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sanders sides beach episode when
#YES its april NO i dont care!!!! summer is a state of mind!!!!#i dont actually like summer all that much i am chronically overheated#but l like swimming n stuff#my favorite way of drawing#is just refusing to do lineart#and taking the sketch and just. cleaning it up until its good enough#and using that#bc anytime i do lineart normally i fucking hate it#dont tag this as genderbend#theyr just trans#STILL struggling with my patton design#i also really struggled w logans fit so. ignore how lazy it is#roman sanders#patton sanders#logan sanders#virgil sanders#janus sanders#remus sanders#sanders sides#thomas sanders#sasi#thomas sanders sides#sasi art#sanders sides art#tss fanart#tss#ts sides#art#my art
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Patton with his dark strange son <33
here's one without the trans flag (in case you don't share this headcanon with me)
#sanders sides#patton sanders#virgil sanders#me doing art#yes virgil is trans bcuz I say so#they have my heart <33#(you could see this as moxiety too. idrc)#(i mean to me their relationship is more like father/son but I don't mind the ship)
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What the Cat Dragged In
Being a parent is hard. Sometimes kids ask hard questions and sometimes parents panic and tell absurd lies that ultimately lead to their kids punching someone at school for calling them stupid after jumping to a decently reasonable conclusion based on said lie. Logan is at least there to support Janus through the ordeal and help clear things up a little for Virgil.
"Hello, Roman," Logan answered the phone, already weary to see the call coming from Roman's personal number instead of the school's.
"Heeeyyyy."
"What happened?"
"Virgil's fine," Roman replied with enough forced casualness to make Logan pinch the bridge of his nose. "Everything's been taken care of, it's all been settled, absolutely nothing to worry about, but, um. Well, he sort of punched someone today. Um. While I was getting the kids started on their projects."
Logan blinked. "I-I'm sorry. What happened?"
"Um. Virgil punched another student," Roman said again. "I mean, between you and me, I think he had it coming because he's been a, uh, bit of bully to literally everyone here, and I do mean everyone-"
Logan sighed and rubbed his forehead. "Roman-"
"No, it's okay, he didn't, like, draw blood or anything, the principal already called the other kid's parents, no fire there, everything is totally fine in that area, um, Virgil was pretty upset at first-"
"Obviously, he punched someone," Logan rolled his eyes. "Do you know why?"
"Uh, yes. So I was giving the kids back their trinket dishes we've been working on so they could check them over, make sure they didn't want to change anything and one of the kids saw that Virgil's had 'Artemis' written in it and he asked about it, then Virgil told him it was a gift for her. The other kid then told him that Artemis and all the other gods weren't real and called him and you and Janus stupid. And said that you lied to him, so Virgil punched him."
Logan sighed. "Okay, well, I just got off and I'm coming to pick him up now. Is he okay?"
"Oh yeah," Roman assured. "We went to one of the Calm Spaces talked for a little while once he felt ready to do that, um. Frankly, I didn't understand it all, um... Apparently the dish is because he wants to ask Artemis for a brother? Which...I-I don't know. But just so you have that heads up because, like, I don't know...what all he knows, um. But I guess he think he was brought to you by cats? Which I thought was Freyja's thing, but he swears it's Artemis's. But, you know. There's that."
Logan groaned and massaged his forehead. "Well, thank you for taking care of him. And for giving me a heads up. I'll be there soon."
"Drive safe!" Roman chirped.
Logan hung up and for a moment sat in the car rubbing his forehead and trying to recall if Virgil had mentioned anything specifically about Artemis recently that might have caused all of this. He sighed as he turned the car on and began pulling out of the parking lot; while he'd often spoken to Virgil about the existence of the gods, he'd never once brought up that Virgil needed to do anything about it. He was only six, after all. And really what he shared was simply because of Virgil's curiosity and his not hiding his beliefs from him.
Sure, Logan has his own little alter in the apartment where he placed offerings and whatnot, but aside from Virgil asking if he could give dandelions to whichever deity he happened to remember the name of that day, he'd never brought up the idea to him.
He shook his head as his hand drifted to the necklace tucked into his shirt and briefly closed around the snake pendant there, half wondering if this was Loki's idea on getting him to learn to embrace chaos.
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"Hey, munchkin," Roman crouched beside Virgil. "Dad's on his way now. Are you sure you don't want me to put your dish up somewhere safe?"
Virgil shook his head and continued to hold the packed trinket dish to his chest with one arm while he munched on his apple slices with the other. "No thanks."
Roman nodded. "Alright. The rest of the kids are going to move to the library after this for games and reading. Do you want to go with them or hang out with me till Dad gets here?"
Virgil paused. "I think I wanna stay with you today."
"That's totally okay," Roman assured and ruffled Virgil's hair. "I'm going to finish wrapping up everyone's dishes, okay?" He slid onto the bench across from Virgil and set to work.
"Uncle Roman?"
"Yeah, stormcloud?" Roman half glanced up from the dish he was folding up in newspaper.
"Do babies really not come from cats?"
Roman let out a breath. "Uh, well, honestly...babies come to their parents in a lot of different ways. And sometimes people aren't even babies when they meet the family that's going to raise them."
"Really?" Virgil questioned, clearly surprised.
"Well, sure," Roman shrugged. "Batman adopted Robin when he was eight years old. That's two whole years older than you are now!"
"I know Bruce Wayne is Batman, Uncle Roman," Virgil rolled his eyes.
"You're right. Bruce Wayne adopted Dick Grayson when he was eight years old," Roman snickered. He double checked the name carved into the bottom of the dish before taping it off and writing the name on the paper while Virgil munched thoughtfully on his apples.
"Uncle Roman?"
"Yes, Virgil?"
"You have a mom, right?"
"Yeah, buddy. Your dad is my brother so we have the same mom, remember?"
Virgil squinted at the wall. "And Bobby has a mom."
Roman froze, hand mid air as he reached for another dish, dreading where the conversation was going. "Yeah, that's right."
"And moms are where babies come from."
"...More or less," Roman agreed, willing Logan to come pick up his kid and put him out of his misery already. "Usually, yeah. Something like that."
Virgil nodded, apparently pleased with this confirmation. "I thought so," he said and took a bite from his last apple slice.
Roman blinked. "Is that...it?"
"Mh-mn," Virgil nodded.
"O-okay. Um. Glad I could clear that up for you."
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"Hey, gremlin, your dad is here," Roman announced.
Virgil glanced up from his color page and squinted at Roman. "You told him not get me in trouble on the phone, right?"
Roman snickered. "Yes, I told him that everything was taken care of and not to worry about that, and you know not to punch people anymore, right?"
"Yeah," Virgil sighed and rolled his eyes.
"Okay, let's head up front to meet your dad."
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"Hey, sunshine," Logan greeted his child, who came barreling into him, and kissed the top of his head. "You okay?"
"Uh-huh. Uncle Roman helped me feel better."
"I'm glad he was there to help you. Do you have all your stuff?"
"Uh-huh. Can Uncle Roman come home with us? I wanna show him where my stuff dish for Artemis is gonna go."
"I know you're excited about that, but I don't think Uncle Roman is done working yet."
"But school is all done and he's a teacher," Virgil objected.
"You're right, school is over now. But you stayed after school for a little while, right? Well, teachers usually have to stay even more after school to make sure everything is ready for the next day," Logan explained.
"That's boring and tired," Virgil announced.
"You're right, it is," Roman agreed and ruffled Virgil's hair. "I'll come over later and see it. Besides you still have your bobby to share it with, remember?"
"Oh yeah! We gotta go, Daddy! Bye, Uncle Roman!"
"I'll see you tomorrow, Virge." Roman clapped Logan on the shoulder. "Good luck."
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Logan hoisted Virgil onto his hip in front of the long shelf that functioned as his covert alter and Virgil gently set down the trinket dish.
"What do you think? Do you like it there?"
Virgil nodded. "Do you think Lady Artemis will like it too?"
"Y'know, sweetheart, I have found that when we give gifts thoughtfully and sincerely, that makes the gods happier than anything. I'm sure she'll love it." He kissed Virgil's cheek and set him on the ground again. "Is it okay if I ask what made you want to give her a gift specifically?"
"Well, you told me that she likes cats and they're her hunting helpers and Bobby said that cats brought me here and I thought that maybe they were her hunter helpers that found me as a baby and brought me here cause you said she likes babies too and tries to help them too. So I wanted to make her a special gift so maybe next time she found a baby her hunter cats could bring him here too and I could have a brother. Like a trade."
Logan blinked. "Bobby said what?"
"He said that cats brought me here and that's why people say 'look what the cat dragged in' cause cats dragged me in and it was so surprising that people started saying it about other people too."
"Oookay..." Logan rubbed his face, briefly pushing his glasses up onto his forehead. He let out a breath and readjusted the frames. "I see why Uncle Roman was confused now. Um. I...will let you know when Bobby comes home so you can show him your dish, because I know that's very important to you. Um. But for now....I- You can play in your room for a little while and after you show Bobby your dish and tell him how special it is we can work on your homework. Sound good?"
Virgil squinted up at his dad. "Are you sure?"
"I'm sure. But I probably will talk to Bobby for a little while first because, um, I'm also confused about something and I think he can help me be...less confused. I hope. Um." He rubbed his forehead. "Yeah, I- Hoo... I have so many questions for your bobby. But I will absolutely make sure that you get to talk to him. Okay?"
Virgil continued to squint suspiciously, but nodded. "Okay, if you say so."
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"Hey, Janus-"
"Oh hey, babe!" Janus smiled brightly to be greeted at the door by his husband and gave him a quick kiss on the cheek.
"Hi," Logan smiled patiently. "I- I love you, I do. I love you so much and I recognize that you just got home and, um, you work in a pharmacy and that- that's a customer service job and I get that, but I-I need to ask you something."
Janus frowned. "Yeah, what's wrong?"
"Did you tell Virgil he was delivered to us by cats?"
Janus's eyes went wide. "Ah." He scratched behind one ear. "I...may have said something similar. Yeah. Why?"
"I'm going to show you something and in a few minutes when I bring Virgil in you are going to pretend not to have seen this." He carefully pulled the dish from the shelf and held it up, pointing at the name carved into the center. "This is a trinket dish Virgil made in after school. He made it for Lady Artemis as an offering so her cats, which he assumed brought him here because of what you told him, would bring him a brother."
"Whoops."
"Cats, Janus?" Logan demanded and replaced the dish. "Couldn't you have at least gone with something traditional like storks?"
"Would that actually be less upsetting to you?"
"I don't know at this point, honestly. All I know is that Virgil punched a kid today because he was explaining why he made that for Lady Artemis to Roman and some kid told him she wasn't real and Virgil was stupid and I was lying to him."
"...I don't know how you want me to respond to that." Janus grimaced.
Logan rolled his eyes. "We are not encouraging violence, Janus."
"I'm just saying, I bet the kid's gonna leave him alone now. And I mean, you've said yourself even Aphrodite is a war goddess."
"Janus..." Logan sighed and rubbed his forehead.
"Okay, I'm sorry," he held up his hands. "How can I fix this?"
"We have to tell him the truth," Logan shrugged. "We were always going to have to tell him, I just...wish you hadn't told him something that ridiculous."
"I panicked! And then I kind of assumed he'd forget."
Logan arched a brow. "It's Virgil."
"Yeah, I should have known better," Janus admitted. "I am sorry."
"I know," Logan sighed. "I just- cats? Really?"
"You're not going to let that go, are you?"
"No. I'm not. It's so out of pocket!"
"You're literally a polytheist and there are literally two goddess you've talked about being over similar domains of fertility and childbirth with cats for their sacred animals, I don't think it's that far out there," Janus deadpanned. "I realize that's not a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."
"You're lucky I love you," Logan grumbled.
Janus snaked his arms around Logan's shoulders. "How lucky?" He asked coyly and stole a kiss.
Logan smiled and slid his arms around Janus's waist, pulling him slightly closer. "You really think you can cute your way out of this?"
"I mean, it's worth a try, right?"
"I don't think it is," Logan shook his head. He kissed Janus again anyway. "We need to figure out how we're going to explain this."
"I mean, he knows what adoption is. Remus took care of that by rewatching Batman the Animated Series with him. We can just use that. He doesn't exactly need to know about the surrogate thing right now, does he?"
"We can't lie to him again, Janus," Logan answered. "That wouldn't be fair to him. What would we tell him later? That we lied about adopting him because it was the easier than explaining the truth when he was lied to?"
"I guess you're right," Janus murmured and pulled his arms back, folding them over his stomach.
Logan sighed and slid his hands up to Janus' biceps. "We don't have to explain your medical history to him, but…I do think we need to tell him the truth about using a surrogate. Better that then having to rehash all this when he's older. He may not appreciate our honesty now, but he will when he's older."
Janus nodded and rubbed his face. "You're right. I know you're I just…"
"It hurts," Logan filled in. "I know. It's okay if you don't feel up to being in on the conversation-"
"No. No, I was the one who lied to him, I should be the one to talk to him."
Logan gently took Janus by the face and kissed his forehead. "I'll be with you the whole time."
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Janus knocked on the door frame to Virgil room. "Hey, sweetheart, Daddy said you had something you wanted to show me."
"Bobby!" Virgil popped up from his pile of legos and ran with open arms to his bobby.
Janus smiled and scooped him up, kissing his cheek. "Hello, little love. Did you have a good day at school?"
"Well, I did during school time. After school time I got in trouble for hitting," Virgil admitted.
Janus held back a snicker. "I appreciate your honesty. Daddy let my know one the other students had said some pretty mean things to you."
"Yeah. It made the angry feeling too big and it came out my arm."
"The angry feelings tend to do that," Janus nodded sagely.
"Yeah, they almost came out of my mouth too cause I wanted to call him mean names back, but instead it came out of my eyes and made me cry."
"I want to call people mean names when they hurt my feelings too. I'm proud of you for not doing that. It can be really hard to do."
"Yeah," Virgil sighed heavily, sound far too world weary for his six years. "Specially when the mean names are true."
This time Janus did snort. "Honey-"
"It's true!" Virgil objected.
"I know, sweetie. I didn't mean to laugh, I'm sorry. Would you like to show me what you made now?"
"Yeah!" Virgil quickly squirmed out of Janus’s arms and dragged him by the hand to the little altar. "It's up there!" He pointed then held up his arms. "Can you help me reach?"
Janus snickered and picked him up again, standing close to the shelf for Virgil to reach. Once he'd pulled the little dish from its place Janus carried Virgil to the couch and sat with the boy on his lap next to Logan. "Alright, tell me aaaalll about it."
"It's a stuff dish. We made them out of clay that didn't need to be cooked cause the school doesn't have a clay oven thing. I painted mine so it looks like stars for Artemis so her could maybe bring me a brother with her hunter cats. That's why her name is on the inside so she knows it's for her. Does that make sense? Daddy and Uncle Roman said they were confused when I told them."
"You know, sweetie, I think it's my fault they got confused," Janus told him.
Virgil's little face scrunched in confused. "You didn't even tell them things."
"No, but I told you something. Remember when you asked where you came from and I told you cats dragged you here?"
"Uh-huh."
"Well…that…wasn't really true. It wasn't fair of me to lie to you and I am very sorry I did, Virgil. I wasn't expecting you to ask about how you came to us and I panicked a little."
"But how did you find me then?" Virgil asked curiously, apparently unbothered by Janus's admission.
Logan squeezed Janus’s hand.
"Your Aunt Minerva helped," Janus told him. "You remember when your cousin Emile was born and Aunt Minerva's tummy grew and Daddy explained that babies grow inside some people till they're ready to be born? Well, Daddy and I can't really do that. So we went to the doctor's and they took some special cells from me and Daddy and made sure they were safe in Aunt Minerva's body and then when you were ready to be born we all went to the hospital together and you came home to live with us."
"Ohhh. Does that mean hers is my mommy and my auntie?"
"There is a special word for when someone helps a couple have a baby called a surrogate mother," Logan explained. "But she's not exactly your mommy."
"So it wasn't hunter cats?"
"No, sweetheart."
"Oh. Does that mean Artemis isn't my mommy either?"
Logan blinked in confusion. "What?"
"Uncle Roman says babies come from moms and if I didn't really come from Lady Artemis with her hunter cats that makes her not my mommy."
"Not-" Logan sighed. "She didn't literally send you to us with her cats, but I do believe she heard me praying for a baby and maybe she helped make sure that you grew safely and were born safely. She may not be your mom in a literal sense, but it's okay if you think of her like a mom."
Virgil nodded sagely. "I like that idea. Do you think she could send me a brother the regular way still?"
"I think that's probably something your bobby and I need to talk about first. We want to make sure we can take care of you and any other kids we might have. It doesn't usually happen really fast. I don't want you to think that just because you don't get a brother right away that that means Lady Artemis didn't like your gift, alright? I'm sure she likes it very much, this type of thing just takes a long time."
Virgil nodded. "That makes sense," he said seriously. "It took a long time for Emi to be borned. Do you think she could send me a hunter cat instead? Or maybe just a regular cat?"
Logan coughed a little to hide his laughed. "It never hurts to ask."
"I'm gonna go draw picture of the hunter cats so I can ask for one," Virgil decided and squiggled off of Janus’s lap then scampered off.
"I'm incredibly proud of you," Logan said once they were alone, squeezing both of Janus’s hands tightly.
Janus mustered up a smile for him. "Thanks."
"Are you okay?"
Janus let out a shaky breath and nodded. "I will be."
#sanders sides#sanders sides fic#sanders sides au#logan sanders#virgil sanders#janus sanders#roman sanders#trans!janus#intersex!janus#kid!virgil#pagan!logan#loceit
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Human au:
Virgil (age 12, nervous): And uh…yeah… you’re my closest friend so I thought I’d tell you that I’m trans….I want to go by Virgil now.
Logan (age 11): oh cool. Like Sanji from One Piece.
#sanders sides#virgil sanders#logan sanders#sanders sides au#tss human au#platonic analogical#one piece reference#Logan has a trans parent in this au but I think this is funnier#my post#analogical#this is meant to be platonic but you can interpret it however
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Small rant:
One of the most frustrating things about being transmasc is the infantilization. I'm below 25yrs of age, and pre-everything. Everyone older than me talks down to me, half my peers do as well, I'm kind of tall but even so, everyone who's said something about it has said I'm like a kid or younger sibling to them. 90% of appearance compliments are that I'm "cute" even from all the folk that genuinely support me as trans. I'm everyone's sweet baby boy and tbh I'm sick of it. It's not that I think I'm big and scary, or super super charismatic, I'm just a guy and I want to be treated like one. It makes it hard to want to show my (very copious) delight and affection towards the world when it's met with an example of equivellent of "awww you have such a cute button nose!!"
#i'm going to bite someone if this goes on much longer#it's exhausting#I'm trying to have confidence here#it doesn't help that most of the people that call me cute also disregard me as an adult#goddamn babyface#rant#rant post#transmasc#trans man#transgender#🌇#🌑#virgil appears briefly#idk why I'm so angry about this suddenly but it's been true for a long ass time#trying to sleep and suddenly taken with wrath#oh I remember now#i was thinking about skincare#i really need to start using a moisturiser for my face but I'vr hesitated for a long time#because I didn't want good skin to make me look even *more* femenine#screaming
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I could not resist another order!
I would love a small macciato with all the syrups (omit to barista's taste or if something has run out) with a drizzle of olive oil or coconut shavings. (Time travel story featuring all the Sides either as crack or crack taken seriously.)
Comments are from @thevioletcobra's delightful Ghosts (but Sanders Sides) archiveofourown.org/works/57871099/chapters/147304492 and Sanders Sides One-shots archiveofourown.org/works/57111421/chapters/145255087
Order up!
Memoirs, Camera, Action by @lighthousechronicles
#sanders sides#the sleepy bean fanfic cafe#logan sanders#patton sanders#virgil sanders#roman sanders#remus sanders#janus sanders#Logince#ts human au#time travel#crack treated seriously#Trans Male Roman
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hey I probably have some enby Virgil/enby Sides fics bookmarked, if you want some recommendations
also, concept: Virgil coming out as genderqueer prompts the other Sides to do the same, and this gives c!Thomas a gender crisis on top of all his other issues
!! :D yes please!!!!
Also yeah absolutely, when I was thinking about how Virgil would reveal it I think their reason for not coming out earlier would be something like "dude your life is in shambles right now I was planning to say it later so you don't have another thing to keep you up at night"
#sanders sides#virgil sanders#patton is definitely trans#source: his christmas sweater#(/hj)#patton sanders#c!thomas#character!thomas#nb!virgil#enby!virgil#non binary!virgil#trans!patton
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there's nothing like making out sloppy style with your sworn hated enemy! love wins, I guess???
Trace (on left + the yandere) belongs to me, Virgil (on right) belongs to @endlessoak!
#the hunt for love#thfl#thfl trace#thfl virgil#virgil fitzroy#oakie oc#yandere#male yandere#male yandere oc#yandere boy#trans yandere#trans male yandere#trace thfl
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Feeling so much euphoria with this Virgil Sanders ass hair cut 💕
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The man! The myth!! The legend!!!
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✨non binary Virgil ✨
#sanders sides#virgil sanders#ts virgil#trans#non binary#headcannon#also happy trans visibility day!
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Just wanted to sketch some Gymrat!Virgil with very very obvious allusions to her/his relationship with Remus.
'cause Dukexiety brainrot, m' dudes.
#pixel spill#sanders sides#virgil sanders#remus sanders#dukexiety#gymrat au#(loosely related to fic i'm writing where vi questions and pokes around the gender thing)#(vi gets different areas of insight/support from the known fellow trans members of the crew - lo + jan + rem)#(correspondingly - basically all six of them have some himbo/bimbo/thembo energy man)
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“can my uterus not cramp i have he/him in my bio”
#virgil hawkins#static#static shock#dc comics#milestone comics#fanart#crypted creations#doodles#yeah hes trans. and what about it? deal with it.
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Virgil Finlay “The Trans-Human” Science-Fiction Plus interior illustration (1953) Source
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*materializes into existence*
I've been inspired by 👑 anon talkin' about trans!Virgil, and so I present to you... transfemme!Remus.
This is all in a highschool au setting bc Brainrot (lol).
Remus, who keeps her name but usually goes by "Re" or "Rem" bc well her closest friends and her brother call her that anyway. Rem that's like "gender is a fuckin' puddle on the damn floor, it spilled and it's sticky and it get fuckin' everywhere like juice and glitter" and dresses whatever fuckin' way they want to (which can be inconsistent styles). Rem who feels she/they is the best fit for them. Rem who has a very supportive twin brother, and Roman's first question when she came out to him was "Can I still call you Re?" and Rem was like "yeah :,)" and thus some happy tears from Rem because, oh hey my brother's really there for me oh oh okay, akdjasdasjd.
Rem who has a very supportive and chill-about-gender-because-screw-gender-roles type of boyfriend.
Virgil is that boyfriend who gives a death glare to anyone who even looks like they're about to be mean to his partner about her being trans. He went on anxious autopilot once when Rem wasn't feeling well and asked them if they needed period stuff. It took both of them a second to be like "wait" and they laughed about it bc Rem doesn't get periods nor have they ever gotten them. Virgil is that boyfriend who sees Rem in literally anything and gets this lil awkward blush. His joyfriend is pretty and he is very queer, thank you very much. Rem always teases him when he blushes at her, but she feels secure in the fact that her partner finds her pretty in anything she chooses to wear.
Omg, the amount of fuckin' jokes Rem would make out of being trans. They won't ever stop. They see a semi-truck on the road that has the "trans-" prefix in its name and makes a joke out of it. Roman and Virgil will laugh and snort and snicker with her about it. Trans jokes are fuckin' hilarous (says a trans person), especially when you're making it with fellow trans peeps (*cough cough* trans/nonbinary!Janus is here too *cough cough*).
When Rem is feeling dysphoric, or when she sees herself in the mirror and can only see a him staring back and it feels off? Well, ya see, their brother is always there for them when they're feeling low or bad. They're twins; they've been through thick and thin, even through all of their arguments and bickering, they always make sure the other knows they won't leave. And of course Virgil is there for his wonderful girlfriend and her friends (Janus, especially) are there within seconds. They've got an entire squad of supportive and genuinely caring people by their side.
Rem who likes being called partner/girlfriend but joyfriend is her favourite.
And so yeah: transfemme!Remus :3
T4T Dukexiety my fucking beloved I fucking L O V E this!!! It's S O fucking sweet at how supportive Re's boyfriend and twin along with their friends are <3 She's a transfem baddie who doesn't give a fuck about how she dresses and their Emo boyfriend won't hesitate to sock a bitch if they even dare try to fuck with his joyfriend (Also unrelated note I am literally giving you the title CEO of Wholesome Creativitwins Oatmeal because oml /positive)
#as a transman can also confirm that trans jokes (made by fellow trans people) are in fact hilarious#dukexiety#creativitwins#remus sanders#virgil sanders#roman sanders#janus sanders#ts remus#ts virgil#ts roman#ts janus#sanders sides#thomas sanders#asks#answers#oatmeal-stans-the-trash-rat#not a countdown
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