#tomorrows2top

[angstandhappiness]

Interesting

There's something bugging me since I saw a statement from Producer Shimomura in a Spanish interview being linked to Rui's page (and consequently, the Chosen Child's page) on a wiki about a question which was "Rui is way younger than Maki and Daigo who're the first Chosen. How so?" My assumption of that question was like "the interviewer was assuming things (thanks to the fact now everyone who sees the mentioned Five Previous Chosen from Adv'99 as Maki and Daigo's team thanks to ▽) and is not well aware of the math lore",

But then... Shimomura's answer was like "Oh this is new for me too. Anyway Rui is not exactly a Chosen Child and is more likely a special and unique case" which is basically contradicted by everything 02TB-related as well -- interviews, promotional stuff, etc.

(also the interviewer misquote Rui's statements in-movie, since Rui was not even aware of that term and the ones to claim he was indeed the first there were the 02 kids.)

I've been talking with a friend about this quite recently and i'm confused now... What does that whole question even MEAN what's up with that answer!?

(I hope this is not ▽ negative tho, because i do love Maki-Daigo and i want them to coexist with Rui, i'm trying to make them WORK with the lore... Even by soft-retconning a few details of them orz)

Yeah, so about that...I apologize for the language, but this is one of those rare occasions where you just have to flat-out discard an official statement as bullshit. Shimomura's answer doesn't make sense by any kind of logic whatsoever:

In Adventure continuity, being a "Chosen Child" has an extremely loose definition (which is even acknowledged in Two-and-a-Half Year Break). The only consistent definition of a Chosen, and the one thing that distinguishes cases like Oikawa, Hiroki, and Hikari and Taichi in 1995 from kids who can actually be called Chosen, is that Chosen Children have Digivices (i.e. them being "chosen" is not for anything specific, but being formalized with a Digivice means they now have a responsibility). So by definition, as a kid who was sent a Digimon and a Digivice by some entity, Rui is a Chosen. There's no good argument for him to not be a Chosen.

And of course, even if in the movie they didn't claim that Rui was the first Chosen with that exact wording, basically every bit of promotional and advertising material and member of staff has referred to him as the first Chosen. Like this isn't a "Menoa says that Digimon disappear because they became adults" situation where the advertising would have this "they learn from Menoa that..." indirect tone about it; everyone else has been completely unambiguous about the fact Rui is meant to be taken as the first Chosen. Otherwise, why would they make such a big deal about picking that specific year for Rui to meet Ukkomon, or, hell, what's the point of naming the movie "The Beginning"? That would arguably make advertising the movie as being about the first Chosen into advertising fraud or something.

This is a response to a question asking how Himekawa and Nishijima would be Chosen if Rui was the first Chosen Child, because the contradiction makes this not make sense. But even if you take Shimomura's idea of Rui being the "first one to form a partner relationship with a Digimon", that still doesn't explain anything nor does it resolve the contradiction because Himekawa and Nishijima also clearly had partner relationships with their Digimon in their childhoods too. Like again, it's practically advertising fraud if Rui isn't the first something.

As for why Shimomura would say something like this, the whole "this is new to me too" already hints at the idea she wasn't very well-informed about this issue or series Deepest Lore (in particular, it's pretty likely she didn't know much about tri., given she was two producers ahead of it, and her article series on Digimon Partners suggests she's pretty new to Digimon production as a whole). So I doubt this answer was very well-thought through, especially since everyone else involved in the movie has been pretty clear about being timeline-precise.

The other likely reason is that, when you think about it, this question is inherently an unsolvable trap for a producer like her. If you know the actual Digimon Adventure series production timeline, tri. was unilaterally the one that went off-kilter here; Adventure lore alone dictates that you can't have Chosen before 1995, so there is a correct answer here, and it's simply that tri. messed up and that going back to original Adventure canon for Kizuna and 02TB required throwing a lot of it out. This has generally been the implicit stance that's been taken since even back during Kizuna; most glaringly, tri. was just flat-out omitted in an official timeline, which has to carry some meaning because one does not just accidentally omit a series that was advertised as an Adventure sequel and was basically the core of the franchise for five real-life years.

I don't get the impression it's "tri. isn't canon anymore" as much as it's "we have to ignore so many substantial details of tri. that it may not be correct to call it the same thing anymore," which is consistent with the way "canon" has been loosely treated in the franchise in general. But the thing is, the reason why they're being implicit about it instead of saying it all-out is that, yeah, if they say it in explicit words, that's going to piss off everyone who's going to see that as five years being tossed down the drain, let alone tri. fans who will basically see their favorite being spit on in public. (If you ask me, I don't see "messing up lore points" as having inherent ties to writing quality, and I don't think the creators do either, but lore can be Serious Business to Japanese fans, so officially saying that something violates lore can easily be taken as public shaming; even the few times they've brought up lore contradictions have gotten people mad in some way.)

So while I definitely wish she'd have given an answer that was less obviously bullshit, Shimomura did kind of have to give a bullshit answer in order to not piss someone off, since her job as a producer is less about the creative writing and more about juggling the interests of the movie as a whole. This also wouldn't be our first instance of this kind of situation; it's generally been hinted by staff members that Seki's claim of every version of Akiyama Ryou being the same character was also something she was forced to say in order to not have to say something like "yeah the WonderSwan games aren't canon actually" (which would piss off their fans and Bandai).

[elecmon]

i'm still Rui-Ukko brainrot so maybe Rui & Ukkomon having fun? (if not, just a silly tiny Rui...)

baking together and realizing you accidentally made more than you needed, so you can hand the rest out to your friends!!

Shitty doodle requests closed, Happy Odaiba day!

[citrus-cactus]

When i couldn't resist to watch the OP preview i saw the shot of Daisuke having MORE PAIRS OF DUMB SHADES AND I HAD THIS MIGHTY URGE TO SEE YOUR REACTION TO THAT PART LIKE

We joked about this in March (me) and April (your post on Daisuke Week) and i'm still SHOOK ABOUT THAT 🤣🤣🤣

(this movie and collabs just proved that most of my dumb headcanons were right all this whole time and i don't know how to deal with it... Been like this since July 2019 hhhhhhhh)

THAT WAS SO GREAT. Honestly there are a few screenshots I need to collect from this movie when it comes out on home release so I can linger over them and appreciate them, and Daisuke's shades drawer is definitely one of them (bet you can guess one of the others!) XD

[neorukixart]

Ya could do DaiRui too, someday? ;w;

They have been in my to-do list for so long but every time I try, I just don't feel I'm doing them justice

but I swear, I'm still trying asfjdiobhdfbdsf

[tomorrows2top]

Hey folks. I need to ask a question.

(to those who doesn't know, "tomorrows2top" is a reference to Daisuke & V-mon's first duet, 2-TOP)

[digitalgate02]

twitter is gone for me now.

whoever came from there, thanks.

i'll try to keep this blog more active again (also @beginningobserver & @tomorrows2top too)

[legendheroes]

Hello everyone, it's time to...

So the rules are simple:

Read this post about the Legend titles + codenames for more details

Title + codename might invoke some element of the character, or the series, or both.

Comment in this post, no reblogs and no asks. just comments in this post here. Don't forget to tag @tomorrows2top so I can see them.

max. 10 of them might be selected for the poll. I expect at least 3 options to put a good poll here.

I'd put a limit per person but nah, go wild.

If this thing works for Hiro, i might do the same thing with Haru and reboot Taichi later.

Have fun?

[beginningobserver]

[Pinned] About + Rules

🌟About:

This is a (side)blog focused on Oowada Rui and Ukkomon from the 02 movie "THE BEGINNING" and there will be spoilers, but tagged properly as 02tb spoilers -- so please add this one in the filters in case you don't want to see spoilerish discussion/art/posts.

That said... I felt in love with Rui since his adult design, name and VA was announced. Some of my old art/stuff featuring him was wild speculation until now.

I'm Ni/ @digitalgate02 (She/They; Ace; 20+) btw. I post my other stuff on @legendheroes ; @tomorrows2top and @detectiveichijouji lately.

Status: lurking.

🌟Rules:

→ NO BASHING/DUNKING ON ANY SERIES, OR CHARACTERS. Also I won't tolerate hateful comments.

→ NO SHIP WARS. Yes, this blog is canon compliant so please, avoid asking about non-canon or if possible asking shipping at all.

Btw the only Rui ship i care so far is Daisuke/Rui, and i won't allow hate towards either of them or any ship involving them.

→ I don't ship human/digimon and I might block if you ship it.

→ Please don't send me requests to draw stuff. Some replies might have art! But if you just drop me something like "can you draw [insert here some prompt/idea]" i will immediately reply with my comm. price chart :) And no, I won't draw fetish art.

→ Ah, I have so little to zero knowledge of the American dub of any digi-series. I will only work with the Japanese version or Brazilian dub. No dub or OG version dunking is allowed in this space by the way.

→ I don't like passive-aggressiveness. If you have something to correct in my posts, please do it politely.

→ Usual common etiquette -- No hatred towards people's religions, sexual/romantic orientation, gender (or lack of), PoC, ethnicities, etc. I won't hesitate to block if needed.

→ Do not edit my art or repost it. If you wanna use it as an icon/sidebar, ask first. And no, you cannot use my art on A/I & N/F/T for ANYTHING. If you do that, I will block you immediately.

Please use this post to access the pages/tags. ↓↓↓

[variouscolors-old]

seems like the digi-RPC is still asleep...

well, you know the drill: wanna talk to me try @tomorrows2top / @detectiveichijouji / @digitalgate02 for a while o/

[reliablejoukido]

@tomorrows2top

Since you asked about headcanons, I don't have too many... yet!

They've met, or at least seen each other before when various family members of Chosen get together. But at Miyako's wedding, neither of them have a date. Jou has on his really snazzy pair of red translucent glasses that I love putting on him for special occasions. Mantarou, who is kind of depressed about his youngest sister getting married before he even has a steady boyfriend, wanders around the wedding venue looking for anyone to distract him. He notices Jou standing alone at one point. Mantarou thinks Jou is kinda hot, and asks him where he bought/ordered his glasses. They strike up a conversation about glasses of all things, then about Mantarou's piercings (which he has more of at this point, but decided to only wear one earring to his sister's wedding). Jou says he would be too scared to get a piercing and Mantarou's like "you afraid of needles, man?" and Jou says "there's a reason I became a doctor for Digimon, who don't need shots or blood draws". Mantarou is super impressed by Jou being a doctor. He is desperate to know if Jou likes men, but doesn't know how to bring it up, other than to give Jou his number and say "come with me to pick out my next pair of glasses, since you clearly have good taste." Jou is extremely surprised by this because no, he does not have good taste. Sora helped him pick out those glasses in fact. But he doesn't say any of that to Mantarou, because he thinks Mantarou is kinda hot.

...okay that ended up being more headcanons than I anticipated.

What if Jou gets to know Mantarou Inoue at Miyako’s wedding because neither of them have dates and then Jou and Mantarou start secretly dating. What IF????

[elecmon]

i just had a thought which is...

tiny Gomamon.

TINY GOMAMON!!!!!!!!!!

TEENY TINY

[demonoflight]

Boop. Have a wonderful day 💛 ~with love, digitalgate02/Ni

Thank you Ni!!! So cute uwaaa~~

[citrus-cactus]

So, Appmon mangaka is on twitter now and posting some Appmon art there:

https://twitter.com/akamine_naoki/status/1558976443216199680?s=21&t=QldJHqIn4x6bf5OpTln2yg

Thanks for thinking of me! I just saw and reblogged Shiha’s post. Always happy to see some love for the manga, especially from the artist themself! 😊

[neorukixart]

You really love that idea of Daigo becoming an Homeostasis Agent and it makes me happy xD Thank you for all those doodles! I appreciate every MakiNishi you do

I’m guilty of all charges and I regret nothing~ whatever it takes to keep the OTP alive ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) thank you for everything so far Ni, love you~~~ UwU

[digitalgate02]

PETIT ART COMMISSIONS!!

I'll do anything easier and adaptable to the style. No mecha/too detailed stuff. → Commissioner chooses the lineart color, and if they want it to blink or not.

Please send a bust reference pic; you can use picrew or any other doll/icon maker if you cannot draw! The more references, the better.

Rules:

No N/F/Ts, no hateful content, no N/S/F/W

Won't draw OCs which aren't yours without the owner's permission. → Do not edit it yourself or resell it, please. ←

[REQUEST THEM HERE]

I forgot to mention this: Contact me on ko-fi or on @tomorrows2top via DM!!

[legendheroes]

Welcome, this blog is full on delusional and crossover art/stuff between the Digimon TV series protags. Ah, and stuff from that peculiar XW AU setting i didn't shut up about on my artblog last year LOL.

Expect chaos and shitposts here. Also some canon divergence because some series i didn't rewatch for a long long time ago.

There's only love and unhinged energy here. Daisuke might be present in most of those because yeah, i love this kiddo a lot.

I won't tolerate any series/game/manga hate in this space. If you don't like any of them, please unfollow/block me instead.

Askblog → @tomorrows2top Artblog → @digitalgate02

Call me Ni (she/they), btw. Please be over 18+ to follow this blog, since some stuff might be not recommended for minors (mostly language, i don't draw/write NFSW/smut stuff). And don't steal or edit my stuff please! If you don't agree with my headcanons or ideas please politely block or mute this account 💦 I accept fact checking/corrections, but as long they're done in a non-passive-aggressive or non-mockery sense. And yeah, my English my not be perfect as well (and i can only read kanji and so little stuff in Japanese, having to double check stuff with friends with better skills than mine orz)

Blog status: lurking

↓ Some important things to be said regarding asks are below the cut ↓

I won't write/draw AUs or Stories/Fanfictions, OCs or even headcanons/theories from other people. Even the old ones i've collaborated with i prefer to not touch them again (because, i lost contact with people and also lost all the posts/details of them )

Please avoid sending me many of "what do you think of [X]" questions because sometimes those kiiiinda make me get no idea what to answer, or perhaps i've been answered/posted something related to it before. Even so, if you would like to send one of those, first check if i hadn't answered it or something similar to it first!

At this moment, this blog is me being delusional about the AU thingy on the pinned post. Most of those posts might be about them.

My memory is foggy about certain series, so if i end up misremembering something... Yeah, please contact me asap.

I know i've said this on countless accounts but, I have little to zero knowledge of the American dub, so my portrayal/answers/headcanons/etc are all based on the original Japanese version and sometimes stuff borrowed from the BRPT dub (which is mostly the same as the original JP for most of the series -- except Fusion). So please, don't assume that I had watched the US dub or that I am American.

My stance on the digimon (monsters) are that there's more than one of each species within the multiverse. So, Daisuke's V-mon/Magnamon, OG & Reboot Taichis' Agumon/Omegamon and Takato's Guilmon/Dukemon are not related to the Royal Knights.

I will follow all canon material if possible when working with canon versions of the characters, BUT only what i can work with. If something gets in conflict with the main TV series (Adv99-02-Tamers-Frontier-Savers-XW-Appmon-Adv2020-GG) i will reject the contradictions and use only the stuff not affected or influenced by it. Basically playing with the idea the events we know in certain media are played differently in-universe, adopted from Pixiv Dictionary. Explained better by Shiha in this post here.

I don't like passive-aggressiveness. If you have something to correct in my posts, please do it politely.

Usual common etiquette -- No hatred towards people's religions, sexual/romantic orientation, gender (or lack of), PoC, ethnicities, etc. I won't hesitate to block if needed.

Do not edit my art or repost it. If you wanna use it as an icon/sidebar, ask first. And no, you cannot use my art on A/I & N/F/T for ANYTHING. If you do that, I will block you immediately.

If you like, ship them in the age of the AU setting, please don't ship the adults with the minors. I beg you to not tag me in anything suggestive about 20yo!Daisuke/Tagiru. Please. (however i do accept any adult Daisuke/Takato and adult Takuya/Daisuke SFW content.)