#trump wants to invade sovereign countries

[lesmotsquinousmanqueny]

Since Trump wants to abandon Ukraine completely, refusing any NATO integration, and "no longer prioritizes Ukraine's and Europe's defense", it's time europeans realize Putin IS our enemy, as much as Hitler once was.

The US just gave him the green light to invade more european countries, and there is no universe in which Ukraine's defeat will end Putin's war path, he's literally extending his army right now.

Europan leaders and countries are saying statements and donating weapons in response, and that's good, but that's forgetting citizens can also send a message.

You can donate to united24, and give a massive fuck you to Trump (and Musk), on top of actively helping Europe's defense.

Europe is not for them to hand over. Europe is not for grabs. Each European nation is sovereign, as is our Union.

Vive l'Europe, Vive l'Ukraine, and fuck Trump

[suratan-zir]

Plainly expressing what is currently happening to the world, drawing conclusions about where these processes lead, using common sense and the lessons history teaches us time and time again, calling a spade a spade - it's not "defeatism" or "fearmongering." False hope based on ignoring reality, an ungrounded sense of calmness, is much more dangerous than a sober view of things.

All that to say... there is a high probability that we're fucked. It doesn't mean nothing can be changed. It doesn't mean people hold no power. It doesn't mean the worst-case scenario is the only one possible. But denying reality isn't helping.

Stop with the "oh, trump is just saying these things, look at his actions, not the words." Well, you know, putin was saying a lot of things too - before invading. Very similar things.

They are hiding their intentions in plain view, and still, some of you are like "hmmm, what does he mean?"

If he says he wants to invade sovereign countries, he probably - probably - means it. And no, he isn't scared of your posters and signs.

[leohtttbriar]

There is an important line between cynicism and nihilism. Assuming that SCOTUS will authorize the end of birthright citizenship would cross that line. Trump’s reascendency to the White House is a pitch-black moment in this country’s history, but that is no license to indulge in preemptive defeat.

Why should we expect the Supreme Court to uphold birthright citizenship? There are three main reasons: one legal, one practical, and another related to the court’s own power. Start with the legal issue: There are few constitutional provisions with a clearer and more settled meaning than the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” This guarantee is rooted in common lawand traces back to the nation’s founding. Congress enshrined it in the Constitution after the Civil War to overturn the Supreme Court’s decision in Dred Scott, which had erroneously denied citizenship to Black Americans. During ratification, senators explicitly recognized that the citizenship clause’s broad language would encompass not just freed slaves but also the children of immigrants. They debated and ultimately approved the extension of birthright citizenship to these children, concluding that their parents’ lack of American citizenship should not abridge their own civil rights. The Supreme Court affirmed this understanding of the 14th Amendment in 1898’s Wong Kim Arkand has never retreated from it.

Trump attempts to get around this plain meaning by latching onto the words “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” His order claims that the children of immigrants are not “subject to” the United States’ jurisdiction, presumably because their parents are citizens of another country. This argument is an indefensible misreading of both the text and the historical record. Once again, senators discussed this issue when drafting the 14th Amendment, and agreed that the “jurisdiction” language simply means “subject to our laws.” And the Supreme Court has clarified that all immigrants, both lawful and undocumented, are fully subject to U.S. jurisdiction.

Why, then, did Congress mention jurisdiction in the 14th Amendment? Because it intended to exclude the offspring of three groups who were not fully “subject” to U.S. law: foreign diplomats, invading soldiers, and Native tribes. Diplomats and soldiers were viewed as agents of a foreign sovereign, while tribes were, at the time, viewed as “quasi foreign nations.” But Congress was adamant that all other people, including immigrants’ offspring, be included in the promise of birthright citizenship.

To uphold Trump’s executive order, then, the Supreme Court would have to jettison 126 years of precedent, abolishing an ancient right at the heart of constitutional liberty. That will give the court serious pause. A large majority of justices almost certainly do not want to destabilize American law in this way, abruptly eradicating a right upon which millions have come to rely. Trump’s order also goes far beyond undocumented immigrants, denying citizenship to the children of “temporary” immigrants who are here lawfully. People with H-1B visas, Temporary Protected Status, DACA, and others who’ve long resided in the U.S. would evidently fall under this category, meaning their offspring would not receive citizenship. If implemented, this policy would be extremely unpopular: Most Americans do not want to end birthright citizenship for the children of undocumented people, let alone the children of legal immigrants. It would also upend the practical realities of citizenship, creating immense confusion that would invariably wind up in the judiciary’s lap.

not sure how much i agree that “the court” wants to not be seen as trump’s lapdog but i agree that this is one of those issues that roberts, barrett, gorsuch, and kavanaugh would be very likely to not side with him on.

[ralfmaximus]

The White House has directed the U.S. military to draw up options for increasing the American troop presence in Panama to achieve President Trump’s goal of “reclaiming” the Panama Canal, according to two U.S. officials familiar with the planning.

Even NBC News knows what reclaiming means, since they put it in quotes. The word they want to use is invasion.

Yes. Our "president" is planning to invade another sovereign country.

[yourreddancer]

Today was one of those days that will live in infamy.

Donald Trump disgraced the Oval Office yet again, this time using it as a stage to undermine Ukraine and cozy up to Vladimir Putin. With Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy sitting right there, Trump—flanked by his Kremlin-parroting sidekick, JD Vance—repeated Russian propaganda and questioned why Zelenskyy dared to criticize Putin. The leader of a sovereign nation fighting for its very existence had to sit through an American president echoing Moscow’s talking points.

Senator Adam Schiff just joined me on the MeidasTouch Network for an exclusive interview to break it all down, and his reaction was clear: This was an absolute betrayal, not just of Ukraine, but of every democracy around the world.

Then, as if the embarrassment of that Oval Office meeting wasn’t enough, Trump canceled his press conference, then took to his failing social media site to announce he was also canceling peace talks. Yes, canceling peace talks. Like a petulant child throwing a tantrum, Trump reacted to being challenged by shutting down diplomacy entirely. And then, standing outside the White House in his ridiculous red MAGA hat, he actually criticized Zelenskyy for saying anything negative about Putin.

“He’s got to say, ‘I want to make peace,’” Trump whined. “It isn’t enough to stand there and say, ‘Putin this, Putin that, all negative things.’”

Let that sink in. Donald Trump, who is supposed to be defending American interests, just said Zelenskyy should stop criticizing Putin. You know, the guy actively invading his country. If it weren’t so dangerous, it would be laughable.

And what’s Trump’s big policy plan? Not supporting our allies. Not defending democracy. Instead, this week, he announced he’d be selling Trump Gold Cards—for $5 million a pop—to Russian oligarchs, promising them a pathway to U.S. citizenship. You heard that right: Russian billionaires can now buy their way into America under Trump’s plan. But hey, no “negative things” about Putin, right?

Senator Schiff made it clear that this isn’t just a crisis for Ukraine—it’s a crisis for all of us. Trump is actively working to dismantle our alliances, destabilize global security, and sell out the country to the highest bidder. But here’s the thing: Americans see it. And we’re not going to let him get away with it.

Watch our exclusive interview with Senator Schiff now.

[dreaminginthedeepsouth]

Bill Day, Florida Politics

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𝔗𝔯𝔲𝔱𝔥 𝔐𝔞𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 :: @politicsusa46

I am incandescent with rage right now. I feel sick to the stomach. A US Vice President stood today on the soil of where so many Americans gave their lives to defeat fascism in Europe. He delivered a disgraceful speech that spat on their graves. Not that we should expect any different, given his boss skipped visiting the graves of fallen Americans in Europe for fear of getting his hair wet. The same man who called the same fallen heroes suckers and losers.

As a Brit that loves America and the American people, I am deeply disturbed at the insults delivered by a man who once described Donald Trump as an “idiot" and said he was "reprehensible." Privately, comparing him to Adolf Hitler. How times have changed. Vance is now part of the most authoritarian administration in American history. An administration actively seeking to deny bodily autonomy to women. An administration pursuing the same mass deportation of immigrants that Europe witnessed in 1930s Germany. Vance is a man that his own president doesn’t even see as his successor. He came to Europe to vomit his Christo-fascist bile on leaders from the UK and across Europe, in what appears to be a retribution tour designed to assert American power.

The U.S. are to my knowledge the only NATO country to have invoked Article 5 of the NATO charter after 9/11. We, his European allies, met that call with no questions asked. We sent thousands of soldiers to the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq to fight a war on the false premise of Donald Rumsfeld’s ‘known unknowns’. We did this despite millions of our own citizens protesting in the streets of our cities. Our military stood shoulder to shoulder with his military and we, like many Americans, stood to salute our fallen young men and women returning home day after day. I have tears in my eyes as I write this, thinking of them and their loved ones. Our brave men and women willingly gave their all and far too many made the ultimate sacrifice in support of an American led war. For the record, 6000 Ukrainian solders server alongside American soldiers in Iraq. This, despite Ukraine not being a member of NATO. In 1994 upon signing the Budapest Memorandum they gave up their nuclear weapons in return for security assurances from the US and the UK. These were then reneged upon in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea. They were told ‘An assurance is not a guarantee’.

Now, despite their friendship and their brave sacrifice on the battlefields of Ukraine, the President of the United States has decided to abandon them and hand a victory to an indicted war criminal, who illegally invaded the sovereign territory of a US ally. An ally who’s soldiers had previously lost their lives supporting America in its war on terror.

SHAME ON HIM. Shame on the man who dodged the draft and never served a day in defense of his nation. He is a coward and I would gladly call him that to his face. To all those Americans on social media currently posting vile insults to those who have always been there for America, I say, democracy is bigger than you, as you sit anonymously behind your phones posting poison.

America might have the most powerful army on the planet, but remember, that same army fled from Saigon after being handed their ass by a bunch of peasant rice farmers, armed with grenades made from discarded US coke cans. Ukraine have been to the Russian army what the Vietnamese were to you and we salute them. You might want to throw Ukraine under the bus while stealing their mineral deposits, BUT EUROPE WILL NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. I know for sure that the UK will not abandon the Ukrainian people. Our aid to GDP contribution already exceeds that of the US as does Poland, Germany Finland and others. The U.S. is no longer a reliable ally and if need be, we will stand with Ukraine without America. As for your pathetic tariffs, do your worst. You will soon have no friends but thugs and autocrats, so I’m sure Wun Dum Fuc will be right at home.

[darkmaga-returns]

JD Vance puts on a masterclass in dealing with dishonest media.

Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance was forced to correct NBC News anchor Kristen Welker on Sunday after she made a false claim about Donald Trump.

Instead of asking Vance about the Trump-Vance vision for America, Welker chose to begin her interview with Vance — which aired just days before Election Day — by asking him if he views Russian President Vladimir Putin as an "ally" or "enemy."

'I think that that's a misunderstanding of the history, Kristen.'

Vance, in response, called Putin an "adversary" and "competitor," explaining America needs "to be smart about diplomacy." Vance then tried to shift the conversation to topics Americans care about, but Welker refused to ask about those issues. Instead, she asked Vance why he's "not willing to go so far as to call [Putin] an enemy."

"Well, we're not in a war with him, and I don't want to be in a war with Vladimir Putin’s Russia," Vance shot back.

And that's when the interview took a turn.

Vance told Welker that America needs "smart diplomacy" to restore peace in the world and to turn the page from the foreign policy disasters of the Biden-Harris administration. Oddly, Welker responded by asserting that Russia invaded Ukraine when Trump was president, forcing Vance to give her a history lesson.

"Of course, Donald Trump was president for four years while Russia was essentially invading Crimea," Welker said. "Why didn't he kick him out when he had the chance? He had four years."

"Oh, I think that that's a misunderstanding of the history, Kristen," Vance responded.

"Well, there was fighting going on," Welker insisted

"First of all, we had Russia invade another country, a sovereign nation, during Obama," Vance corrected. "We had Russia invade a sovereign nation during Bush’s term. We had Russia invade a sovereign nation during the leadership of Kamala Harris."

[magxit]

This war didn't have to continue on for so long. If people like Boris Johnson didn't encourage zelensky to fight a war, they knew he couldn't win, instead of trying to make a peace deal from day one. Yes, we would love to live in a world where we could have sovereign nations not be invaded and bullied. But life isn't a fairytale. One of the reasons ukraine is in this mess it is, is because they gave up their weapons of mass destruction. You may hate trump, but the 4 years he was in office, there were no wars, and I'd like to go back to that. And so do many Americans, that's why they voted for him. The polls say they don't want to keep funding this war. Now he's there trying to clean up the mess if left by the last administration that let this happen.The west has taunted putin for years saying they'll give Ukraine Nato membership. As much as I think putin is a dictator, on this war, i agree with him. It is laughable that America tries to take the moral high ground while evading the Middle East for decades under the guise of "helping people" when it's really regime change. Imagine Russia influencing the Republic of Ireland right on the northern Ireland border which the UK controls and then them saying they will accept them into a nato type membership involving eastern countries do you honestly think the UK would allow that? No. That's putins situation now. I want the war to stop, and if that means ukraine has to give up some land with a peace deal that involves secruity protection from the US, then that's fine with me

Fuck off

[mugiwara-lucy]

Darling, that Mexican bitch literally bent the knee when President Trump called her Tamale eating ass and when he invades Mexico he'll reduce that shit hole country to rubble while making her suck dick to get ahead the same way he did Cumula. The world knows President Trump is back which is why all world leaders have literally bended the knee and got back in line. Sleeping Joe made the world laugh at us while President Trump is back to keep everyone in line as he's the American boogieman. But anyways, after him and Border Czar Tom Homan gets rid of those worthless parasites from that shit hole third world country with the biggest mass deportation with the help of the Military and local law enforcement, he'll make an example for all law abiding citizens and nip the problem at its bud by razing Mexico to the ground. I can't wait! And then he'll make America the way it was always intended, FOR AMERICANS ONLY! AMERICA FIRST!!

I love how your racism has come out but then again that's why you MAGAts love that deranged old man. Not because of "Gas and Groceries" but you all feel like you can be your trashy, racist selves.

And bend the knee? Stop listening to Trump's bullshit lies and actually listen to what President Sheinbaum actually said.

Trump is NOT dealing with those WEAK MAGA bitches like Laura Loomer, Majorie Taylor Greene and Alina Habba when it comes to President Sheinbaum. She will FUCK HIS ASS EVEN HARDER than when Vice President Harris after she made him cry after their debate.

She'll LITERALLY send him and his tiny hands, that Tom Homan guy and those troops that may be stupid to invade Mexico home in BODY BAGS since Mexico is a sovereign country which means they're our ALLIES. NOT RUSSIA, NOT CHINA, NOT NORTH KOREA AND NOT SAUDI ARABIA. MEXICO IS OUR ALLY. And if he's stupid enough to go through with it (he is), it WILL be an act of war. But you stupid idiots cheering it on? I thought Trump was for "World Peace"? You idiots want him to do an Ethnic cleansing.

And respected around the world? The UN leaders literally LAUGHED at him when he tried to spout the same bullshit that makes his idiot cult like you fawn over him:

It's time you idiots learn that Trump is NOT regarded as this Avatar even though you idiots call him Orange Jesus.

Our Democratic Allies HATE him because you can NOT trust America with him at the helm since he sucks off our enemies since he wants to be an Autocratic dictator like them and even Autocratic rules look at him as a joke since he wants to be them so bad but can't.

And that Tom Homan meathead is an even bigger meathead than Trump since he can NOT use the Military for domestic affairs like Immigrant. That's left to the states. Remember how you guys are all about "States' rights"? Or is it just at your convenience?

And that "American First" shit is the same shit Adolf Hitler did with Nazi Germany back in the 1930s.

[rjzimmerman]

The speech delivered by the US VP (whose name shall remain unacknowledged) at the Munich Security Conference was ignorant. Here's the response of German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius, which is outstanding.

I am incandescent with rage right now. I feel sick to the stomach. A US Vice President stood today on the soil of where so many Americans gave their lives to defeat fascism in Europe. He delivered a disgraceful speech that spat on their graves. Not that we should expect any different, given his boss skipped visiting the graves of fallen Americans in Europe for fear of getting his hair wet. The same man who called the same fallen heroes suckers and losers.

As a Brit that loves America and the American people, I am deeply disturbed at the insults delivered by a man who once described Donald Trump as an “idiot" and said he was "reprehensible." Privately, comparing him to Adolf Hitler.

How times have changed. Vance is now part of the most authoritarian administration in American history. An administration actively seeking to deny bodily autonomy to women. An administration pursuing the same mass deportation of immigrants that Europe witnessed in 1930s Germany. Vance is a man that his own president doesn’t even see as his successor.

He came to Europe to vomit his Christo-fascist bile on leaders from the UK and across Europe, in what appears to be a retribution tour designed to assert American power.

The U.S. are to my knowledge the only NATO country to have invoked Article 5 of the NATO charter after 9/11. We, his European allies, met that call with no questions asked. We sent thousands of soldiers to the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq to fight a war on the false premise of Donald Rumsfeld’s ‘known unknowns’. We did this despite millions of our own citizens protesting in the streets of our cities.

Our military stood shoulder to shoulder with his military and we, like many Americans, stood to salute our fallen young men and women returning home day after day. I have tears in my eyes as I write this, thinking of them and their loved ones. Our brave men and women willingly gave their all and far too many made the ultimate sacrifice in support of an American led war.

For the record, 6000 Ukrainian solders server alongside American soldiers in Iraq. This, despite Ukraine not being a member of NATO. In 1994 upon signing the Budapest Memorandum they gave up their nuclear weapons in return for security assurances from the US and the UK. These were then reneged upon in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea. They were told ‘An assurance is not a guarantee’.

Now, despite their friendship and their brave sacrifice on the battlefields of Ukraine, the President of the United States has decided to abandon them and hand a victory to an indicted war criminal, who illegally invaded the sovereign territory of a US ally. An ally who’s soldiers had previously lost their lives supporting America in its war on terror.

SHAME ON HIM. Shame on the man who dodged the draft and never served a day in defense of his nation. He is a coward and I would gladly call him that to his face. To all those Americans on social media currently posting vile insults to those who have always been there for America, I say, democracy is bigger than you, as you sit anonymously behind your phones posting poison.

America might have the most powerful army on the planet, but remember, that same army fled from Saigon after being handed their ass by a bunch of peasant rice farmers, armed with grenades made from discarded US coke cans. Ukraine have been to the Russian army what the Vietnamese were to you and we salute them.

You might want to throw Ukraine under the bus while stealing there mineral deposits, BUT EUROPE WILL NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. I know for sure that the UK will not abandon the Ukrainian people. Our aid to GDP contribution already exceeds that of the US as does Poland, Germany Finland and others.

The U.S. is no longer a reliable ally and if need be, we will stand with Ukraine without America.

As for your pathetic tariffs, do your worst. You will soon have no friends but thugs and autocrats, so I’m sure Wun Dum Fuc will be right at home.

[weenie-extraordinaire]

Okay, I know reading comprehension on this website is non-existent, so I'll try to use small words in non-complex ways.

The USA was the first country in the world to recognize Israel as a State. Not a United State of America, an independent Nation State.

Do you know when Israel started receiving US financial aid? The late 1940's, after they recognized Israeli sovereignty.

Do you know when Israel started receiving US military aid? The 1960's. It started with Kennedy and the Raytheon Hawk Anti-Air missile system.

Do you know how many treaties, agreements, memorandums of understanding, and defense cooperation agreements the USA has with Israel? A lot. A hell of a lot.

What does this mean, you ask? It means that your country has got a shitload of bureaucracy tying your government to their government, and despite all the enthusiasm to blame "the Biden Administration" for providing the means to slaughter tens of thousands of Palestinians, invade Lebanon, and bomb Iran, well, Israel already had nearly 600 Foreign Military Sales authorized through the US Foreign Military Financing program(as of October 2023), with a ten year Memorandum of Understanding signed in 2019 and valid until 2028. This wasn't some snap decision from "sleepy Joe" to arm Israel; y'all have been doing so since before the towers fell, since before the Berlin wall fall, hell, since before the assassination of JFK.

Do you understand now, or do you need a bit more explanation?

I'm gonna assume you still don't understand.

Close to 60 years of inertia cannot be brought to an immediate halt by any President. There are far too many intelligence, military, economic, and diplomatic ties with Israel to just make it all just... go away. It ain't happening overnight. It didn't happen under Biden. It certainly ain't happening in the next four years. And you might wanna include the full context of the quote you pulled, because cherrypicking is for cowards.

riotbard wrote: surprising absolutely no one but in a contest between 99% Hitler and 100% Hitler the voters wanted full Hitler. They don’t want bargain value Hitler they want the full thing. Oh well, guess next time we’ll run 102% Hitler and see if THAT excites these ungrateful assholes. Didn’t even want Dollar Tree Hitler smh

weenie-extraordinare wrote: This looks and sounds both incredibly fucking unhelpful and terminally online. So Joe Biden and Kamala Harris aren't perfect and beautiful beings of light here to save the world from a shitty celebrity criminal. So they didn't singlehandedly tell a sovereign nation explicitly to stop committing genocide. So they didn't go far enough left for you. Okay. Instead of spending your time crying over how much everyone else in your country loves Hitlers, maybe go outside and talk to people instead of holing up online and blaming the political party that does not want to strip you of your rights for not beating the party that does want to strip you of your rights. Like, I get it, it's not a great time for America. But it could be worse, and now, it will be worse. And if you thought Joe and Kamala were Hitlers, well, just wait and see what Trump has planned for women, Palestine, and Ukraine.

Motherfuckers be like, "Do you know your history?" Better than you yankee-fucking-doodles, apparently. Thank god y'all are just screaming into an internet void instead of saying this kind of shit to people's faces. Y'all make a huge deal out of pointing the finger at your politicians, carrying on like Biden is out there personally, when it's Israel's IDF pulling triggers and slaughtering children. Yeah, the USA is selling them munitions and bombs. It's Israel that's using them. Don't get it so twisted that you're ignoring who is actually murdering the people of Palestine. And let's be real here, y'all pulled a post about "Kamala Harris is not Hitler because a nation she is not the VP of is committing genocide" and turned it into "Look at this fucking verminous approbate, he thinks the black woman isn't a hitler!" And then it kinda swung into "OF COURSE the Biden Administration was solely responsible for allowing them to bom Palestine, and not the blank check written by the US FMF(Foreign Military Financing program)." Y'all so up your own asses over your moral rectitude that you'll dogpile any motherfucker who doesn't bark how you do. Maybe write some letters to your congress, your governors, anyone who represents you, and make your opinions heard. Maybe present those opinions as staunch opposition to the Israeli genocide of Palestinians instead of trying the "Kamala Harris is 99% a Hitler" approach.

And for the record, I have opposed the Israeli occupation of Palestine since the first time I hear about it in the 90's. I still oppose it. I will continue to oppose it. The absolute carnage that is being wrought today is inexcusable. It was inexcusable from the first Nakba, through each fresh conflict, and to the present day.

Free Palestine. End the genocide.

Hey, quick question, who's killing Palestinians? Is it Israelis, or is it Americans? I'd have replied, but you have replies restricted.

September 2, 2024

You know as well as I do that Israel wouldn't have been able to commit this holocaust or invade Lebanon or bomb Iran without the enthusiastic steadfast unwavering zero-red-line ironclad support of the Biden administration. I'm not going to entertain your faux incredulity. It is transparent horseshit.

[odinsblog]

Please listen to me: You can and should be critical of American imperialism. And you should also simultaneously acknowledge Russia’s imperialism. This is a “both things can be true” situation. Hating America’s imperialism doesn’t make Russia’s imperialism any better. You guys dO get that, right?? Just because the governments of China, North Korea and Russia are America’s geopolitical adversaries, you understand that doesn’t make them “right” whenever there is a war about to break out. You get that, right? “America bad” doesn’t automatically make everyone else good.

One thing I read a lot on the left is how you don’t get to be a U.S. President without committing some war crimes and human rights abuses along the way. Well, I’m asking certain people on the left to carry out that line of thought, just a little bit further. Extrapolate: no country gets to be a world power without doing the same—certainty no Western country. And no Eastern country either. This is not me knocking communism or socialism, but if you think that China and Russia haven’t committed atrocities, then I beg you to research the what’s happening in the Uyghur community in China, or the LGBTQ community in Russia. Is America good? Hell no! Does that fact mean that Russia must be “good,” because they’re our enemies? Again, hell. fucking. no! C’mon fam. This shit isn’t that simple. Nobody’s hands are clean here.

Acknowledging that Putin and Russia are threats isn’t “propaganda” just because it might momentarily make the Biden administration look good. I don’t care about that. I care about the people on the ground who are literally staring down the Russian army. You are not being “woke” or “enlightened” by pretending that Ukraine isn’t in danger, and that even if it was, we should ignore what’s happening there because Ukrainians must surely want to rejoin Russia.

I’m making this post because I’ve already been hit with this fucked up “logic” from some now blocked followers, and yeah, it’s overly simplistic, it’s weak af, and it’s super disappointing coming from some “leftists.”

I literally had someone boastfully comment on a post that nobody cares about Ukraine—this was from a blogger who calls themselves woke. JFC! Reset the mf alarm and try waking up again.

I don’t give a shit about NATO, I don’t give a shit about Joe Biden & the Democrats, and I don’t give a shit about what Putin doesn’t want in Ukraine—Ukraine isn’t in NATO right now, is it?? Try forgetting about NATO and American echo chamber sources for two fucking minutes. If you call yourself a leftist, then at the very fucking least you shouldn’t want war. You shouldn’t be so casually fucking indifferent to people about to try to defend themselves. You shouldn’t want to see a sovereign state get invaded by a much larger aggressor. That’s at the very fucking least.

Where is your fucking heart? Where is your fucking solidarity? Where is your compassion?? Innocent people are about to start being killed—unnecessarily—and some of y’all are more worried if shit might make Biden look good?? Foreals?? GTFOH.

You can’t say the Trump supporters who tried to undo a national election were wrong, and also say Putin is in the right for rolling tanks into Ukraine to overthrow their government. Hate militarism? This is militarism. Hate imperialism? That’s exactly what tf this is. On steroids. Wrong is fucking wrong.

Ukraine did this, Ukraine did that, but then you’re going to turn around and pretend that Russia has a perfect human rights record? In some misguided attempt to show everyone your “communism” is “pure”? Please kiss my entire Black ass. Some of y’all ain’t shit.

If this whole Russian invasion thing has you somehow defending Vladimir fucking Putin, then you are really fucking lost, not left.

I stand with Ukraine. 🇺🇦

[jerseydeanne]

I wish Ukraine was a sovereign nation.

mourningtears said: Not saying it is a bastion of human rights. But if you study history you know what Putin is actually doing. History repeats. I get with this guy is trying to say but really honestly he’s a German and he’ll be the last person I listen to. Ukraine for all‘s fault is a Sovereign nation. To avoid war we are ignoring our past. In 2014 Ukraine did give up some land and look where it got them. Again I know that Ukraine is a toilet but they are a sovereign nation and don’t deserve to be annihilated. —————————————————————— Right. Ukraine is a sovereign toilet. The question is who made it that way? The answer is the US and the EU politicians. What the hell did Romney, McCain, Pelosi, Graham, Hillary and others do in Ukraine in 2013 and 2014? Demented old Joe was supposed to be fighting corruption in Ukraine while his crackhead son was sitting on the board of one of the most corrupt energy companies in Europe. Does it make any sense to anyone? The UK politicians were as much involved in Ukraine as the US ones. It rapidly lost its sovereignty under Obama. Obama promised a lot but delivered nothing. “Ukraine lost Crimea under Obama. Under Biden Ukraine lost everything.” /Trump/ He’s absolutely right. Do you really believe $40 bill. went to the Ukrainian people who lost everything in this war? Trump was impeached just for asking simple questions. The left media rushed to the rescue, labeled the Hunter laptop as Russian disinformation, and 50 US corrupt intel officials happily agreed with NYSlimes, WaPo, fake news CNN and MSDNC. But it turned out Trump was right on the money. By the way, you ever studied the Russian history, you would have known that Crimea was a part of Russia for centuries. Yes, it was foolishly given to Ukraine by one of the Soviet leaders. Putin recognized that. In 2014 all he wanted from the US and the EU was to let people vote. Of course, the Obama administration declined any discussion. When Putin actually invaded Crimea, Obama cowardly stated “Ukraine doesn’t represent the vital US interest.” 😂 Yeah, right.

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Good Morning fine people! Let's get into it!

Everyone needs to use their free speech! Debates are always welcome here.

The media has been telling tales/narratives. You must do research and more research to seek the truth.

Never go to the first pages of Google. They are only going to post very socialist views.

Notice they are all the same no matter what article you see? How did that happen? Don't we have any independent journalists? Where are the investigative reporters?

Many are on the payroll of the clowns in America. Yes, it's propaganda being pushed.

The Wizard of OZ, don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain! Stay asleep in the poppy fields.

Many people are getting rich selling out our country.

Thank you for your Anon!

Love, JD 😜💋

[yourreddancer]

Since Trump wants to abandon Ukraine completely, refusing any NATO integration, and "no longer prioritizes Ukraine's and Europe's defense", it's time europeans realize Putin IS our enemy, as much as Hitler once was.

The US just gave him the green light to invade more european countries, and there is no universe in which Ukraine's defeat will end Putin's war path, he's literally extending his army right now.

Europan leaders and countries are saying statements and donating weapons in response, and that's good, but that's forgetting citizens can also send a message.

You can donate to united24, and give a massive fuck you to Trump (and Musk), on top of actively helping Europe's defense.

Europe is not for them to hand over. Europe is not for grabs. Each European nation is sovereign, as is our Union.

Vive l'Europe, Vive l'Ukraine, and fuck Trump

[darkmaga-returns]

European Union nations are concerned about Trump’s victory, as Trump has historically opposed the NATO alliance siphoning funding from the US. Before Trump, only a handful of nations were paying their 2% of GDP obligation. World leaders are now calling for a European army, but a plan is already in place for a unified army that NATO could rapidly deploy.

Now, EU nations host multinational armies of 1,500 troops and have had them in place since 2007, yet they have never been deployed. France famously vetoed plans for a unified European army, but President Macron is now open to creating one. The Baltic nations also oppose a unified EU army as they believe it will decrease NATO’s strength. The UK once vetoed the proposal as well when they were within the bloc.

“If we do not start thinking about ways to organise our common defence, we will not be strong enough when we need to defend ourselves, or our neighbours,” voiced Polish leader Luc Frieden. Poland became the top contributor to NATO in terms of GDP after Russia invaded Ukraine.

“At the beginning, we should go ahead with a coalition of the willing. A few countries that are ready to pool their sovereign rights to be more efficient in defence.” He added, “Of course, each country will want to keep control over important decisions such as when to activate its army, when to send its soldiers to war. But it is also obvious that the current situation does not offer the level of security that we need. So, we need to start thinking about a European army.”

How could an effective military strategy be developed if each nation were acting independently? It simply would not be effective. Still, the EU is creating a Rapid Deployment Capacity (RDC) force that some are calling a “European Army.”

The first RDC exercise took place last month in Spain, with the cooperation of nine EU members and 2,800 military personnel. The EU believes that by next year, it will have 5,000 troops within the RDC who can deploy at a moment’s notice.

NATO has eight multinational brigades with 300,000 troops who could be ready for deployment within 30 days, and it has the capacity to expand to 500,000 if needed.

Trump does not want America involved in endless wars, yet he is inheriting 2.5 proxy wars.

[somethingusefulfromflorida]

I wasn’t expecting Russia to invade Ukraine until after their next election in 2024, but it looks as though things may kick off sooner rather than later.

In 2014, a pro-Russian candidate “won” a very dubious election, and the people ousted him from power. Russia subsequently invaded and annexed the Crimean peninsula under the guise of “providing military aid” to the ethnic Russians in the regions. It’s kinda like if the United States took over southern Ontario to protect Americans living abroad.

Shortly after this, pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine (Donbass) rose up against the government and have been fighting a civil war ever since. Russia hasn’t directly gotten involved in the conflict, they just give supplies and funding to the rebels; imagine if the US started selling guns and tanks to pro-American rebels along the rest of the border.

While Russia could plausibly justify annexing Crimea because it had once been part of Russia and ceded to Ukraine in the 50s, there’s no way to justify taking a big chunk of eastern Ukraine. The war in Donbass has been raging on-and-off for years; there have been dozens of ceasefires, but none of them have lasted long. Russia is now building up troops along the border, signaling their intent to actually invade and help the rebels directly. This would be an inexcusable act of open war in Europe, which NATO would not stand for. Ukraine isn’t part of NATO, so they’re not technically obligated to respond, but they’re not going to just let Russia expand its sphere of influence by taking land from a strategically significant sovereign nation.

But Putin’s not stupid. He’s not going to start a war he doesn’t think he can win. NATO can’t really do anything to stop him unless the entire alliance commits to it, and there are at least three major obstructionists; the US, the UK, and Turkey (together the three largest militaries in NATO).

American foreign policy is all over the place, flipping back and forth depending on which political party controls the presidency; under Trump, the US would not only have allowed a Russian invasion, they would have encouraged it. Under Biden, he’ll take a more hardline stance (“hardline,” which like Obama in 2014 means sanctions and a strongly worded letter). Congress won’t want America to get involved in another foreign war; Republicans support Russia, and Democrats support Ukraine, but neither side will sign off on American interference because there’s no oil to be had. We’ll fuck around in the Middle East, sure, but Ukraine? Not gonna happen. And we’re so close to leaving Afghanistan, the longest war in American history, there’s no way Biden could commit troops to another war so soon after this one; it would be political suicide, even if it would help the Ukrainians.

UK foreign policy largely shadows the US, though the Conservative party (analogous to American Republicans) are staunchly Eurosceptic. They want to distance themselves from the continent as much as possible; they left the EU and will almost certainly try to leave NATO if the only other alternative is going up against Russia in a proxy war. Trump wanted to withdraw the US from NATO, and if some other Republican president follows through on this threat in the future, the UK will absolutely follow suit.

Turkey is backsliding towards authoritarianism; Erdogan was democratically elected, but has hijacked the executive branch to consolidate power and become a new Ottoman Emperor. Turkey is the second largest military in NATO behind the United States, and in recent years has been becoming closer to Russia then the rest of Europe. Erdogan and Putin are, for the moment, buddy-buddy; kindred dictatorial spirits. Turkey will likely withdraw from NATO to side with Russia in the Ukrainian conflict because they control the only straits connecting the Black Sea with the Mediterranean. Russia needs to be in Turkey’s good graces or else they’ll be landlocked (save for Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg, but we’ll get to them later). Like Hitler and Stalin, they have an uneasy truce of convenience, but will almost certainly turn on each other later.

Putin has a blank check to do whatever he wants in Ukraine because Western Europe doesn’t want to start another Cold War. I thought for sure Russia would wait until 2024, then call the results of the election fraudulent as pretext for invasion. They very well still may, but given the troop buildup it’s possible the rebels are going to be getting a lot more support in the coming months.

And don’t even get me started on Belarus. Right now, there’s no indication that Belarus is involved with the Ukrainian situation, but the second they back Putin, it’s all over for Ukraine. Ukraine borders Russia to the east, and Belarus to the north; Kiev is within striking distance of the Ukraine-Belarus border, so if Belarus sided with Russia, then Russia could march troops directly on the Ukrainian capital, toppling the government and turning it into a pro-Russian satellite puppet. Belarus has been run by the same dictator ever since becoming independent from Russia in 1991, and the two countries share close personal ties, having joined the Union State in 1999. The Union State is a pact of Russian-Belarusian brotherhood, calling for economic and military unification.

Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan in Central Asia want to join the Union too, as does Moldova in Europe.

That said, the Belarusian dictator is a hardcore nationalist who wants to maintain independence from Russia rather than be annexed. He wouldn’t just let Russian troops occupy his country and march on Kiev; it would be like Belgium during the World Wars, with Germany (Russia) using them as a stepping stone to take France (Ukraine). We need to watch Belarus carefully to see how they respond to Russian interference. If they stand back and let it happen, Ukraine will fall without a fight, but if they try to maintain independence then it will trigger a full blown European war (quite possibly a prelude to WWIII)

Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are part of NATO, so Russia can’t touch them without inviting total war. But do you notice that purple spot between Lithuania and Poland? That’s Kaliningrad, and though separated from the rest of the country, it’s part of Russia. Just north of Estonia, off the map, is St Petersburg, which along with Kaliningrad represent Russia’s only two port cities in the Baltic Sea. They both freeze over in the winter, rendering them unusable, which is why Russia cared so much about taking Crimea with its warm water ports in the Black Sea.

If Turkey and the UK and the US were to leave NATO, the entire alliance would pretty much collapse, giving Russia another blank check to do whatever they want with Eastern Europe. If Russia annexes Belarus, they could very likely annex Lithuania to reconnect Kaliningrad with the rest of the country.

The closest thing to a super power Europe has that could butt heads with Russia is Germany, but they’re dealing with their own internal struggles right now; the Alternative For Germany party (neo-Nazi party) is the fastest growing party in their parliament, and though they have nowhere near a majority it’s terrifying to think they could assert influence over the other right-wing parties and form coalition governments.

This is all just rampant speculation; Putin knows more than I do, he’s not an idiot, and I don’t claim to understand the inner machinations of the Red Army, but I can see the writing on the walls. There may not be a direct war, but whatever the conflict, it will look very similar to the events posited above.

In the unlikely event that Russia marches on Kiev, the Ukrainian government may fall back to a national redoubt (secondary capital) in the west, perhaps near Lviv or in the Carpathian Mountains along the border with Romania. If this happens, I could see Ukraine being split in two like Korea or Germany; East and West Ukraine, though both sides would claim sovereignty over the entire country.