#to do with that show without getting uncomfortable so if the tva is there i especially wont be watching moon knight

[dervampireprince]

I just rewatched moonknight and your audios are literally the only thing keeping me alive in that somewhat dead fandom THANK YOU 😭😭🙏

i do feel adrift making moon knight stuff still so thank you

[loverz-buggerz]

AHHHH LOKI S.2 FINALE!!!!

I have many questions if anyone has answers or insights PLEASE LMK. I’m not even a goddamn tumblr user but I needed to find a place for ANSWERS!!!!

I NEED ANSWERS:

1. HWR had a palace which people could visit, why can’t Loki??

2. When Loki started time blipping before why did OB remember what happened with “past” Loki but that didn’t happen with all of them in the Finale?

3. After Loki had gone to the past why did it start “spaghettiafying” if he had gone back to before the timeline split

4. Why did all the TVA people get reset while Loki and Silvi (idk how to spell her name) didn’t?

5. What would have happened if Loki destroyed the loom without sitting there to rule it?

6. Why where the branches dying after he set them free

7. How was Loki able to start times slipping again?

8. How did Loki start time slipping in the first place

9. Is it assumed that HWR can time slip?? And we didn’t he use that.

Stupid questions:

7. I think this was answered and I missed it but what was Mobius’s plan? To take the life of himself like Wanda was trying to do? How would he get ID and stuff lol?

2. Does Loki have to sit in that uncomfortable ass looking marble chair for all eternity.

I can’t put my finger on what is is exactly but something feels left unanswered. Like how they just threw in creating a place outside of time? How did they just start doing that? It opens up so much within the story but it was just there to kind of make it work??

If I am missing anything or you have answers PLEASE LMK

I LOVED THIS SHOW SM

[full-of-malice]

wow. alright. just got through loki season two last night. here are my thoughts

alright so first and foremost. the ending was bullshit.

something something pretty imagery pain and suffering godlike potential and he wants to be a good god. i just. gods there are so many other ways you could've done that in a way that didn't reaffirm that loki would suffer alone forever. that he would be burdened with a glorious purpose til the end of time. he doesn't deserve that. loki has been through enough and finally deserves something akin to peace and happiness.

don't get me wrong as a norse mythology nerd the imagery in this episode was nice. some concepts were lovely. the time travel tie together of a lot of stuff at the end i appreciated it. but loki didn't and doesn't deserve pain and suffering. one of the points of the show is that you are not tethered to fate and that you can try and make your own choices and destiny and is fighting back against the predetermined.

i will also be bitter that we as a fandom got queerbaited. again. don't come over to me crying but serena a romance subplot would've been rushed it wouldn't logically have worked, oh serena not everything has to have romance. well sure. i know. but i also call bullshit. if the writers can cram in a drawn out uncomfortable ai x romance scene then i'm pretty certain that they can make two characters who already have chemistry kiss. it could be like. a five second scene. a quick kiss on the cheek. anything to confirm that they. were actually together. it wouldn't have taken much considering the characters already have chemistry unlike some which they somehow managed to squeeze in there [coughing sylki cough coughing]

queerbaiting in the fact that we as a fandom were robbed of our potential loki genderfluid representation, along with barely given the Concept of him being bisexual before instantly forced into a seemingly straight relationship that resembled a selfcest fic. [the scene where loki said if he won't come back and was going to say something to mobius before time slipping was queerbaiting and you can fight me on that] loki using he/him in the mcu is why i am primarily using those pronouns for him. pronouns don't equal gender, he can still be genderfluid and use only he/him pronouns. or if his character were to come out and prefer different terms those pronouns would be used. either way i'd be thrilled because finally genderfluid rep

okay um flashes mythology nerd badge lets get into some imagery that i enjoyed despite not. like. enjoying the end of the finale.

yggdrasil. in the norse mythology is a giant tree that all of the nine realms exist upon. this giant tree is ruled over and protected. okay yeah most people who know anything can see that imagery in the end of the show. this matters even more but i'll get to that soon.

the imagery of the throne reminds me of odin's throne in norse mythology. it was a grand all seeing throne that no one else but the king of gods was allowed to touch [that didn't stop of lot of people though]. and while my memory of this is a bit fuzzy it does remind me a lot of the throne used.

it even more reminds me of the punishment that was used against loki in norse mythology where the god was chained to a rock with a snake dripping burning venom of their face

alright back to yggdrasil imagery. the branches of multiverse and the like are pretty obvious meanings. but what really stuck out to me was rather the fact that in the first captain america movie with the red skull, the tesseract was found in a carving of yggdrasil.

loki then proceeds to fight over and chase after this tesseract desperately as one of his motives. only to end up in the tva. and for fate to have destine for him to destroy the loom and basically restore yggdrasil.

do i like this ending ? no not one bit loki deserves so much better. do i think the imagery is pretty ? sure i do i appreciate the touches but i do think it could've just as been as meaningful without loki being sent to eternal suffering.

don't get me wrong the show to me was enjoyable. i was excited for it each week, but it was hard to watch due to a lot of wasted potential, unneeded moments, scenes that made no sense, and so forth. and also the fact that it feels like they don't seem to care about a lot of the characters ? maybe that's just me but yk

[tyrannuspitch]

loki 2.02 thoughts

i hope ronald mcdonald gets eaten by tigers.

but genuinely it's boring and uncomfortable to keep gravitating to earth this way, especially with sylvie. she's jotun-asgardian and she could go anywhere in the entire universe. why is she in 1980s america. booo. if this show were good they would be going in the opposite direction to reveal the tva as a homogenising imperialist force and we would find out that like mobius was originally from 400s byzantium and b-15 was from vanaheim, or something.

not sure about the unethical police work lads. at this stage it feels kind of like "let's use villainy [abuse] for good uwu". but i will allow them the chance to develop and maybe move past that.

sylvie saying the tva is the problem. god i hope she's right. they just shouldn't have the tech they have! there is no reason for the ability to destroy a timeline to exist! what happened to burning it to the ground!!!

loki's moral dilemma seems to be. that he really can't accept pruning timelines. but he also can't accept multiversal war? he's lost the extremes of his ruthless streak. there's no calculation, everything just feels infinitely awful and there are no good options. (so he's not really contemplating genocide. he's just generally panicking.)

^but he's still ruthless enough to torture people. and there's no indication at all that he feels bad about it this time. when that was explicitly stated in s1. hm. on one hand. if the real loki tortured someone and felt bad about it, would we see that. on the other hand. this loki is the worst liar in the entire world.

^^likewise: the pro-multiverse tva faction have very suddenly and uncomplicatedly started seeing variants as people, but mobius has barely changed his methods at all..? so he wasn't okay with torture bc he thought variants weren't people. he's just. okay with torture.

the timeloom thing might just be time-wasting bullshit, but at this point i'm hoping the point will be: oh no, the tva will crumble without its literal foundations in genocide? okay, evacuate and let it crumble then. ragnarok two? (and see above: some of this tech should not exist!)

i'm glad we're talking about complicated feelings about original lives. now talk about loki's relationship to jotunheim or i'll blow this whole building up. (although at this stage idk if they're capable of doing it well or making me care. but whatever i don't have to accept that until episode six.)

idk i guess once again i'm just going to have to wait and see where they're going with most of this. /shrug

[twilightkitkat]

Logan wouldn't admit it but having Wade's body gives him a sense of security. Sometimes, when Wade (Peter) isn't there, he just sits down next to it and puts Wade's head on his shoulder and buries his face in his neck to remember what it feels like to hold him.

Of course, Wade's consciousness matters to Logan, but it's uncomfortable when he's so used to Wade being Wade. He recognizes his scent and voice and footsteps and touch. While the new Wade has the same mannerisms... sometimes it's hard. His instincts don't quite recognize him yet. He'll spin on his heel ready to attack because Peter has a different weight distribution and sound than Wade and has to consciously remind himself it's him.

Wade and Logan fighting side by side would be shocking to all of the Avengers and Peter's family. Because since when did Spiderman use katanas (and was that web-slinging gun)? And why do they fight like they've known each other for years, like they're perfectly in sync? It gives the Avengers who are all also part of the battle pause because they've been together for over a decade and don't have this level of teamwork. The instinct to know exactly where the other is and how to coordinate attacks without even saying anything.

When they finally finished their screaming match, they would stare at each other heaving for air. Logan would shrink in on himself a little and mutter that he just misses him and their life together and wants to go back to it. Wade would deflate and cave on the spot, reaching out to hug him as Logan collapsed into his arms. He eases himself down onto the ground while holding him until they're basically curled up in a ball together in the aftermath of the wreckage.

Eventually, when the dust is settled and Wade has Logan's arm slung over his shoulder as they treat, Tony corners them. Demands an explanation because what the fuck was that (both the fighting and the yelling).

Wade just tiredly looks at him, weighing his options, before just saying it. "I'm not really. Peter. Never have been."

And Tony's breath catches and he interrogates him further and Wade replies, "I'm just a mercenary who sometimes works for the TVA and I was sent here to fix your timeline. Unfortunately, good ol' Spidey kicked the bucket right as I showed up and he was the anchor being. So I had to channel my inner theater kid and get shit back on track."

And Tony is shocked. Because this whole time, Peter wasn't Peter? The real Peter, the one he should've known, was dead. And the "Peter" he met was an exhausted, insane, 50-year-old immortal mercenary? And Logan was pretty much his husband.

...No wonder he didn't seem to care about morals even when he claimed to want to "help the little guy." No wonder he was into shady shit and knew way more about the black market than anyone had the right to. No wonder he and Logan were so attached at the hip.

He felt angry and shocked but most of all, hurt. Hurt that Wade never trusted him (but still told Blind Al and Logan). Hurt that the kid he cared about was apparently dead. Hurt that the man possessing him who he'd grown attached to planned to leave. And didn't seem to care back.

...The whole thing was a shitshow. (Especially when Tony realized that Peter's Aunt didn't know, and had to weigh his moral obligation on whether or not to tell her. Especially when Tony had to live with the knowledge that Wade would leave the first second he could.)

Hear me out y'all, I've been talking about multiverse shenanigans lately so what if Wade literally became Spiderman?

The TVA sent Wade on a mission to protect the anchor being of another universe, Spiderman. Except... there was a small hiccup. Wade got there right as Spiderman died. He was officially brain-dead, even if his blood was still circulating.

So, naturally, the TVA employee in charge of this universe panicked and fucked things up further. By putting Wade's conscience into Spiderman. Hooray!!

Now time to undo this shit and get back to his universe. Except... that doesn't happen. Because the portal closes and he's stuck here, with his own fucking vegetative state body. While he's in the body of Spiderman. Shit.

Fuck the TVA. And their shitty employees lie to cover their own asses and hide the fact that Wade just replaced the anchor being of another universe.

And Wade... has to pretend to be him, for better or worse. Because the mission was to get this timeline roughly where the Sacred Timeline left off. Or it'd collapse. With him in it.

(Which he thought he could do by saving Spiderman and letting him make the same decisions as he did originally, but noooooo. Now he has to imitate Peter and remember what the hell he did in the Sacred Timeline. Thank God for the fourth wall, because Wade does not share the same decision-making process as this guy.)

And Wade manages. Poorly. Especially when he has to hide his own body in the closet, which is miraculously still breathing.

But he tries! He attends high school for the first time in forever (yikes) and somehow manages to not flunk out, he acclimates himself to Peter's powers, goes web-slinging (with a much better costume, thank you), and talks to all of the right people. He manages all of Peter's tasks while trying not to focus on how much he misses his home and how he wishes Logan were here.

But it's insanely awkward. Especially when the people around him notice how weird he's been acting. Namely Peter's best friend and aunt. (And that's a whole other can of worms that Wade's trying his best to avoid.)

He nearly fucking stabs Flash with his pencil when he made fun of him, only held back by Ned tugging at his arm and asking what was wrong. (He does, however, steal his clothes after gym. Payback.) And he kind of forgets to get with MJ, oopsies! Not his type. (Especially with the whole teenager thing. And the fact that he's already kind of in love with someone. Who he misses incredibly and sometimes wonders if they'll come for him...)

He manages to meet Tony Stark around the same time as Peter and wow this is awkward. Because Wade knows what the Accords are and quite frankly, is very vehemently against them. But he grumbles and reluctantly goes with him. And manages to do a lot more damage than the original Spiderman, huh. Guess his years of experience stacked up well against a literal teenager.

His relationship with Tony would be especially interesting. Because in the original timeline, it was almost paternal. But Wade is not shopping for father figures, especially ones who are around his age and not nearly as experienced, so he manages to laugh it off. (Even if it does feel nice, privately, to be cared for.)

Everything comes to a head when Wade's staring blankly at the board in class, trying to will himself to focus. Until the teacher says a new student is coming in. Wade's been here for a few years now and he's now 18 and it's his senior year. (...It's weird to think he'd actually go to college. And it won't even fucking transfer back home, so it's all for nothing.) Point is, nobody transfers senior year.

So he looks up with vague curiosity to see a younger version of Logan.

What the fuck.

He didn't keep incredibly close tabs on the X-men of this universe (partially out of respect, partially out of fear) he knew that they were all alive. They were more adamant about wearing masks and "protecting their identity" in this world so there wasn't much information. But apparently, Logan was just as young-looking as in the first X-men movie. Hugh Jackman really was fine, back then.

But what the hell was Logan doing in high school? Even in another universe, it's a central plot point that he's over 200 years old. He just looks young. (Not that Wade is much, sporting the middle-aged man-turned-teenager look.)

Until Logan's eyes fix on him. He was looking at him with very intense emotion in his eyes, something Wade couldn't exactly name.

Not until he's shoved up against the locker in some shitty corner, claws pressed against his neck as Logan snarls at him and asks where the fuck was Wade and what did he do with him.

And Wade doesn't know whether to laugh or cry. Because, on one hand, this is objectively hilarious and he's really happy to see his Logan had somehow possessed this one. But on the other hand, he kind of isn't immortal right now and he doesn't want to test his luck.

So he manages to spit out the story. And Logan stares at him with shock and then trepidation and then genuine relief and suddenly he's hugging him and clinging to him and burying his face in his neck and oh shit is he crying?

They stay there even as the next bell rings, dropping to the floor and just sitting together.

All goes well until Ned comes looking and finds Wade with Logan leaning against him, head on his shoulder, and holding his hand. And now he has to explain to his aunt, to his best friend, and to his mentor who the fuck Logan was and why he's following him everywhere now. ("Don't worry! Him and I go wayyyyy back, he's been my online friend for years. He just transferred here recently, sorry I forgot to say haha...")

And then it just devolves into everyone being vaguely shocked as Logan and Wade act super affectionate while trying to figure out how the hell to escape the timeline. Not that Wade doesn't appreciate not being in pain constantly, but he kinda has a life back there. And yeah, these people are attached to him (and he's started to care too) but they don't really know him. They just know he suddenly became a master in fighting and insanely competent (and kind of fucking crazy) one night after getting a concussion. Hell, Mr. Stark only met him in the suit for the first half of their relationship because Wade was wayyy better at keeping his identity a secret than Peter.

It'd just be interesting to see how canon would diverge and how the characters would react to Logan suddenly coming in and insisting on being a fucking guard dog at all times. Everyone is vaguely concerned and thinks that "Peter" is in a toxic relationship where the other party is demanding until they see how reciprocal it is. (And what the hell?) And how they seem to get each other and make odd references and somehow share the same edgy humor brand.

[tom-whore-dleston]

How would _______ react to you writing smut for their characters

Pairing: Tom Hiddleston x fem!reader, Simu Liu x fem!reader, Tom Holland x fem!reader

Genre: smut-ish headcanon

*18+ only; please do not consume if you are younger than 18 years old*

Warnings: mention of smut (explicit and non explicit), implied smut, sexual tension, a lil bit of fluff, reactions vary between the three guys

*Please note that you are responsible for your own media consumption. If any of these warnings trigger you or make you uncomfortable, please do not read!*

Summary: You are dating one of Jordan’s Top 3 daddies and they find out you write smut for their Marvel characters.

Word Count: 1743

Notes: Thought I would let out some uncensored thoughts I had about my Top 3 finding out reader writes smut. I may be in the middle of midterm szn but that ain't gonna stop me from being my usual w word self 😂😂Thank you to the lovely and magical @magicxc for beta reading! I was literally brainfarting over simple things but I am grateful for your insight 🥰😘 also can we talk real quick about how gd fine these men look lol they really do be my muses :') i forgot to watermark my collage so don't steal or I'll cry

Tom Hiddleston

Tom finding the smut you have written about Loki was a total accident. While your laptop was getting repaired, you were forced to use Tom’s over the next few days. During that time, you casually browsed Tumblr and other websites alike. You oftentimes forgot that Tom’s laptop was not your own. Without thinking much about it, you closed his laptop before hopping into the shower.

While you showered, Tom jumped onto the bed belly first and opened up his laptop. His original intent was to check and respond to his emails. That was until he found something that was only meant for your eyes. He was puzzled to find a document that looked like a short story. Curious, he continued reading what you have written so far.

Twenty minutes later, you walked into the bedroom, freshly cleaned and only in your towel, when you stumbled upon Tom lying on the bed, his blue eyes fixated on the laptop in front of his face. That was when you remembered you forgot to exit out of your doc of the President Loki and TVA Loki threesome fic you were in the middle of writing.

You were ready to pounce on the bed to yank the laptop out of his reach. Sure it was his laptop, but he was also looking at your smut about his characters. That all changed when your eyes laid upon Tom, realizing his typically sweet face was glossed over with mischief.

“Tom,” you began, “let me explain-” Tom shook his head and shushed you with a calloused finger.

“Well, darling, I knew you really enjoyed the show, but I had no idea you enjoyed it this much,” Tom chuckled. “Is that why you were upset that I cut my hair and dyed it back to brown?”

Your mouth fell agape and sweat trickled from your body even after showering. Tom took note of your reaction, a laugh bubbling from his chest. He scooted closer to you at the edge of the bed, wrapping his hands around your towel covered body.

Tom pushed you onto the bed gracefully, switching positions with you. You bit your lip as he towered over you and trapped your wrists above your head with one of his strong hands. His other hand gently stroked your cheek, his hard knuckles contrasting against your silky skin.

All of a sudden, the towel unraveled from your body, revealing your naked form. Your legs naturally spread open for him, revealing your already wet cunt to him. Tom licked his lips, the bulge in his pants becoming more apparent through his jeans.

“Such a dirty girl,” he growled as if Tom had completely immersed himself into Loki. “Can’t decide which of me she wants.” At that point, all traces of Tom had left in his face, voice, or body language. It was all Loki. Not that it bothered you one bit.

“Would you prefer the TVA variant? Or the President variant?” he inquired before grazing his teeth against your earlobe. You couldn’t bring yourself to answer him. Only a faint moan escaped your lips. His signature Loki laugh filled the room, his blue eyes darkening into an ocean storm.

“No matter, I will still have you writhing for your god,” your boyfriend hissed before drinking up your famous last words with a fiery kiss.

That night, he managed to incorporate both TVA Loki and President Loki in bed. At one point, you may have accidentally screamed for Loki rather than Tom. Fortunately, that didn’t stop Tom from pounding into you over and over acting as the two Lokis. You were also able to finally finish the threesome fic the next morning, thanks to Tom’s hands on inspiration.

Simu Liu

The keys of your laptop clicked away as you typed away at your newest work. You had spent the last three hours working on a Shang-Chi smut. An extremely dirty thought randomly popped into your head after watching the movie. You had no one to discuss it with so writing was your best outlet to unleash those ideas.

You were so laser focused on wrapping up the sex scene that you didn’t hear heavy footsteps trail into the kitchen. Simu just woke up from a nap and comes into the kitchen wearing only a pair of gym shorts

Writing your fics while Simu napped was the best time for you to write because he wouldn’t know about the filthy thoughts you had about his character. Even though you and Simu had pretty open communication, writing smut was one thing you preferred to keep to yourself. Especially since that smut was about his character.

The corner of your lips curved upward and you giggled to yourself as you finished writing the climax of your piece. No pun intended.

“What’s got my pretty girl smiling like that?” Simu interrogated while trying to read your face from behind the laptop.

“Huh, what?” you muttered with a puzzled expression. Simu chuckled softly when you met his gaze.

“Is there another meme of me? I wanna see-”

You slammed your laptop shut, trying to hide your expression. Simu jumped in surprise and confusion.

“Oh it’s nothing,” you lied, shrugging off his wonder. “Just work stuff.”

“Yeah, you were smiling over your editing job that you were complaining about hours ago. C’mon, babe, I’ve seen a lot of memes about me and it only makes my skin thicker. Just lemme see.” You tried to protest but he snatched the laptop from your grasp with ease. Damn his strong arms and fast instincts.

He opened the laptop and the screen blinked, displaying the white screen with the words of your x-rated Shang-Chi piece. Simu balanced the laptop in one hand while angling the screen for easier reading.

You wanted to be upset that he was reading something that was only meant for your eyes, along with the eyes of many strangers from your blog. The thing was, you couldn’t even bring yourself to stop him. You just watched everything unfold. Your eyebrows tightened into a thin line as you chewed on your lip, questioning if you were ready to let him into your secret world of fanfiction writing.

His eyes scanned over the written work, widening at how it progressively got filthier. He smirked deviously, rereading a particularly nasty part of the fic. Was he actually liking what you wrote about his character? You tried to reach for your laptop but he scooted away from you, sitting in the chair across from you.

“This one is my favorite part,” he cleared his throat, “‘Shang-Chi yanked your panties off with his teeth, your arousal still sticking to the fabric even as it slid down your legs.’” Both yours and Simu’s cheeks warmed up as he read that line aloud. He hummed in satisfaction and lowered the top of the laptop so he could get a better look at you.

“Well, it looks like I did a good job as Shang-Chi if you’re all hot and bothered by him,” Simu taunted, licking his lips. You knew the gears in his head were turning and you tried to avoid his gaze, which only egged him on, a smug smirk plastered on his face.

His arms extended out as if preparing to give you a hug. “Come here, baby. There’s nothing to be shy about.” You reluctantly walked to the other side of the table. The first thing you notice is the apparent bulge poking through Simu’s shorts.

Your pussy clenches around nothing, staring at his package through the thin material. Simu pat his thigh, motioning you to sit on his lap. As you did, your breath hitched as your now wet slit brushed against his hardening cock. His lips hovered over the shell of your ear, his next words causing you to shudder.

“How about you show me more of what is on that dirty, little mind of yours. I want to know all the things that turn my pretty girl on.”

Tom Holland

“Hey, love, you know the site Tumblr right?” Tom asked randomly during Sunday brunch. This caused you to choke on your mimosa, thankfully not causing a scene in the middle of the restaurant. When Tom asked if you were okay, you just heaved a giant breath and nodded.

“Yeah, I know what Tumblr is,” you responded, taking another sip of your mimosa to ease your anxiety. “Why do you ask?”

“So one of the mates sent me one of the blogs on there. This one blog in particular writes these fun little stories about me...well, actually, my characters. I believe they’re called fanfiction, right? Anyways, some of the stories they write are really...ummm what’s the word...graphic. In a sexual way.”

His rambling only increased your anxiety. Luckily, it was a bottomless mimosa so you refilled your glass with the pitcher of juice and champagne.

“Really?” you paused nervously, your heart pumping outside your chest. “What’s the blog?”

Tom showed you the screen of his phone.

Fuck!

The blog he was referring to was your own. You had the blog way before you started dating Tom. In fact, you were one of the most popular fanfic writer blogs on the site. Once you started dating Tom, you made it your mission to hide all traces of your blog from him. How could one of his friends have found it?

“Oh, cool!” was all you could muster up as your blood ran cold.

“Yeah, actually, it’s quite flattering. No offense, love, but I do receive a lot of sexual comments, but to write a story- I mean, fanfiction- about me. It’s interesting. I should read it to you and we can-”

“No, no, that’s okay.” You chugged the rest of your mimosa. You proceeded to refill it and take another sip. Meanwhile, Tom was oblivious to your nervousness.

“You know what, if it’s alright with you, I should write to this blog. Tell them that their writing is so good that it has inspired me to be better in bed-”

You slammed your palm flat on the table. Tom jumped in his seat at the loud noise.

“Tom, stop talking.”

“I’m sorry, love, did I go too far?”

“Tom, that’s my blog! I wrote those fanfictions about you!” Tom stared at you in disbelief. You sighed, sinking into your seat.

“I had that blog years before I met you. When we started dating, I didn’t want you to know about it because I thought I would scare you away. I didn’t want you to think I was just another fan.”

Tom reached his hand out for you to grab. You eased against his touch, warmth flooding to your cheeks.

“Seeing that you liked the stories so much, I guess I had nothing to be ashamed of.” You laughed, setting down your glass.

“Of course, you have nothing to be ashamed of. I love them even more knowing that you wrote them for me. And now, I know exactly how to please you.” He motioned your waiter over to your table, requesting the bill.

“Think you and I should reenact some of your works when we get back to the flat, yeah?”

*Thanks for reading :) Reblogs and comments are greatly appreciated. Your responses are what keep me motivated to write. However, please do not repost or translate my work anywhere.*

[caffiend-queen]

Caffiend’s Masterlist

Welcome to my masterlist- there’s all kinds of Tom Hiddleston tales from Jaguar Tom to Loki. Steve Rogers and James Bucky Barnes show up as everything from Vampire!Stucky to Dark Avengers, post-apocalyptic Avengers, soft and sweet and more. Thanks as always for reading.

Tom Hiddleston - Loki - Night Manager - Jaguar Villains - High Rise

“Everyone has a Vice, Pine. What is Yours?” Night Manager fandom

Chapter One: I Expect To Be In Charge

Chapter Two: You Will Call Me Daddy

Chapter Three: Bad Girls Do Not Get To Come

Chapter Four: So Much Time, So Little To Control

Chapter Five: An Uncomfortable Lunch

Chapter Six: The Moon Is Full

Chapter Seven: Why Do You All Have Kitty Names?

Chapter Eight: Your Name Is Sirène

Chapter Nine: Author’s Note

Chapter Ten: “You’re Not Important Enough To Hate”

Chapter Eleven: Run Like the Devil is After You

Chapter Twelve: Twelve Days

Chapter Thirteen: Lunch with the Freak Show

Chapter Fourteen: Straight, Like A Soldier

Chapter Fifteen: The Demonstration

Chapter Sixteen: Yes, Daddy. Yours

Chapter Seventeen: An Uncomfortable Shopping Spree

Chapter Eighteen: You Came For Me

Chapter Nineteen: Erasing the Bruises

Chapter Twenty:  Sirène, Secret Agent

Chapter Twenty-One: Hope was not a Thing for a Man Like Him

Chapter Twenty-Two: “Oh, HELL No!”

Complete

She is my Only Vice: the sequel to Everyone has a Vice, Pine…

The Night Manager fandom

Chapter One:  “Are you ready for me, Agent Rogers? We have much to discuss.”

Chapter Two: “It’s Just an Act.”

Chapter Three: I do not Share My Pets.

Chapter Four: Right Back Where We Started

Chapter Five: Pets Don’t Eat at the Table

Chapter Six: “Green, Daddy.”

Chapter Seven: Overboard

Chapter Eight: The Plane. The Agent. The Explosives.

Chapter Nine: Two Cases of EPX-1 and Tchaikovsky Overture 1812

Chapter Ten: When Everything Turns to Complete Crap

Chapter Eleven: Singed Lingerie & Stolen Firetrucks

Chapter Twelve: The Sex Voice

In Progress

The Reluctant Bride: Jaguar Villains - Night Manager fandom

Chapter One: It’s Time You Took A Wife, My Boy

Chapter Two: The Job Interview

Chapter Three: Crying Doesn’t Solve Anything

Chapter Four: I Am All That You Have Right Now

Chapter Five: No Diggety

Author’s note

Not Going To Happen - Jaguar Villains - Thomas Pine

Chapter One - Welcome To The Blood Room - I Mean, Boardroom

Chapter Two -  "You Pay Me Enough, Mr. Pine."

Chapter Three -  Call Me Sir

Chapter Four - I Do So Enjoy Watching You Blush

Chapter Five -  I'll Protect You From Everything But Me

Chapter Six - I Hate You/I Don’t Care

In Progress

TVA? F.U.

Chapter One: Regarding the activity in Judgement Chamber 362-A

Chapter Two: Until the Fabric of Time and Space Are Torn Asunder

Chapter Three:  Like An Escapee From a Renaissance Faire…

Chapter Four:  Again and Again and Again...

In Progress

Haust Blot: A Loki Halloween tale

1. Where Are Mom’s Ashes?

2. She’s No Snow White

3. The Long Night

4. The Light of Day

Complete

One, or the Other: A Crimson Peak - Only Lovers Left Alive

Halloween Special

1. It’s Much Too Late To Say No

2. You Belong to Me, Now

3. You’ve Started Without Me

4. Daddy is so Pleased with You

5. The Wolf and the Dragon

6. Sixty Minute Man

7. One, or the Other, My Darling

Complete

The Christmas Party - Loki, Avengers, “Holidays in Hel” series

Chapter One: A Date? A Prince of Asgard does not Ask for a Date

Chapter Two: I’m Mr. Heat Miser

I’ll Break Your Heart Before You Break Mine - A Loki - Avengers Valentine’s Day tale “Holidays in Hel” series

What Are You Doing On New Year’s Eve? - A Loki - Avenger’s tale from the ‘Holidays in Hel’ series

“Do Not Say ‘Always After My Lucky Charms’ or I Will Stab You” A St. Patrick’s Day - Avengers Holidays in Hel tale

Oh, I Could Just... EAT YOU UP! Halloween Holidays in Hel Series

Chapter One: When Did Unicorn Poop Become a Thing?

The Dragon Bride - A “Springtime with Loki” one-shot

“I’m right here, honey…” A Tom on Broadway ask - Complete

That Old Black Magic - CEO Tom ask from @imanuglywombat

1. He’s Here Again.

2. Only For You

Taming the Beast - A Captain James Conrad Sex Pollen tale from Kong: Skull Island

Chapter One: I Beg Your Pardon?

Chapter Two: Hotter Than a Jalapeno’s Coochie

Chapter Three: Like Two Weasels in a Wool Sock

Chapter Four: Well... Shit Fire and Save the Matches

Chapter Five: That Scaly Son of a Bee Sting!

In Progress

The Succubus Series: On Your Knees

Chapter One -  Bucky: I'm just sittin’ here waiting for you, to come on home and turn me on...

Chapter Two- Loki: Now then, darling, what exactly are you?

Avengers - Dark!Steve Dark!Bucky - Snowpiercer

Don’t Make A Sound - Treehouse story for Ugliest Wombat’s Challenge

Dark!Steve and Dark!Bucky MCU Dark Universe

Chapter One: The Growls. The Screaming. The Laughter.

Chapter Two: Call Me Captain

Chapter Three: Good Girls do as They’re Told

Chapter Four: Incendiary

Epilogue: Welcome to the Jungle

Complete

“There’s no saying goodbye to me.”

A Dark!Steve, Dark!Bucky Avengers tale

Chapter One: “There’s no saying goodbye to me.”

Chapter Two: “I came back for YOU.”

Chapter Three: Where You Belong

Chapter Four: The White Room

Chapter Five: The Waterfall

Chapter Six: Swimming with the Sharks

In Progress

That Which Is Lost: Loki and Dark!Steve Avengers: Endgame

Chapter One:  “There’s no need for that kind of talk.”

Chapter Two: That Star-Spangled Son of a Bitch!

Chapter Three: The “V” Card

Chapter Four: “As Soon As You Say Please, Sir”

Chapter Five:  Good Girl

In Progress

The Front End Isn’t Running the Show Anymore. It’s Time You Learned That.” Snowpiercer: Chris Evans fandom - Complete

Chapter One:  “The front end isn’t running the show anymore. It’s time you learned that.”

Chapter Two: Navigating the After

Hell Night: @jtargaryen18​‘s Haunted House 2020 challenge - Complete

Snowpiercer: Chris Evans fandom

Chapter One: The Last Ticket

Chapter Two: Don’t Look At Them. Look At Me.

Chapter Three: The Meat Locker

Chapter Four: The Frying Pan. The Rescue. The Shower.

Sing, Banshee -  Avengers, Loki

Chapter One: You Have Got To Be Fucking Kidding Me

Chapter Two: Muzzled

Chapter Three: I Promise to Try

Chapter Four: Getting to Know You…

Chapter Five: The Correction

Chapter Six: Dancing on Broken Glass

Chapter Seven: Lab Rats, Bank Accounts and Glorious Penetration

Chapter Eight: Like An Angry Ginger Bloodhound

Chapter Nine: I’m the Man

Chapter Ten: I’ll Be Seeing You

Chapter Eleven: Fiona Meets the Black Widow

Chapter Twelve: Somebody to Love

Chapter 13: “You’ve Suffered Worse.”

Chapter 14: I Dare Far Greater Than You. Can. Imagine.

Chapter 15: Myths and Legends. And Apologies.

Chapter 16: A Sky Full Of Stars

Chapter 17: Girl’s Night

Chapter 18: A Bedtime Story

Chapter 19: Don’t Stand So Close To Me

Chapter 20: As I Spit On Your Grave

Chapter 21: I Know His Name Now. I See His Face.

Chapter 22: A Song Of Ireland

Chapter 23: Starry, Starry Night

Chapter 24: Blackbird

Chapter 25: We Will Rock You

Chapter 26: My Sky Full Of Stars

Chapter 27: “I Did Too Die!”

Complete

It’ll Be Good For You - A Dark!Steve, Dark!Bucky tale -  Complete

Chapter One: What the Hell was That?

Chapter Two: A Visit to the Ha-Ha Hotel

Chapter Three: Make Me

Chapter Four: Nothing Darker

Chapter Five: I Revoke My Invitation

Chapter Six: Just A Taste

Dark James ‘Bucky’ Barnes

Feed, or Fuck? - Complete

Chapter One: The Game

Chapter Two: The Writing Under His Skin

Chapter Three: You Know the Game, Doll…

Chapter Four: The Bloodsucker’s Rave

Chapter Five: The Blood Countess

Chapter Six: The Illustrated Woman

Chapter Seven: Stares Into Space Like A Dead China Doll...

Chapter Eight: Betrayal

Chapter Nine: Only Human

Chapter Ten: From One Life to the Next

Chapter Eleven: The Letters in Silver Script

Complete

The Birdcage - Dystopian Vampire!Bucky Barnes

Chapter One: A Thousand Ravenous Little Mouths...

Chapter Two: Eyes Bled Gold

Chapter Three: In Utero Sacris

In Flight…

A Bucky a/b/o story - Complete

Chapter One: In Flight

Chapter Two: You’re Safe With Me, Omega

Chapter Three: Up on the Roof

My Voice in the Darkness - Gorgeous Tongue-Kissing Bucky

Promises Made, Promises Kept (Asshole Steve, Wonderful Bucky) - Complete

Chapter One: Promises Made

Chapter Two: Promises Kept

Hot, Like Fire - Bucky - Complete

Of Course it’s a Sex Position, Captain Vanilla - sex fiend Steve Rogers written together with the Goddess of all Things Smut, @imanuglywombat​

Happy Birthday, Baby

The Smut Butt Luxury Yacht Writing Challenge - for @imanuglywombat​ and @dreamlessinparis​

Chapter One: Blindfolds are for the bedroom, not for surprises.

Chapter Two: We’re Doing What?

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If you can’t find what you’re looking for here, please remember all my work is on Archive of Our Own.

[sillylovingpupper]

Okay, we can agree on points 1 and 4, so I'll spare my followers the color of the sky treatment.

Oh right, readmores. Okay.

As for Mobius being abused… where? When does this happen in the show?

His memory was erased, and he was literally filled with propaganda that he had no way to disprove. That's abuse. I should know, I had the same thing happen to me. Minus the memory erasing. As far as I know.

The abuse of Loki being presented as funny (I disagree that Loki was out of character in this...entirely; like, he was OOC for Avengers!Loki which is weird to me, but IC for IW!Loki, so I just assume the writers forgot this was A!Loki) ...that is, unfortunately, the kind of humor that DisneyMarvel is doing now. It's gross, it sucks, and I was uncomfortable the entire way. 2 and 3 is like...nn. I'd need to read the interviews in question, and I don't trust secondhand information, so that would be some research. rubs her face I'm running out of spoons, so I'll bottomline this ...I think Loki is unfinished, for one. I hope it is. Loki himself was advocating to keep the TVA running by the end, which indicates some fucked up character direction. In my view, Mobius realizing that he had been brainwashed was an important character moment, and from that point (admittedly there wasn't a lot) he refused to take further part in the TVAs shenanigans and actually helped destroy the Sacred Timeline. So to me, this was a show about taking down fascism. If Loki S2 is really about rebuilding the TVA like... I'll be disappointed, but I won't be surprised, with DisneyMarvel. It is just...amazing to me how hard they try to write in characters more diverse, and completely miss the point of the diversity in the first place. I'm sure I'm going to get anon hate for that last line, but it really does encapsulate the problem I'd have: taking this concept of marginalized people gaining power and just kind of...throwing it away and only leaving "marginalized people" in the movie, without the social commentary that has always been a part of this storytelling. DisneyMarvel sucks because they're too afraid to be truly bold.

Loki series is basically 1984, except that in Loki, the fasists are framed as the good guys

Even the stripping is here

[iamanartichoke]

Well that didn’t last fucking long, lmao. I hate myself. 

I can’t help it - I’m really flailing about the latest tv spot - namely, The Scene. I made a very rash post (at 4am) shaming people who found it hot bc naked Tom, and it’s distressing me so much bc I do not make a habit of shaming anyone for their attractions or kinks or ships or whatever. I feel really bad about it. I (kinda) apologized on the op, but idk how many people saw it. 

What happened here was that I saw Loki being violated (stripping someone without their consent, especially in such a rushed fashion, is violating) and the tone of the tv spot made it seem like it was “hey check out this funny thing that the TVA does to Loki!” and then on top of that, the collective approval from the fandom bc “shirtless/nakey Loki” was just too much for my brain. 

I’ve gone back and rewatched the tv spot a couple of times, taken a deep breath, and now want to make it clear that my issue is with the show, not the fandom. 

I mean, the thing is - I get what they’re trying to do, obviously. By stripping him of his armor (literally, but also figuratively stripping him of his armor, ie his protective shell, his dignity - he’s both physically and emotionally naked), they’re making him new again. It’s the same thing Ragnarok did to Thor - strip him of his hammer, of his hair, of his long flowing cape, of his eye, symbolizing that the old Thor is gone and a new Thor has emerged. It’s the same thing here - everything that was familiar about Loki is being taken away, and a new Loki emerges. Like, I get that. It’s not the most subtle symbolism. 

The problem is that they do it in a way that feels degrading. They literally rip his clothes from him. His protests go unnoticed/unacknowledged. He’s utterly powerless either to stop it or to react to it bc, before he can even fully get his protests out, he’s being dropped through the floor. 

And I don’t even necessarily have a problem with that - the process of dehumanizing a person, taking their identity from them, when they’re imprisoned is par for the course and is part of what makes the experience of being imprisoned so awful - if the narrative shows us it’s a bad thing. I get the impression, from the way it’s shown in the tv spot, that we’re supposed to be like - the best comparison I can think of is when Thor is going through the tunnel-thingy in Ragnarok and fucking Willy Wonka is playing while he’s just “wtf” and it’s amusing. Except in this case instead of getting a ride down a tunnel, Loki is forced out of his clothing and dropped through a series of levels (which is also not super subtle symbolism - the ground beneath Loki’s feet is unstable; the rug’s been pulled out from under him in this new situation he’s found himself in). 

It’s just that I find it a deeply uncomfortable thing, and it’s not funny, and shouldn’t be played for laughs. 

Now, I fully recognize that I could be wrong. That it’s misleading on purpose. The rest of the tv spot did feel very creepy, admittedly. Loki seeing someone literally get erased from existence, his fading screams clashing with the cheerful ‘let us know how we’re doing!’ DMV-esque nightmare of Miss Minutes, is genuinely disturbing. If the stripping scene is tonally similar - something that the audience is clearly supposed to feel unnerved about, just bc of how violating it is - then that’s one thing. I’m just not holding out very much hope for that. 

Anyway, like I said, I’m very distressed and idk if I’m making sense or not but there we are. I need June 9 to hurry up and get here so that I can watch the pilot and at least know, one way or another, if I’m going to like this show or if I’m going to hate it. The emotional whiplash is really messing with my head. 

[mad4marvelloki]

Trapped In The TVA

This is a short story based off part of the trailer for the upcoming Loki show. The image of him restrained really got my imagination going. Here he’s in his cell in the TVA when he gets a visit. Hope you enjoy!

Warnings; smut, teasing, climax denial.18+ only please!

Loki looked around himself, his eyes darting. The collar around his neck was uncomfortable and his arms were starting to ache from being tied behind his back. There had to be a way out of here. He would work it out – he always did. He smirked to himself. He would make them pay. As he had told the man with the ridiculous name he would burn this place to the ground.

There was a shimmer of gold then she was stood before him. His smirk turned to a grin. They could always find each other, no matter how far apart they were.

‘Hello love. Would you oblige?’ He turned slightly to draw her attention to the handcuffs.

‘Hmm... I think not.’

He narrowed his eyes. ‘And, pray tell, why not?’

‘The last time we were together, I seem to recall being denied my satisfaction. For far too long.’

His smirk returned. ‘Come on love, you know me.’ He shrugged his shoulders. ‘What do you expect?’

She narrowed her own eyes.

‘I do not expect to be denied my climax by you taunting me. To bring me to the edge over and over but not let me have it. To make me beg. It’s rather degrading, love.’ Her words dripped venom.

‘So now I’m going to make you beg.’

It was starting to occur to Loki that he might have made a mistake. The timing of what he had last done in the bedroom with her certainly wasn’t great.

She waved her hand and in another golden shimmer a chair appeared. She pushed him backwards and he half fell onto it. She stalked towards him and lowered herself onto his lap. She ground her crotch against his.

‘I do so love to see you tied up.’ she whispered in his ear, her breath tickling him.

She wound her hands into his hair, tugging gently as she nibbled his earlobe. She moved to his neck, trailing kisses down his soft skin.

He shivered - she knew all the places on his body that were the most sensitive, knew just how to drive him wild.

She moved to his mouth, gently sliding her tongue between his lips and exploring his mouth. He kissed her back hungrily, their tongues dancing together, fighting for dominance.

He felt her hand brush him just there. She smiled against his lips. There was no mistaking the growing bulge in his pants.

She broke the kiss and looked at him imploringly.

‘Loki, I need you. I’ve been empty for so long - I miss your hard length inside me, your cum filling me.’

He twitched in his pants, starting to get uncomfortable. He was wearing tight leather that afforded no room for growth.

‘Please, I beg of you, fuck me!’ She moved her mouth to his ear and whispered ‘my King.’

She knew exactly what it did to him to be called that, especially from her lips.

‘Love.’ He panted. ‘Trousers.’

‘Oh dear!’ she cried in mock horror. ‘Are those sexy leather pants of yours suddenly too tight?’ She smirked. ‘I did tell you I would make you. Beg.’

‘Never!’ He growled.

‘Very well. I guess I’ll just have to do this without you.’ She grinned wickedly, knowing it wouldn’t be long before he would cave.

She slowly lifted her top to reveal her naked breasts. His eyes locked onto them and he moved to touch her, frustrated when he was unable to due to the cuffs. She laughed softly.

She stroked her nipples until they hardened then caressed her body, letting out soft moans as she undressed herself.

His eyes followed her every movement. She dipped her hand between her legs, capturing some of her wetness. She showed it to him.

‘Look what you do to me.’ She whispered. She sucked her fingers clean and looked at him imploringly. ‘Loki - my God, my King, I need you inside me. So bad.’ She ground against him again, eliciting a moan from him.

‘Love.’ His tone was warning.

‘Yes, my King?’

‘That’s enough.’

She chuckled. ‘It will never be enough, we both know that. We will never get enough of each other.’

He smiled for a moment despite his predicament. ‘I know.’

His eyes widened as her hand lowered again and she stroked her clit, letting out filthy moans, teasing the pleasure from her body. Her hand moved backwards and she slipped a finger inside herself. She started to pump her finger in and out, moaning even louder.

‘Please.’ He whispered.

‘What was that? I couldn’t hear you.’ She grinned, enjoying taunting him and getting her revenge.

He cleared his throat. ‘P - please.’

‘Pardon?’

‘Please!’ He cried out.

‘Please what?’

‘Please, my Goddess!’

‘Good boy.’

She waved her hand and he was naked, revealing his pulsing cock, leaking pre-cum in his excitement. She sank down onto him and he cried out in ecstasy. She always felt heavenly. So warm, wet, and tight.

She started to ride him, his eyes on her jiggling breasts as their joined moans filled the room. His mouth fastened onto a nipple, nipping and licking until she cried out.

‘Yes! My King!’ She tightened around him, her high getting closer. He tried to last longer, to give her time to come first but he simply couldn’t. She had punched all his buttons and then some.

He screamed her name as he came, his body trembling, pleasure coursing through him as his hot cum shot inside her. The sensation tipped her over the edge, her body shaking violently as her orgasm rippled through her. She clamped around him, milking him for every drop, drawing out his own climax. She made him come like no other ever had or could.

They pressed their foreheads together and laughed softly. They had made so much noise he was surprised a guard hadn’t come to see what was going on.

Once their breathing had returned to normal she stood, letting him slide out of her body. She collected some cum from where it was dripping from her body, licking her finger.

‘Hmm, delicious as always my love.’

He groaned. Gods if he didn’t feel ready for round two.

With a wave of her hand they were fully clothed again.

She gave him a megawatt Cheshire cat grin. ‘See you later, love.’

‘What! Where are you going? You can’t leave me like this!’

‘Can’t I? I am the Goddess of Mischief, husband. What do you expect?’ she said, echoing his earlier words.

His mouth dropped open. She winked at him cheekily and in a glimmer of gold was gone.

Damnit, he thought to himself. Now not only was he tied up and locked up; he was horny as hell with no chance of release. No matter. He would get his revenge.

A sly smirk grew on his lips. Oh, the things he was going to do to her.

[kybervisions]

i had a friend once... [loki]

 summary: loki finds out that his imaginary friend was very much real and pruned by the tva. their nexus event? falling in love with the god of mischief and the god falling for them. 

author’s note: yooo what if....loki had a friend??? ,, reader is gender neutral ,, 100th birthday is equivalent to 18th birthday earth-wise ,, this is short but kinda cute ,, feel free to send requests! 

While in Time Theater 5, footage of a younger Loki projects. He remembers that night. He wore tradition Asgardian attire, though green and tailored to fit his regal style. His 100th birthday — he remembers silently crying in his room after the dinner because of how horrible his father made him feel. He fell asleep crying. And now the video projects Loki walking into his bedroom in Asgard with tears running down his eyes. 

Loki can’t bear the scene, feeling both vulnerable and embarrassed with such an intimate moment being showcased. 

Then there was a knock at the door. 

He doesn’t remember that. 

“Loki?” A voice he can’t seem to recall is heard through the other side of his bedroom door. “Open the door, please,” His younger self reached for the door knob, opening the door to reveal someone Loki knows isn’t supposed to be real. “Oh, Loki,” You said upon seeing him crying. 

“You don’t have to comfort me, Y/N,” His younger self whispered. You cupped his face with your right hand and fixed his disheveled hair with your left. You touched him with such ease, and he did not look uncomfortable with your proximity to him. He looks relaxed and safe. 

“I am your best friend!” You smiled, using the sleeve of your tradition green Asgardian attire to wipe the tears from his face. “It is my purpose to comfort you,” You told him. “Especially when Odin is acting like a drunk fool,” 

“Thor wasn’t any better,” Younger Loki sniffled. He can’t remember exactly what his father and brother did to ruin his birthday, but —

“And he’ll get a proper smacking in the training yard tomorrow,” You promised him. “Don’t let them get to you,” You said sincerely. 

“I’ll never be good enough,” He whispered. “They’ll always look down on me...no matter what I do, I’ll never be good enough,” His voice broke, more tears falling from his eyes. Your empathetic eyes show that you felt his pain — that his pain broke your heart. 

“So don’t be,” You told him. “Be the mischievous, cunning trickster that I love,” 

“You love me?” His younger self questioned in a whisper. 

And then five TVA agents walk through a portal into Loki’s bedroom. “There is our variant,” A woman points at you. Confused and terrified would describe the look in your eyes. Three agents began walking toward the couple. 

“Who do you think you are?” Younger Loki asked. 

“On the authority the Timekeepers, I hereby arrest you for crimes against the Sacred Timeline,” The woman announces. 

 Younger Loki extended his arms out and had daggers materialize in his hands. You held out your left arm and a sword appeared in your hand. His younger self threw a dagger at one of their heads and began duplicating himself. 

As the copies of young Loki fill the bedroom and fight the TVA agents, preventing them from taking you away from him, you charged at the agents. The sword in your hand shine bright, and you cut through a man without effort. 

“Prune the variant!” The woman ordered. “Then reset everything,” The portal reopened, and the woman watched as the TVA agents focused their attention to you, their batons charged to eliminate you. 

“No!” His younger self cried out desperately, running toward you, shooting energy blasts frantically. He hopelessly tried to save you. 

But it wasn’t enough, because he isn’t enough. 

The video fades as you’re pruned, completely erased from the timeline when the TVA resets everything. 

“Y/N was real?” Loki asks, his head lowered, looking away from Mobius as tears threatened to spill from his eyes. For so long, you had been a figment of his imagination, a friend he conjured up because he was so alone. 

“They were,” Mobius nods. “But, don’t you see it? You weren’t born to be king, Loki. You weren’t born to have a great love story,” Someone had loved him. All those faded memories he had of you were real. “You were born to cause pain and suffering and death,” Mobius is so certain of Loki’s destiny. 

“That’s how it is, that’s how it was, that’s how it will be,” Loki shakes his head at Mobius’s words. 

[gdcee]

Old Friends

Summary: Loki doesn't meet his three counterparts in the TVA's garbage dump at the end of time but someone else entirely.

Warnings: Some sexual innuendo. Troubling possessive childhood behaviour. Mention of unwanted sexual advances (not perpetrated by either of the main characters in the fic).

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Loki considers the words neatly painted in bright red letters on the large signpost.

NO LOKIS (except for the kid and alligator they're cool)

He squints, wondering if his earlier rough landing has jumbled some connections in the language processing bits of his brain. He shakes his head and reads again.

Nope, he evidently did not misread the bit about the alligator.

"What in the name of Buri's wrinkly left-"

Before Loki can finish uttering the obscenity, an overwhelming aura of powerful magic smothers him. He barely has a chance to retaliate before he's swept away like a pebble in a fluvial flood.

He finds himself lying on the half-withered gray-green grass, staring incredulously at the softly glowing incorporeal fetters wrapped about his chest and ankles.

There's only one person he knows with this particular type of binding magic.

But no, no it couldn't be. It couldn't possibly be-

"You have a lot of nerve," her achingly familiar voice rings out in the desolate silence. Her equally familiar face comes into view as she leans over his prone form, "Coming here."

"Sigyn," he can only manage a hoarse whisper at first, but giddy elation soon overtakes shock, and his mouth widens in a cheeky grin, "Oh, I'm certainly not doing that at present but since you've already skipped past dinner to the bonda-"

Sigyn whacks him sharply on the head with her staff. Not hard enough to cause any pain, but hard enough to startle him into silence.

"Brazen," she sighs, sounding more exasperated than offended, "Every single one of you."

"I prefer cockyyy-" Loki trails off at the unamused glare she shoots him, "-shutting up now."

"Good choice."

Sigyn shakes her head and dispels the fetters that hold him. Though familiar, in truth, Loki hasn't felt her magic so close to him in centuries. Not since they were children and he was showing her how to conjure fireworks in her hands.

He wonders briefly if her hair still smells like apple blossoms.

"Come on," she reaches for his hand and pulls him to his feet without waiting for his assent, "Time to go. You know the rules."

"I don't actually," Loki tries not to look upset when she lets go of his hand (pathetic, Norns, he is pathetic), "I don't even know where...what this place is." He frowns, considering. "Probably not Hel since you're here."

Sigyn coughs a short, sharp bark of a laugh. There's no humour in it.

"This is Hel," she says, "In all but name."

"So...I'm dead?"

Sigyn sighs again, closes her eyes and blows at the loose strand of hair hanging in her face.

"Wonderful. You're a new one then. You remember being pruned, yes?"

"Yes. Not very pleasant."

"Quite. Well, this-" she moves one arm in a fluid, graceful arc, gesturing in grandiose fashion at the depressing panorama of refuse and ruined buildings littered about the grey landscape. "-is where the TVA sends their rubbish. Everyone they prune, any physical material from a reset timeline - it ends up here."

"Everything?" Loki quirks an eyebrow, "Seems a little empty of clutter if the refuse of millions of dead timelines is being dumped here."

"Ah. Yes, that would be the work of the giant purple cloud monster of eternal, ceaseless hunger that devours all within its path."

An ominous sounding growl underlaid with the rumble of thunder sounds faintly in the distance.

Loki looks towards the distant horizon and sees a large dark, purplish smear like a fresh bruise in the grey sunless sky. Light flares and something that vaguely resembles a galaxy-class battlecruiser falls from the heavens. Immediately, the great bruised mass is upon the hulking remains.

He is uncomfortably reminded of that ridiculous nightmare he used to have about being phagocytosed by a giant amoeba (he longs for such innocent days, when his bad dreams were the result of his overactive imagination processing tedious microbiology lessons and not recollections of the various horrors he has experienced).

"That would be Alioth. The giant purple cloud monster. Don't ask me who came up with that name. Now if you'll excuse me-" Sigyn turns briskly on her heel and heads off in the direction beyond the NO LOKIS sign.

"Wha- hold on! You're just going to leave?You're leaving me to that thing??"

"Oh please, you'll have plenty of time before it gets here. Besides," she mutters, "You're a Loki. There's a thousand of you in this Norns forsaken wasteland. Trust me, if there's one thing you all do very well, it's survive."

Her words hurt more than he wants to admit. That bad memory loop with Sif had been more painful for obvious reasons, but...he knew what Sif thought of him. Even back then, those words she'd thrown at him had not surprised him.

As a child, he'd always felt special to Sigyn. She'd wanted to be his friend, his own true friend and not just Thor's friend who didn't mind having Loki along for the ride. She'd liked the same things he did. She'd always laughed at his jokes and pranks.

He'd felt like he mattered to her.

Of course that had only made him abominably possessive. He just couldn't abide any other child having her attention. The fear of an insecure wretch - so terrified that if Sigyn looked away even for a moment, she would see something better, that she would find him wanting.

He shouldn't have been surprised when Sigyn did not protest at her father sending her to live with her late mother's relatives on Alfheim when her true powers manifested on the cusp of puberty.

He'd...he'd said such awful things to her before she'd gone. When two people have been friends for centuries, they know exactly what to say to make it hurt. Sigyn had given back as good as she got, but instead of petty childish insults, her accusations had rung with truth.

She'd known why no one wanted to be her friend, she'd known exactly what he'd been doing behind her back - all the tricks, all the schemes, everything he'd done to ensure that none would take his friend from him.

As a parting shot she'd declared that even though he'd been horrid, she had stayed his friend because she had cared about him. That he had been special to her and she hadn't wanted to lose him either.

It was one thing to lose his only friend besides his brother - it was another to know that all his fears had been naught but smoke and mirrors. That he had been awful, that he'd made Sigyn sad and disappointed for absolutely nothing.

She had returned to Asgard.

Eventually.

Týr could only use the excuse of his daughter's magical education for so long. Someone of her abilities was too important an asset for the Allfather to ignore.

In the end, they had come to a reconciliation (of sorts) because they were tired of avoiding each other.

Or perhaps, the more simple truth (that neither would have admitted to) was that they missed each other.

They were never again as close as they'd been as children, but they'd stayed friends (or friendly at least). On good enough terms that the Warriors Four had not sought her out to spin their tale of treachery and magical incursion (Sigyn certainly would have been the ideal person to subdue a treacherous, power-mad and magically gifted regent). But not on good enough terms that he would have approached her for help in his ill-conceived scheme to delay Thor's coronation (perhaps events would have played out more favourably if he'd had someone to bounce ideas off).

That had been his Sigyn anyway. The one who didn't even exist now. Reset into non-existence by the TVA along with everything else on the timeline he'd been taken from.

Did you mourn, he'd asked his brother.

We all did.

He wonders if the Sigyn he'd known had mourned him.

The Sigyn briskly walking away now seems ill-inclined to mourn any Loki. What had the Loki of her timeline done to make her want to have nothing to do with him? He isn't sure if he wants to know.

He is tired. So very, very tired. Tired of feeling responsible for things he has not done (yet? is it really destiny if your life is just a series of bullet points on a checklist created and enforced by a totalitarian bureaucratic organization built by person or persons unknown?). Tired of not being able to do anything to make amends for the things that he actually is responsible for.

Except...he can.

Sigyn isn't a memory construct, she is real, she is here.

It's just one thing, one little thing and it is paltry compared to the other ill-deeds he has committed (and the ones he is fated to commit)-

But it's something at least.

Loki catches up to her easily (being roughly a head taller has its advantages) and grabs the end of her staff.

"Sigyn-"

She fixes him with those sharp, dark eyes and he realises he doesn't know how he's supposed to start this. He swallows past the lump in his throat and says the first word that comes to mind.

"Please."

Her eyes soften just a little, but her mouth remains set in a firm, hard line, and she tries to tug the staff out of his grasp.

He doesn't let go.

"Stop trying to stall me."

"I'm not-" Loki bites back the instinctive protestation and soldiers on. "I need to tell you I'm sorry about what I said before Alfheim and for everything I did before that. I'm sorry that I was selfish, I'm sorry that I didn't trust you, I'm sorry I made you cry and...I'm sorry I wasn't a worthy friend to you."

"...Loki," her voice is soft, "That happened centuries ago. I'm not...I'm not even the Sigyn you need to apologize to."

"You're still Sigyn. You deserve one regardless."

Sigyn has that look on her face. That gentle, pensive consideration tinged with something soft and tender that he can't quite name. She used to look at him like that whenever he did something nice (whether unprompted or as an apology for something not so nice he'd done earlier).

Norns. This is getting awkward. Existential fear at the potential cessation of his existence and his childhood night terrors featuring improbably large unicellular organisms notwitstanding, Loki thinks he might not mind if that giant purple cloud trundled in right now and swallowed him up.

"Well, I'd best get on, hadn't I? Surviving and all that?" He coughs, "I...I'm...it was good to see you again. Thank you for not kneeing me in the crotch mid-apology. I appreciate it."

He turns to leave. He doesn't have a clue where to go, but the opposite direction from the purple cloud monster seems like a good start.

Maybe he'll survive long enough to come across Mobius. Half of him wants to find the man as soon as possible (perhaps also be complimented on his intelligence and the betterment of his moral condition). The other half hopes that he never sees him again (because brainwashed amnesiac variant or not, Mobius has subjected him to very unpleasant situations designed to psychologically shatter him. Loki is the last person in the universe who would hold someone entirely responsible for actions undertaken after their minds have been tampered with, but still. Just because he understands doesn't mean he can forget.)

As for Sylvie...Loki doesn't want to think about it, but if the TVA is smart, they wouldn't prune her. They wouldn't risk a repeat of whatever had happened on Lamentis-1, and since he is already here...

"Catch."

The improbable sound of Sigyn's voice startles him from his ruminations and without thinking his hand shoots up to intercept the small rectangular object wrapped in plastic and foil before it hits his face.

Loki stares at the granola bar (expiry date 12/12/2075) incredulously and then at Sigyn, walking briskly at his side and keeping pace with his long strides.

"I thought you-"

"You looked hungry."

"Sigyn, I believe this is what the Midgardians call 'giving mixed signals'."

"Look," she sighs, "I've been looking for...someone very dear to me for a very long time. I can't deny I feel some resentment for everyone I meet wearing his face. My baggage isn't an excuse for my rough treatment of you. It was unfair of me, and I apologise."

He blinks, not quite sure what to make of what she's telling him. Sigyn had never been one to mince words, she either said exactly what was on her mind or nothing at all.

That she is being deliberately vague and yet throwing up strong implications with her choice of words means that she does not want to lie but believes the truth is not something that he will be happy to hear.

Well, by now he's had a lot of experience dealing with unpleasant truths. Another one added to the pile is hardly going to hurt.

Sigyn has just started drinking from a battered metal canteen when he voices his suspicions.

"It's Theoric, isn't it?"

She chokes and spits out half of her drink.

"What?!" She wheezes, "What in Ymir's hoary arse gave you that idea?!"

"Didn't you fancy him back in-" Loki grimaces, snapping his fingers as he tries to pinpoint the date in question, "That year when burgundy was all the rage. Burgundy, scandalously low necklines and uncomfortably tight trousers."

"I went on a date with him because he was handsome, he was annoying me and I was young and stupid," she sneers, "He tried to put his hand up my skirts an hour into the picnic so trust me, after that I wanted nothing to do with the louse."

Something a little too much like that old familiar selfish anger bubbles up in his chest.

"He dared," he growls, "He dared to put his hands on you. He should have had his filthy paws struck off at the wrist for the insult to your dignity."

"Eat your granola, don't crush it," Sigyn says calmly, "In any case, I resolved the situation quite easily and without bloodshed."

"Shame," Loki mutters. He takes a bite of the now somewhat crumbly Midgardian snack and wrinkles his nose at the taste. "So how did you handle that son of a bitch?"

"I rendered him impotent for a year. I would have kept it permanent but he came crawling on his hands and knees begging for my forgiveness, swearing on the souls of his ancestors never to trouble me again, vowing to gift me his firstborn as my thrall etcetera etcetera..." she shrugs, "What can I say? I'm soft."

Loki doesn't remember the last time he's laughed this hard.

[anonymousweirdo]

My favourite Loki

“You know I’m not really his favourite.”

Loki’s brow furrowed temporarily at the unexpectedness of Sylvie’s sudden proclamation. “Okay.” He huffed.

“Wow you’re not even trying to hide your jealousy there I see.” Sylvie chastised smugly.

“I’m not jealous.” Loki stated seeing Sylvie raise an amused eyebrow he continued, “I can see that it would seem that I am because I said that rather quickly but believe me I am not in the slightest.”

“Oookay.” Sylvie replied rolling her eyes. “I mean he may have looked at me as he said it but he meant it about you.”

A few moments passed between the two as they continued on their way.

“Now really. Why should I care if Mobius likes you more than me?” Loki said carefully and deliberately making sure he had a perfect evenness to his tone.

“Oh I don’t know why but you do.” Replied Sylvie.

“I’m not even going to dignify you with a response.”

“Tell you what.” Remarked Sylvie. “I’ve never been one to turndown a wager and I’m sure you’re the same. I have an idea to propose about our little Mobius situation.”

She smiled at Loki who was waiting for her to continue. Realising she wouldn’t unless he further prompted her he reluctantly said. “Alright but the stakes better be high.”

Sylvie’s face instantly brightened with a deviant smile, “Oh believe me they are.”

Loki didn’t like the way she said this but really wanted to beat her at her own game so he said, “Well let’s have it.”

“Next time we meet Mobius we’ll figure out for certain which one of us he likes more. If it turns out you’re right and he likes me more I’ll teach you all I know about enchantment. However...” she smiled wickedly, “If it turns out I’m right, which I certainly am, and you’re his absolute favourite you have to kiss him.”

Loki felt his heart leap at this but ignored it and refused to show any sign of embarrassment or emotion whatsoever. He stretched out his hand to seal the deal and smiled smoothly. “You’re on.”

“Great!!” She enthusiastically shook his hand, “I hope you’re as smooth a kisser as you are a talker.” She teased.

“And I hope you won’t look too idiotic, which you will, when you become enchanted by the very person you taught enchantment to.” Loki smiled keenly.

***

Meanwhile Mobius had his fair share to deal with as taking down the TVA was no easy task. He had however found deep within himself courage and was heavily determined. Whether he admitted it or not Loki had really inspired him to think for himself and what he truly wanted in life. Not what certain higher beings dictated was ‘sacred’ or ‘supposed’ to happen.

Comforting Ravonna with all this proved to go as unfavourably as expected. She of course didn’t see it that way and was used to the idea of ‘timekeepers’ controlling the universe. Not to mention the last time they had met she ordered him to be pruned. He held nothing against her in fact he still respected her in a way. Perhaps that’s why instead of banishing her to somewhere awful or locking her away he sent her to where she was really from. Her life before she joined the TVA. She may have gone unwillingly but perhaps in the end her mind, or rather her heart, would change.

Regardless Mobius hoped for the best. He was startled by a TemPad portal opening which Loki and Sylvie stumbled clumsily out of. He couldn’t help but grin wildly at the sight of them, both relieved to know they were safe and heavily amused at the way they lay on the floor in tangled mess.

Loki quickly got up as though he hadn’t fallen in the first place and gave Mobius a quick half smile. “Well. You were right about one thing. We did manage to see each other again.”

“That we have.” Said an amused Mobius.

“If you two are through flirting I’d appreciate a hand.” Sylvie announced still positioned uncomfortably on the ground.

Mobius reached down and offered her a hand kindly helping her to her feet. “So,” he started, “How’d meeting the almighty timekeepers go?”

“Well it wa-“ Loki was cut off by Sylvie.

“It went well but we have more pressing matters now.”

Mobius raised an amused eyebrow “More important... huh.” He muttered.

“Which one of us do you like more?” She said bluntly.

Loki grimaced for but a moment then stated, “What Sylvie means is, we have a wager, that has very high stakes involved, which depends on your answer to this question. It’s not that it’s all terribly important... just another way to see which one of us is the superior Loki you see.”

Mobius surprised just stared at the both of them in wonder thoroughly entertained. “Well well well!”

“I already know your answer and it’s him.” Sylvie declared jabbing a finger in Loki’s general direction, ”So you needn’t draw it out.”

“Hey now, that’s rather presumptions besides being clearly inaccurate.” Loki remarked. Shifting his attention to Mobius he said matter of factly, “You said ‘you’re my favourite’ while looking at her. Besides she really is quite deviant and not fully unpleasant to look at.”

“Why thank you.” Said Sylvie who had never received such a wonderful backhanded compliment in all her life. “But...” she now looked at Mobius, “You realise he’s much more of a Loki than I am, if I can even be called a Loki. And it is Loki’s you’re fond of not to mention you’ve gotten to know one another so much more than you and I have.”

“But!” Interrupted Loki who was trying his absolute best to convince Mobius Sylvie was the more favourable of the two of them. “She has really amazing fighting skills and is quite crafty plus she knows enchantment. Also you’ve made it clear you consider her the ‘superior’ Loki.”

“Just because he recognises-“

She was cut short by Loki, “Considers.”

“Whatever,” she continued, “Me as the superior Loki doesn’t mean I’m his favourite.”

“Yes well-“

Loki was stopped by a soft chuckle emanating from Mobius.

“Wow... I don’t think I’ve ever been fought over this much in my life even my previous one. If I was I know I’d never forget it. Gotta say I’m flattered!” He raised both hands in a showy shrug.

“We’re not fighting over you we’re simply trying to get an answer out of you so I can prove to her that I’m clearly the superior Loki and claim my prize.” Loki professed.

“Oh really?” Said Mobius who could see right through Loki as he usually does, “Because it really sounds to me like you’re fighting over me.”

“We are absolutely n-“

“Ugh just answer the question already!” Moaned an exasperated Sylvie.

“Well...” Mobius hesitated immensely enjoying the whole situation. “Unlike the two of you I don’t lie so in all honesty....”

Loki could hardly take the build up. Feeling his heart grow faster with every millisecond that went by and absolutely hating it.

“You’re both my favourite.” Mobius simply said at last.

“Oh.” Loki and Sylvie uttered in unison

Loki turned to face Sylvie, “I guess we were both wrong.”

“Yeah... I guess we were both right too.”

“You know...” she continued a little smile growing across her face, “I’ll still teach you a little enchantment if you do you know what.”

“Absolutely not.”

“Your loss.” She shrugged, “Guess I’ll just always be the superior Loki.”

“Now that’s just cruel.”

Loki had a million thoughts cascading around in his head trying to ignore most of them he in the end couldn’t ignore his pride and with a reluctant sigh stepped towards Mobius.

“My friend,” He started. “Um well you see. We had this wager on who your favourite was obviously you know this but well.”

His confidence wavering he tried his best to explain the details without showing any sign of embarrassment or foolishness. He failed immensely.

“And it’s just that the stakes were I mean are quite high. She,” Loki glared in Sylvie’s direction who friendly waved at him, “Offered to teach me enchantment and still will if I hold up my end of the bargain.”

“So hold up your end of the bargain.” Said Mobius very amused at how flustered Loki was. How Loki was currently the complete opposite of how he always tried to make people perceive him. Instead of being confident and prideful Loki was uncertain and bashful which Mobius found rather endearing.

“Yes well.” Loki smiled painfully, “That’s the thing. I know I lie a lot but believe me. Believe me this was her idea.”

Mobius waited for him to continue pleased at the whole situation.

“Um.” Loki cleared his throat then let it all out abruptly, “If I kiss you then she’ll teach me enchantment.”

“Is that so?” Mobius said looking at Sylvie who was behind Loki.

She met his gaze and nodded enthusiastically.

W-o-w silently mouthed Mobius.

“Believe me if there was any another way I’d choose it instead but this is my only option.” Mumbled a throughly flushed Loki.

“Alright. Give it a go.” Said Mobius.

“Wait really?” Said a rather taken aback Loki.

Mobius chuckled, “Sure why not. You really can’t stand being second place can you?”

Loki uncomfortable and not knowing at this point how he even wanted to respond. Just lamely said “Okay well don’t blame me if she becomes your favourite after this.”

“Oh don’t worry I won’t.” Said Mobius looking as unbothered as Loki was uncomfortable.

Loki slowly inched forward towards Mobius and all those thoughts started to race through his head again much too quickly. All those feelings. All those things he doesn’t allow himself to process or even consider.

Seeing his friend step closer leaning into him only made it so much worse. His friend. Loki couldn’t recall if he could truly say that about anyone else. Other than Sylvie of course. Maybe that’s why this whole situation was driving him mad.

Just as their faces were mere inches apart Loki drew back forcefully. And exclaimed with a very offputing bitterness to his tone, “Actually there’s really no need for any of this I’m clearly the superior Loki. I don’t need to justify that to either of you.”

Mobius just stood there slightly stunned.

Sylvie just stood behind the both of them no longer smiling.

Loki continued to fill the suffocating silence that was quickly enveloping them. “Besides I can teach enchantment to myself it’s not like I need anyone for that.”

“Loki.” Mobius prompted gently.

“It’s not like I need anyone in general for that matter.” Loki declared refusing to acknowledge or except the tears that threatened to stream from his eyes. He turned away thinking of leaving. Of grabbing the TemPad and just going wherever it would take him. He closed his eyes and said scathingly “This was fun while it lasted but who are we kidding.”

“Stop it.” Said Sylvie who couldn’t bear it any longer. “Just please... stop lying.”

Loki completely lost in his own head and heart suddenly felt something warm wrap around him. He opened his eyes to see both Mobius and Sylvie who had caught him in a group hug.

“I used to think I didn’t need anyone either.” Muttered Sylvie who’s face was tightly pressed into his shoulder. “But no matter how many times I told myself that lie it didn’t make it true.”

Loki felt Mobius’ breath tickle his neck as he softly said, “Loki you may lie in order to not let anyone get close to you, know you, or love you, but that won’t stop us.”

And in an instant all the lies Loki told himself about how he felt about other people, how he felt about caring for others and being cared for, shattered with the simple realisation of a simple truth. He wasn’t wrong. He truly didn’t need anyone he just needed his friends.

Loki put his arms around the both of them finally letting go of his fear of being loved. Then hesitating for but a moment he tenderly placed a soft kiss on Mobius’ cheek first then on Sylvie’s.

They stayed like that for a while longer all embracing one another. Until Sylvie happily muttered, “Guess I have to teach you enchantment after all.”

Loki let forth an amused short snort of laughter. “Well I guess you do.”

“And you guys honestly thought I could choose between the two of you.” Mobius shook his head amused, “Look at you, you’re adorable!”

“We are aren’t we?” Said Sylvie owning it.

Loki just smiled genuinely. Happily. Warmly. Knowing without a doubt in his mind that he had found his favourite people of all time.

[thevibraniumveterans]

“Love is…” …new to Sylvie.

Here’s a bit of something from https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/sophia-di-martino-sylvie-loki where Sophia di Martino shares some insight into Sylvie and Loki’s blossoming romance.

Though Sylvie is a person who’s very sure of herself, “very confident”, as Mobius describes her, she’s “this wild cat who’s just on a survival mission”, says di Martino of Sylvie, who hasn’t had time to fall in love or even experience love of any sort, given how her life had gone before Loki had quite literally stumbled into hers.

Somehow, within 12 hours of “formally” meeting each other by way of a scuffle in front of the golden elevators that lead to the Time Keepers, she warms up to Loki. Something about him gives her pause, and she’s not so sure why, nor does she quite know how to respond to this new feeling she’s got.

Within mere minutes of a planet obliterating the moon that Loki and Sylvie find themselves on in Ep4, they both share a small but short-lived moment that was so powerful Mobius and Hunter B-15 stepped in to haul the wayward pair back to the TVA. 

No matter how Loki and Sylvie’s moment may be interpreted, two things were clear: 1) they both knew, in that moment, that there might’ve been something new between the two of them; and 2) whatever they did caused a massive and nearly vertical spike on the timeline that was impossible to ignore. Whether both were related, or that one was a causation, or that both were correlations of each other, it didn’t matter. What had happened, happened, and now, Loki and Sylvie are left to figure out their feelings for each other.

According to Sophia di Martino, Sylvie and Loki are like

“…two teenagers who have never had these feelings before.”

Di Martino adds,

“Obviously, Tom’s a super charming, very easy to fall-in-love-with guy. With Sylvie, I was really aware that she's never had feelings like this about anybody. This is a hugely vulnerable position for her to be in. I really wanted it to be not too easy for her to just sort of go there. It’s that moment where it's so awkward. They just don't know how to put it into words. They don't know how to behave around each other. It's all a bit too intense and a bit much.

Sylvie still feels extremely uncomfortable showing that vulnerability and admitting that she likes someone in that way, or that she has feelings for someone in that way. It's something that she's just never been able to do. Never have the opportunity, never met anyone that she's ever liked, let alone cared about. She's got a wall built up. She's not going to just let that down for anybody, and even if she wants to, it's difficult to get rid of.

You know those people that are really awkward at hugging? I imagine it's almost like that [for Loki and Sylvie]. [The kind of] people that need a hug the most but kind of just don't know how to do it. It's a little bit like that. I just want to hug both of them and say, ‘It's all right, guys. It's all right. Let's have a group hug.’”

-

That entire mini scene where Loki and Sylvie talk about their feelings by not talking about their feelings was one of my favorite in the episode. It’s also hilarious how when we first see them start talking, they’re not even touching each other, but somehow by the end of the conversation, they’re shoulder to shoulder somehow, without even moving or scooting closer.😂

Sylvie: “Mobius isn’t so bad.”

Loki: “Or so good.” (Sylvie glances at him.) “I think that’s why we get along.”

Sylvie: “He cares about you.”

(Loki considers this for a second, then looks up at Sylvie. She looks back at him and smiles. He looks away, and for a brief moment, away from all the chaos that has been happening so far, Loki realizes that the breeze that permeates the air around them is particularly chilly. He wraps his arms around himself.) 

Loki: “It’s cold.”

Sylvie: “Mm-hmm.”

(Loki looks off into the distance, before looking back at Sylvie. A thought comes to mind, and he conjures a blanket out of thin air, and has it wrap around his shoulders. He glances up at Sylvie again, and smiles.)

Loki: “I could conjure one for you if you like.”

(With a small grin, Sylvie scrunches her nose and tugs on her collar.)

Sylvie, jokingly: “Tell you what, you could conjure me a new outfit. You have no idea how uncomfortable something like this is.” (Loki casts his eyes down at the ground before him, shakes his head, and chuckles. Sylvie inhales awkwardly.) “So… Mobius and his, um, “theory”…”

Loki, just as awkwardly: “Oh right, right. About my nexus event.”

(Sylvie strikes down the possibility that whatever’s going on between them has got anything to do with the spike, and looks at Loki.)

Sylvie: “Total rubbish right?”

Loki, agreeing: “Absolutely, of course! I mean…”

(Sylvie, awkward as she is in this conversation, brushes a nonexistent strand of hair from her face, and looks at Loki.)

Sylvie: “I don’t mean it wasn’t, y’know, a nice moment.”

(Loki glances back up at Sylvie.)

Loki: “No, it was great. It was really nice. It was, it was great.”

Sylvie, in denial: “It sounds just like another TVA lie.”

Loki, also in denial: “A hundred percent. Totally. Yeah.”

(He shakes his head awkwardly and looks away, before glancing back at Sylvie. He nudges her arm. She’s nervously still. She glances at Loki and looks away just as quickly.)

Sylvie: “… I don’t know how to do this.”

Loki, quietly: “I don’t even know what we’re doing.”

(Sylvie glances at him and smiles ruefully. She admits her loneliness.)

Sylvie: “I don’t have friends. I don’t have… anyone.” (To be with, she means.)

Loki: “Well, you know, there’s more important things, right?”

Sylvie: (She looks at Loki, half incredulous.) “Right? Yeah. Like, like… bringing down the TVA.”

Loki: “Well, saving the universe, when you think about it.”

Sylvie, agreeing: “Well, no need to be dramatic, but yeah, kind of.”

(The breeze picks up a little, and a faint clap of thunder sounds off in the distance. Sylvie shrugs her shoulders once, not wanting to admit that she’s feeling chilly as well. Seeing this, Loki uses a little magic to drape part of his blanket over Sylvie’s shoulders. She glances at him and tugs it closer gratefully. New as this emotion feels to him, and as awkwardly romantic as it looks, Loki is unable to prevent an embarrassed smile from forming on his face.)

Sylvie: “…It’s not very snuggly.”

(Loki is amused by her odd comment.)

Loki, laughing: “…Okay?”

Sylvie: “Is it a tablecloth?”

Loki: “No, it’s a blanket.”

(Sylvie pauses for a second to gather her thoughts, then…)

Sylvie, softly: “Thank you.”

(Loki bows his head slightly in her direction and looks at her.)

Loki: “My pleasure.”

(He smiles, then, quiet. The comfortable silence the pair find themselves in lasts a few seconds before…)

Sylvie: “How do I know that in the final moments you won’t betray me?”

(Loki knows exactly why she’s asking him this question. She had asked him not too long ago, “What makes a Loki a Loki?”, and he had answered her with qualities he knows himself to have. But that was then, and this is now. Perhaps recalling the ruckus at the bunker earlier and knowing all too well what it is what a Loki would do, he latches on to the word “betrayal”. Perhaps also recalling how he had, when he was first arrested by the TVA, declared how he would not let other people decide how his story ends, he makes Sylvie a promise, reassuring her that though betrayal runs deep in every Loki that has ever existed, not to mention himself, he has made the conscious choice to not let that rule his life like it did before. He turns to face her.)

Loki: “Listen, Sylvie, I…” (He exhales once, acknowledging the weight of Sylvie’s question. His blue eyes, having nothing but true sincerity behind them for what is possibly the first time in a very long while, meet hers.) “I betrayed everyone who’d ever loved me. I betrayed my father, my brother… my home. I know what I did, and I know why I did it. And that’s not who I am anymore. Okay? I won’t let you down.” 

(Sylvie searches Loki’s eyes for answers.)

Sylvie: “You sure?” (He nods.) “Because if we make it, and the TVA is gone, there might be a timeline for you to rule.”

(Loki recognizes the inside joke for what it is, as he knows ruling is also something that any given Loki would want to do. But for him now, here, ruling anyone or anything is a thing of the past.)

Loki: “Ah. And then, I’d finally be happy.” (They smile at each other, recognizing the statement as a light-hearted jab.) “What about you? What will you do when this is all over?”

(Loki looks down at the ground before him before glancing up at her. Again, Sylvie brushes another nonexistent strand of hair from her face, but lifts her head, her eyes meeting his.)

Sylvie: “I don’t know.”

(Loki looks away, considering his answer.)

Loki: “I don’t know either.” (He takes a breath before meeting her eyes again.) “Maybe… maybe we could figure it out… together.”

(Sylvie, feeling that she might like that idea, thinks about it for a second before answering.)

Sylvie: “Maybe.” 

-

[warrioreowynofrohan]

Okay, I have thoughts about the new MCU Loki show, but especially about Mobius (perfect name for a guy whose job is protecting the timeline, by the way).

SPOILERS!

That was a master class in interrogation/deradicalization/recruitment. Possibly the best I’ve seen.

First off, there’s the usual TVA protocols - and I’m highly amused that an organization with extremely futuristic technology and an amazing-looking city deliberately designed their system on a 1980s-bureaucratic aesthetic, right down to the old-style animated video. It’s like they considered every single style from every single time people, country, and planet and decided that Earth-style-1980s-bureaucratic would be the most demoralizing.

Then Mobius comes in all friendly-like. And while that starting point is just standard good-cop-bad-cop, everything he does from then on is just outstanding. And we can reasonably assume that Mobius is coming in knowing everything about Loki, from his entire history and future to his psychological profile - after all, he’s been hunting other-Loki for a while now!

First off, Loki starts with threatening him, and Mobius is giving him absolutely nothing; just cheerful, casual agreement, ‘sure, why don’t you start with burning down my office,’ none of the fear or anger that threats are intended to provoke. At the same time, he takes Loki on a route that makes it unmistakeably clear just how impressive the TVA and their technology is; it’s on a level well beyond even Asgard, and it’s clear that Loki is picking up that the world is a good deal bigger than he’s accustomed to thinking about, and he’s a much smaller player in it than he believed. Mobius takes this moment of discomfiture as an opportunity to reassure Loki, present himself as a friend and build rapport; set up the feeling of ‘we’re on the same side here’. See, Mobius finds the bureaucratic system annoying too! And then, in the elevator, he mentions offhand that he just saved Loki’s life. He engages Loki in banter and wins a few exchanges.

In the cell, he starts off talking to Loki while facing away from him, and talks in an distracted tone. Rather than a standard interrogation setup with the interrogator trying to drag out information and the prisoner trying to stay silent, this creates a situation where Loki is trying to get his attention - as he just observed, Loki loves talking (and attention) - while also giving Loki an opening to attack, an attack that is immediately not only foiled but time-reversed, and which Moebius brushes off casually, thereby reinforcing that Loki is absolutely no threat.

To get Loki to start talking, he encourages Loki to try to manipulate him for future gain; after all, that’s Loki’s best available strategy under the circumstances, and not one he’s averse to (see: Grandmaster). He again emphasizes that Loki isn’t dangerous. He offers him unspecified benefits (he sounds like he is promising to let him go if he cooperates, but there is in fact no firm promise). And this gets Loki talking - especially since the questions are about himself, Loki’s favourite subject.

Now Mobius pulls out some truly incisive questions. (Note that this wouldn’t have worked without all the prior TVA stuff - it works because Loki is bewildered, wrongfooted, and placed in a situation where he’s got zero control. If you put Loki at the end of Avengers in a room and asked him those questions, he’d just laugh at you.) ‘What do you plan to do when you’re free?’ - which immediately reveals that Loki doesn’t want to do anything in particular with power; he diesn’t have any, like, policies; he wants power because it makes him feel powerful and successful. Then he butters him up with ‘I’m a fan; why limit yourself to just ruling?’

While the rest of the fandom is freaking out about Loki’s reaction to the MCU clips, the line that got me was his one about freedom: “For nearly everything living thing, choice breeds shame, and uncertainty, and regret. There’s a fork in every road, yet the wrong path - always taken.” Hello, projection! It’s a great window into Loki’s thinking in The Avengers (albeit a retconned one). “I’ve made terrible choices for myself that made me miserable, therefore I should make all the choices for everyone else” is of course a nonsensical idea, but Loki’s not operating on reason, just emotion.

The Mobius pulls out the video clips, first emphasizing Loki’s lack of success, and then pushing harder with “Do you enjoy hurting people?” Making him look at his actions from outside his own perspective. He keeps pushing, until Loki looks genuinely uncomfortable with his actions, and then, to counter the clips of him failing at conquest, invokes his title as ‘god of mischief’ and shows him succeeding at something genuinely mischievous. Be who are you really are. Be what you’re good at.

When Loki diverts from the topic at hand to rant about the TVA and his inevitable ascent to power, Mobius shows him the real outcome of his choices: imprisonment, and his mother’s death. Loki’s clearly emotionally affected, and Mobius presses his advantage; this is the first time in their entire interaction that he’s raised his voice. But Mobius then immediately returns to calm, and plays his masterstroke. Your predetermined role in the world is to cause pain and suffering. Is that what you want? It flips the narrative: suddenly, Loki returning to his quest for power and rule is compliance with the established order, and becoming a better person is defiance of it.

I don’t know if Loki’s escape is genuinely an error by the TVA, or if this is something orchestrated; the former is more probable, but the latter is a possibility - it’s seeing Infinity Stones thrown in a desk drawer like junk that takes Loki to the breaking point.

After the escape attempt, Mobius, in another great move, leaves Loki alone in the room rather than resuming the interrogation. It’s practically a guarantee that Loki will look at the rest of his future - there’s nothing else to do in the room, and it’s an irresistible opportunity - but at this point it’s more effective for him to feel that he’s acting freely that for Mobius to actively show it to him. And he’s also, obviously, more able to engage with his emotions when there’s no one else there (though the TVA is certainly observing him remotely, he’s not thinking about that).

And only then, when Loki’s coping with all those new realizations - both that his family loved him and that his life ended pointlessly - does Mobius come back. And then he at last gets genuine emotional vulnerability from Loki and, even more stunning, an admission of wrongdoing: that he’s been acting as a bully, harmimg others so he can feel strong. And it’s at that point, when Loki acknowledges himself a villain and is unhappy about it, that Mobius can make the offer of Loki helping on the case and have it feel like something he’s doing for Loki.

It’s the same deal it was at the beginning - help the TVA or die - but it feels very different to Loki. An opportunity rather than a threat. A choice he’s been given to do something different with his life.

And all this is nested within an episode that’s about the illusion of choice. Impressive.

Short version - I don’t see Mobius as Loki’s new best friend. I see him as a man who’s very, very good at his job. And I love competent characters.

I could be misreading it - I frequently read more into superhero movies and shows than is actually there - but that’s how it’s looking to me now.

[diamondcitydarlin]

I have a non romantic take on that scene in episode 4. The first time I saw it I remember that i didn't caught the jealousy vibes... I interpreted as Mobius being deeply hurt by Loki's betrayal, and that he was angry at himself because he didn't understand WHY he was feeling like that. He was blaming Loki for what he was going through, which was something strong, and deep. Until he realized that he was feeling like that because he fell head over heels for Loki.... wait. No. This scene is in fact romantic.

I was joking, there's no other way of interpreting that scene of it's not romantic. (and it's even worse when I remember that the lokius track is playing in the back).

YOU HAD ME IN THE FIRST HALF LOL - though, honestly I was curious to hear a contrary take on that moment because uh...it's just one of those that doesn't really fit in neatly with the hetero gaslighting that happens after these shows conclude (the whole, 'whaaat?? there was never anything GAY here okay that was NEVER the intention, I mean if you happened to make a lucrative fanbase off of their interactions that we can then exploit without actually writing representation THAT WAS JUST A FUN COINCIDENCE' yea ok sure jan)

So, yeah, I mean there -are- het explanations provided one is purposefully avoiding any deeper explorations into their dynamic and can just chalk Mobius' odd flavor of anger and hurt in this scene up as just two bros having a very not gay argument, but if you're actually studying and evaluating the depth of the scene and the possible motives behind everything they're saying/doing/reacting to...the interpretation that there isn't something a lot more vulnerable they're dancing around here doesn't really hold up anymore.

Because, again...Mobius doesn't even really linger that long on the fact that Loki told him he could trust him not to bail at the first opportunity and did. Mobius doesn't linger on the fact that he's taken a lot of risks to give Loki another option in their shared prison beyond just get reset/pruned and Loki has, at least from his perspective, abused that generosity. Those things get mentioned, of course, but the climax of their argument and clearly the heart of the issue is that Loki has fallen in love with someone else. After they've yelled at and lied to each other about everything else and everything is raw, Mobius is left with "No wonder you have no idea what caused the Nexus event on Lamentis, the both of you were just swooning over each other" "What an incredible, seismic narcissist" "Oh because I LIED about your girlfriend?" (interesting also that this last line is Loki accusing Mobius of lying to himself the most- about the truth of the TVA most obviously, but is that...the whole of it? Is that the only lie Mobius tells himself or does he tell himself OTHER lies having to do with your romantic entanglements, LOKI??)

And yea maybe Mobius is meant to be the voice of anyone watching the show that would find this pairing uncomfortable, just so they and him can be invalidated and proven wrong. It's definitely possible that was the entire motive in writing this moment at all the way it is, but you know what? The result comes off as a scene depicting a lovers' quarrel regardless, so congrats writers u played yourselves