#trump hush money conviction

[littleapocalypsekitten]

Okay, there is something I've wanted to get off my chest for a few days now... and my therapist has already heard it all. Warning: This is political. Warning: This will unveil a part of the Shadsie Lore that may make some of you unfollow me or even block me. I do not care. I thought "I shouldn't talk about this on the Internet, even on a place unconnected to my real name" until this article just slapped me in the face and told me that I needed to talk about it:

Ex-Felons Responding to the Trump Verdict I spent a chunk of my high school years visiting my brother in prison, where he served just shy of 4 years for an incident that he is lucky to have survived - he's white, he was arrested by sleepy-desert-town country cops who like the guards of Whiterun in Skyrim mostly deal with drunken brawls and petty thievery and weren't as trigger-happy as the city-cops. Knowing his stories, I know that the American prison system needs reformation badly, as it doesn't rehabilitate people so much as just give them a lot of trauma and, in some cases, makes them worse. And then... came time... Crime Time... for me. *Sad, scared little squeak talking about this.*

So, I did something that I am not proud of damn near 20 years ago. I will not elaborate save to say that: 1. A single felony and associated misdemeanours 2. No one was (physically) harmed 3. It was related to my mental health and how I got a diagnosis. 4. I served no time. 5. I was railroaded into a plea deal - I was contrite and fully confessed to the misdemeanours, but thought that the more serious charge that the DA wanted to pin on me was going overboard. 6. I felt like I couldn't win if it went to trial with only a public defender in my corner and so pleaded to the greater charge in exchange for serving probation. 7. I served 2 years of probation and it amuses me to this day that they gave me an officer who was pregnant. She had to give me over to another officer when she went to have her baby. I asked how she and the baby were and like to joke that I must have been one of the county's nicest criminals for them to give me a probation officer in a delicate condition. 8. This happened almost 20 years ago and it messes up my life to this day. It kept me from getting a job I wanted. (Thankfully I recently got a job with a company that doesn't look further than 7 years back). 9. Having had my record brought to my attention, I researched pardoning and gathered materials and sent off a package to petition my governor. At the speed of bureaucracy I expect to hear back about the initial filing process, let alone getting a hearing, *looks at watch and taps foot* oh, about when Pangea Ultima forms and the world has been taken over by the descendants of squids. Anyway, I've had mixed feelings all this week. On one hand, I'm elated - for once, the GREASED HOG HAS BEEN CAUGHT ON SOMETHING! Always nice to see the rich and powerful get some kind of censure, if not full justice. On the other hand, I see a lot of people online talking about felons not having rights and not having dignity and so forth - you know, the stigmas. Personally, I am never going to run for President, I do not think I would do well with a position of power and have no desire for it. In fact, I am skeptical of the morals of anyone who wants a lot of power. I am an anxious type who'd constantly worry about messing up people's lives on accident. I certainly could not do the President-thing of ordering war-actions (because my personal hero is Vash the Stampede... "thou shall not kill"). And, despite my favorite anime being Trigun and my love of playing Fallout... I don't want anything to do with guns in real life, so no worries on the gun-ownership thing. I live in a state that allows ex-felons to vote so long as they've served their time/probation. I may want to move to a state in the future where I am not sure that is allowed to be with family (One of my reasons for seeking a pardon). Between my brother and me, I am VERY concerned with the human rights and civil rights of repentant ex-cons and of those people in the prison / legal system. That said: Mr. Trump is NOT "one of us." He is a rich (or at least bluffs his way) and powerful and is being treated with the softest of kid gloves. (If I had pulled the threats and outbursts that he had in the courtroom during my hearings, I would have been jailed). I was silent, spoke only when spoken to. He'll never want for a job or money as even if he's more broke than he lets on, he has his slathering minions who send him millions of dollars in a day. He'll never have to rely on a public defender (as passionate and dedicated as they are, they are overloaded and not well listened to in the court system) - he'll always have excellent monied lawyers. I enjoy the HELL out of the idea that he's going to have a probation officer, but I do not think it will humble him. Covid, after all, didn't give him the impression of being a mere mortal man. If anything, this trial, even this conviction, highlights the disparities in the American legal system for me.

[strawlessandbraless]

Convicted felon, Donald Trump is legally banned from entering these countries, how can he possibly serve as President of the United States?

🇬🇧 UK

🇮🇱 Israel

🇨🇦 Canada

🇨🇺 Cuba

🇨🇳 China

🇯🇵 Japan

🇮🇷 Iran

🇮🇳 India

🇦🇺 Australia

🇳🇿 New Zealand

🇹🇼 Taiwan

🇿🇦 South Africa

🇲🇽 Mexico

🇰🇷 South Korea

🇧🇷 Brazil

🇮🇪 Ireland

[reasonsforhope]

Former President Donald Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies by the jury in his "hush money" trial in New York on Thursday, making him the first former president in U.S. history to be convicted of a crime.

The jury, composed of 12 Manhattan residents, found that Trump illegally falsified business records to cover up a $130,000 payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election. They found him guilty on all counts on their second day of deliberations.

The presumptive Republican nominee for president is now also a convicted felon, a label that could reverberate across the electorate in the months between now and Election Day in November.

The verdict was handed down in the same Manhattan courtroom where Trump has been on trial for the past six weeks. Trump stared at each juror as they confirmed their vote to convict and angrily denounced the decision in the hallway outside the courtroom, vowing to fight the conviction.

Jurors sided with prosecutors who said that Trump authorized the plan to falsify checks and related records in an effort to prevent voters from learning of an alleged sexual encounter with Daniels. Prosecutors from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office said the conspiracy spanned his 2016 campaign and continued well into his first year in the White House. Trump denied having sex with Daniels and pleaded not guilty.

Justice Juan Merchan set a sentencing date of July 11, just four days before the start of the Republican National Convention, where Trump will be formally nominated as the party's standard-bearer. He could face up to four years in prison and a $5,000 fine for each count, but Merchan has broad discretion when imposing a sentence, and could limit the punishment to a fine, probation, home confinement or other options...

The Biden campaign warned that former Trump's conviction doesn't prevent him from winning another term in the White House from a legal standpoint. 

"There is still only one way to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office: at the ballot box. Convicted felon or not, Trump will be the Republican nominee for president," the campaign's communications director Michael Tyler said in a statement.

-via CBS News, May 30, 2024. Live updates: 7:36 pm, 7:23 pm Eastern Time

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Note: Even if Trump gets reelected, he cannot pardon himself in this case, because this is a state-level conviction. The president can only pardon people convicted of federal crimes, not people convicted by the states. (x, x)

[my-midlife-crisis]

[aunti-christ-ine]

[tomorrowusa]

« Trump has always mistakenly believed he would never face consequences for breaking the law for his own personal gain. But today’s verdict does not change the fact that the American people face a simple reality. There is still only one way to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office: at the ballot box. Convicted felon or not, Trump will be the Republican nominee for president. »

— Michael Tyler, communications director for the Biden-Harris campaign, at POLITICO.

A small number of independent voters may drop Trump from consideration but we should not count on that to keep the Orange Felon from winning. Trump won in 2016 despite the Access Hollywood tape; don't depend on non-electoral events to deliver us from Trump.

It's up to us to register and vote and make sure that like minded people do so as well.

I Will Vote

[somethingusefulfromflorida]

So, Donald Trump will almost certainly be a convicted felon next week. Will it change anything? Almost certainly NOT! However many charges he's convicted on—it won't be all 34, but it'll be more than 1—he'll get the leanest sentences and they'll be concurrent rather than consecutive. I see him being getting three to six months of prison time, MAX, and the clock will start ticking while he's still going through the appeals process, desperately trying to get the New York Supreme Court or SCOTUS involved just to drag things out as long as possible; by the time the conviction finally lands, a large chunk of the sentence will have elapsed already as time served. And even if he can't throw up any roadblocks, he'll serve AT MOST a month in a minimum security white collar hotel that allows him to leave the premises for campaign rallies before being released. The real meat-and-potatoes indictments are both federal, but the Florida documents case is being thrown out by a judge he appointed and the DC January 6 case is almost certainly going to be stopped by SCOTUS declaring him to have been above the law at the time (but carving his behavior out as a hyper-specific exception so that no precedent is set for Joe Biden to try the same thing in 2025). I see no scenario where Trump goes down in flames this summer. Unless he has a stroke and dies, this New York hush money case will be nothing more than a bump in the road. Then only interesting thing would be if he refused to report to New York for his sentence, hunkering down in Florida and daring them to try and get him; that'll never happen, but if it did DeSantis would protect him and New York police would refuse to cross state lines to hunt him down, saying they have no jurisdiction when Hochul tried to mobilize them, and Joe Biden would refuse to call in the fed troops because he'd be afraid of the optics of having his political rival arrested even though he'd be a convicted felon who was resisting arrest. Nah. Nope. No matter how unprecedented this whole ordeal is, I see things taking the path of least resistance, which happens to be whatever Donald Trump's lawyers want it to be...

[sher-ee]

Breaking it down.

[strawlessandbraless]

Genuinely forgot November 5th was the US Presidential Election and was like ya Don, Destiel is the only thing that can save us

[ID: A tweet from @/DonaldJTrumpJr reading: Guilty on all counts. The Democrats have succeeded in their years long attempt to turn America into a third-world shithole. November 5 is our last chance to save it. /End ID]

ID by @diamond-rings-and-gutter-bones

[reasoningdaily]

How will Trump's verdict in New York impact his Georgia case?

This is a whole ass question and we are all waiting to find out How will Trump's verdict in New York impact his Georgia case?  because surely there has to be some bearing knowing that he has been convicted of the same type of crimes in ny. lets keep our fingers crossed and our eyes on Fani, cause she’s up next

[geezerwench]

Convicted on Covfefe Day.

The universe has an interesting sense of humor.

[sometimesboffosometimesnot]

Trump is a felon its official

[tomorrowusa]

LOCK HIM UP!!!

Donald Trump is now officially a convicted felon. He's already been officially an asshole for 60 years.

Donald Trump found guilty of hush-money plot to influence 2016 election

Trump gets owned by a dozen New Yorkers.