#ukraine giving 12 points to italy

[mapsontheweb]

Who did the Televoters give 1st place (12 points) in the Eurovision Song Contest 2023?

by u/Rollo37

Sweden won the competition without a single 1st place from the televoters. (583 points in total)

The world was allowed to vote equally to 1 competing country.

Russia is banned, Belarus is suspended and Bosnia & Herzegovina is sanctioned.

All the purple countries were not participating in 2023.

I had no idea what to do with Kosovo, so it's blue lol

18 countries gave 12 points to Finland. (Finland came 2nd with 526 points in total)

4 countries gave 12 points to Ukraine.

4 countries gave 12 points to Israel.

2 countries gave 12 points to Italy.

2 countries gave 12 points til Moldova.

2 countries gave 12 points to Armenia.

1 country gave 12 points to Norway.

1 country gave 12 points to Croatia.

1 country gave 12 points to Poland.

1 country gave 12 points to Albania.

1 country gave 12 points to Cyprus.

1 country gave 12 points to Slovenia.

[tara-in-our-hearts]

Eurovision final 2024

Croatia was my favorite and I wanted them to win so badly, and it got the most votes from the public. I'm disappointed they came second, but on the other hand I did like Switzerland too and it's pretty cool that they are the first non-binary winner. I didn't expect juries to like a song about gender identity, but maybe I overestimated their conservativeness? Seeing countries like Azerbaijan, Georgia, Albania and Ukraine where LGBTQ people have few rights, give 12 points to Switzerland gives me hope for a better future.

And most importantly, Israel didn't win, which would probably have caused uproar and countries pulling out of the contest. I was scared there for a bit that Israel would win after hearing they won 40% of the people's vote in Italy in the semi final.

This year was such a shitshow and while politics have always been a part of the competition now they overshadowed everything. I really felt for the poor Swedes having to deal with this mess. But Switzerland winning is a good ending and I hope that the contest will be back to normal again eventually. I also hope EBU learned something from their mistakes this year.

Just from my personal, selfish perspective it has been a bit sad that I wasn't able to be very open about watching the competition this year or even talk about it. Usually I do talk about it a lot! Eurovision is the best thing that happens in the spring and I don't think watching means supporting the Israeli government. We were 5 friends who watched it from one unit this year, so I don't think that made a significant difference. We abstained from voting. And I donate to NGO:s who work to save lives in Gaza too, I do care about the horrible things that happen there even if I watch Eurovision. Ceasefire now, please.

[maaarine]

public vote for Israel at Eurovision

who gave either 10 or 12 points to Israel?

the majority of participating countries, 21 out of 37

ie what would be called "western Europe": (west to east) from Portugal/Ireland to Austria/Czechia, and (south to north) from Italy to Germany

who gave either 7 or 8 points to Israel?

Azerbaidjan, Denmark, Georgia, Greece, Iceland, Latvia

who gave either 5 or 6 points to Israel?

Estonia, Malta, Norway, Poland

who gave either 1 or 3 points to Israel?

Armenia, Lithuania, Serbia

who gave 0 point to Israel?

Croatia, Ukraine

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it's interesting that Denmark and Norway and Iceland didn't give their 10/12 points to Israel, but Sweden did

I feel like it wouldn't have happened if Sweden hadn't been the host that had to deal with pro-Palestine protests (which may have created a pro-Israel vote from the Swedish public)

as for the other voting blocks, I'm sure that the take is that Baltic and Balkan countries are deemed more antisemitic, but it's interesting that Albania gave 10 points to Israel, while Serbia and Croatia don't fuck with Israel at all

and Ukraine, was Putin right all along, are they nazis (/s)? I'd rather believe that they don't love imperialist wars

source: eurovision.tv

[ryttu3k]

Semi-final votes and comments, now in finals order! First, the scores I gave them, with a reminder that these can and absolutely do change between semi and final.

10/12: Australia 8/12: Norway, Portugal, Moldova, Finland, Slovenia, Albania, Austria 7/12: Serbia, Sweden, Czechia, Belgium, Lithuania, Poland, Armenia 6/12: Israel, Cyprus 5/12: Croatia 4/12: Switzerland, Estonia

No numerical score for the auto qualifiers.

And, my initial comments!

Austria: Okay, this one is making me grin and is also pretty catchy. 8/12 just for doing something genuinely different!

Portugal: Oh shit this is fun. Energetic torch song in Portuguese with a red dress I'm pretty sure the singer nicked from Conchita Wurst (complementary). I'm into it! 8/12

Switzerland: Oh no, a Heavy Topic Song™. Listen I respect it but is it really Eurovision? 4/12

Poland: I feel like I'm watching an aerobics video from the 90s. Produced in Spain. Which is odd, since they're Polish. On the other hand, I am jiggling my leg! Maybe it's Second Semi Final Syndrome's lower standards? 7/12

Serbia: Staging is really strong this year! Oh we're straight video game now. Wasn't sure at first but it's definitely growing on me! 7/12

France: I'm giving them nul points based solely on being a Mr Bean enjoyer. Okay no it's not bad. Ballady vibes but could be a banger.

Cyprus: Australia's back-up entry! He came 7th in the selection show last year (Voyager came second). …yeah no dull. Oh well. 6/12

Spain: Yeah I'm gonna have to wait to see the whole thing, but looks interesting. Maybe not my thing, but interesting!

Sweden: Loreen is back, too! I do wonder about this, previous winners returning tends not to play out great unless you're Johnny Logan. …It is a bit panini press, yeah XD Yeah honestly I'm not feeling this, definitely not as much as Euphoria, which I goddamn adored. It's still really solid, it's just lacking something? I suspect it'll win XD;; 7/12

Albania: Oh there's the drama. Not in English, rad costumes! 8/12

Italy: Eh, doesn't really do much for me.

Estonia: Nifty a cure for the fact that I've been awake for nearly two hours and it's only 5:20 AM. *faceplants on the keyboard 4/12

Finland: “When your sleeves say Met Gala but your chest says Vicks VaporRub.” The fan favourite! You go dude bust out of that box. I'm not actually 100% sold on it musically, but the presentation is top notch. Oh hey I really dig that last bit, actually! Rainbows! 8/12

Czechia: Oh these visuals slap. Not 100% sold on the song itself but the presentation is really cool. 7/12

Australia: Yeah here we go! Honestly so glad we're closing the show. Very synthwavey vibes but like, synthwave goes rock. And our old friend, the wind machine! And a keytar! Fuck yeah that's a closer! 10/12

Belgium: God this gets points just for not making me fall asleep. The Ballroom vibe is fun as hell too. 7/12

Armenia: Oh god this is so slow. Armenia, it's 5:13 AM, it's too early for a slow song. There we go, picked up! Yeah, aside from the slow start, this works. 7/12

Moldova: Welcome back, Pasha! I did love Lăutar. Oh shit this is fun as hell, really digging the staging and costuming, it's got some fun folky elements but amped up. 8/12

Ukraine: It's kind of giving 90s boy band, alas.

Norway: Oh this is a strong start! Costuming is dramatic, it's got energy, I dig it! Oof, that high note didn't quite hit, though. 8/12

Germany: ‘Blood and Glitter' is a hell of a title. They look like they're gonna be fun as hell!

Lithuania: Slow start, but some big vocals to save it a bit. I'm sorry I'm so tired. 6/12

Israel: It feels listenable but in the most generic way possible? Like, “Okay, start with interesting visuals, put some soaring vocals in, now do a rap bit, now do a dance, now end with pyros!” Like objectively I'm not sure there's anything wrong with it but it just feels… generic!! 6/12

Slovenia: Points for not English + I kinda want the lead singer's shirt + it's funky + band! With instruments! It's certainly no Maneskin, but yeah, definitely favourite of the night so far! 8/12

Croatia: Myf (Australian commentator) just described them as bonkers so I am eagerly awaiting this. …It is indeed bonkers! Not sure about the weird military-esque vibe but it's also giving somewhat cheerleader? Okay this is basically nigh unlistenable but it does get Bonkers Points™. 5/12

United Kingdom: It's certainly not bad! It's just very… more of the same, I guess?

So starting out with a really fun one, Australia and Finland have not-great places in the very middle of the pack, and we're ending with something very… samey. Well, we'll see how it goes!

[freelystrangenight]

Rating every Eurovision final performance until I get bored (tw: opinions):

1) Austria : 9/10 not the greatest thing since sliced bread but a solid vibe, my kinda weird and pleasant musically, like the "ghostly" harmonies, scrarch my brain pleasantly, and as English lit student I appreciate poe.

2) Portugal: 5/10 not bad but legit don't remember anything and it just finished; piano riff sounded like I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor

3) Switzerland: 4,5/10 feels very general-pop; good lyrics but the arrangement/melody makes me kinda too bored to really listen; formal line sounded like "Sk8ter boy" by Avril Lavigne

4) Poland (motherland, I'm so not proud, WHY): 4/10 song is generic summer radio pop, nothing original but honestly not the worst I've heard, tho I'm pretty sure I have heard a Latino/Spanish pop song at least very similar; also unfortunately heard fragments of this before and this performance is not too bad for her, at least she worked on it; why the dance solo (pun intended hehe) exists tho

5) Serbia: 6/10 man, the boi is pretty, but can he sing? Apparently not really 😬 visually interesting performance, auditorily not so much 😭 (dunno if it's a word). Points for originality tho, but will not stream.

6) France: 8/10 Strong vocals. Song is definitely not what I initially expected, which makes it more interesting. Really vibing. Honestly didn't find anything I didn't like aside from the length of her nails but their hers not my business. Maybe not "Eurovision crazy" enough to win but still love it

7) Cyprus: 3,5/10 pleasant voice but nothing special yet; song feels ESC-generic, don't like the falsetto high notes. Lyrics feel like AI generated broken heart song

8) Spain: 8/10 kinda arabic vibes? Great vibes, song very original, not my personal fave, but still amazing quality-wise imo.

9) Sweden 7/10 Loreen my girl this isn't Euphoria -level :( not bad, but nothing special, tho the singing is mostly amazing. Her nails are a safety hazard, sorry to the French lady.

10) Albania: 5,5/10 very Eastern vibe. Original enough, the main lady sings great, but the song doesn't really resonate with me so far. Don't like the dude.

11) Italy: 9.5/10 sounds like a generic pop but in Italian, and I like his bedazzled top. Ok, nvm, song is not groundbreaking but his voice makes up for it. Not sure if win material but "add to playlist material" for sure. Im pretty sure I've just heard "calzone" in there, prolly incorrect but don't care, extra point

12) Estonia: 9/10 not the most innovative but has 'something', like it so far. Would fit a fantasy soundtrack, maybe that's what has me hooked. The auto-playing piano cracks me up tho, same with the wrist-belts, but those take nothing from the performance.

13) Finland: 6/10 heard it all over Tiktok through last week and am fed up with it😬 is a vibe, but after too many times imo plain annoying. Points for the outfit, personally hate it but is already iconic. Unfortunately song is even more irritating live :/ but also frustratingly catchy, gonna be stuck in my head

14) Czechia: 7/10 was loving the slavicness, wish it didn't switch to English, ruins the vibe, also Female Power points. The performance doesn't give much to watch, but nice to listen to.

15) Australia: 8/10 yeah, never saw a dude in a car on stage before. I like the song very much, but not the most original in the genre. But, might be on of the best ones tonight.

16) Belgium 4/10 generic EDM pop, gives the same vibe as Be My Lover by La Bouche but worse and with Positive Message™️

17) Armenia: 6,5/10 pretty but? Im gonna forget about it in 5 mins or make it my personality for the next 10 days, but option 1 is more probable.

18) Moldova: 9/10 don't know what's going on but in a good way. I think this song may be doing to me what Chachacha was supposed to, tho it's not the greatest thing. (Got a bit bored in the edm interlude)

19) Ukraine: 3/10 feels like they knew what they wanted to say but unfortunately needed to make it into a song. Don't like it at all tbh, but organs in the background are cool.

20) Norway: 10/10 my fave!!!!! Haven't heard the beginning yet! Sounds like she has stage fright:( love tho pls win? Love how she looks like she's enjoying herself

21) Germany: 6/10 why is their leader cosplaying Vecna from ST???? Song stands out but, feels generic at the same time?

22) Lithuania: 6,5/10 life story but make it Disney soundtrack. Nothing we haven't heard on ESC before, but not bad. Pretty visual display .

23) Israel: 3/10 ummm no. Shame it isn't in a language I don't know, would like it much better. Like the voice, and the instrumentals at the beginning, but that's it. No, I didn't wanna see you dance. Choreo is nice tho.

24) Slovenia: 9,5/10 sounds like something I usually would like (i think(on second thought no, not really)) but I do. Guy has a good voice, love their energy, somehow they look friendly.

25) Croatia: 10/10 gay sailors who's mother bought a tractor? Eurovision at it's finest 😂 this one stands out like nothing else

26) UK: 2/10 don't be boring pls!!! Ok, you are ;( the intro was promising, then she started to sing... Nothing criminally bad, would bear it on the radio, but boring af

Disclaimer: I now nothing or next to nothing about the artists, their backgrounds etc. Also my ratings don't reflect any predictions as to who may win.

[because-its-eurovision]

I'm a huge Lord Of The Lost fan and have been since like 2016 so seeing them in ESC is a massive thing for me, how do you think they will do in the results.

At the moment I'd say around 20th place. It depends on their place in the running order and if Australia qualifies to the final (I'm pretty sure they will).

I considered two factors here: how well rock/heavy entries like Blood and Glitter usually do at Esc and how well Germany has done at Esc in the previous years. Answer to both: not so well.

These are some of the entries Blood and Glitter reminds me of and their results in the final: 2016 Cyprus: Minus One - Alter Ego, 21st place 2017 Ukraine: O.Torvald - Time, 24th place 2018 Hungary: AWS - Viszlát Nyár, 21st place 2022 Finland: The Rasmus - Jezebel, 21st place

There have been some rock entries to do well of course, like Iceland 2019 and Finland & Italy 2021, but they all did better in televote than with juries. In my personal opinion those entries were also all more original and creative rock songs than Blood and Glitter.

I'm afraid Germany might be too middle of the road and formulaic for juries to get excited about it. As for the televote... well, Blind Channel got their televoting 12 points from Estonia, Iceland and Sweden 🙂 Germany on the other hand can't trust their neighbours to give even a single televote point as we have unfortunately seen in the past. I'm still expecting them to gather at least a few dozen points, some of those definitely from Finland 🥰

[thisismyobsessionnow]

I was a bit shocked when I saw how few televotes most entries got. But I get it, while jury (in theory) doesn't have a favourite, the public does. So they're not going to waste money on acts that aren't their absolute favourite. I'm guilty of that, I voted for 3 countries, but ultimately most of my votes went to Finland.

(In theory is a key word there but I digress, let's talk about the televote)

Yeah, I think A LOT, if not most, people think like you and that's the problem.

The system makes people feel forced to focus their votes on one entry to make it worth it instead of giving some support to multiple entries and spread the love. Because if you vote for an underdog, especially one the rest of the people in your country probably won't vote for, it's completely wasted. This year that resulted in a lot of people voting for Finland, leaving all other songs in the wind.

To me, there's a very clear feeling that your individual vote (even if you use all 20) is completely insignificant. Look at these examples:

I did not focus my votes this year (I was so scared my favorites would do bad and wanted to feel like I'd at least done something despite knowing it wouldn't matter), I voted: Germany x5, Australia x5, Finland x5, Slovenia x2, Moldova x2 and Serbia x1

The points my country, Sweden, gave: 12 - Finland, 10 - Norway, 8 - Switzerland, 7 - Belgium, 6 - Italy, 5 - Croatia, 4 - Ukraine, 3 - Czechia, 2 - France, 1 - Australia

Imagine if I'd focused my votes on Germany and given them x20. That, most likely, would not have given them any actual points. And if it had, well, then Australia would have lost a point and that's not at all what I wanted.

Alternatively, imagine if I'd focused my votes on Finland (which I considered) and given them x20. That would have been even more wasted, because no matter how many more times I voted for them they could not gain any more actual points. My lovely countrymen (I'm SO happy we gave Finland 12 btw) had already voted enough to max them out!

With this system it doesn't matter if 95% of the votes in a country were for Finland, they could never get more than 12 points. And the second best will always get 10 points, even if the difference in actual votes could be massive. Now of course we don't know if that was the case in any countries but I would not be surprised if it was.

So, I think what I'm saying is, as sad as it would be to lose the "12 points go to.." scrap the static points and make it relative. The total number of points can be the same (or maybe not, I don't know, this is not a finished and good to go idea) but make it possible for someone to get 95% of the points from one country if they get 95% of the votes.

[gaymer-hag-stan]

Good evening Europe!

It's that magical time of the year again when we all come together to trash each others' musical tastes!

The point system has changed many times over the years, and as various countries have come and gone, it is hard to determine who did "the best" based on the points they got alone as, since the maximum available points doubled with the jury and televote scores no longer being combined, post 2016 entries would have an obvious advantage and, likewise, the contests with 40+ participants would also have more maximum available points to give so a country getting 200 points in 2004 is not the same as another getting 200 points in 2009 or 2016.

But if we divide the points each entry got by the maximum available points for the respective year it competed, we get a percentage score that can easily be measured against entries from years with differing point systems.

So, for example, in 2009 42 countries participated. The maximum points each country can award is of course 12 and you can't vote for yourself. So 41 × 12 = 492. Let's then take Norway's total of 387 points and divide it by the 492 total of maximum available points. We get 78.6, meaning Norway and Alexander Rybak amassed 78.6% of the total points in 2009!

In the case of tie breaks the entry that placed higher in its respective year wins the tie break and if there's still a tie I used rules similar to the actual contest; the winner of a tie is the entry that received more points from televoting. If there are no split results available to the public, the entry that received points from more countries, then the country that received more 12 points, then 10 points all the way down to 1. If the tie cannot be broken in this way, the entry that performed earlier wins the tie break.

I've set 2004 as the "beginning of time", if you will, because that's when I started watching Eurovision and because there also had to be some sort of limit to how far back I would go with this 🤣

With that very long-winded explanation of my measuring tactics out of the way, shall we see our current Top 100 before new entries are added after the 2023 Grand Final is over?

100. Greece 🇬🇷 - 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios and Friends - Opa - 30.7%

99. Armenia 🇦🇲 - 2010 - Eva Rivas - Apricot Stone - 30.9%

98. Bulgaria 🇧🇬 - 2016 - Poli Genova - If Love Was a Crime - 31.1%

97. Belgium 🇧🇪 - 2010 - Tom Dice - Me and My Guitar - 31.3%

96. Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 - 2019 - Chingiz - Truth - 31.4%

95. North Macedonia 🇲🇰 - 2019 - Tamara Todevska - Proud - 31.7%

94. Serbia 🇷🇸 - 2008 - Jelena Tomasevic feat. Bora Duguc - Oro - 31.7%

93. Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 - 2010 - Safura - Drip Drop - 31.7%

92. Bulgaria 🇧🇬 - 2007 - Elitsa Todorova and Stoyan Yankoulov - Water - 31.7%

91. Moldova 🇲🇩 - 2005 - Zdob si Zdub - Boonika bate toba - 32.4%

90. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2006 - Tina Karol - Show Me Your Love - 32.6%

89. Denmark 🇩🇰 - 2010 - Chanée and N'evergreen - In a Moment like This - 32.6%

88. Finland 🇫🇮 - 2021 - Blind Channel - Dark Side - 33%

87. Hungary 🇭🇺 - 2014 - András Kállay-Saunders - Running - 33.1%

86. Turkey 🇹🇷 - 2007 - Kenan Dogulu - Shake It Up Sekerim - 33.1%

85 Greece 🇬🇷 - 2013 - Koza Mostra feat. Agathon Iakovidis - Alcohol Is Free - 33.3%

84. Serbia 🇷🇸 - 2022 - Konstrakta - In corpore sano - 33.3%

83. Latvia 🇱🇻 - 2005 - Walters and Khaza - The War Is Not Over - 33.5%

82. Israel 🇮🇱 - 2005 - Shiri Maimon - HaSheket SheNish'ar - 33.7%

81. Germany 🇩🇪 - 2008 - Michael Schulte - You Let Me Walk Alone - 33.7%

80. Italy 🇮🇹 - 2017 - Francesco Gabbani - Occidentali's Karma - 33.9%

79. Austria 🇦🇹 - 2018 - Cesár Sampson - Nobody but You - 33.9%

78. Norway 🇳🇴 - 2019 - Keiino - Spirit in the Sky - 34.4%

77. Romania 🇷🇴 - 2007 - Luminita Anghel and Sistem - Let Me Try - 34.6%

76. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2019 - John Lundvik - Too Late for Love - 34.7%

75. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2011 - Mika Newton - Angel - 34.8%

74. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2017 - Robin Bengtsson - I Can't Go On - 34.9%

73. United Kingdom 🇬🇧 - 2009 - Jade Ewen - It's My Time - 35.1%

72. Romania 🇷🇴 - 2010 - Paula Seling and Ovi - Playing with Fire - 35.5%

71. Turkey 🇹🇷 - 2009 - Hadise - Düm Tek Tek - 35.9%

70. Norway 🇳🇴 - 2008 - Maria - Hold On Be Strong - 36.1%

69. Lithuania 🇱🇹 - 2006 - LT United - We Are the Winners - 36.4%

68. Belgium 🇧🇪 - 2017 - Blanche - City Lights - 36.8%

67. Turkey 🇹🇷 - 2010 - Manga - We Could Be the Same - 37.2%

66. Switzerland 🇨🇭 - 2019 - Luca Hänni - She Got Me - 37.9%

65. Moldova 🇲🇩 - 2017 - SunStroke Project - Hey Mamma - 38%

64. Russia 🇷🇺 - 2013 - Dina Garipova - What If - 38.1%

63. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2006 - Carola - Invincible - 38.2%

62. Russia 🇷🇺 - 2019 - Sergey Lazarev - Scream - 38.5%

61. Romania 🇷🇴 - 2006 - Mihai Traistariu - Tornerò - 38.7%

60. Armenia 🇦🇲 - 2008 - Sirusho - Qélé, Qélé - 39.4%

59. Latvia 🇱🇻 - 2015 - Aminata - Love Injected - 39.7%

58. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2021 - Go_A - Shum - 39.9%

57. Armenia 🇦🇲 - 2014 - Aram Mp3 - Not Alone - 40.3%

56. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2004 - Lena Philipsson - It Hurts - 40.4%

55. Cyprus 🇨🇾 - 2004 - Lisa Andreas - Stronger Every Minute - 40.4%

54. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2011 - Eric Saade - Popular - 40.5%

53. Iceland 🇮🇸 - 2021 - Dathi og Gagnamagnith - 10 Years - 41.4%

52. Italy 🇮🇹 - 2011 - Raphael Gualazzi - Madness of Love - 41.4%

51. Australia 🇦🇺 - 2015 - Guy Sebastian - Tonight Again - 41.8%

50. Norway 🇳🇴 - 2013 - Margaret Berger - I Feed You My Love - 41.8%

49. Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 - 2009 - AySel and Arash - Always - 42%

48. Russia 🇷🇺 - 2007 - Serebro - Song #1 - 42%

47. Malta 🇲🇹 - 2005 - Chiara - Angel - 42.1%

46. Greece 🇬🇷 - 2008 - Kalomira - Secret Combination - 43.2%

45. Cyprus 🇨🇾 - 2018 - Eleni Foureira - Fuego - 43.2%

44. Serbia 🇷🇸 - 2012 - Zeljko Joksimovic - Nije ljubav stvar - 43.4%

43. Iceland 🇮🇸 - 2009 - Yohanna - Is It True? - 44.3%

42. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2008 - Ani Lorak - Shady Lady - 45.6%

41. Belgium 🇧🇪 - 2015 - Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside - 46.3%

40. Turkey 🇹🇷 - 2004 - Athena - For Real - 46.4%

39. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2022 - Cornelia Jakobs - Hold Me Closer - 46.7%

38. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2013 - Zlata Ognevich - Gravity - 46.9%

37. Switzerland 🇨🇭 - 2021 - Gjon's Tears - Tout l'univers - 47.3%

36. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2007 - Verka Serduchka - Dancing Lasha Tumbai - 47.7%

35. Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 - 2011 - Ell and Nikki - Running Scared - 48.4%

34. Spain 🇪🇸 - 2022 - Chanel - SloMo - 49%

33. Italy 🇮🇹 - 2019 - Mahmood - Soldi - 49.1%

32. United Kingdom 🇬🇧 - 2022 - Sam Ryder - Space Man - 49.7%

31. Russia 🇷🇺 - 2016 Sergey Lazarev - You Are the Only One - 49.8%

30. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2014 - Sanna Nielsen - Undo 50.4%

29. Greece 🇬🇷 - 2005 - Helena Paparizou - My Number One - 50.4%

28. Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 - 2013 - Farid Mammadov - Hold Me - 51.3%

27. Bosnia and Herzegovina 🇧🇦 - 2006 - Hari Mata Hari - Lejla - 51.5%

26. Netherlands 🇳🇱 - 2019 - Duncan Lawrence - Arcade - 51.8%

25. Australia 🇦🇺 - 2016 - Dami Im - Sound of Silence - 51.9%

24. Israel 🇮🇱 - 2018 - Netta - Toy - 52.4%

23. Russia 🇷🇺 - 2012 - Buranovskiye Babushki - Party for Everybody - 52.6%

22. Germany 🇩🇪 - 2010 - Lena - Satellite - 53.9%

21. Russia 🇷🇺 - 2008 - Dima Bilan - Believe - 53.9%

20. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2016 - Jamala - 1944 - 54.2%

19. Serbia 🇷🇸 - 2007 - Marija Serifovic - Molitva - 54.4%

18. France 🇫🇷 - 2021 - Barbara Pravi - Voilà - 54.7%

17. Netherlands 🇳🇱 - 2014 - The Common Linnets - Calm After the Storm - 55%

Honourable Mention. Turkey 🇹🇷 - 2003 - Sertab Erener - Everyway That I Can - 55.6%

16. Russia 🇷🇺 - 2006 - Dima Bilan - Never Let You Go - 55.8%

15. Italy 🇮🇹 - 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e Buoni - 57.4%

14. Greece 🇬🇷 - 2004 - Sakis Rouvas - Shake It - 60%

13. Denmark 🇩🇰 - 2013 - Emmelie de Forest - Only Teardrops - 61.6%

12. Italy 🇮🇹 - 2015 - Il Volo - Grande amore - 62.3%

11. Bulgaria 🇧🇬 - 2017 - Kristian Kostov - Beautiful Mess - 62.5%

10. Serbia and Montenegro 🇷🇸 - 2004 - Zeljko Joksimovic and Ad-Hoc Orchestra - Lane Moje - 62.6%

9. Russia 🇷🇺 - 2015 - Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices - 64.7%

8. Finland 🇫�� - 2006 - Lordi - Hard Rock Hallelujah - 65.7%

7. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2004 - Ruslana - Wild Dances - 66.6%

6. Austria 🇦🇹 - 2014 - Conchita Wurst - Rise Like a Phoenix - 67.1%

5. Ukraine 🇺🇦 - 2022 - Kalush Orchestra - Stefania - 67.4%

4. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2012 - Loreen - Euphoria - 75.6%

3. Portugal 🇵🇹 - 2017 - Salvador Sobral - Amar pelos dois - 77%

2. Sweden 🇸🇪 - 2015 - Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes - 77.9%

1. Norway 🇳🇴 - 2009 - Alexander Rybak - Fairytale - 78.6%

And there it is! The 100 most successful Eurovision entries from 2004 to 2022?

Did your all time fave make the cut?

[residentraccoon]

Esc 2023 Top 37

1. Moldova - Might be biased, might not, this is staying as my first, I love everything about this

2. Portugal - Man these upbeat, slightly retro songs with a touch of ethnic flavor are like a magnet to me, I'm absolutely loving this as well lmao

3. Latvia - How can such a soft and sweet song like this be so powerful at the same time. This is the Með hækkandi sól of this year for me, and I hope they'll surprise Q just like Systur did

4. Estonia - It gives me so much hope and confidence in myself, like it's empowering but not in a cheesy way. The instrumental is pure art as well

5. Czechia - Yes girls bring the harmonies. It's been playing in my head a lot lately

6. Norway - *sigh* okay I fell into liking this one, I admit. I overlooked the earworm-ness of this song and she carries the whole performance so well.

7. Australia - Had to put it in my top 10, dated dad rock never fails to dissapoint me (unless said dad rock is called Intention)

8. Iceland - Sounds a bit 80s which I love, she has so much energy on stage

9. Slovenia - Such a charming britpop, I love these guys

10. Finland - The power of cha cha cha has gotten to me, send help 🫣

11. France - What a neat bop, also love her style a lot

12. Spain - Sounds pretty bizarre and hypnotic, I actually like how hauting it sounds lol

13. Serbia - Same as Spain, his presence is also really cool ngl

14. Sweden - Grew off me a bit, I must say that the staging is really good, but in studio it really doesn't elevate to the same way it does live. As much as I like Loreen, her staging, and her song, which is good indeed, I don't really want her to win? It's weird I know lmao

15. Austria - I've seen this being very popular in the fandom but honestly beside the message and the vocals it just doesn't really do that much for me. It's catchy yes, but not something I'd go out of my way to listen tbh

16. Armenia - Didn't quite impress me but gotta appreciate that clumsy but sweet english used in her lyrics. They feel so real

17. Malta - Kinda grower?? The sax is too catchy

18. Italy - It's a very sweet, calming song. I noticed Italy is pretty underrated this year, which is a bit weird because they're always talked about

19. Germany - Wish I liked this one more but I feel it lacks more enthusiasm or power? Still I kinda like this glam rock style

20. Georgia - Oh my god girl what are those lyrics? Tag yourself I'm "love is a wordless". Other than that, I like the beat but man, those lyrics are giving me last stage dyslexia and totally ruin the song for me :(

21. Romania - It's not the worst song of this year 😤 I know most are put off because of that staging but listen the studio or his other live versions and I assure you it's more bearable this way. Even so, I agree that one might find the vocals grating or the pacing weird, but honestly I don't have a problem with that. It's a pretty competent song.

22. Denmark - Get rid of that awful vocoder and we'll talk later. I really like how colorful the music video is, and it's another one that I started liking a bit more, but still doesn't do that much for me

23. Netherlands - Yawned like 3 times listening to this, it's pleasant but that's it

24. Azerbaijan - Ahh finally they're sending something self-written and not produced by swedes. Even if it sounds like a camp rock-esque ballad that's a bit filler, I find it more heartfelt and authentic than literally everything else Azerbaijan wanted to bless us with in recent years, and hell, do I like this more than those ones

25. United Kingdom - A pretty nice pop song, but that's all I have to say. I think it will come alive more on stage

26. Ukraine - It's decent and catchy, nothing groundbreaking

27. Cyprus - Other than the chorus, it's extremely bland and way too polished imho

28. Switzerland - I quite liked the pacing of it, but those lyrics get a bit too much on the "war bad, give us points" side which rubs me the wrong way. That or I might be overanalyzing it

29. Lithuania - Too whiny for my ears, but the final part is pretty cute

30. Albania - What turkish soap opera is this, I need to know. Speaking of the song, I feel like it wants to be this grand, empowering ballad but falls flat and fails to be so

31. Belgium - Well, it's catchy and groovy and that's about it

32. Greece - Why does this remind me of Snap a bit? Maybe it's the rhythm or his pronunciation. I love how his voice sounds, but I feel like this song really doesn't do him justice. It kind of builds up to something but in the end nothing happens

33. Ireland - If the word "bland" would be a song. Just a typical, most Irish in Eurovision entry there is. No offense, their vocals are good at least

34. Israel - Sounds like 2012, not in a good way. Repeats the same thing in the chorus, tries to be a bOPppPp yassss grl powahhhh, we're bein phenomen femininallll today yassss dance break cuz we are quwueennzzz- okay sorry, this one has everything I dislike in a song ever. Halfway listening I wanted to close it, but I had to finish it to have a proper opinion and rank it

35. Poland - Same as Israel but somehow even less tolerable and more painfully generic, walmart Inna vacation at the beach kind of song I'd hear while taking a walk outside. Also the nf shitstorm helps me dislike the song even more, and I didn't even listen to Jann Gladiator

36. San Marino - Please this sounds like something I'd hear in Selectia Nationala in like 2017 that places last 😭

37. Croatia - This doesn't even remotely sound like a song, I'm sorry but could never listen to this more than the first minute

[totaldramafan-lauri]

Jury votes, part 2

Nothing for Croatia or Switzerland yet, and- wait, 10 FOR CYPRUS?????

Even Greece giving 12 to Switzerland

8 for Croatia....They keep getting 8s....XD I'll take it!!

Another for Switzerland....

Another 8 for Croatia.....

Only 2 this time, pfffff.....And 12 to Portugal again!! I've stopped pointing out the 12s for Switzerland, they're getting so MANY-

C'mon.....yup, this again....and 8 for Croatia again

10 for Croatia, pushing them into THIRD yes yes yes yes!!!!

OK, will it be them again? It could be Croatia! Croatia haven't gotten a 12 yet.....! But nah, of course it's Switzerland

France holding onto second place! Italy pushing Croatia down again

Aaaaaand back to third! Pffffff XD But only 6 for Switzerland? Will be France? Yup!

Latvia's curse indeed was broken! And TBH, they should be doing better-

Rock and roll was all we did~

7 more points for Croatia!!!

Holy shit, Switzerland are CURBSTOMPING- I just noticed the point difference-

10 for Ukraine, 8 for Croatia.....

OH MY GOD WILL IT BE CROATIA

HOLY SHIT THEIR FIRST 12

THANK YOU CYPRUS

YES YES YES YES THEY GOT A JURY 12!!!!

Ten more.....!!!

Yes, Switzerland got another one but YAAAYYY CROATIA AREN'T OUTTA THE GAME!!!

C'MON SERBIA

C'MON SERBIA!!!!

FRICK YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! ANOTHER 12!!! <3

AND ANOTHER 10

OK, you can give it to Switzerland now, Sweden

THE JURY VOTE HAS SPOKEN

THEY OVERWHELMINGLY WANT SWITZERLAND TO WIN!!!!!

[mariacallous]

Here is one fact that sums up the gap between the promises that Kyiv’s European partners have made to Ukraine and the reality. In March 2023, the EU made the historic decision to deliver a million artillery shells to Ukraine within 12 months. But the number that has actually been sent is closer to 300,000. For all the rhetorical commitments to support Ukraine’s defence against Russia’s invasion “for as long as it takes”, Europe has largely failed.

The price of this complacency is already being paid in Ukrainian blood. According to the armed forces of Ukraine, over the summer of 2023, Ukraine was firing up to 7,000 artillery shells a day and managed to degrade Russia’s logistics and artillery to the point where Russia was firing about 5,000 rounds a day. Today, the Ukrainians are struggling to fire 2,000 rounds daily, while Russian artillery is reaching about 10,000. Artillery isn’t everything, but the disparity speaks to Ukraine’s relative shortage of materiel, evident in other areas such as the number of drones it can field.

Russia is likely to be able to fire about 5m rounds at Ukraine in 2024, based on its mobilised defence production, supply from Iran and North Korea, and remaining stocks. Despite the flippant observation – often made by European officials – that Russia’s economy is the same size as that of Italy, the Kremlin is producing more shells than all of Nato. Meanwhile, Ukraine is unlikely to see any significant increase in supply for some months. This will cede the initiative to the Russians. The Kremlin believes it can win by 2026, and so Putin is in no mood to negotiate or back down.

It does not have to be like this. Earlier this month, the Estonian Ministry of Defence published a white paper detailing the levels of military equipment required to make Ukraine’s defence sustainable and for it to pursue the liberation of the occupied territories by 2025. The Estonians costed the requirements, showing they were well within the bounds of possibility. The issue is not money, but competence in delivery. If the steps to implement these measures are not taken, Ukraine will lose.

Ensuring Russia’s defeat in Ukraine is feasible, but it requires some important steps. First, Ukraine will need a steady supply of weapons to be able to blunt Russian attacks over the first half of 2024. This will require plenty of US support, but also increasing supply from European Nato members, whose backing will be critical as the US election looms in November. Many of the munitions provided since the beginning of the war were purchased from the international market or drawn from stockpiles, and investment in European production has been slow. But as stocks run out, sustaining Ukraine’s war effort depends critically on increasing Europe’s manufacturing capacity.

Second, it is essential that Ukraine corrects the mistakes that led to its failed counteroffensive in 2023. Improving the training of its troops must be the top priority. During the second world war, British forces considered 22 weeks of infantry training the minimum before a soldier was ready to join a unit, where they would then carry out collective training as part of a battalion. Ukrainian troops are lucky to get five weeks of training, while collective training is rarely carried out above the scale of the company. European Nato must expand and extend the training support provided in order to give Ukrainian units a wider tactical repertoire, and more importantly expand the scale at which the army can command and synchronise operations.

Persistent inflation and economic shocks, like the disruption to global shipping from Houthi missile attacks in the Bab al-Mandab, mean that among European countries, making a long-term economic commitment to Ukraine will be a domestic political challenge. But that is to ignore its potential upsides. Investment in defence production, rather than relying on purchases from abroad, comes with significant levels of domestic industrial investment and with the potential for expenditure to be recovered through increased tax receipts.

There are good security reasons to invest in domestic production, too. A failure to do so now could leave European leaders needing to deter a fully mobilised Russia without stockpiles or the capacity to replenish them. Meanwhile, a simultaneous escalation in the Indo-Pacific in 2025 could cause the US to shift a range of critical military capabilities – aerial refuelling, logistics, air defences – to deter China, leaving Europe significantly exposed.

For Ukraine, the immediate future is one of several months of hard fighting without critical resources, while endeavouring to regenerate the combat power that was expended over 2023. But Europe can determine what the second half of 2024 and indeed 2025 will look like. This is a war that can be won. The recent successful strike on the Russian landing ship Novocherkassk in harbour, protected by layers of Russian defences, shows how Ukraine can make effective use of the equipment that it is supplied with. But European security must not be squandered by more complacency.

[lotlvision]

my first listen jesc 2023 rankings!

ireland 9.5/10 oh i adore the mood of this, and her dress! this is going to be BEAUTIFUL on stage i can already tell, and she's got such a lovely voice. as long as she can perform it live, she'll be a big contender.

spain, 9/10 oh this is SO fun, i love the video. so many fun colours, i hope the staging lives up to the vibe this gives off. it doesn't feel like a winner in a competition - a little bit too pop-y for that - but is DEFINITELY going in my playlists!

portugal, 9/10 i REALLY like this one, her voice is beautiful, it's such a wonderful mood. i'm not sure how it'll translate to the stage - i'm crossing my fingers she can do really well. another one that's a big favourite for me but doesn't feel like it'll win a competition

germany, 9/10 oh my god she's singing AND signing? that is IMPRESSIVE. big fan of the instrumental, this is another one that has a huge potential with the staging. the fact that i'm already trying to sing along and i'm writing this during the second chorus says it all

georgia, 9/10 i wanted georgia to win last year, and i honestly really love the music video. if the staging matches it with storytelling this could be another really strong contender. the usual comment on recorded vocals, hope they can deliver on stage. LOVE the costumes

malta, 8.5/10 some great vocals (if replicated live), a really good song all round honestly. we'll see how it translates to the stage, i think they could risk taking away from the sound of her voice if they try to get too busy with the staging

ukraine, 8.5/10 the fact that a kid young enough to still be loosing baby teeth is performing LIVE this well already is insane to me. the staging is fun, the colours are wonderful and bright, and i love her costume. super catchy too!

united kingdom, 8/10 last but not least - us! the costumes are great, though these kids look more like 17 than 12/13! there's a clear direction for the staging already, the dance is fun, the song is quirky and unique. if they can perform it live it'll be great!

france, 8/10 i love that they've recycled la zarra's props 😉 it's very france, which checks out. france always delivers so no surprises here. much like the others, just fingers crossed she can deliver the vocals live.

the netherlands, 8/10 this is a builder, the dancers in the first part are going too hard for the song at that point. the staging looks fun, it's all very co-ordinated. it's a fun song, but possibly too generic-pop to stand out? the vocals are very good, especially the young girl!

armenia, 8/10 a music video always makes it harder to assess what live vocals will be like, but it's a fun song, lots of bright colours, good choreography. if they can perform is live it'll be great on the stage!

estonia, 8/10 music video again so hard to judge live vocals, but the song is very pretty. the staging should be powerful but simple if the video is anything to go by. the worst part about (j)esc is pitting ballads and pop songs against each other

italy, 7/10 the vocals are very mature, though the usual pre-recorded disclaimer applies. i'm not sure i have much of a sense of how staging, lighting, costumes etc. might work so i'm a little lost with where to put this

poland, 7/10 it doesn't feel too special, hopefully with some polishing between selection and next months there'll be less nerves, she had a great voice further into the song. i don't think this will make waves, but i could be wrong!

north macedonia, 7/10 she has a lovely voice, and i hope those moons(?) feature in the staging. i like her voice, but it's pre-recorded and doesn't quite match with the video. we'll see how she does live. it has potential!

albania, 6/10 viola has a solid voice, especially if those pre-recorded vocals are also her, damn good range. the instrumental feels a bit empty, & between singing there's not much in the way of stage presence, but she should have more to play with at jesc.

[deep-hearts-core]

2023: Final

alright folks i'm still a little too bitter to rewatch just yet so you're getting my first impressions. (see here for my thoughts on the loreen issue, i'm not going to type it all out again.)

France It is a nice flashy stage show. I liked the staging but really, this entry doesn't do it for me. It feels like every other French entry that's ever gone to Eurovision and the cool platform is not enough to make me like it, even if La Zarra sounded good. It kind of just bores me.

Spain Europe paid this dust!!! Yall!!! I've loved this song from the jump. Blanca Paloma has the perfect voice for this and I'm so drawn in by the staging and those harmonies. Obviously it was hurt by coming immediately before Loreen but like, five televote points? Seriously? (Btw I voted for this one so some of those ROTW points came from me hehehe)

Italy I was not expecting to like this as much as I did. It's a nice song just not usually what I go for, and I wasn't crazy about L'essenziale. But it works. It was really nice staging and an emotionally engaged, sincere performance. Sometimes you need songs like this.

Ukraine Staging was so good on this. I mean, the coordination necessary to pull off some of that!! And they sounded good too. It's not the type of music I usually like, just a little too mellow, but nonetheless a really enjoyable performance to watch.

Germany Dear god, I wish Europe had rewarded Germany for taking some risks. It was an interesting, different song with a good stage performance. Not usually my style of music but you can't deny that they did really well. But also, I don't like this sort of thing, so there was this tension for me between "well they didn't deserve dead last, objectively they did a good job" but also "I didn't really like it".

United Kingdom Oh, Mae. She sounded bad and the staging was bad - they had the same problem as Austria, relying too much on the stage graphics and too many wide shots. But Mae also didn't sound good. Which is a shame, because I like the song! It's taken me a while to get here, but I've come around to the song in studio, I think it's a good take on the sort of Eurogirlboss stuff.

My top 37 1. Lithuania 2. Portugal 3. Australia 4. Slovenia 5. Spain 6. Belgium 7. Estonia 8. Georgia 9. Italy 10. Finland 11. Czechia 12. Serbia 13. Armenia 14. Greece 15. Sweden 16. Ukraine 17. Norway 18. Albania 19. Malta 20. Moldova 21. Latvia 22. Iceland 23. Cyprus 24. Israel 25. Switzerland 26. Germany 27. Austria 28. France 29. Netherlands 30. United Kingdom 31. Poland 32. Denmark 33. San Marino 34. Azerbaijan 35. Ireland 36. Romania 37. Croatia

Closing thoughts This turned out to be a really strong year, i think. The stage was really good and all the songs from, like, my place 30 and up, I actually enjoyed watching. I'm just dissatisfied with the way that the television panned out, but such is life. I hope that Käärijä comes out of this with a strong career, though. He's been releasing music since 2017 so I hope that all the people who are angry about the result go and check out his music - I plan on giving it a listen! If you're salty, what you can do right now is try and make him more successful than Loreen lol. AND, Monika from Lithuania did so well! I'm so happy with her performance -- happy enough that this is the second year in a row I've ranked Lithuania first :> Someday I'll share bits of my spreadsheet from hell on here. It's great.

[salds-miegs]

okay here we finally go: my opinions/first impressions of all 37 eurovision songs.

i listened through them all in alphabetical order by country, choosing a live/national selection clip where available except for albania and ukraine, which i understand have both revamped their song since the selection (i mean i know ukraine has, re: albania i might have hallucinated reading about it?). spoilers: my bottom 3 are poland, israel, and san marino.

albania - i pretty much like albania every year, and i enjoy them this year as well.

armenia - i guess i liked this more than i expected? which isn't to say i liked it much, but, still.

australia - i liked it but not as much as i expected to. i think this will become one of my favourites once i start hearing the song for what it is and not for what i expected, you know? this is kind of why it's hard to do a first reaction when you've already seen other people's opinions and promotional material etc bcos right now i'm reacting more to the gap between "the song" and "what i thought the song would be like", as opposed to just the song itself, and that's going to be a theme throughout this reaction honestly.

austria - first impression: a banger. i feel like i have to return to this one to fully Get It.

azerbaijan - huh. i think i do actually like this one but not in a way i can totally justify.

belgium - camp!!!! is this song anything fresh or groundbreaking? no. is it really fun and giving 00's eurovision? it sure is and i love that for belgium.

croatia - i like that this is at eurovision, i like the vibes, but idk if the song itself is anything too special. that said i don't think that's the point.

cyprus - snoozefest lol.

czechia - i feel like i really enjoyed most of the song but then it also had parts that completely fell flat for me? i'd still rank it as one of my favourites though

denmark - hmm. i feel like the song was just okay, with a side of that vocal effect really not working for it. it might be fine in the studio version but i listened to the live and you know. eurovision's gonna be live. so.

estonia - this is another song that's really giving 00's eurovision but in a very different way to belgium. i find it hard to really say anything about it bcos i can't figure out whether i like it, or whether my 12-y.o. self would like it, you know what i mean?

finland - okay well i have heard this one before. i watched umk. someone i know compared his outfit to vihreät kuulat and i think that's the best way to describe how i feel about this song actually. this song is a vihreä kuula. i enjoy it, in general i think it's one of the best things to come out of finland, but also i get sick of it very quickly.

france - i always enjoy france at eurovision, so. no one will be surprised to hear i like this.

georgia - hmm. this didn't sound like a song made to be performed live. i think with this one and armenia i'm really going to have to wait until i do hear them live to figure out how i feel about them.

germany - i know a lot of people really liked this but… i didn't, sorry. i didn't like how it felt like the song kept stopping and starting, and even aside from that, it just wasn't for me.

greece - see: cyprus.

iceland - it's fine. i liked the vibes of the performance but the song itself was just okay.

ireland - it's fine.

israel - i found myself rolling my eyes at this one, and there was some cringing as well. one of my least faves rip

italy - it's impossible for italy to send a bad song to eurovision, credit where credit is due. but have they not sent this one before?

latvia - it's fine.

lithuania - it's fine.

malta - fun!

moldova - overall i liked it but it did also leave me with some questions. very much the sort of thing that appeals to me at eurovision though.

netherlands - so i reviewed all the songs before listening to them just for my own notes and for this one i wrote: "i won't like this at first and then it'll grow on me". i was right about a lot of the songs and i was right about this one. i think this'll be very lovely live on stage.

norway - i expected to be blown away by this, based on the hype, but instead i only liked it just fine.

poland - i went to karaoke night at my local dive bar last week and heard better performances than this.

portugal - i love that portugal always send something a little offbeat and i do like this, but compared to some of portugal's previous entries it's not… that exciting to me, you know?

romania - i enjoyed the song but the staging was a little questionable was it not

san marino - didn't san marino have like a hundred songs in their selection? and they picked this? not judging, just asking. anyway this is in my bottom 3 for the lyric "i can smell you like an animal".

serbia - i like this guy's vibes but i'm not in love with the song.

slovenia - again based on my notes from before listening, i predicted that out of all the groups of lads these would be my faves, and i was right! i liked this one!!

spain - oh yes i like this!! thank you spain

sweden - i hope sweden knows what they have in loreen. she's an incredible singer and performer, and she makes this song sound completely magical despite the fact it would be bland as hell with any other artist. the massive screen on top of her makes me really nervous though, i hope they don't bring it to liverpool bcos i know how much that thing weighs and i have anxiety.

switzerland - there was a post about switzerland's song last year that was like "i agree but can't y'all say that a little less boring", and, well, that.

ukraine - is it possible for ukraine to send a bad song? no. is it possible for them to send a bland song? maybe!

united kingdom - this was the last song i listened to so i was very tired by this point BUT i did think it was fun, so. there ya have it.

[dialmelys]

one of the best things to come out of this eurovision is the italian-ukrainian friendship. WE BESTIES

[worldsmightiestwitch]

the only truly valid country in europe is ukraine for giving 12 points to italy from both jury and televote