to not trust websites that only use simple tests. If you want to use tests properly, you must recognize and accept their limitations. They can only offer you an approximation at best. As you can see by the arguments I made above, typing people accurately is a complex matter because human psychology is far more complicated than any test can capture. It's also a cause for suspicion when you think she's the same type as you, since all people are prone to projection when evaluating others.

If your question is really about how to help your friend, I'm afraid there's not much I can say. First, you can't really do much to help someone who doesn't believe they need help or doesn't want help. You can't force people to change when they're not ready or willing.

Second, emotionally immature people are highly prone to faulty emotional reasoning. A person who isn't basing their judgments/beliefs on facts and logic isn't going to be responsive to facts and logic. In other words, you can't argue with people's feelings. You can't actually invalidate people's feelings. People feel what they feel and there's no stopping them from feeling.

If your friend were to come to me directly to express that they wanted to become more emotionally mature, that would be a different story. Being able to acknowledge a problem is the important first step for personal growth, but it sounds like she's not there yet. There are plenty of ways to improve one's emotional intelligence, which I've written about before and I've recommended books about it as well. It's a solvable problem, with some self-work.

This doesn't mean there's absolutely nothing you can do. I'm only warning that your help might not be very effective when it isn't wanted. The best thing you can do is continue to be a good friend. Being a good friend involves many things, and one of the most important tasks a friend can take on is to always tell the truth.

Telling the truth is a very tricky matter, in terms of communication. When the way you tell the truth is too blunt or injuring, it can backfire and make people double down on their faulty beliefs. However, if you're able to communicate the truth in an objective, impartial, matter-of-fact, and caring way, people will generally be more receptive. In other words, you can't come across as a threat or having any kind of ulterior motive.

If you are correct about ENFJ and the need for Ni development, then the cognitive ability she needs to develop involves learning how to adjust her perspective. Actually, learning how to reframe one's perspective is generally a good way to deal with many psychological maladies, including anxiety and depression. Her view of things is much too small and simple-minded due to the emotional immaturity. Anything you can do to encourage her to shift her perspective closer to objective truth would be helpful in the long run. (However, this assumes you are in greater possession of the truth than she is.)

Helping stubborn people is difficult. It involves repeatedly seeding helpful ideas to them in subtle ways, until they start to shift. It could take one or two conversations, or it could take years and years of conversations. If you want to keep having those conversations with her, then do so, but you have to manage your expectations. Be patient and don't expect immediate results.

[lazysublimeengineer]

One of the biggest crimes that the fandom has created is.....

Having Kaiser type as ENTP. Ness as ENFJ. Bachira as an ESTP.

LIKE HOW?

Where is the Fe, Ti and Ne?

What is this blasphemy I encountered today?

Look me in the eye and tell me with a straight faced that you've seen them like that in franchise?

Kaiser is obviously an ENTJ with an unhealthy Fi. That single minded goal and philosophical, dark views is his Ni. His shadow functions is blatantly showing under extreme amount of stress and pressure.

I can't see any Fe and Ni towards Ness. His Fi and Ne is shining especially when we were introduced into his backstory. That creativity coupled with strong personal beliefs is shining through his character and he was in the grip of his Te everytime he's under an extreme amount of stress.

Bachira is the poster child of ESFP. Look at that motivation for playing soccer and strong inner sense of belief and tell me he doesn't have a Fi? 🤨

Thank God that Nagi is correctly typed as ISTP. He's an ISTP 9w8. Enough said.

Nanase is debatable. I need to see more of him if there's a Ne in his functions. Safe to say for the meantime: ExFP

[snspice]

⋆ ˚｡⋆୨୧˚ PARK MIKYUNG

　　　　ೃ⁀➷ MIKA is a member of south-korean fictional girl group SUGAR N' SPICE. she made her debut on april 6th, 2019 with the group's debut song ICE CREAM CAKE under ANGELICO ENTERTAINMENT. she was a well known figure in korea before she made her debut in SNS, with her original debut happening back in 2015 as the maknae of DSP MEDIA girl group APRIL. after being debuted for roughly a year, she was sent the survival show PRODUCE 101, where she finished the show ranked 5th and made her debut in the final temporary girl group, IOI, in 2016. after the group disbanded, she went back to her original group but left a few months later in 2017. she made her acting in 2018 and has continued to skyrocket her acting career over the years, even making her hollywood debut in 2023 with BARBIE. she most recently made her debut in idol supergroup STARZIE after finishing 6th on SHOOTING STARS. she is easily considered the most popular member, bringing in the most solo fans due to her previous work in the industry, her internationally popular acting career, her solo career, and her overall popularity within the idol community.

・❥・⠀ exploring the story of being a child star, never having a real childhood, found family, mental illness, unhealthy coping mechanisms, constant pressure to never slip up, unwanted sexualization, and trying to find where you really belong.

　　　　˚ ༘♡ BASICS

ღ BIRTH NAME : 　 park mikyung⠀ [ 박미경 ] ⠀ ღ ENGLISH NAME : 　 isabella jade park⠀ ღ STAGE NAME : 　 mika⠀ [ 미카 ] 

ღ DATE OF BIRTH : 　 march 26th, 2001 ღ ZODIAC SIGN : 　 aries ღ CHINESE ZODIAC SIGN : 　 snake

ღ ETHNICITY : 　 korean ღ NATIONALITY : 　 korean ღ LANGUAGES : 　  korean [ fluent / mother tongue ] .  english [ fluent ] . japanese & thai [ conversational ]

ღ HEIGHT : 　 162 cm  |  5’3   ღ BLOOD TYPE : 　 O+ ღ MBTI : 　 ENFJ-T

ღ FACE CLAIM : 　 yu jimin  [ aespa ] 

　　　　˚ ༘♡ PERSONAL LIFE

ღ BIRTHPLACE : 　 gwanju, south korea  ღ HOMETOWN : 　seoul, south korea

ღ BIRTH FAMILY : 　 park dongseok [ father / 71' ] . oh mihee [ mother / 72' ] . park minseok [ older brothe / 98' ] . park miyoung [ twin sister / 01' ]

　　　　˚ ༘♡ CAREER

ღ PROFESSION : 　 idol . model . actress . producer ღ COMPANY : 　 mydol entertainment  [ 2024 - present ] . stellar entertainment [ 2024 - present ] . angelico entertainment  [ 2017 - 2024 ] . dsp entertainment [ 2013 - 2017 ]

ღ TRAINING PERIOD : 　 two years [ 2013 – 2015 ]

ღ GROUP : 　 sugar n' spice  [ 2019 – present ]. starzie [ 2024 - present ] . ioi [ 2016 - 2017 ] . april [ 2015 - 2017 ] ღ POSITION : 　 main rapper .  lead dancer . vocalist . visual . center . maknae

ღ REPRESENTATIVE DESSERT : 　 cookies ღ REPRESENTATIVE COLOR : 　 lilac [ #DCAAF2 ] ღ REPRESENTATIVE EMOJIS : 　 🍪 / 💜

　　　　˚ ༘♡ SOCIAL MEDIA

ღ PUBLIC INSTAGRAM : 　 @ mikamecrazy + @ isabellajade

ღ PRIVATE INSTAGRAM : 　 @ parkithere

[darkbluekies]

Hey blue! I really enjoy your OC's, precisely Hedwig. I was just curious about her MBTI (if you know what that is). I would probably say that she is an ENFJ or even an ESFJ with an unhealthy Fe-dom! You're the one to choose (I would see Jerry as an ISTP..) and if you aren't familiar with these letters, I'm sorry for bringing up this topic, lol.

Anyway, could I perhaps be the 🇫🇷 anon if it isn't taken? (French flag cause I'm French and all)

Have a good day.

You've come to the wrong person with this question😅 I know absolutely nothing about mbti, I'm not very interested in it, unfortunately!!

But of course you can be 🇫🇷anon, welcome<3

[blueopinions49]

Healthy/Unhealthy ENFJ

1. Minato Uzumaki 

-Overall healthy use of his FeNi always being able to bring others forward and helping them into reaching their potential. His believe in others is what got him to the position of Homage in the first place. Overall his functions are all very balanced.

2.Storm 

-Healthy use of her FeNi always balancing her idealism with practicality being able to make solid and good choices for the team and mutant kind. Depending on the run she might struggle to express her own emotions in favor of focusing on others. 

3.Mike Wheeler 

-Decent use of all of his functions. He sticks to his FeNi most of the time to see what benefits the group more and often relies on his Se if problemas arrive. Usually strategizing in the moment to get the best results. 

4.Howl Jenkins  Pendragon

-Unhealthy use of FeNi; his desire to be free makes constantly but heads with reality. Usually detaching from his reality to look for what satisfy his emotional needs in the moment. Usually using his fe to play off others emotions.

5.Love Quinn

-Probably the best example of an unhealthy ENFJ, her desire to fulfill her ideal vision of what a relationship looks like makes her frustrated when the relationship itself doesn't work. Her FeNi narrows her view of romance in general disposing of others when the rose tinted glasses come off. 

[abcwordsurge]

WttT MBTI Types pt 1

Well, I love the states and I love MBTI, so why not combine my interests? Please, allow me to share with you: my personal headcanons on the states' MBTI types. (Calling it "part 1" is optimistic- I'm only doing the main six in this one, and I want to get around to other states, but we'll see if that ever happens)

And of course, here's the mandatory disclaimer that all MBTI types are equal, and please remember that it doesn't define you (like I know that's literally what it's trying to do, but just... you've got personality traits besides those listed on 16personalities.com, I promise)

Florida: ENTP

Ok, this one took me a bit, because he's such a weird and complicated guy, but I think ENTP fits him best. He's got the chaos factor, obviously, so definitely an ExxP. But he isn't quite open enough about his feelings to be ExFP, and he's a bit too quick witted and clever to be ESxP, so ENTP it is

Gov: ISTJ

He's just barely holding it together, man. He's trying his best and overworking himself and can't stand it when the states act out of his control and all of that is just so ISTJ (also he needs a hug but doesn't know he needs a hug, again, very ISTJ- unhealthy ISTJ but ISTJ nonetheless- someone give this boy a hug please)

California: ENFJ

Most obvious reason is his commitment to social issues, but I also feel like he has that desire to be around people, and a sort of need for external validation, y'know? (Which isn't angsty at all, no siree, no angst material here)

New York: ISTP

Must I even explain? Acting tough + actually thoughtful and sweet but it's hard to tell + intelligent and well informed = ISTP

Texas: ESTP

I hovered between ESTP and ESTJ for a while, because yeah, I can see him being an ESTJ, but I feel like his tendency to do things purely out of spite is very ESTP. Also, that bit where he's trying to shoot down the Chinese balloon or whatever it was ("Table News: Crown of Ice")? Look me in the eyes and tell me that's not an ESTP thing to do

Loui: ISFP

He's just chilling, man. He's enjoying life, taking it easy, hanging out with his bestie, and occasionally falling apart because his emotions are too strong. Love it. He is everything I aspire to be

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk (and if you have any specific states you want me to do this for, let me know in a reblog or my ask box)