#tpodg???

[bobafish]

HES SO HOTTTTTTTTTT AÀAAAAAAAAQAAA

[dradelcra]

Guys, Netflix is going to make a modern day adaptation of Dorian Gray and they're making Basil and Dorian brothers

[virginwithasthma]

"Modern retelling" and it's a blatant misinterpretation of the original text

[kagilasgilas]

"From the moment I met you, your personality had the most extraordinary influence over me. I quite admit that I adored you madly, extravagantly, absurdly."

— Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray

[channary]

EXCUSE ME?

[linnytheseagull]

More classic literature YouTubers because it's so funny to me

Bonus content:

[potato-lord-but-not]

what? A Netflix adaptation that turns the toxic yaoi couple into brothers? that’s silly….. that.. that would never happen….. right guys..?? guys??

[nastasyafilipovna11]

draw fanart of Dorian gray? you mean the thing that killed Basil Hallward?

[frankendykez]

it is unfair that there is no gnome adaptation of other classic literature. gnomenstein. gnomian. the picture of dorian gnome. the great gnome. perhaps not gnome dick or white gnomes, however. rather unfortunate names.

[pxnecoffee]

“..as I told Henry, once, you were made to be worshipped.”

[can-of-w0rmz]

Mary Shelley you will always be famous

[thetriboulet]

oscar wilde really spent a whole chapter yapping about perfume and cool rocks and then devoted about three sentences to the murder of one of the central characters, and honestly? i see the vision

[dorians-gay]

[rosquinn]

One of my Dorian Gray hot takes is that there was absolutely nothing in Dorian and Basil's relationship that was healthy. I keep seeing posts like "Basil's love for Dorian was so pure, that's why the portrait was so pretty and the real villain of the story is Wotton because he corrupted it"

As I see it, yes, Wotton did corrupt him, but saying Basil's feelings for Dorian were pure is simply inaccurate to the story. Basil says himself he merely sees Dorian as an artistic ideal [Dorian Gray is to me simply a motive in art. I find him in the curves of certain lines, in the loveliness and subtleties of certain colours. That is all; ch1] and admitted he (a 10 year older man, who had power over him) tried to isolate him from other people and "keep him to himself". Furthermore, Basil also plays a big role in the way Dorian sees himself and his beauty, by painting him everyday and not maintaining any conversation with him, he's indirectly reaffirming what Wotton tells him: people only care about you because you're pretty and young. There is also this scene from the second chapter:

Dorian Gray turned and looked at him. "I believe you would, Basil. You like your art better than your friends. I am no more to you than a green bronze figure. Hardly as much, I dare say.

The painter stared in amazement. It was so unlike Dorian to speak like that. What had happened? He seemed quite angry. His face was flushed and his cheeksburning.

"Yes," he continued, "I am less to you than your ivory Hermes or your silver Faun. You will like them always. How long will you like me? Till I have my first wrinkle, I suppose. I know, now, that when one loses one's good looks, whatever they may be, one loses everything. Your picture has taught me that. Lord Henry Wotton is perfectly right. Youth is the only thing worth having. When I find that I am growing old, I shall kill myself."

Hallward turned pale and caught his hand. "Dorian! Dorian!" he cried, "don't talk like that. I have never had such a friend as you, and I shall never have suchanother. You are not jealous of material things, are you?-you who are finer than any of them!"

Dorian is even dealing with a suicidal ideation over what Wotton has told him and the way Basil sees him, he needs emotional validation, he's asking to be told there's more than him than that, and Basil's reaction is just─ no. You're prettier than any other object (indirectly comparing him to one, too).

Basil's view of Dorian influences how he sees people as much as Wotton's. For example, to Dorian Sybil was only what she pretended to be, he loved her performance, her acting, how she did exactly what the public wanted (which can apply to Dorian himself), not the real her. She was only an artistic ideal to him, she meant to him exactly what Dorian meant to Basil. He ignored her desires, pain and everything not related to what he wanted to see, since that's what he's been taught he must appreciate.

I also disagree with the interpretation of the portrait as a "pure" reflection of Basil's love (I would personally rather describe it as an obsession, though) and Dorians soul because it's not. At least not entirely. Part of the point of the book is that everyone only saw the part of Dorian they wanted: the portrait represents Basil's idolized version of him, what he wanted to see and how he refused to see Dorian as a person instead of an artistic ideal. That's why he tried to make him redeem himself, because he hated seeing his version of Dorian shatter into pieces. It was never Dorian entirely, not even after aging terribly because that's the result of Basil and Wotton's influence. The portrait was not his real soul, it was a modified version of it other people played with because nobody cared about the whole thing, and the influence was so big those parts became his whole being. It was just an idolized, molded version at first but turned into his real self with the time and the sins. Dorian's soul (the portrait) was constructed upon what others appreciated about him, so when Wotton motivated him to sin, because Dorian's potential to be terrible was what mattered to him, it became ugly and terrible. There was absolutely nothing pure about that portrait since day 1.

[figuresinthehaze]

Dorian if he had an ounce of compassion left

Based on that painting of Ivan and his son

[just-an-enby-lemon]

"Sounds pretty gay to us" yeah, to you, to the readers, to Wilde's editor, to the victorian people talking about it, to homophobic victorian lawyers, to Wilde himself... You know... because it IS gay.

It's not subtext. Is not implied. Basil's love for Dorian is as gay as Wilde could possibly have made it at the time. Just because they don't explicitly kiss that doesn't make it subtext. If Basil was an ofensive gay steriotype you guys would be talking about how representative it was instead of screaming subtext. Is text. When Wilde wrote Basil's declaration at chapter 9, the madly worship and adoration, he knew what he was talking about.