#time for orm aquaman new 52 posting

[ormymarius]

Arthur meets with Orm

in Aquaman #14 (2011)

[pluckyredhead]

Is Geoff Johns’ Aquaman the best run on the character, in your opinion?

Lol no.

I will say this for Johns's Aquaman: he did a very good job synthesizing all of the contradictory backstories and canon that had come before and refining the best elements into something that made sense and created lots of story potential. Like:

Pre-Crisis, Arthur's father was human and his mother was a random Atlantean woman, and he was king because he was elected to the position. Post-Crisis, his mother was the queen consort of Atlantis and his father was an ancient Atlantean sorcerer. Johns married the two, literally, by having Arthur's father still be human, but his mother the queen (not the queen consort) of Atlantis. This allowed Arthur to be a child of two worlds, and have all the pressures and conflicts of the crown, both of which are really strong elements of the character.

Pre-Crisis, Orm was Arthur's half-brother on his father's side, so he was fully human and became a supervillain because he couldn't breathe water like Arthur and he was big mad about it. This is nonsense. Post-Crisis, he was still Arthur's half-brother on his father's side, but that father was the aforementioned ancient Atlantean sorcerer and neither Arthur nor Orm had any real relationship with him to speak of, so their dynamic isn't interesting and Orm himself is criminally boring. In the New 52, Orm is Arthur's half-brother on his mother's side, meaning that for the first time, he is also a potential heir to the throne of Atlantis, and the conflict between him and Arthur stems not from random hatred but from a genuine disagreement about what's best for their people. That's SO MUCH BETTER.

Pre-Flashpoint, Mera was the queen of an underwater realm from some random other dimension we don't care about. In the New 52, she's the princess of a rival undersea kingdom to Atlantis, which is way more interesting.

Pre-Flashpoint, Tula was from some random "royal family," which isn't explained and doesn't make sense. In the New 52, she's Orm's half-sister on his father's side, meaning she and Arthur aren't actually related but they have the same brother. Also interesting!

There are so many good ideas in Johns's Aquaman, and honestly I think this book does a better job than literally every other New 52 book I've read (and I've sadly read a lot of them) at presenting a cleverly streamlined, accessible new narrative for its characters based on what already existed, rather than just changing things at random just to be different.

The problem is the execution. Johns's Aquaman is utterly joyless, which was true of basically every single New 52 book, but this one feels particularly weighed down by it. It's also deeply, deeply embarrassed by its subject matter. He spends all his time trying to convince you that Arthur is a TOTAL BADASS who is VERY SERIOUS and DOESN'T TALK TO FISH, OKAY???

And like...he's Aquaman. The whole concept is goofy. Superheroes are goofy. If you can't hang with that, maybe superhero comics aren't the place for you?

The book just radiates un-fun. No one in the book was having fun, no one making the book was having fun, and I didn't have any fun reading it.

As for what the actual best Aquaman runs are...I would say probably the Silver Age, the Sub Diego arc in the 2003 run, and there was some really fun stuff in Rebirth. And the Peter David run isn't actually good but it's really, really entertaining.

[dc-earth53]

#0006 - Aquaman (Arthur Curry/Orin)

Age: 43

Occupation: King of Atlantis

Marital status: Married

Known relatives: Atlanna (mother), Tom Curry (stepfather), Atlan (father), Orm Marius (half-brother), Mera (wife), Arthur Curry Jr. (son, deceased), Koryak (son, deceased), Mareena Curry (daughter).

Group affiliation: Atlantis, formerly Justice League of America, Others

Base of operations: Poseidonis, Atlantis

Height: 6’1”

Weight: 325 lbs.

History:

43 years ago: Orin is born to Atlanna, queen of Atlantis. An ancient Atlantean superstition stated that children born with blond hair are cursed, and Atlanna and baby Orin are cast out from the kingdom. Atlanna travels to Amnesty Bay, Maine, where she meets lighthouse keeper Tom Curry. The two fall in love, and together they raise the child, newly rechristened Arthur.

33 years ago: Atlanna dies of pneumonia, due to a weakened immune system not accustomed to surface illnesses. On her deathbed, she tells Arthur of his true nature.

27 years ago: Tom Curry dies of a heart attack. After his funeral, Arthur leaves home to seek out his heritage.

26 years ago: Arthur briefly spends time in Alaska, falling in love with an Inuit woman named Kako and, unbeknownst to him, getting her pregnant. He’s driven away by the demonic god Nuliajuk before he can learn of the pregnancy.

24 years ago: Arthur is led to Atlantis by a pod of dolphins, and there he meets royal advisor Vulko and claims his birthright, learning of his heritage and usurping the crown from the corrupt king Orvax.

22 years ago: Orin first comes into conflict with Orm Marius, his half-brother, the Ocean Master, who tries to usurp the throne of Atlantis for himself.

20 years ago: Orin teams up with Barry Allen to fight the Trickster, and Barry dubs him “Aquaman.”

19 years ago: 

Aquaman becomes a charter member of the Justice League after helping Earth’s heroes repel an alien invasion.

Orin meets Mera, queen of the exiled Atlantean city of Xebel, and the two marry soon thereafter.

Orin first encounters the undersea terrorist Black Manta.

18 years ago: Orin takes the young Atlantean mage Garth on as a protege.

17 years ago: Orin and Mera have their first child, Arthur Jr.

15 years ago: Arthur Jr. is murdered by the Black Manta as part of an elaborate scheme to take revenge on Aquaman and Atlantis for past defeats.

12 years ago: In the wake of the Justice League’s disbanding, Orin joins the Martian Manhunter’s new League, headquartered out of the Secret Sanctuary in Happy Harbor. Mera leaves him soon thereafter, wrecked with concerns over his commitment to her.

11 years ago: Aquaman is one of the many heroes involved in the fight against the Anti-Monitor.

10 years ago: 

Aquaman again fights Ocean Master when the latter attacks Amnesty Bay.

Orin returns to Atlantis to find it conquered by a race of giant jellyfish. He succeeds in driving them out, and reclaims his throne.

9 years ago: Atlantis becomes embroiled in civil war, as Poseidonis is besieged and overrun by forces from Tritonis, allied with Black Manta

8 years ago:

Orin receives the Atlantis Chronicles, learning of his relation to Ocean Master and beginning to sink into a deep depression.

Orin and his ally Dolphin are kidnapped by the terrorist Charybdis, who plunges his arm into a pool of piranhas, cutting his left hand off at the wrist. He replaces it with a harpoon.

Arthur returns to the Arctic, meeting again with Kako and his fully grown son, Koryak. Koryak chooses to travel with him and Dolphin on their travels.

Orin joins the newly reformed Justice League of America in response to a White Martian threat on Earth.

Orin and Garth reunite after time apart, and Garth takes the new title of Tempest.

7 years ago:

Orin reunites the scattered city-states of Atlantis to stand together against the threat of Tiamat.

Orin’s harpoon hand is broken, and he is given a robotic hand to replace it, indistinguishable from flesh and blood.

Arthur and Mera reconcile as Atlantis goes to war with the island nation of Cerdia.

6 years ago:

Atlantis vanishes in the wake of the war against Imperiex, hurled into the Obsidian Age by Atlantean magic and enslaved by the sorceress Gamemnae. The Justice League and Orin succeed in returning Atlantis to its proper time.

A large portion of San Diego, California is sunken into the Pacific due to the machinations of Dr. Anton Geist. Orin annexes the city into Atlantis, taking San Diego native Lorena Marquez on as the new Aquagirl. 

5 years ago: Atlantis is besieged by Lex Luthor’s Secret Society, and Aquaman leads the charge to defend it. Koryak dies during the battle.

4 years ago: 

Arthur re-joins the Justice League.

Atlantis joins the United Nations, appointing Garth as their ambassador to the world.

3 years ago: 

Orin comes into conflict with the Trench, a lost tribe of Atlanteans evolved to live in the deepest parts of the ocean.

Orin recruits a group of individuals into a team called the Others to search for lost Atlantean artifacts across the globe.

Half-Atlantean mage Kaldur’ahm comes to stand alongside Orin as the new Aqualad.

2 years ago: While Orin is on a mission with the Justice League, Orm seizes the throne of Atlantis for himself. Orin takes it back, and then decides to retire from superhero work to better rule his kingdom. Lorena Marquez becomes Aquawoman in his stead.

1 year ago: Arthur and Mera have their second child, a daughter named Mareena.

Present day: Orin and Mera begin to investigate the disappearance of the sea god Poseidon.

Commentary:

Aquaman is an interesting one, as for a long time he was a bit of a wildcard character, having many portrayals across various runs that differed wildly from one another, many of them a direct reaction to his depiction in Super Friends, which earned him a fair bit of public ridicule. What resulted was a regular cycle of Arthur being king of Atlantis and then being exiled, and he and Mera being together and then separated. This depiction aims to streamline that, with only one major period of exile from the throne, leading into the events of Peter David’s run, which are largely preserved here.

The lack of major Aquaman storylines in the twilight years of the post-Crisis DCU also allowed me to bring in several New 52 stories here, as well as introducing the idea from Young Justice of Arthur retiring from superhero work and passing his mantle on, again tying into the major theme of legacy that I’ve chosen to embrace. (Although, as Kaldur’ahm isn’t yet old enough in this timeline, that responsibility instead goes to Lorena Marquez.)

Arthur as a character is defined here by his responsibility, to his kingdom and to his family. He will defend them to the death and prioritize them before anything else, even if it causes him personal tragedy. Despite their past difficulties, he and Mera have reconciled and have a stable, loving relationship, and Arthur works hard to ensure that the disparate city-states that make up the loose nation of Atlantis remain at peace, even forsaking his duties with the Justice League to focus on his kingdom.

As far as physical appearance is concerned, the recent, Jason Momoa-inspired look DC’s been using as of late is absolutely perfect. It preserves the classic orange and green while giving him a little bit of an edge with the long hair and beard - a nice middle ground between the classic clean-cut Aquaman and the hook-handed Orin from David’s run. He’s a warrior king, he should look the part, and it’s almost a rule that every male superhero looks better with a beard.

Coming up next: Aquawoman (Lorena Marquez) and one that will sure to piss people off: Nightwing!

Got any questions? Asks are open! 

[lanthimo]

Hello! So, I am making a reading list for Orm Marius aka Ocean Master. This post is mostly chronological. But since he’s not a very popular character, it’s not perfect and my sources are limited (to some websites and my own knowledge, unfortunately). So, if I missed any issues, please help me, friends. We can expand this list together. Thank you!

Before Starting: This isn’t a starter guide. I am just making a list of issues where Orm appears at least for two panels (because we are that desperate when it comes to unpopular characters). However, if you ask my opinion, where you start depends on how you started to like this character. If you found this post after liking him in the movie, I suggest you to start from New 52. Then you can read Rebirth and if you want to learn more, you can go back to Silver Age since New 52 is a reboot, you won’t feel lost. Also, movie!Orm was inspired by pre-FP and new 52 Orm but the story is an adaptation of Throne of Atlantis event. 

From classic Silver Age to the end of Crisis

Aquaman Vol.1 #29 (first appearance)

Aquaman Vol.1 #32

Aquaman Vol.1 #35

Aquaman Vol.1 #37

Batman: Brave and the Bold #82

Aquaman Vol.1 #49

Aquaman Vol.1 #50

Aquaman Vol.1 #51

Aquaman Vol.1 #52

Teen Titans Vol.1 #28

Teen Titans Vol.1 #29

Action Comics #443

Adventure Comics #444

DC Super Stars #7

Aquaman Vol.1 #62

Aquaman Vol.1 #63

DC Comics Presents  #5

World's Finest Comics #263 

Action Comics #517

Action Comics #518

Action Comics #519

Action Comics #520

Crisis on Infinite Earths #5

Crisis on Infinite Earths #6

Crisis on Infinite Earths #9

Aquaman Vol. 2 #1

Aquaman Vol. 2 #2

Aquaman Vol. 2 #3

Aquaman Vol. 2 #4

The Best of the Brave and the Bold #3

Aquaman: Time and Tide #3

Aquaman: Time and Tide #4

Underworld Unleashed #1

Aquaman Vol. 5 #18

Aquaman Vol. 5 #19

Aquaman Vol. 5 #20

JLA #9

JLA #10

JLA #11

JLA #12

JLA #15

JLA: The Nail #2

Aquaman Secret Files #1

Action Comics #760

Aquaman Vol. 5 #63

Aquaman Vol. 5 #64

Aquaman Vol. 5 #65

Aquaman Vol. 5 #66

Aquaman Vol. 5 #67

Aquaman Vol. 5 #68

Aquaman Vol. 5 #69

Action Comics #783

JLA #68

Aquaman Vol. 6 #26

Aquaman Vol. 6 #27

Aquaman Vol. 6 #37

Infinite Crisis #3

Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis #43

Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis #44

Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis #45

Superman #657

Justice League of America Vol. 2 #21

Final Crisis #1

Final Crisis: Requiem #1

Final Crisis #2

Final Crisis #7

Batman: The Widening Gyre #3 (only in 2 panels)

Aquaman: Death Of A Prince TPB

General Mills Presents: Justice League #4

Flashpoint 

Flashpoint #2

Flashpoint: Deadman and the Flying Graysons #1

Flashpoint: Deathstroke & The Curse of the Ravager #1

Flashpoint: Emperor Aquaman #1

Flashpoint: Grodd of War #1

Flashpoint: The Legion of Doom #1

Flashpoint: The Outsider #1

Flashpoint: Wonder Woman and the Furies #1

Flashpoint: Deathstroke & The Curse of the Ravager #2

Flashpoint: Emperor Aquaman #2

Flashpoint: Kid Flash Lost #2

Flashpoint: Wonder Woman and the Furies #2 

Flashpoint: Emperor Aquaman #3

Flashpoint: Wonder Woman and the Furies #3

Flashpoint  #4

New 52

Aquaman Vol.7 #0 (heavily mentioned & important)

Aquaman Vol.7 #14

Justice League Vol.2 #15

Aquaman Vol.7 #15

Justice League Vol.2 #16

Aquaman Vol.7 #16

Justice League Vol.2 #17

Aquaman Vol.7 #19

Aquaman Vol.7 #21

Aquaman Vol.7 #22

Aquaman Vol.7 #23

Aquaman Vol.7 #23.1

Aquaman Vol.7 #23.2

Aquaman Vol.7 #25

Aquaman Vol.7 #36

Rebirth

Mera: Queen of Atlantis #1

Mera: Queen of Atlantis #2

Mera: Queen of Atlantis #3

Mera: Queen of Atlantis #4

Mera: Queen of Atlantis #5

Mera: Queen of Atlantis #6

Aquaman Vol.8 #1

Aquaman Vol.8 #41

Aquaman Vol.8 #42

Justice League/Aquaman: Drowned Earth Special #1 (thanks to @nropay for reminding me)

Post-Rebirth (2018-)

Justice League #30

DC’s Year of the Villain

Ocean Master: Year of the Villain #1

OTHERS

Young Justice #5

Young Justice #14

Young Justice #15

Convergence Justice League #1

Convergence Justice League #2

[orange-s-mario]

retagging everything for multiple reasons

most notable is probably the superhero stuff

Most of the time tags are going to be

Superhero (Secret Identity)

Kryptonians throw a wrench here. The name that's different goes first usually (so despite clark usually having less of a connection to kryptonian culture, the tag starts with Kal-El or Kal-L)

Cir-El doesn't get Mia in this and Chris Kent doesn't get Lor-Zod. The Lor-Zod tag will be exclusively for evil Lor-Zods

the karas get different tags too:

Supergirl (Linda Lee Danvers/Kara Zor-El), Supergirl (Linda Lang/Kara Zor-El), and Supergirl (Kara Danvers/Kara Zor-El)

Maybe Linda Danvers + Mae Kent Supergirl get a different tag but maybe not. probably not

I already explained the Jonathan Kents in another post

If I feel a version strays too far from another I might differentiate it more but so far it's only been new 52 teen titans despite some of my gripes with Post-crisis Superman.

This is also so when a character uses a different identity I can write Nightwing (Cheyenne Freemont) or Red Hood (BTBTB) or Starman (Bruce Wayne) or Starman (Mikaal Thomas) or Nightwing (Van-Zee), etc.

Aquaman will probably be separated into Aquaman Waterman, Arthur Curry, and Arthur Orin Curry.

Orms will also be separated but it might just be Pre-crisis Orm, Post-Crisis Orm, and N52 Orm

green lantern will probably just be that tag followed by the name. Not sure though... ugh so anyways apparently I’ll have to split some luthor tags too Lex Luthor is for main bad guy Luthor (Silver Age/Earth-One and onwards) Alexei Luthor is for Earth-Two Luthor Alexander Luthor is exclusively for earth-three/earth-3/earth 3 versions Alexander Luthor Jr is for the one introduced in Crisis Lex Luthor II for the clone that’s actually the orignal Lex Luthor Jr for the baby on Lexor And Alexis Luthor for the one from Earth 16/The Just

[sebeth]

Aquaman AU Question: What would happen if Orin was born with brown hair instead of blonde hair (Atlanteans for a long time had been superstitious towards blonde haired Atlantean babies no thanks to Kordax who they saw as deformed and would abandoned the infants on the ocean floor) and was born and raised in Atlantis alongside his mother Atlanna the queen of the kingdom? Info on Orin Aquaman's 1989 origin.

Arthur’s personality would be very different - arrogant, entitled, regal. He may not even have an interest in protecting the surface world.  He might go on Namor-style crusades against the surface world.  Perhaps the curiosity about his father finally brings Arthur to the surface.

Arthur’s relationships with Orm and Garth are the ones most impacted by this AU.

Does Arthur even form a bond with Garth?  Garth suffered from Atlantean prejudice due to his violet eyes.  Does Arthur have the same prejudice or does he feel a kinship with Garth’s “outsider status” due to his half-human heritage?

Orm has had many origins.  If we use Orm’s “New 52″ origin - is he even born?  Atlanna would have no reason to marry for political purposes as Arthur is her heir.  Or does Atlanna later wed - out of love - and we still have the same “battle for the throne” relationship?  Throw in Arthur’s resentment over Orm having a father while Arthur does not - Arthur would be the bitter one in this scenario.

If we use Orm’s pre-Crisis origin - perhaps Tom Curry weds Mary O’Sullivan and Orm grows up in a loving household.  Does Tom even know Atlanna gave birth - she could have left when she realized she was pregnant.  Orm has no reason for resentment if he has no knowledge of Arthur’s relationship to him.

Orm’s post-Crisis origin would be same old-same old with no familial connection between Arthur and him.

Perhaps Arthur falls in love with Lori Lemaris when she searches for Atlantis.  Arthur later weds Mera in an arranged political marriage.  Possibly to cement an alliance with Xebel. Mera brings Kaldur’ahm with her who becomes Arthur’s ward. Soon afterwards an amnesiac blonde calling herself “Dolphin” enters Atlantis and you have a three-way battle for Arthur’s heart.  

Garth and Tula gossip and take bets on the eventual winner.  Mera finds solace with Diana of Themyscira (her first love - see DC Bombshells).  Lori complains to Superman, her former love.  Justice League meetings become uncomfortable as tensions rise between Aquaman, Superman, and Wonder Woman.  Batman and Vulko both wonder why they have to put up with these shenanigans.

An escaped captive from Xebel discovers his son is in Atlantis.  The man assumes the Black Manta identity and forms a fleet to attack Atlantis - he will have his son back.  Is Black Manta an anti-hero in this universe or does he become a straight out villain when he crosses the line to retrieve his son and enact vengeance for his dead wife?

[musikat18]

*takes a very long sip of tea, then sits for a moment*

War For The Throne doesn't work as a good vs evil narrative without massive changes, and even with the massive changes they do make, it completely misses the point of the story.

I feel like Throne Animated's biggest weakness is that War really can't be an Aquaman origin story as presented, and they don't really change it in the ways it would need to be changed in order to make that work, especially by omitting Vulko.

Like, the whole crux of War is that it's ultimately a pointless conflict that neither side's leadership really wanted that was started as a political act of conspiracy. The surface probably doesn't want to be invaded and wiped out (just a hunch here) and Orm as stated doesn't really want conflict with the surface. He's not against defending his nation if he has to, but 1) that's his job and 2) he says outright that he has no desire to fight them but I already made a post about that.

And you could say, "But Kat, there IS still a conspiracy in Throne Animated! Orm (mediocre at best ffs do not get me started) conspires with Black Manta (rip) to become king so he can invade the surface!"

And if that is what you are thinking, I will say in return, "Just having a secret plan to oust a current ruler for a new one in both versions does NOT make them the same!"

War For The Throne, for all the wider warts brought in from the New 52 around it, is a good narrative about how communication breakdowns and deliberate disinformation lead to conflict that ultimately is unnecessary. I could stand for a little more on the broader Atlantean perspective about going to war since we only really hear from Orm and Vulko, but it's about the failure of the systems, not the failure of the individuals.

But Throne Animated is just...so determined to mirror the source material while simplifying it for time and content that it completely hollows out the story. It's clear from its predecessor, Justice League: War, that it wants to directly adapt those New 52 early JLA storylines into hour-long films. But whereas JLW almost directly quotes its source verbatim several times (except for the parts where it had Arthur in it because Arthur was already ESTABLISHED in that in the comic but they left him out in the animated one and I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET INTO MY THOUGHTS ON THAT), so much of Throne Animated is changed that, compared to the source material, it's almost unrecognizable except for mainly the SuperWonder scenes.

Arthur having mild shellshock from learning the truth about his nature is not a strong enough reason for me to believe he doesn't want to take the throne. Orm not having the anchoring desire for a connection with his half-brother, I can see kind of making him inclined to attack the surface. But I've already established that I think this Orm is WILDLY out of character so I'm not going to touch him for now~

There is just a fundamental misunderstanding of why War is such a compelling story, and trying to turn it into a good vs evil narrative where Arthur is just kind of going along with the ideas of those around him-- the JLA and Mera-- and where Orm is kind of just hell-bent on committing violence because he's ready to do some violence just doesn't work. The narrative is compacted in all the wrong ways.

I think there are ways to make War a more focused story that doesn't quite have the universal scope of a large crossover comic without compromising the themes of failed systems and traditions that need changing.

It's almost like all of these complaints that I have about Justice League: Throne of Atlantis are ones I know I will probably see done better in 2018 Aquaman.

Me preparing to power through some Bullshit for this paper

[aion-rsa]

Aquaman Villains Explained: Orm - Who is Ocean Master?

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King Orm of Atlantis is one of the most important Aquaman villains. Here's everything you need to know about Ocean Master.

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Dec 14, 2018

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The oceans will boil with brotherly hatred when the Aquaman movie hits theatres. The war between Arthur Curry and his conniving brother Orm, the Ocean Master, for the Throne of Atlantis has long been a staple of the legend of Aquaman. It's a Shakespearean struggle that is perfect for the big screen.

We already covered the history of one undersea baddie in Black Manta, so let's take a look at the other film villain, King Orm, the Ocean Master. We’ve said it before, prior to the Silver Age, Aquaman never really had an A-list rogues gallery, but that all changed with the arrival of Ocean Master. So let’s take a look at this homicidal, regicidal, fratricidal madman, the would be king... Orm, the Ocean Master!

The Early Days

Ocean Master first appeared in Aquaman #29 (1966) and was created by Bob Haney and Nick Cardy, the same legendary creators that dreamt up Black Manta. In this classic tale, the cover blurb asks, “Aquaman a coward?” as Haney and Cardy unfold the Sea King’s first battle with Black Manta. Over the course of the debut, Aquaman keeps running (swimming) away from Ocean Master every time the new baddie rears his finny head. Aqualad looks on aghast as the always brave Aquaman tucks his gills, pees himself a little, and flees from the freshly debuted Ocean Master again and again. In his first appearance Ocean Master tries to blackmail the world’s navies by trapping a ship in an iceberg and implanting a whale with a device that causes disaster wherever the whale goes. Wait, really? Whoah. I love you, comics.

read more: Aquaman Review

Anyway, as Ocean Master bedevils the world with his killer icebergs and dickhead whales, it is revealed that the villain is actually his half-brother Orm! Gasp! Aquaman tells a shocked Aqualad that the Sea King’s human father remarried after his Atlantean wife, Aquaman’s mom, died. The two humans had a son together and, for some reason, named him Orm. Orm longed for the sea, and when he was hit in the head with a rock, he contracted amnesia and went mad. Still longing for the sea, Orm built himself a high-tech suit and set plans into motion to become an underwater dictator and all around shitheel.  

From robbery to visions of monarchy, after his first appearance, Ocean Master decided he would use his technological mastery to take the throne of Atlantis from his brother. In these subsequent battles in the Silver Age, Ocean Master had no memory of his past, but Aquaman knew, making each battle with Orm a personal struggle. Finally, after being possessed by Deadman, Ocean Master regained his memory, and much to his regal brother’s horror, Orm still desired to usurp and destroy Aquaman.

The Revised Origin

In writer Peter David’s early '90s absolutely must read run on Aquaman, King Arthur of Atlantis discovers that Tom Curry was not actually his father. Instead, David revealed that Aquaman was the son of an Atlantaen wizard named Atlan. Atlan, the ol' sea smoothie, got around and had another son with an Inuit woman. So in the post-Crisis era of the DCU, Orm and Arthur were still siblings and Orm was still a fratricidal dick.

read more - Aquaman: How the King of Atlantis Got His Throne

The post-Crisis Ocean Master was much more front and center in the DC Universe. In 1995’s Underworld Unleashed event, Ocean Master sells his soul to the devil Neron in return for a power boosting trident. Orm also joins Lex Luthor’s Injustice Gang in the pages of Justice League. This team of evildoers was all considered each of the “Big Seven” Justice League’s perfect foes. This shunted Orm to the big time of DC villainy where he has remained ever since.

The most important post-Crisis Orm revelation (Ormvelation?) came in The Atlantis Chronicles (1990). In this mini-series (which has some of the best fantasy world building this side of Tolkien), it is revealed that the idea of brothers struggling for the throne of Atlantis has been a constant in Atlantaen history. This reveal gives the battle between Orm and Arthur a grand and epic feel. They are each filling the role of an ancient underwater struggle which is all sorts of tragic.

New 52

When the DC Universe rebooted in 2011 with the New 52 so did the origin of Orm (Ormigin?). In the new DC continuity, the future Ocean Master was the son of Aquaman’s mother and a member of the Atlantis Elite Guard. When his parents died, Orm found himself as King of Atlantis...until his half-brother Arthur arrived from the surface to take back the throne. This whole bit of high fantasy awesomeness was the brainchild of writer Geoff Johns and it's no coincidence that this is the one inspiring the Aquaman movie version, where Patrick Wilson will wear the stylish Ocean Master helmet.

Throne of Atlantis

Orm’s next major appearance was in the modern classic Throne of Atlantis. In this tale, a surface vessel unwittingly attacks Atlantis. In retaliation, Ocean Master tries to attack Boston and comes face to face with the Justice League. Not knowing the details of the surface attack on Atlantis, Aquaman sides with his brother against the League. During the struggle, Orm tries to flood Boston which if you think about it, would have prevented the Red Sox from winning two World Series and kept the Patriots out of the Super Bowl, so maybe this isn't such a terrible idea. Anyway, by story’s end, Ocean Master is arrested and Aquaman retakes the throne.

Ocean Daddy

Ocean Master escapes prison in the 2013 Forever Evil storyline, but in a delicious twist, instead of reverting to his evil ways, Ocean Master meets and settles down with a single mother named Erin. Orm becomes a father to Erin’s son Tommy, but during the events of the 2018 Mera, Queen of Atlantis mini-series by Dan Abnett (it’s a hidden gem, kids, check it out), Orm is drawn back to the depths to become Ocean Master once again.

read more: Complete DCEU Movies Schedule

As for his powers, Orm’s abilities change with the ages of the character. During the Silver Age, Ocean Master uses high tech weapons to challenge Aquaman. In the post-Crisis DCU, Orm was also powerless until his deal with Neron which gave him the ability to manipulate magical energy through his demonic trident. In the New 52 continuity, Orm has the same powers as Aquaman (minus the talking to fish stuff). The modern Orm uses his trident to control lightning and his crown to summon tsunamis and control water. Pretty badass.

But it is his place as Aquaman’s brother that makes Ocean Master so great. Orm could have been a hero, an adventuring king, but instead, he is a bitter recluse always in his brother’s shadow. And that’s the kind of characterization that makes for great drama.

You'll meet Ocean Master in the Aquaman movie when it opens on Dec. 21.

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[lanthimo]

I saw your Orm posts and I love them thanks for feeding us information I've never read Aquaman comics before. But I still don't get did you like the movie or not?

Hi! First of all, no problem, I like to talk about Orm… a lot lol

Well, I have always loved James Wan. I like the Conjuring movies. I like how sweet, cool, funny and humble he is. And VFX was craaazy in that movie. Story was mostly okay. James tried to do his best in 2.5 hours I think. But I feel like some parts were really unnecessary and could be replaced by more important scenes. 

We literally know nothing about Orm as a person. He is supposed to be that complex villain but he… really wasn’t. He was closer to being one dimensional than complex. New 52 Orm was not even a villain, he was complex, interesting. While the movies gives me that “I want war!” and “I hate my brother!” grumpy man. I think “I love you, brother, but it’s my duty” story would be much more appealing to the audience. Nowadays people really love those anti-hero/anti-villain characters more than Silver Age villains and heroes. P.S. I love Patrick Wilson and I think he was great that’s what saved Orm for me

Vulko could be so much better as well. I think people would like New 52!Vulko more. I hate him in the comics but he was a nice dude in the movie. But asshole Vulko is more interesting than nice Vulko. He could blame the death of Orvax (since he was young when his mother was sent to Trench in the movie) on Orm, I don’t know. He was training Arthur in the movie and loved him so unlike comics he has more reason to want Arthur as the king. Him turning out to be a traitor and liar would be interesting (and I mean actually starting a war and betraying Arthur’s trust, not Orm).

Why does only Mera have powers? What about other Xebel royal family members? Since Wan made Nereus Mera’s father instead of fiancé… why does Nereus not have the same power? Unlike comics, Mera is the only one who has that power in the movie?

And since we are talking about powers, why is Mera so surprised by Arthur’s marine telepathy powers? That makes no sense. Atlanna was supposed to have that power, too?? What is with this movie and lack of super powers?

And where the fuck were Orm’s powers? The ‘Call of Orm’ as Injustice games calls it… I would die to see that shit on the movie. It’s so bad-ass. 

I kinda feel like the movie tried to make Arthur a chosen one instead of being the king simply because he’s the first born of the queen. And I always hated chosen one stories, that’s why I never cared about Harry Potter (well, not true, it never piqued my interest). ‘Chosen one’ takes the heroism out of the character and its story usually. It’s his ‘destiny’, he has to do this. Not because he wants to etc. (Sorry I can’t speak English today lol)

Last battle was visually amazing but that Arthur vs Orm didn’t make me feel anything. I was expecting something more… epic. I don’t know. 

I also was distracted by how every god-damn conversation in that movie was interrupted by same slow-mo explosion lmao It happened like 5 times sdfgdsdf

I would prefer it if Atlantis was exposed to the world like in Throne of Atlantis comics. This way movie wouldn’t act like taking the throne would solve everything. The real enemy was always the pollution but at the end it felt like stopping the war and taking the throne. Yes, those are good goals but if Atlantis was exposed we would at least get a 15 seconds long scene that would fix everything, like, foreign king, Arthur meeting world leaders to discuss this problem etc

People always get away with every bullshit they do in comic book movies ffs

Anyway, I love the cast, I love James. It was a good movie. I enjoyed it. I think characterization could be a bit better.