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I think I went a little bit insane over the scene where Vincent says “do you remember what you said to me the night we freed you?” and Adriel, without even looking at him, just goes “no”. Holy shit that moment was so fucking good, the fact that Adriel just simply doesn’t remember. The way that we didn’t get to hear the dialogue back in season one, and I was expecting when Vincent asks the question that we were going to get the reveal of what he said. But no. They do something much cleverer with the scene. They reveal that he just doesn’t remember. It was never that important to him. Vincent was never important to him. The being that Vincent betrayed everyone who believed in him and loved him for, just doesn’t care about anyone, unless they further his own agenda. I know Vincent uses Duretti’s death to explain his disillusionment in Adriel to the others, but this, this was the moment Adriel lost Vincent. Such a powerful fucking scene man
#this show is so fucking good I can’t#warrior nun#warrior nun spoilers#wn spoilers#father vincent#adriel#as always just my personal interpretation
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I just realized some people are confused about events in the alluded to past in Mouthwashing, particularly about how long the crew has been working together.
The only person who is truly new is Daisuke and it’s why his dynamic with the crew and role in the story is very unique and somewhat distant. Curly didn’t just get Jimmy this job on the Tulpar, he got him the job with the Pony Express. He’s been his copilot for probably a couple of years but still not as long as they’ve been friends. None of them are new with the freight industry, Anya and Swansea especially have been doing this for years, together.
Jimmy is the newest on the regular crew, maybe just a few assignments, but it’s not his first time working with them. I think it’s just something important because this isn’t just one bad mistake that snowballed with giving Jimmy the job. None of them thought Jimmy would do anything, no matter how off-put by him they could’ve been, since he hadn’t done a thing since being there. Generally unpleasantness isn’t a crime and he’d be aware of that.
It was a festering thing and a sort of forced trust they had to give him that he knowingly took advantage of. He was the black sheep and still a wolf under the wool. He expected when he lashed out, that he had been there long enough for it to be looked over completely. Got too comfortable in the space he inserted into and did a lot of damage with his claws when he felt he was going to get shaken out.
#I think acting like if Curly just didn’t give Jim the job this wouldn’t have happened is underplaying that they’ve all been working for PE#for a bit and that Jimmy got comfortable enough to do something horrible like#a lot of factors made the trip being out the worse parts of them but Jimmy was slowly letting his worse parts show and I think people assume#that this was one a few mission he went on with Curly and that he advocated for him completely when it was more likely#he pulled some strings so Jimmy could work right under him and stay out of trouble with a decent job and it back fired cause Jimmy is just#not a good person like I see people acting like his breakdown and choice to crash the ship was because this was probably one of the last#chances to fix his life and he couldn’t admit he fucked up soemthing literally handed to him so badly and cruelly#I think people forget that predators like Jimmy rarely do anything the first day. or week or month or year#they ingrain themselves into the schedule and dynamic and build a sort of stability that make it harder to knock them down or push back#he has Curly’s trust as the co pilot and as a friend#Swansea doesn’t like him but doesn’t trust him and Anya is just wary initially#he doesnt even attack her at the start of the trip it’s implied it happens after the psyche evals and when she confides in Curly how#patronizing he is to her and her position. he’s retaliating against a perceived slight to his stability to him it was pure act of power and#anger because he’s at his core an avoidant bully who can’t take responsibility#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#jimmy mouthwashing#I didn’t want this to be a Jimmy post but it is#more so about how abusers like Jimmy work but I digress cause most of it’s in the comments
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andrew’s definitely gotten in trouble with his pr manager for tweeting things along the lines of:
“no mania inducing medication will compare to the euphoria i will feel the day donald trump drops dead”
#pr manager is like: andrew… this is the last time i’m gonna tell you#andrew: whats the point of democracy if i can’t exercise freedom of speech#pr manager: andrew it’s no longer about your image#at this point we are concerned the fbi is going to show up#andrew: neil has connections. i’m fine#they thought marketing andrew on social media would be good#they were sooooo wrong#because now andrew has a place to share every insane thing he’s ever thought#for instance—a tweet that just says ‘an alien googling: human clothes’#he’s on there advocating for lgbtq+ youth you KNOW HE IS#he’s cursing and mildly threatening members of congress for imposing these disgusting bills#one day he tweeted ‘does mitch mcconnell know he’s dead yet’#when mitch mcconnell stepped down from senate andrew tweeted ‘hopefully next he steps down from life’#unsurprisingly: this endears him to some people and makes others fucking hate him#and he’s such a shit. he does not care either way#he’s kind of just like: pr manager. you gave me a twitter and told me to tweet. i’m just doing what you asked me#they’ve threatened to change his password so many times#they actually did once but andrew reported the account so many times for defamation and fraud that it got suspended#and he made a new account out of pure spite#his pr manager is like: andrew nobody is going to want to sign you because of your public image#and andrew is like: ?? ok. they can lose every game then#(he knows he’s the best goalie)#ok i think that’s enough for now. however i will probably be back#andrew minyard#aftg#tfc#trk#tkm#the foxhole court#all for the game
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Couldn’t decide on accessories so here’s all 4🖤
#my stuff#my face#i tried to do an ocean eyeshadow thing but my face makes it hard to show at a good angle#bc my eyes are sunk into my skull so unless my eyes are almost closed you can’t see the colors#i also fucked around with outlining the veins on my hands. for the enjoyers in the audience#anyway first time i’ve gotten to feel hot in forever. i dedicate these to This Place Will Become Your Tomb
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time for more soren character analysis:
petrine’s battle conversation with soren in chapter 23 has always been a favorite of mine, and now that i’m looking at it again i noticed a few extra details:
it’s important to mention that this battle takes place directly after ike and soren’s a-support, in which soren confesses he’s a branded and expects to be shunned, only for ike to tell him that it doesn’t matter and he wants soren to stay by his side regardless.
anyway, besides “Now let me show you true fear!” being a really hard line, it’s really cool to see how soren’s reaction to his branded status being pointed out changes so sharply over the course of a handful of chapters. i already analyzed his reaction to nasir’s betrayal where he’s agitated over the fact that he could have prevented it if nasir hadn’t threatened to reveal him being branded to the army, so seeing him being so confident in himself is great, and i’ll touch on why here.
one of the reasons i like to say the game treats ike and soren’s a-support as canon is actually this particular conversation. soren, having just been reassured that ike will always want him at his side regardless of who or what he is, now suddenly has had his biggest fear and insecurity taken off his back. he doesn’t need to hate himself for being branded because ike, the only person who’s ever truly mattered to soren, doesn’t care at all.
back to the conversation, soren’s judgment over the situation at hand is no longer clouded by his own self-loathing. instead of comparing them as branded and seeing himself as just as horrid and disgusting as petrine (tiger branded, fun fact), he’s able to instead compare them as individuals and realize that what he’s done up to that point will never measure up to the atrocities she’s committed. i think the best part personally is just how disgusted soren looks by the notion he and petrine are the same, because he’s right— him being cutthroat and pragmatic is nothing compared to everything petrine has done in daein’s name— and the fact he can clearly see this means that, for the very first time, he’s finally starting to heal from the mental wounds inflicted upon him by his childhood.
overall, i like this little nod to soren starting to learn to grow and change from who he was at the beginning of fe9. it’s more clearly seen in radiant dawn, where he’s calmer to the point ranulf even comments on it, but these little inklings implying the start of soren’s healing are really cool to see.
#this amount of information in just two lines of dialogue is so good i can hardly stand it#funny enough i almost wasn’t even able to retrieve these screenshots#the other day dolphin just kinda shit itself and refused to read my game files for fe9#and i ended up spending like an hour fighting with the config to fix it#but for whatever reason the screenshot command is no longer saving to the folder even though it says it is#and i only realized this after completing the map#i got really fuckin lucky that i had a save state near the end that i could go back into#so i could just use my computer’s screenshot command to save it directly to my desktop#but it means that the screenshots of that one scene in ch. 22#where titania yells at ike to tell her who killed greil and soren tells her to chill because it’s upsetting ike#are gone if i can’t find wherever the fuck the image files went#which sucks because i really wanted to talk about that one too#sorry for the rant#anyway tags#tellius#fe9#long post#does this count as#ikesoren#fellas is it gay to devote your entire life to the very first person to show you kindness
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seriously I don’t think any show has captured the pain of being a bystander more than miseinen. like i just can’t stop thinking about everything he’s told in this episode and everything he sees and how powerless he is to do anything about it. when you say bystander, you think of people that chose to do nothing, who just stand on the sidelines and watch but don’t get involved. and maybe that’s how minase started out, but this show proves over and over again that it’s not a choice anymore. given the choice and ability, minase would stand up and do something. he’s not the person anymore stood outside hirukawa’s house with the emergency number dialed but ultimately doesn’t do it. bc he cares too much now, and when you care, you want to help. but the world is so rigid in what they expect of him and hirukawa that there is no way to help.
i keep thinking about what the teacher said at the start of the ep. this doesn’t concern you. it’s already settled. don’t make your parents worry. when minase says he’s telling the truth, he’s told to focus on what’s important- and so the truth isn’t important here, neither is what hirukawa thinks or minase thinks. it’s what someone has already decided they are, and they are just too busy or just don’t care enough to go to the effort to see whether that decision is right. it doesn’t affect them whether hirukawa is the awful person they think he is or misunderstood, to them he’s just a part of the job they want to deal with and move on. even though no other adults are as present as hirukawa’s dad or minase’s mom, the show still has these small moments that show us that there is no other option for them to get help bc no one at school cares either. i said before they live in a world of ignorance where they’re unable to ignore, and so they deal with it all instead of being able to find help. and it feels equally horrible when you consider that unlike a parent, who yes should feel some responsibility or obligation but ultimately there’s nothing holding them to that, teachers are employed and paid to care, they should help these kids as much as they teach them, so to see them chose ignorance too is just as hurtful.
and back to minase, this episode showed us perfectly how much it can hurt when you know you can’t do anything. he can’t comfort hirukawa no matter how much he wants to if hirukawa won’t let him, he can’t change his mind and how he thinks of himself bc hirukawa’s trauma traps him in that mindset. he can’t stay by hirukawa’s side and support him if hirukawa sends him anyway, he can’t fight against what someone who’s hurting wants, all he can do is listen, bc no one ever listens to what hirukawa wants, so he will, even if it hurts him, even if he knows that it’ll hurt hirukawa too. minase is done with being a bystander but even here he is forced to be one, bc the truth doesn’t get through to hirukawa just like it didn’t get through to that teacher. what’s right, which would be to stay with hirukawa and help him, doesn’t matter just like it didn’t matter to that teacher, all he can do is listen and do as they say when people tell him to walk away, that he can’t do anything. and that’s why this show is excellent, bc it makes me feel the pain of knowing but being powerless just as much as I do the pain of actually experiencing these things.
#I might be a bit broken#this show is just too good#it’s too excellent#the acting from these two this ep was just fucking off the charts#the way hirukawa’s response to this was almost cold and stoic you could see the shock and the confusion of what he’s supposed to feel about#this and you also get the moments where the hurt and emotion breaks through and he just breaks down#and you get the desperation that minase feels to help and support and stop hirukawa from blaming himself. he just wants to do something even#if it’s just be there for him and make it so that he doesn’t have to go through this alone but he can’t even do that bc he can’t fight what#hirukawa wants even if he knows it’s not what he truly wants- he knows how hirukawa feels about him but he also knows how difficult this is#for hirukawa to reckon with and he knows how hirukawa will burden himself before he does anyone else and that’s not good but it’s what#hirukawa thinks and feels and as much as you want to stop that there’s no switch no magic words he can say to get him out of that mindset#and so he has to go bc it’s what hirukawa wants and minase is the only person that actually listens to him#god I’m in pain#miseinen#our youth
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god the scene in season one where jonathan comes home to joyce and lonnie on the couch drinking together is harrowing. it makes me want to cry just thinking about it, your brother is dead, your mom is horrible mental state and is now also introducing your abusive father back into your house. what a fucking nightmare.
#i think it’s unproductive to try to determine whether joyce is a fully ‘good’ or ‘bad’ mother especially without acknowledging the#intricacies of grief or abuse or how victims go back to their abusers or how your son is stuck in a hell dimension but i think it’s obvious#she was at least being a bad parent to jonathan all of season one he was absolutely put through the ringer and joyce even temporarily#letting lonnie back in is just the cherry on top#anyway season one is sooooooo damn good it’s so fucking good it’s actually a good show in season one#i adore the funeral scene where dustin goes ‘wait till will hears jennifer hayes cried at his funeral!’ so cute so funny#and nancy. NANCY. the angels wept!#the scene where steve tries to get her to go to the movies vs the first ep… she is not a frivolous high school girl anymore. that can’t be#her life
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if id run away, joined the enemy, betrayed everyone I know, blew up a school, compromised a hideout, accidentally gave my crush a tracking device, incorrectly communicated the enemies plans, and brought back fake caches I’d never recover. rip to Keefe but I think I would literally never show my face again
#kotlc#keefe sencen#ZERO WINS!!#nobody got anything out of that!!#real bad all around!!#I can’t believe Keefe came home and talked to people again he’s braver than me#I’d be GONE and it’d haunt me every single night#I do suppose they figured out the lodestar map thing#but that. is so minor compared to how throughly Keefe fucked everything else#this isn’t malicious btw I’m just like good god man that’s SO bad how do you show your face in public?
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This is insane to me: https://t.co/WslCOnBtJU
They didn’t even call him. How the hell is he supposed to be explained out of the show? Jonathan’s best friend, who drove the gang all the way to Indiana? He’s just…gone? Not even being killed off - just not invited back. What!?
#stranger things#stranger things 5 spoilers#stranger things spoilers#stranger things 5#argyle stranger things#I am going to be so for real fuck this show#this feels racist in some way tbh#and you KNOW it’s so they can more easily put Jonathan and Steve together#and I like stonathan scenes I do#but what the fuck? I loved Argyle so much#he was so good#and he brought amazing energy#and for them to treat Eduardo this way is messed up#how the hell is this even going to work like#Jonathan offhandedly will mention Argyle drove back to Cali to be safe? he can’t even be on the show for an episode?#boooooo
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as hyped as i am for P3, i’m so scared that the fandom will sideline and ignore Clara even more than she already has been
#i really hope she has a big role in p3#like maybe she’s fully aware of daniil fucking with time#after all she knew about thrush and measly when artemy had no idea#so she has lines about that when daniil talks to her#and she’s like ‘bro wtf are you doing’#and doesn’t daniil have that plague finder thing?#imagine how cool it would be if when he pointed it at her she showed up all infected#since she’s the plague and whatnot#if that’s still even the remake games#i hope it is#i don’t see why they would have changed it#but i’m fully prepared for her to be ignored in favor of burakhovsky#which don’t get me wrong i like the ship#but the daniil-clara dynamic is SO GOOD#he is trying to defeat death and she IS DEATH#basically death anyway#LIKE THE POTENTIAL PEOPLE#man fighting death goes from fighting it to nurturing it#i love dadkovsky with clara so much#anyway rant over#pathologic#pathologic 2#pathologic 3#i can’t believe i’m alive to see that tag holy shit#i really am so hyped#daniil dankovsky#the bachelor#clara saburova#clara the changeling#daniil pathologic
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Dean is such a paradox for me because on the one hand, I have been actively triggered by him in the show, there are moments where, intentionally or not, the writers managed to create a portrayal of manipulation and abuse and control issues that it sets off actual alarms for me. And on the other hand, I would not have him any other way. There is something — not comforting, that’s too soft a word — about knowing where Dean’s actions stem from, having seen and learned all that we do about his childhood neglect and parentification and the trauma he goes through repeatedly in the show, and that he doesn’t come out clean. He comes out a goddamn mess who ends up hurting the people around him in reaction to his own pain!
There’s a reality there that’s. Almost nice, actually. Distressing to watch, but it is a fucking mess, it’s a good mess! He’s got zero healthy coping skills and a healthy relationship with say, his brother, is terrifying because it leaves him open to abandonment!
I’m not sure I’m wording this correctly. There is a way to be a good abuse victim. Take the pain, martyr yourself on it, and then, even if you have no support or idea how to, then you have to become a Good Person who never hurts anyone the way you have been learning to your entire life. Simply toss everything that shaped you out the door and emerge a saint with a tragic backstory. And Dean is not that. And that’s so fucking good. Everything that he has gone through continues to effect the way he treats the people around him, and he can’t fight the behaviors he might recognize as harmful because he also sees them as protecting him (or protecting Sam by keeping Sam with him.)
And sometimes, idk. It feels good to see a guy who didn’t heal the “right way.” Who mostly didn’t heal at all, just keeps the wound open because it’s easier that way.
#there’s a whole other bit to this about how like. it’s hard for fandom to hold the idea that someone can be both a victim and abusive#at the same time. that the ways someone has been hurt don’t always shape them into kindness and wide-eyed sympathy. occasionally it just#makes them hard to live with. and I think most obviously is the thing that a lot of what Dean does is an expression of love. of protection.#he’s very much his father’s son in that way. that’s why Sam. the guy he’s been Told to protect his whole life. is also the person he ends up#hurting the most. it’s tragedy. it’s realistic. it’s a good fucking mess.#and that’s why I don’t get interpretations of dean that are determined to shave off the ugly parts of his character. to me those are the#parts that make him a character worth revisiting. he’s so full of love. and he uses it to hurt people. he means to sometimes. a lot of the#time he doesn’t but hurts them anyway. he has been shaped by violence his whole life. and it’s just. I get why someone might take this#part of him away. to make him easier to love. because I get that he’s stressful to watch also like I get that. but he is.#he is compelling. in his anger and his controlling behavior and his strangling love. he is compelling in all the ways he has become this.#Dean’s degradation into these behaviors can be both a failure of a show that ran to long but also the believable trajectory of a man who#can’t heal. and I love him for that. I love him for emerging from pain as a angry sharp thing. I love that it brings the glimpses of him#being gentler and recognizing his actions as bad into stark relief. I love that this recognition often only lasts until he is hurt again and#then he backpedals into the safety of behaviors he knows will allow him to control a situation through force or manipulation.#it’s good fucking mess. you know? dean winchester everybody.#maybe I should have put all that in the main post. oh well. too late now.#spn#dean winchester#tw abuse
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Oh my GOD the penguin is a good show I need to kiss everyone who made the show and also Sofia gigante on the mouth
#Collin farrell was right I just can’t NOT hate oz by the end of the show#it’s actually so fucking good like I’m in awe#episode 8 is insane#the penguin#sofia falcone#sofia gigante#oz cobb#the penguin max
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So weird to actually have something to post
Ayase sketches yay
#dandadan#dandadan fanart#momo ayase#momo ayase fanart#art#fanart#god when I saw the first series I thought this shit is crazy#I probably won’t watch it ever again#and than I watched the second one#and the third#and I can’t stop I’m in love with this show#everything is so good I can’t describe it#OMG THE OPENING O MY FUCKING GOD#the ayase and okarun relationship development and chemistry and just them as characters#and visual#everything about this show is crazy and good#and I’m drawing again that just another crazy thing
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Hey *leaves a rare colored doodle of Cielo and scurries away*
Idk what they’re reaching for
His hair flip thing is too long but it’s the ides of march and that’s my excuse
#perspective#fuck yeah#used myself for a hand ref bc I can’t draw hands to save my life#i draw cielo with not-filled-in pupils and was struggling with how to show that when colored#ig the white pupil works?#the no pupil looked muddled so#decided to go with a lighter colored cape for now bc I have. stuff planned#the color reminds me of the live action cinderella with lily james#which is good ig#the fallen star au#disney wish#wish 2023#asha x star#star x asha#human star#wish cielo#starboy x asha#starboy wish#asha and starboy#starboy#saph doodles
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that vampire was hot objectively!! IM SORRY IM SORRY 😞
#Nosferatu :( i’m sorry#he was really hot#like UGH IABDKSKDJD#GOD LIKE HE WAS HOT IDK WHAGGSKDJXKSKNDKDNC#PLEASE RELEASE ME FROM MY MONSTER F’R TENDENCIES#REALSE MEEEEEEEE#*gotta go write something like now i’m so like ugh#it’s gonna be all i care about for like atleast a week#i wonder if it’s just a christmas showing#that’s what my theater said#i wanna go AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGIN AND AGAINNN N#like ugh#i can’t FUCKING GET ENOUGH#I NEED MORE#FRANKIEN STIEN YOU BETTER BE SUPER GOOD TOO
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regarding the difference in jason's actions towards two-face when he learns of willis's murder vs. his desire for bruce to have avenged his own death: rather than a change in morals or caring more abt bruce than willis this case shows jason's own hypocrisy. jason forgives and pities harvey bc hes a deeply empathetic person. i personally think that contrary to what he may say if bruce had died in jason's place, jason would've reacted very similarly to how he did in willis's case. after his resurrection jason latches on to the specifics of joker's continued existence, but inwardly what he's really feeling is a deep sense of his own worthlessness. he sees that bruce has moved on as though nothing happened, as though he never mattered; this triggers a deep sense of insecurity in him because he cannot so easily move on. he's stuck in the moment of his death, 15, waiting for someone to prove to him that they love him as much as he loves them. this discrepancy he feels between himself and bruce leaves him unbearably vulnerable. to assuage his own humiliation and feelings of inferiority he fixes on a problem which rapidly becomes black and white before his eyes: heres what bruce should have done if he actually loved me. id have done the same had it been him. however, as with almost anything jason says or thinks after his resurrection you have to ask yourself is he really being truthful to himself, consciously or unconsciously? when jason encounters earth-51's batman in countdown who did kill joker in response to jay's death, he seems instinctively to find this version of bruce lesser. he says to him 'we're both dead "batman." any fool could see you've been dead inside for years.' jason can't reconcile the caring person he had known with someone who would have become what that bruce did.
i think the reality of the situation is that jason would likely have reacted badly even (or perhaps especially) if bruce had killed the joker because the situation is just so fucked. bruce can't react in any way that jason isn't able to twist inwards into self-loathing. jason is simply unable to admit to himself that what he really wants is not for bruce to have killed the joker, but for his life, his death, his tenure as robin, to have been meaningful; for bruce to have unconditionally loved him as jason loved him in turn; for bruce to continue to love him, in fact to continue to need jason; more than anything though--he wishes he hadn't died, because ultimately he wishes desperately for things to be as they were -- but neither of them can ever go back to being those people.
... the tldr jason thought process is essentially -> bruce doesnt love me bruce never cared about me at all or not in any way that mattered i loved him wholly i would have done anything for him i would have died for him i would have killed for him. but LOL he would not have done that!
I love that you brought up earth 51 Batman because i think about him a lot and I think I’ve said it before how they’re both just hanging out with shuffling corpses BUT ☝️ I would attribute Jason calling this Bruce dead more to how he keeps calling Jason “Jason” and ignoring and not addressing Jason’s attempts to distinguish himself from dead-Jason. I think it’s very palpable to Jason the uncanny valley and horror of the situation because when Jason talks about dead-Jason bruce says “you” for both of them. And yet in the end bruce dives in to help when that Bruce is in trouble even tho he’s sooooo doomed. (Funny as hell for Donna and Kyle to just give Jason space to do that like in context it’s a sad moment but “we’ll just be over here”. )
I do think Jason has hypocrisy ngl but I will also but you here- I think it’s what you’re saying about the desire for proof of love but also with a combo of a change in morals. The difference could lie quality of the bad guy. I mean we get that out of Jason’s mouth, “I’m not taking about X Y and Z” but you’re right that you know, we can’t always take Jason’s word for it. But the other half of that line “doing it because he took me away from you” I think Jason thinks killing people is okay. It’s how the world works to him.
Tbh preface that I don’t think modern Jason feels this way about Bruce anymore, but the joker thing specifically was UtH Jason feeling Bruce was living in naïveté and that Jason’s death would be the thing that took him by the shoulders and forced him to confront that it’s okay to kill people sometimes. It wasn’t, because I don’t think anything is, although I see people saying he would if it were a different character and I get a little :(
Thanks for the ask, sorry I only talked about where I disagreed with you
#I’m trying to find fanfic where Bruce and Jason have a good relationship#long post#edit to say say 51 Batman was dead inside because he was killing lots of people and that’s why he was dead (inside)#and living in the past and having a fucked up fantasy and probably seeing dead Jason everywhere if we take bats track record#of how often they see dead people into account#but ☝️#and a Bruce understander can crucify me for it#I think he could forgive himself for one death. he’s done it for other people. would it tear him up? yes. but also he’d get over it#this Batman is not. like it’s crude to say he’s killing other people for self harm but I LIKE this Batman in a way that I don’t grim knight#or god forbid robin king. BECAUSE he very clearly to me doesn’t like killing people#so. he’s self harming by killing people and he’s dead inside and I have to be very humble when I say this okay. is it because#he didn’t have a tim#1 thing people get wrong for reasons I can’t understand is the post aditf Sman guest appearance#but like if you’ve read that. what’s the difference. joker shows up a year later but until that moment Bruce could’ve killed joker#and he wasn’t FINE fine but he was starting to be. so like hypothetically if joker never came back. Bruce chose to let him die.#world keeps turning he’s still Batman
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