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The Night Blüdhaven Exploded
I don't see enough people talking about what the Chemo attack on Blüdhaven must have done, as just everything was going wrong for Bruce and his boys that night.
For starters, Bruce is already fighting his dead/ressurected son who came back as a crime-lord villain who has been blowing up so, so many goons/criminals in Gotham for a while.
Then he sees Blüdhaven explode in front of his very eyes, and Jason then taunts Bruce, saying that Dick must be dead and insists on forcing Bruce to choose between killing Jason and killing the Joker not 2 minutes later. Bruce, as we all know, refuses to allow either, and stops Jason with a Batarang to the neck/shoulder, depending on your angst factor (or possibly aiming for Joker, but Joker moves and gets it to hit Jason on purpose/by accident ymmv).
(Batman 1940 #650)
And then, after all of that, the Joker sets off some explosives, surely killing Jason/the Joker (This makes the second explosion the Joker is going to no-clip his way out of, and Jason's learned that skill this time as well)
(Batman 1940 #650)
But wait! There's more! I know in the Batman comic they only mention Bruce being concerned for Dick, but Tim was living in Blüdhaven at the time too! Tim was fresh off of his father/girlfriend dying and didn't want to be adopted by Bruce, so he invented a fake Uncle Eddie (hiring an actor to play the role) and moved to Blüdhaven, where his comatose step-mother was being treated. Tim is only out of the city at the time of the explosion because the Titans came and said something was wrong with Conner, so they needed to leave to help save him. On their way out of the city in their jet, they only get far enough to avoid the blast, but not far enough that they avoid the resulting shockwaves as it renders their navigational systems offline, and likely their comms too. So not far enough that Bruce, who has been chasing Jason and Black Mask all night, could reasonably be aware of this fact.
(Robin 1993 #147)
So Dick and Tim very well could have been in that explosion and then Jason gets exploded! Amazing! That's 3 for 3 remaining Robins possibly killed in an explosion in one single hour.
We have no idea where Jason gets to, but we'll assume that he is unable to find the body because of the new no-clipping into the backrooms skill Jason must have (Jason was meant to die here, again. In another explosion set off by the Joker, so Bruce will have to assume Jason is dead even if he turns up alive later. How? Who the fuck knows).
Speaking of ol' Richard "Dick" Grayson, aka Nightwing, how is old boy wonder doing? Well, he's been having a rough go of it the past six months, between Blockbuster targeting him and destroying everything he cares about, Tarantula killing Blockbuster after successfully convincing him to just let her kill Blockbuster (while he walks away and has a panic attack...and...other things happen...TW: SA if you look it up), and then basically playing "suicide by cop" through the job following that and being a double agent of the group that just nuked Blüdhaven, uh...he is straight-up not having a good time by the time Chemo blows up Blüdhaven, and he's only getting worse. He tries to go to the center of the explosion, and Superman, fortunately, arrives on the scene to save Nightwing and put him up on the shelf to avoid dying (I love how Superman keeps trying to save Nightwing from himself in this era and Nightwing is just...no, thank you).
(Nightwing 1996 #116)
Unfortunately, this is the "Flying Grayson" himself, so no shelf is high enough to prevent Dick from going in there, and his mental state is so bad that certain death while saving others is probably more tempting to him at the moment than a deterrent. He "Duly Noted"s his way back into Blüdhaven, helps get the police to control the panicking crowds of survivors towards an escape route, saves the few remaining friends Blockbuster didn't kill recently, and goes directly into the most radioactive area of Blüdhaven to try and save some rouge who might have been there. We see Superman fighting Chemo's core in the background throughout his rescue attempts, so Dick's close the entire time to this heavy radiation. Dick notes that this is the first time he's able to breathe easy in months, saving people from the ruins. He's eventually taken out as a door explodes with the Chemo green gasses while trying to locate the rogue while reflecting on his recent failures.
(Nightwing 1996 #116)
I do think the appearance of Batman as Dick passes out isn't real, Bruce was in Gotham, either reeling from the explosion or looking for Jason or something. There's no way he got to Blüdhaven already, and the legs of Batman are hazy, blending into the smoke.
I also think after Chemo is stopped that Bruce probably still hasn't heard anything about Nightwing, because I don't imagine he took the time and resources to call the Veteran in a communications blackout (who has been historically trying to poach Batman's Robins, and nearly got Tim killed trying to convince Tim to leave Batman and join up his forces. Batman and the Veteran are not on good terms, is what I'm saying) just for Tim's step-mother and fake uncle.
(Robin 1993 #147)
By this time, he is talking about Tim as if he's alive, so he's probably gotten something from the Titans base confirming that Tim's alright, so he's gotta be taking the time and effort to call the Veteran for Dick.
Bruce, being Bruce, gets into a fight with Dick as soon as Dick is brought back to the Batcave and wakes up, while Dick is being treated for severe radiation poisoning/burns. I am willing to forgive this because he's had a time of it, even if he's being hostile and pissy and unsupportive. Definitely not winning the Father of the Year award for this, I'm afraid (Worst Father of the Year award is going to Deathstroke, for embedding a known radioactive carcingenic material into his daughter's eye, but Bruce is in the running for this and Jason).
(Nightwing 1996 #117)
I am awarding this to Bruce for trying to reassure Dick.
But. Anyway. Yeah.
Rough night for everyone involved. Absolutely everything going wrong all at once.
#batman#bruce wayne#red hood#jason todd#robin#tim drake#nightwing#dick grayson#Blüdhaven#bludhaven#dc comics#Bruce that is not how you greet your son#who is suffering from a guilt complex atlas could not carry#and showing self-destructive tendancies#after he survives something that should have killed him#you get a mushy gold star for the attempt#to say nothing of Tim or Jason#Batman and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day#At least Cassandra was off with some Justice League Elite mission#Also Bruce had to have been throwing that fit on pain-killers and with bandages under the costume#because he was point-blank on that explosion too
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hear me out, danny speaking russian (dc x dp hc)
so i was just watching a video about space, right? allegedly, turns out if you (an american) wanna board the international space station you must speak russian fluently since the only way to get there is by a russian shuttle and pilot (nasa apparently ended their own shuttle program way back when??) (don’t quote me on this)
so picture danny learning russian at a relatively young age for the sole hope of going to space and such, and it coming out every once in a while when he’s mumbling or something like that (it’s basically second nature to him)
so danny ends up at gotham for whatever reason (demon twins, reveal gone wrong, idc, they’re all cool) and he wants to start anew, so he pretends to only speak russian?? ig?? it’d make for some funny/interesting BatFam interactions i suppose
i don’t know where i was going with this but i want to read prompts of danny speaking russian
#danny phantom#dpxdc#dcxdp#dp x dc#dc x dp#one of the bats walks up to him like#dude you’re not supposed to be at an abandoned warehouse why are you here#and he just says the russian equivalent of no habla ingles#what’s funnier is that they’ve seen him talking in english with literally everyone else#he only speaks in russian with the bats#and it drives them NUTS#and he’s having the time of his life#i think the first time a bat spoke to him he was a bit sleep deprived or something#but he isn’t danny COMMIT TO THE BIT fenton for nothing#dc x dp crossover#dp x dc crossover#story prompt#dp x dc prompt#dc x dp prompt#bat family#batman#bruce wayne#alfred pennyworth#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#stephanie brown#damian wayne#cassandra cain#duke thomas
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Jason: Yo, Tim wanna see something?
Tim:..Against my better judgement, sure.
Jason, staring directly at him and then suddenly he disappears just to appear next to him:
Tim: WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT WAS THAT?
Jason: I dunno, something I did once..I think I can only do it twice..that was the second time.
Tim: WHA-? WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
Jason: I can't do it again, that's the last time I'll be able to do that
Tim: ..Then WHY the hell did you show me that!?
Jason: Cuz if you tell anyone else, they'll never believe you and you can't make me show them.
Tim: What's wrong with you?!
Jason: Timmy..I will do anything and everything..just cuz it's a little funny to me.
Tim:
Jason, holding his hand out and suddenly the All-Blades appears: I also have this but I won't use it again for the same reason
Tim: WHAT THE FUCK!!
#j.p speaks#i just think..jason should have lazarus abilities but ONLY use it when tims around 💀#jason todd#tim drake#hes the reason tim stays up at night but not for the reason everyone thinks lmao#bonus if damian knows (cuz Ra also has freaky abilities) but says nothing#batfamily#incorrect batfamily quotes#this is more specific towards me and my friends ideas lol#batfamily but if they were way more chaotic-
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Prompt:
Jason, after coming back to Gotham and taking over the criminal underworld— is burnt out.
He’s exhausted, he can’t sleep, he’s pretty sure he broke some ribs somewhere along the two month mark of being the Red Hood and he just wants to go home.
So he does, entering the Cave near deliriously while Batman and Robin are out on patrol, shattering the stupid memorial he comes across while he’s at it, and— huh, well, that actually looks like a pretty comfy spot to take a nap. He’s just gonna— one minute. He just needs one… minute…..
When Bruce and Tim return to the Cave it’s to a dead boy passed out in the shattered remains of the memorial case, wrapped up in the tattered cape Bruce pulled from the rubble in Ethiopia.
#jason goes home#sleep deprivation#is nothing to sneeze at#it makes you really loopy#Jason then wakes up to frantic pulse checking and what not#Bruce definitely thought someone had the audacity to dig up his dead son’s body to mock him with it at first#before he realized that#hold on a minute#he looks older#Tim is freaking out because his favorite Robin just came back to life#and god help him he’s making sure it’s permanent#even if he has to dunk him in a pit#(joke’s on him Talia already did that part#(everyone say thank you Talia)#jason todd#batfamily#batfam#bruce wayne#dick grayson#robin#tim drake#red hood#Nightwing#Batman#prompts
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Bruce is the kind of parents teachers hate, because he always takes his child's side. Dick started a fight? His boy would never, the other kid probably started it and deserved it. Jason felt asleep in class? Well, maybe stop being boring. His kids are angels who can do no wrong.
The administration of Gotham Academy was so relieved when Dick graduated because they wouldn't have to deal with Bruce again, only for him to get another one. And once Jason passed away, they felt guilty to be happy to not have to see Bruce again, only for him to show up a year later for Tim. (I know, canonically, Tim went to another school, but this is funny to imagine) He isn't even the kid's guardian, but he justifies it with the absence of Tim's parents at the moment, how he is his neighbour and his son is very close to him, they see each others as brothers!
It's a bit different with Damian because he was raised differently than his siblings and could be quite arrogant at the start, but Bruce still does take his defense when he doesn't have his son's side.
Of course, once he is alone with his boys, he does ask what happens and lecture them if necessary, but in public, he gets protective. It comes from how he remembers feeling as a teen, angry and hurt but nobody listened or understood, just scolded him. He wants his kids to feel understood, to know they can express themselves to him. (It's canon that Bruce saw Jason's aggressivity as Robin as Jason being in pain. In older comics at least). It's also comes from how protective he is in general.
This also happens with the Justice League and other heroes. They have no right to criticize his kids, and he can lecture them himself if they really did something dangerous. Robin punched you? You probably deserved it.
His kids are perfect angels, ok?!
#batfam#bruce wayne#batman#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#damian wayne#dc comics#my ramblings#the thing with Jason sleeping in class and Bruce bieng like “well maybe you're boring?” actually happens in comic#he doesn’t say it like this but he yawns when the teacher complains that Jason sleeps in her class#and that's literally like saying “you're boring that's why”#Gotham Academy hates Bruce Wayne because of how he was as a student and how he is as a parent#Jason: I have done nothing wrong ever in my entire life#Bruce: I know this and I love you#Gotham Academy Headmaster: You adopted him after he stole from you?!
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Ive come to the decision that my metric for determining if the new robin lives series is good or bad will be if Tim Drake shows up if he shows up then I hate it worst series 0/10 if he doesn't then it's the best thing I've ever read well done dc you nailed it
#dc#jason lives#jason todd#tim drake#batman#dc comics#not sorry#i hate jason lives stories were tim shows up#why are you here tim#your not needed#id say this is a joke#but my expectations for this series are on thw floor#i expect nothing#so if it can do this one thing#ill be happy#anyway gonna go read the first issue now
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Tim finally snaps.
“Its not my fault you and Bruce didn't work out! Its yours. Im done being the excuse for all your mistakes, all your misgivings. Im Robin now. And Batman is mine. I was willing to share him with you, I wanted to, because of what you meant to him. But im done jason. I am done.”
#idk what this is#just a little snapshot writing#of a scene#i feel like#tim gets so stepped on#by everyone#and i need him to finally snap#to say#“no. i did nothing wrong. youre the problem. im better”#and walk away#walk away from jason#from dick#its not his fault they cant get along with bruce when he can#bruce isnt easy to love thats true#but he has#he and bruce love each other#and bruce /loves/ him#he knows he does#so its their fault#not his#idk#batfam#batman#tim drake#batman and robin#jason todd#bruce wayne
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I find it hilarious and ironic that people will make the Bat kids paranoid about one another even though they say they're nothing like Bruce that they didn't inherit his paranoia traits canon or fanon
Proves that you don't have to be blood related to inherit such traits
#especially in fanon#with the fics people will make#a specific fic about said bat kid then#having others worry none stop#like especially jason of always being bruce#by saying he has nothing to do with his former life#yet there he is helping the family#dc#dick grayson#jason todd#batman#bruce wayne#batfam#tim drake#damian wayne#cassandra cain#stephanie brown#duke thomas#i know there are others but#its just names i know so far#batman family#batman fandom#dc fandome
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2000s batman was my first ever experience with "are the men ok" because the vibe would just sometimes pivot from noir adjacent detective adventures ft. broody but good hearted dark knight to
your dad is withholding.
it's presumptuous and needy for you to suggest that he's your dad.
he's legitimately not your dad.
it's a dadsuationship.
he's always disappointed in you but that's just because he has such high standards.
he's controlling but in a way that suggests it's less that he cares about you on an individual level and more that he's a perfectionist and you are a potential fuckup.
he does care about you on an individual level don't be silly. god you're so emotional and dumb
he's an impossible ideal that you're never going to live up to.
any negative feelings you might have about this are mostly on you for the twin sins of not being good enough and caring what he thinks.
but if you didn't care what he thinks wouldn't that be petty and ungrateful and indicative of poor judgement that will bring Disaster.
and then i'd conclude that only someone with daddy issues beyond my comprehension could have written this. like both the behaviour and the pervasive implicit victim blaming. that was unfair of me! in retrospect some of it was clearly just writers struggling with what i will generously call the complex cultural legacy of batman and robin. some of it was rank misogyny in terms of like, an inability to consider teenaged girls fully human and thus an inability to write batman as considering teenaged girls as fully human. some of it is that comics thrive on melodrama and it's easy to fall back on repetitively rehashing the same emotional beat. and i was a kid; it's possible that my take would be different today. however with these caveats i maintain that this was nevertheless not even worth asking who hurt you behaviour (it was dads).
#press says batman#lmao in the comics i've read since then he's not like that but he is frequently dead or an amnesiac#so i don't actually really have a firm take on his dadding or even which of his children are canonically his children#i remember when his kids were a) jason and b) adult dick he was constantly fighting with#tim and cass were very notably not his kids especially tim#babs and cass were iirc much closer!#i shall say nothing of his relationship with steph
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The compelling thing about Jason as a character is that I never doubted that he cared about the world just because there weren’t panels of him being overly zealous about “restorative community care”
I’m not coming after anyone who wants to see that kind of stuff, but I do think seeking | that | as confirmation that Jason cares about the world is pretty narrow
#shoving an arc like that into his comics to “show he cares about people”#after having him repeatedly say things like “nothing I ever did was for good. it was all just selfish anger” in recent comics#would be the final nail in the “see! he's redeeming himself! he CAN be likable!” coffin (pathetic)#it's literally what his antis have been suggesting would make his character “so much better”#kelseethe#see also: “people would have a hard time knowing whether Jason loves them”#why did he gift Thomas' watch to Bruce all those years later + possibly even after utrh happened#why is he always silently forgiving the shitty treatment from his family almost like he wants to maintain some sort of relationship w/ them#as for “showing that he cares about the world”#the most obvious “evidence” is right there#why would he continue to fight tooth and nail to have a place in Gotham as a vigilante#both warding off and enduring harassment after harassment from Bruce while hearing the same message every time#“hey. you're doing this to yourself. you can make it all go away if you just do as I say and quit for good.”#“you'll even get to be my son again”#it’s not like he gets recognition/praise for doing what he does either unlike Bruce Dick or Tim#what could possibly be in it for him#wouldn't it be that much easier to “not give a crap about the world” on a beach in Capri instead of in the Gotham sewers every month#anyway Jason should decapitate rapists and poison more child traffickers and not cry about it five seconds after
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Chapters: 2/2 Fandom: Batman - All Media Types Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Batfamily Members & Jason Todd Characters: Jason Todd, Dick Grayson, Leslie Thompkins, Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake, Alfred Pennyworth, Duke Thomas Additional Tags: Amnesia, Serious Injuries, Concussions, Post-Concussion Syndrome, Broken Bones, Brain Damage, Brain Fog, Unreliable Narrator, Jason Todd-centric, Resurrected Jason Todd, Headaches & Migraines, Lazarus Pit Side Effects (DCU), Mental Health Issues, Angst, Terminal Illnesses, implied eventual main character death Summary:
Shocking! Magic Death Pit's Rejuvenating Effects Don't Last! Local zombie boy’s body and life fall apart, onlookers concerned, read more within.
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The Lazarus pit wasn’t a lasting solution. It takes much longer for Jason to realize or even admit this than it should. If you ignore your health issues long enough, they should go away, right?
#Jason Todd#Red hood#Nightwing#Dick grayson#Tim Drake#Duke Thomas#Signal#Batman#Bruce Wayne#alfred pennyworth#leslie thompkins#Batfamily#Fic rec#Lazarus pit side effects#Red robin#Batfam#I regret nothing; I say crying
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I just saw a post of a FanArt of Richard Greyson winning gold medals at the Olympics…
so an idea comes to mind…
A crazy guy is stalking the US Olympic team, at first the classic letters from a disturbing stalker, worrying but not enough to do anything more than increase security and start an investigation, after all they are in the middle of the inauguration and there is not much that can be done…
they don't plan to cancel anything… until the truck where the athletes are leaving the event is sabotaged/attacked…
despite the vehicle overturning, most of them had a scare and some bruises… but there are several of them who were left with injuries that prevent them from continuing in the competition.
which should end with the withdrawal of some competitions by the United States… but luckily they meet some of the Wayne boys who came to see the event and they are willing to be substitutes, even if it's just to fill in the spots…
Meanwhile, the Batkids are taking some time off, and by unanimous decision (no one votes against Cas) they decide to go see the opening and some events of the Olympics, what they didn't expect was to find a case involving the Olympic team, where everything seems to point to someone within it, targeting other athletes.
So they decide to investigate from within.
#batman#dick grayson#jason todd#cassandra cain#tim drake#Dick competes in Gymnastics#Jason competes in Shooting#Cas competes in Artistic Gymnastics#Tim is an assistant and investigating#Some substitutes entered to compete because of the accident#They and their families/companions are the main suspects#The Batkids enter the competition to have access to the Athletes#Someone deliberately damaged some seats and safety belts of the truck#It is not known if the culprit was a group or just someone who harmed more victims to mislead#Athletes with fractures#damaged ligaments and broken bones#Most of them ended up well#I know almost nothing about the competitions and the organization of the Olympics#I just need an excuse for these kids to compete and cause a stir#The boys prove that they are more than nepo babies#People wonder why the Wayne boys are on par with Olympic Athletes#Some malicious reporters say that the Waynes were the ones who caused the accident#They justify themselves by saying that they come from Gotham City and so on They do things there#Gotham City residents are outraged#Their princes wouldn't do that
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typical Bats-don’t-know-he’s-Jason Red Hood surprise kidnaps Robin but has to wait to do his dramatic monologuing because the little bird is unconscious from where Jason found him with human traffickers. Hours pass, and the kid not stirring begrudgingly makes Jason feel a tinge of worry, which no, he doesn’t appreciate. He’d planned to beat the kid senseless, and now he’s here stuck with him while not being able to, kid is hurt already. Aaand why was that really? The time is the factor that gives Jason the space he needs to really ponder over where exactly Robin had been when he’d found him, how easy it had been to take him and why Batman had not been there to stop him.
among many others just,, imagine Jason seeing Robin for what he is, for what he was, and having a mini crisis about whether is okay to be mad with a kid who in this sorta mirror scenario batman was also not here to protect and stop the man who kidnapped him in the first place. …he recalls how he used to feel when he was the one hiding behind Batman’s shadow and well, he’s cringing over wanting to see this kid who’s wounds he wrapped boded against him. Now Tim’s perspective,, poor kid is super confused in the little time he’s been awake because the man B has been worrying about for months is asking why wasn’t he with Batman?? asking if the man had forgotten what happened to the last boy who worn those colors? if he even cared?? really just, picture Tim having to hear this random crime lord sounding all angry and hateful and making allusions to his predecessor’s fate and run as Robin without even waiting for any input (like this is a version of the dramatic monologue let my boy ramble) and 0 to 100 passing from panic alarm fear you know who we are?? to what the fuck are you defending me?? you mad in my behalf?in Jason’s?? what is this shit
#tim: *who last thing he remembers is being beat on and now is in bed with his wounds wrapped* is this a rescue???#jason: *who’s been ranting for half an hour* haven’t you been listening?? this is an intervention#jason is standing in the corner with his arms crossed#it boíls down to are you threatening me because I’m Robin or to keep me from being Robin?#okay let’s pretend all jason needed to realize beating a child is wrong was time#like seven hours#because i google searched how long can you be unconscious from a concussion and that’s when you pass from normal head injury to yeah#worry#bottom line: jason will try to convince tim to not be robin#unfortunately they are not yet brothers your honor#jason still harbors resentment and jealousy#and that is towards Tim#but Tim has done nothing wrong and boy will he forge evidence to prove it#he may not even know who is under the red hood#but Tim recognizes that despite knowing who he is and his threats the man is trying not to hurt him#(and he will not if I have a say in this)#and that’s all timmy needs to drag jason into being begrudging brothers#crack#au#tim drake#jason todd#batman#tim drake & jason todd#different first meeting#red hood#robin#tim drake robin
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please!! feel free to elaborate in the tags
by this i mean which batkid is most likely to lie to any future kids about tracking/toxin tolerance building. like, doesn't ask permission just does it without telling the kid in question
#i feel like i know who the front runner here is gonna be#but i'm curious#asking for a friend btw of couuurrssseee this has nothing to do with me and things i'm writing :)#and also just. genuinely curious what people will say#i've never made a poll before it's nerve-wracking#batfam#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#duke thomas#damian wayne#barbara gordon#batfamily
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People bring up the fact that Jason (might have) beaten up Tim that one time like it's the worst thing Jason did ignoring that he literally shoots Damian point blank in the chest all the offence in the world to tim but imo boy got off pretty easy
#dc#tim drake#jason todd#dc comics#damian wayne#damian al ghul#i say might have bc you know dream theory for the win bby#but yeah#suck it up tim#sorry falling asleep#and just thought about how funny it iw#is#that people treat tim like such a child in that scene#when hes ligit like 2 /3 years younger then jason#but dont have nothing to say#about jason actually shooting a child#anyway i love villain jason#wish he did fucked up things again
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Tim Drake lovers I have a dozen serious questions about his character (from a Jason Todd lover); starting with a pretty heavy (but important) one:
Does he have body dysmorphia?
#tim drake#people say jason does and while i can see it i think its not something he directly thinks on so much as#he avoids mirrors and thinking about how small he used to be. like imo it comes up in serious episodes and then he represses it again#but with tim like... he seems like someone that would struggle with it not due to specifically how he looks but the spiraling that comes#with reigstering his own existence. and it not meshing well with his somehwat canon self hatred.#i know next to nothing abt him so someone that adores him pls go off im begginv#body dysmorphia#tw body dysmorphia#like in my head he is jealosy jealousy by olivia rodrigo and jason is teenage dream#like at least tell me if im right for putting pretty fly (for a white guy) by the offspring on his jams playlist
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