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Tease Tidbit (birthday) Tuesday
Soooo I was tagged on TTT by my darling @bidisasterevankinard (thank you Diana love ♥) and I thought I'd take the chance to share the birthday present I wrote for @typicalopposite
Becca asked me to write a flashback of Tommy handling his pregnancy in Times Between Us for her birthday, and here it is! I hope you like it, my love, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY! ♥♥
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Tommy knows that Bobby wants a relationship with Mateo, and he knows it’d be important to his son to get to know his other dad. But it doesn’t make it any easier. Not when it’s been him and Mateo all his life. From the first moment he knew about him, it’s been just the two of them.
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Then
It’s been a long shift, and those have been particularly hard on Tommy lately. When he gets home, the first thing he does is put on some sweatpants (his jeans can barely close anymore) and stretch his legs on the couch, turning on the TV so the house won’t feel as silent. He’s nursing a bottle of root beer, which he’s allowed to have in moderate amounts, and thinking about what to do now that he’s starting to show.
So far, there are only two people in the world who know about Tommy’s pregnancy: his captain and Sal. Telling his captain was something he did as soon as he was transferred to the 217, and he begged her not to tell anyone; she had been ridiculously understanding, and thankfully discreet. Sal has been just as understanding, but not as discreet.
He’s been nagging Tommy to tell him who the other father is, but Tommy won’t. He has no doubt Sal would kick Bobby’s door and demand him to do right by Tommy, and he doesn’t want that. On the other hand, Sal’s been ridiculously helpful, but Tommy doesn't want to push it; he knows this is his own mess to take care of.
“Not that you’re a mess, sweetheart” He murmurs to his bump softly, irrationally afraid that his negative thoughts might be heard by his sixteen-week old baby.
He runs a hand on his bump, letting the thoughts of his little son relax his exhausted body. Tommy’s found out he’s a boy just a week ago, and his mind is still toying with a few names. It keeps coming back to Italian options to honor his mother’s family. Domenico, Lorenzo, Mateo, maybe Elio like his late grandfather. He’s been testing the names when he speaks to his bump, but still remains undecided. All he knows is the last name: just Kinard.
“It’s you and me against the world, huh, little Mateo?” Tommy coos; he’, and then the unthinkable happens: a small pressure against his stomach, stronger than the flutters he’s been feeling for a few weeks now.
It feels like something poking against him; like someone wants to make their presence known. Tommy sits up on the couch, his drink forgotten on the floor as he cradles his bump with both his hands, a small delighted smile coming to his face.
“Hey, baby”, he says softly, trying to keep his tears at bay. “Are you saying hello to your daddy, is that it? Telling daddy to shut up with his whining already?”
The small movement, more than anything, is making this feel real, and Tommy has all sorts of mixed feelings. His surprise little one is already the joy of his life, and Tommy is eager to meet him, to have his son in his arms, to be a dad and be good at it (it’s not a matter of if; he already promised himself he’ll be the good father he’s never had to his baby), but. He’s not thrilled to be doing it alone. He could call Sal and tell him about the kicking, he knows his friend would make a big deal out of it, but it’s not the same. Sal has his own life to live; his and Gina’s youngest daughter is barely one year old, they’re thinking of moving out of LA. Tommy can’t be bothering him too much.
And besides, if Tommy’s honest with himself, Sal is not the one he wants to call. Today, more than ever, now that he’s felt his little one kick, he wants to call Bobby. He wants to call Bobby and spill it all out, tell him about the baby they’re having together, let Bobby know he’ll be a dad.
He doesn’t.
He doesn’t, because Bobby didn’t want to commit. He doesn’t, because Bobby hasn’t bothered to look him up after he left the 118; Tommy reasons that if he wanted to know how Tommy was doing, he could, and it wouldn’t be hard for him to put two and two together.
But Bobby doesn’t want him, and he doesn’t want their baby. And Tommy has to be fine with it.
The tears are running down Tommy’s face now, and he’s not able to stop them. He feels absurdly lonely, and the only thing keeping him from despair, tethering him to some semblance of hope, is the little being who’s still fluttering inside his womb.
“I know, Mateo”, Tommy says, using the name more firmly this time; if his son kicked for the first time when Tommy used it, maybe that’s the name he’s meant to have. “I know you’re here for Daddy, and I’m here for you, baby. I want you so much, my little tesoro, you are so loved.”
No matter what, Tommy will always reassure his baby that he’s loved. As for himself?
Well, he’s used to the feeling of being unloved by now. He doesn’t really expect things to change.
No tags today since it's a birthday fic, but if you want to do TTT, consider yourself tagged! ♥
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life of regret
#fiddleford mcgucket#fiddleford#gravity falls#my art#no way . i had all of these tags written out on mobile ab stanford and fiddleford post fallout and it CRASHEDDDD#THEYRE GONEEEWW (slipping thru my fingers like sand)#whag freaking ever . i was just talking about how i always forget theres a pocket of time between their split and fords disappearance#and how crazy it is that i had no idea fidds used the gun on ford until last month#it just unlocked smt in my brain thats all.👐 and then i said i was smashing my head w a rock. maybe even 20❤️#tbh i was neutral on fidds back then but i rly rly like him now T_T .. power of other fidd enjoyers lifting me up#i had a lot of fun coloring this one but i didnt know what exactly i wanted to do w it . i had fidds and the gun all finished#but i was like uhhh.. >added the wrapped light#and then i added a whole bunch of scribbled soc of the blind eye symbols but it was waay too crowded/busy#i wish i couldve found a way to keep them😧 u know when HAHAHAHAH u know those ugly like#math prints of just random equations . thats what it started looking like n i had 2 tap out#editing 2 say i posted this and i had that panic NOOO WAIT ITS JOT FINISHED but I Will be Okay.<say it w me#if i spend too much time on it ill just overwork it and then never share so -__-
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subject, specimen, spectacle;
should i say that you're dead?
#my art#jujutsu kaisen#jjk#jjk fanart#jujutsu kaisen fanart#gojo satoru#jjk gojo#jjk satoru#satoru gojo#gojo#bugs/#insects/#eye horror/#every time i post gojo art i feel scummy using like . the slew of tags this mf has#im like wow u look desperate gdfjkdjkg#listen ok im not a gojomain idk where people look fr content#anyway for not a gojomain i sure do have a lot of artistic breakthroughs whenever i draw him#first th eyedoves then lmhs gojo then gojo in the (club) bathroom by himself now this#loathe as i am to admit it i Love how much there is to pick apart of him in art theres so much theres so many angles u cld take#personally my favourite gojo angle in art (tm) is the Cryptically Unsettling Not Sane Not Human what can i say#keep ur thirst trap gojoart i like this guy unblinking and twitchy#on that note here he is pinned down as god intended#i ATE w this concept i fear fgfgsd i wanted a like. pallid formaldehyde dissection table under examination motif#and i was torn between using snakes or bugs to convey it and im SO SOOSOSOO happy i picked the bugs#ive used butterflies a lot they arent anything unfamiliar but truly i felt a chakra unlock when i thought of gojo+butterfly pinning#the burning light the eye the composition i rly think this is some of my best work#also also th poem was smth i came across when i was brainstorming captions and i ws like. gagged @ how well it fit gojo i had to include it#im not a poetry buff so my opinion is very uneducated but i think it was rly haunting and sad and beautiful#fit my target vibe so i took it slapped it on gojo w bugs said thank you verymuch smile :)
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since Eng is getting 7.5 soon(?), I felt motivated to go back to my Meleanor rig and make her a couple of lesson animations! ...except for alchemy, because the cauldron bubbles proved too hard to photoshop around, whoops.
maybe she just got lost on her way to the classroom...?
(credit: backgrounds are from the game, I just put her on top of 'em)
(aside from the backgrounds, this is not an edit, I drew her from scratch! please do not tag or treat as an edit!)
#art#twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland spoilers#twisted wonderland episode 7 spoilers#twisted wonderland book 7 spoilers#twisted wonderland episode 7 part 5 spoilers#twisted wonderland book 7 part 5 spoilers#gif warning#gifs that will inexplicably never get a perfect no matter how many cupcakes you use warning#let's just say she hasn't been added to the alchemy schedule yet#AS PER USUAL#(sam sneaks in at night and messes with the schedule so we have to buy candy from him instead)#(i promise i will stop spamposting eventually) (they gotta stop giving me characters to obsess over first)#anyway in my continuing efforts to manifest a meleanor card into existence#it's time to remember i made this a million years ago#just blow off some of the dust and cobwebs that have accumulated here...#'i'm only gonna add a couple of things i won't do too much'#(spends ten minutes trying to decide what color goggles she should have)#(flipping back and forth between green and purple) it's no use she looks good in everything#spineposting#(not me stealth editing because i didn't realize the wrong arm attachment had somehow popped in whoops)
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who is your favorite AA character? 👁️👁️
ziska… I hope capcom brings her back someday
#shes cool as fuck to me bc when I first played jfa I found her really frustrating to deal with#not just as Phoenix but I mean like on a personal level she is challenging because she’s so thorough#and yet I also find it fascinating that she breaks the character she’s built for herself once in a while#i 100% believe that I don’t think she would have caught on to what Phoenix was trying to do while stalling for time with engardes trial#so it’s probably a good thing edgeworth subbed in but she literally busts her ass to bring evidence to court#almost right after having a bullet extracted from her WHICH SHE ALSO PRESENTS AS EVIDENCE. thats metal as fuck ok#especially since she would technically have nothing to do with the case after edgeworth fills in and she still decided to do that anyway#maybe it was blind faith to use that evidence to win since she wasn’t there for most of the trial but still#and even if canon doesn’t give it to me I still firmly believe there’s be at least some chemistry between her and Maya#like especially if you hold it next to wrightworth that works bc there’s already a history there and majority of Phoenix and miles trying#to relearn their relationship is Phoenix coaxing out that side of Miles that he remembers from fourth grade#but with Franmaya it’s something new and they’re basically strangers to each other and one of them almost got the other convicted#and I still think that’s fascinating and it’s a damn shame thay half of the fics I find for them on ao3 is background in wrightworth fic#i did find a good one that touched on Franziska trying to win pearls approval because Pearl does hold a grudge against her#and seeing that trying to live up to perfecting even her personal relationships without getting to know Pearl to even know#why it wasn’t working feels believable when I think abt her as a character yk#myart#my art#doodles#aa#ace attorney#franziska von karma
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News spreads fast.
[First] Prev <–-> Next
#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#jin guangyao#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#I absolutely love the contrast between JGY and JGS in this scene.#While JGS is acting as an instagator and trying to fan the flames of discontent (pulling his devious (g) strings)#JGY tries to keep a fairly neutral stance. If anything he reads like someone who's attempting to chair an unruly group project.#Honestly I think this scene does so much to show us why JGY manages to become the respectable leader he does in the future.#He's actully good at leading discussions and doesn't rise to bait. He's trying to start a productive discussion with *real facts*.#There is genuine honour in his approach and he never jumps into the emotional bandwagon.#The issue at the moment is that he doesn't have same level of authority as the contrastively *worst* sect leader does.#Jin Guangshan has a very specific agenda - to gain power by throwing anyone he deems expendable into the gutter.#The story even explicitly calls him out on not being so different from Wen Rohan multiple times.#The insidious part is that he's surrounded by people who think this is all justified.#It's all about using the 'victim' narrative to leverage justification. Which I'll get into more in upcoming comics.#(cut off text in panel one is supposed to be 'dead girls walking' but I ran out of room to make that clear. whoops!)
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The first time, Tim notices someone observing them from afar, it is when they are all settled for a brief dinner together. It is the middle of the week, and Bruce gathered all of them together to... relax. Which is strange but not unwelcome. Everyone is so involved in chattering and bantering that they don't notice a lingering gaze through the window; they don't, but Tim does.
It takes him a few seconds to figure out that it is Jason.
He is not sure if Bruce reached for him to invite, and Jason just declined, or there was no offer to begin with, but Tim knows for sure Jason lurkes behind windows for a few minutes before disappearing in the night.
And the funniest thing? Tim understands him.
He thinks he is not Jason's replacement — never truly was, despite what the other thought — but in a way, they did swap their places. Because in the past, it was Tim, who hid on the rooftops, staring at Bruce and his family, listening to the snippets of their conversations. And now it is Jason.
It is still different, of course. Tim had a choice, and it was his... enthusiastic project, if anything — Jason doesn't really. But if anyone understands the feeling of standing far away from everyone, it is still Tim.
That's why the next time in happens, Tim reaches out.
It is after the particularly easy mission, when Tim spots the red motion on the rooftop. He slips away from Nightwing and Robin, who debate about something with Batman through the comms, and finds himself standing behind Red Hood.
The way Red Hood taps his fingertips on the balustrade makes Tim remember that he is not included in their comms anymore. He wonders how lonely it is, to hear the voices of his brothers, but never being able to grasp the whole conversation they have.
'Hood,' he calls for him.
To Jason's credit, he doesn't scramble in panic, even if it seems that he is surprised by his appearance.
'Red,' he mutters back, instantly defensive. 'What, came to mock me?'
Tim rolls his eyes; he wishes things would be easier with Jason, but they are not, and he can't really blame him for that.
'Had I ever mocked you?' He copies his stance, arms folding in the chest. When Jason tilts his head, almost asking, "Really now?" Tim rolls his eyes again. 'Okay, I did a few times. But it mostly were jokes about your death.'
Jason chuckles.
'Good one, punk. It changes everything.'
'You like jokes about your death,' Tim protests. 'And I know you allow Arsenal to joke about it, so it is not entirely closed topic.'
'I don't remember allowing you to joke about it, though.'
...
This conversation is so fucking stupid. Tim didn't even came here for this, but-
But fine. He still can win.
'So, you only allow it to your friends. Fine. Let's be friends,' Jason chokes on his own exhausted sigh. 'Do you need some friendship questionnaires to fill to be my friend? I can arrange that.'
Jason kindly flips him off under his breath before disappearing in the night, leaving him alone with whining Nightwing and irritated Bruce in his ear.
The next time he stalks down Jason, who in turn is stalking Damian and Bruce, he shoves in his hand twenty three papers filled with bunch of friendship questions — half stripped from internet, half made by Tim that involve the specifics of their jobs.
He doesn't expect anything to come after it, but in two weeks after Jason returns to the city after his mission with Outlaws, Tim finds these papers filled with surprisingly neat, calligraphic answers.
And he gets the printed copy of the same questions, with one page of an additional one, written in the same handwriting, and with a little sticky note atop of it.
Your turn, Timbo.
Tim smirks.
Oh, he will so drag Jason back in the family, somehow.
#jason's answers stuck somewhere between being some batshit lore drops and the sweetest shit ever#like yeah when he was six he witnessed a man in the neighbourhood killing his daughter... and the next answer is like OH I LOVE DOGS :(#tim gets concerned after reading bunch of his lore like poor boy yeah#BUT JASON GETS CONCERNED AFTER TIM'S ANSWERS BECAUSE WTF IS GOING ON IN HIS BRAINS?#tim also encourages jason's pettiness so now they have comm only between each other that they demonstratively use all the time#dick is restless wdym he is not included??? he is their favorite#jason messages him that tim is his favorite now#the chaos ensues#jason todd#red hood#dcu comics#dc universe#dcu#batfamily#bruce wayne#batman#batfam#dick grayson#tim drake#red robin
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The self-awareness on this guy 😞 someone pls send him an "are you bi?" quiz STAT
#dead plate#rody lamoree#rody x vincent#vincent charbonneau#rodince#rodincent#my art#i saw someone tag one of my drawings with a version of their ship name using their last names and it was nice but i forgot what it was#aksjdhf#also NOO i forgot Rody's lil moles 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭#thankfully at least tumblr allows edits#anyways#rody looks so wonky to me but I just wanted to stop fidgeting with it and post it since i wasnt getting anywhere anyways aksjdfh#also little story time lol#when i was in 10th grade there was this girl in my chemisty class that i was kinda frienemies with#we just always got into arguments with each other but the vibe ultimately stayed light and friendly between us#kinda like a <<fuck you but anyways what did you get for no. 5>> kind of situation#one day she slammed one of her hands against the door right next to my head 😳😳#i think she was trying to intimidate me but instead it just gave me a core memory LMAOOO#thankfully by then i already knew i wasnt straight lol but it definitely unlocked something in me hahahah
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Because you're what's left, I suppose.
#isat#in stars and time#isat siffrin#in stars and time siffrin#siffrin isat#hey guys check out my latest obsession#I actually played it late November/early December to keep me sane (ironically) during the holidays#this piece was really fun! got to use my microns and gelly rolls for this one#thinking of making more but I'll probably switch between digital and traditional for variety :)
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Hi Via my love! Ofc ♥ Let's start with some priest Tommy sentences for you! - 🕯️(cont. from here)
“Wow” The woman who Tommy is almost sure is named Wilson quips, and he’s suddenly reminded there are more people around. His cheeks blush, and Tommy’s not sure he wants to figure out why. “I know you’re a health food freak, but didn’t think a few zucchinis would get you this starry-eyed, Buck”
Evan’s eyes widen, and he looks at her with a blush on his cheeks. He chuckles awkwardly, rubbing his neck and looking down.
“Starry-eyed?! I’m not… I just think…” He stammers, and trails off. “It’s neat, that’s all, that they’re planting and helping kids and all that. I thought church was just going to Mass on Sunday and call it a day”
Both the captain and the firefighter that Tommy thinks is named Diaz give him an unimpressed look, and Nash very pointedly looks from him to Tommy. That causes Evan to blush even more deeply, and he quickly raises his hands.
“N-not that there’s anything wrong with Mass! I-I mean…” It’s clear he has no idea how to finish the sentence, and Tommy takes pity on him.
--- (BobbyTommy under the cut!)
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“So, do… do you think he liked me?” Evan asks nervously, and Tommy kinda wants to kiss him from how adorable he looks. With a pleasant jolt, he remembers he's allowed to, and he does exactly that.
“He definitely did. He went to sleep asking me when Mr. Evan can come to dinner so you can race him again” Tommy says, smiling as he remembers his son's enthusiasm.
“Well, that'd be up to his Dad, I think” Evan says, and he turns pleading blue eyes to Tommy.
Tommy is two seconds from offering him the world when the doorbell rings. He frowns; apart from Evan, he wasn't expecting company tonight.
“Excuse me a second” He says, giving Evan a quick peck to his lips and walking towards the door.
He opens it to find Bobby Nash at the other side, looking slightly out of breath, staring at Tommy as if he's never seen him before, and Tommy feels a cold sensation take over his chest.
Bobby knows. He's completely sure. He doesn't know how, but he knows.
“Bobby…” He starts, not even sure what he planned to say, but Bobby doesn't give him the chance to continue.
“Is he mine?!” He asks, his voice trembling with emotion, and Tommy's heart feels like it's going to burst out of his chest. --- There you go my darling, I hope you enjoy it! Love you ♥
[make me write]
#bucktommy#tommy kinard#evan buckley#scusa se ti amo#times between us#gabby writes#tag game#make me write
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HEY CONGRATS??? ON BEATING ONE-TIME-I-DREAMT??? YOU DID IT???
i was asleep when this went down so you cannot imagine my surprise when i looked and found that we won by a margin of less than 1%
#asks#strixcattus#gimmick blog bracket#gimmick blogs#hellsitegenetics#one-time-i-dreamt#thank you again to everyone who voted and campaigned#it was genuinely so intense watching the poll swing back and forth over the whole week it was up#31k votes..... insane#making-you-in-spore !!! i look forward to seeing who wins between us!!!
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thinking about Nico adjusting to letting himself miss and long for the people he loves. based on these bits from the sun and the star:
" As Nico and Will followed the trogs, he thought about how much he missed Hazel. He was learning to make peace with that feeling. It was okay for him to miss people because that meant he wanted them around in his life. That idea was *very* new for him- he was used to either pushing people away or watching them recoil from his presence." *
" That was the most surreal thing of all... Was he happy? Nico wasn't very familiar with the sensation, but he couldn't deny that he felt wonderful in Will's presence. He even longed for the son of Apollo when they were apart. A funny thing had happened as the two grew closer: Nico suddenly understood all those cheesy, sappy love songs he'd always hated."
#its just. i like that they included that in the book yk. the fact that he prepared a certain distance between everyone#and thus isnt used to missing anyone#so its strange for him#this is probably set somewhere pre tsats just because i like to think it was one of the times he found himself missing and longing.#but it was one of the first times he actually allowed himself to feel that way.#took the feeling and held it instead of banishing it away#also yes letting himself unmask a bit#i like to think he just gets wayyy more expressive with his hands the more he heals#that and he unmasks more!!! more openly stimming!! more special interest rambles!!#just oughh.#anyways this was a huge comic to colour#big fuck you to tumblr who made posting soooo much harder#fuck u and ur updates tumblr#solangelo#pjo#percy jackson and the olympians#percy jackon and the olympians#nico di angelo#will solace#the sun and the star#trials of apollo#they borrow clothes from eachother its real in my head okay#nico canonally bought will a stupid shirt as a joke tho and i love that for them
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The Mansons have Infinite Money
#danny phantom#college au#house design#set design#this started as me wanting to draw a scene and figuring it’d be easier to just Know what the house looks like#the Manson parents just flat out bought the house#and Sam worked on it during the summer between hs and college#it’s super bougie of them#and adds to their mistique lmao#Danny and Tucker don’t have to pay rent but they do need jobs for extra cash#Sam has shitloads of extracurriculars#Tucker spends the most time home#Danny has only used the front door like ten total times#and only bc he was with ppl
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updated post! western north carolina is very much still recovering from the effects of hurricane helene, we’re almost five months past when the hurricane hit at this point and there’s still roads in my area that only reopened for the first time last week, there’s still roads with mud caked along the sides that somehow still hasn’t washed away yet, there’s still debris stuck in the trees and along the riverbanks, still abandoned cars trapped in mud. and while a lot of areas that weren’t hit quite as hard have been able to mostly return to “normal” the landscape is forever changed, and so many people lost their homes and jobs and livelihoods. we’ve come a long way these past few months, but there’s still a long way to go.
so here are some mutual aid collectives to check out if you want to continue to help aid in our recovery!
•Pansy Collective
•Asheville Survival Program
•Rural Organizing and Resilience (also known as ROAR WNC)
•Holler Harm Reduction
•BeLoved Asheville
and if you want to stay up to date on recovery efforts, government assistance, etc, check out Blue Ridge Public Radio! they have given continued detailed reports on the hurricane and all the effects since then and continue to do so now, and they can offer a much more comprehensive view of the situation than i can
#it’s been an interesting and eventful four and a half months to say the least#you get used to seeing the destruction to a degree#but every day i notice new things#sometimes it’s ‘they finally repaired that fence’#or ‘they finally moved that pile of debris by the road’#or ‘they tore down that condemned building’#other times it’s ‘i never noticed all the sticks still wedged in this railing’#or just simply being shocked and grieving at the destruction in an area#even when i’ve driven through it plenty of times between now and then#it’s just still so surreal how some areas in the place i’ve lived my whole life in are now unrecognizable#anyways#mutual aid#hurricane helene#western north carolina#bee posts
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was this anyone else's first thought, or
#art#twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland spoilers#anglerfish#YES hiking jade let's GO#send him up the mountain to look at some funky mushrooms#love how delicately he's holding his lantern with his little pinky out#ooh la la monsieur mastermind#now what are the odds we're getting gargoyle-club malleus next#probably not good but LOOK let me DREAM#i also very much want the equestrian club. GIVE ME HORSE BOYS#actually just give me everyone i want to see everyone#man though the june schedule looking pretty light over here in jp#which always makes me think something big is coming up...#whenever they pull a training camp on us it instantly sends my brain into overthinking mode#chances are good it's more main story though!#we've been averaging every-other-month story updates for a while now and the consistency is nice#i'm still not over the eight months between the end of episode 5 and the start of episode 6...#(IT'S FINE i want them to take all the time they need! i am just impatient)#(i will happily wait but i will be rolling around on the ground the entire time)
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I only just now realized what a shame it is we never got to see Al and Greedling really interacting
#nocturnal hangout buddies#so much to talk about like 'why did you kidnap me if you're already immortal you dumb asshole'#and games like 'try to guess the stupid song ling is hollering in the mindspace for the 10 millionth time'#it woulda been good#fma#fmab#fullmetal alchemist#fullmetal alchemist brotherhood#greed#greedling#alphonse elric#comic#my art#doodles#always so fun to come back to this style and remember it's far and away the painting style i'm best at#in terms of efficiency and final look#and yet i basically never use it at all lma o#anyways hope you enjoy this comic that doesn't really have a punchline a;lsdkfj#those are few and far between for me so gotta enjoy em when they pop up!
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