#this nancy storyline...

[aurorangen]

Nothing was going to stop me

Transcript & Bonus:

First time in the big city

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[Unsettling thoughts were tormenting me as I waited for her. Why did I feel so nervous?] Nancy: Vincent [hurriedly] My family…w-we're moving to the city…s-so let's run away together and escape- [As much as I wanted to be together with her, I had to face reality. Running away was not an option]

Vincent: Nancy. We're not running away [looks directly at her, carefully considering his words] We'll continue as normal and try to get into our dream schools. Just wait for me and I'll come and find you in the city [voice falters, perhaps, due to uncertainty] It'll be different then. I promise you, we'll make it out of this mess…

[That was the last time I saw Nancy before she moved. Not once did I stop thinking of studying law at The University of Britechester. Being a lawyer would change things from the case to how people saw me. I would have that power and knowledge over people. No one would look down on me or think of that weak boy]

[I thought maybe, her parents would give me a chance once they saw me again. Honestly, I put so much pressure on myself to get those top grades. If I messed up, it was a sign my dad was winning this battle and he would continue to haunt me forever. Unless I gained that power. So I often studied until I exhausted myself]

[Time passed by and I was back in the city, ready to start my law degree at Britechester. The countryside healed all my childhood wounds, but the scars remained. To me, they were a reminder of how far I had come. I was moving forward in life and becoming stronger. And I was going to face him and the investigation again]

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Renee: Where's Uncle Billy?

[elevenenthusiast]

If those leaks about stranger things 5 on twitter are true then i have nothing else to say other than that it sounds ass.

[diamondsunbursts-and-marblehalls]

dead boy detectives is the perfect cure for a broken heart

[jumpedthenfell-13]

Basically every ronance sleepover that takes place before my flayed!Robin au fic:

Nancy: oh wow I’m in love with Robin. I can’t tell her though, I refuse to lose this friendship to something as controllable as some feelings. I can handle being friends with her. Nothing has to change.

Robin: oh my god oh my god oh my god she’s so pretty oh god oh god shut up I can’t say anything oh my GOD

[starry-eyed-steve]

I don't like how the Jancy fight got resolved here. Basically, Jonathan said it was okay for Nancy to be an ass to him about his financial situation because she was ultimately right. His problems got never addressed by the narrative because, yes, Nancy was right about the story, but Jonathan wasn't in the wrong either to call her out on her privileges. Unfortunately, Karen's pep talk prior to that did nothing but reinforce Nancy's behavior because ultimately Karen told her to keep going no matter who you hurt. Nancy didn't get a chance to grow because the show treats her as someone who can't do wrong. She still doesn't understand Jonathan and his struggles, and the show doesn't care either for this.

Neither of them really apologized. Nancy said she didn't mean it but couldn't say sorry, and Jonathan abolved her from it because in his mind, he deserved it. And definitely, the icing on the cake was Nancy's comment about him "better not doubting her ever again," destroying the small apology she gave. Again, showcasing she didn't learn or grew from this fight/situation.

[sapphic-bats]

Mike and Nancy should have another full circle moment where they have another talk.

That’s where we get some Byler revelations. And I don’t care whether we get Ronance or Jancy crumbs through that argument/discussion. I just want them to talk it out.

That’s it.

[shes-an-oddbird]

We are so not talking enough about how this article implies that Judd might have to go back to being a probie when he comes back to the 126 or that it confirms that Nancy does in fact get the massive storyline that she deserves this season. Why are we not talking about this?

[jonathanssweatercollection]

you still resent nancy and jonathan for getting together???? for “hurting steve’s feelings”??? despite the fact that he verbally supported their relationship like 2 hours after seeing them together. this from a season that released 6 fucking years ago. a season prior to him saying that he was NOT in love with nancy anymore. do you want me to call shawn levy and tell him of your dilemma. bestie do you need to rewatch the source material

[lonestardust]

carlos having a hot smart rival partner who challenges him and makes him question his abilities and skills in a time where he's already grieving and still trying to find his place in terms of everything and it makes him even more STRESSED!!!!!! yeah SIGN ME UPPPPPPPP!!!!!!

[pelorsdyke]

ronancetober - day nine: free day [west wing au]

“What the hell was that?”

When she enters Nancy’s office, the woman in question is scribbling furiously on a yellow legal pad, books and highlighters surrounding her on the desk.

“Good morning, Nancy, it’s nice to see you, Nancy, oh, thank you so much, Robin, it’s nice to see you too.” Nancy replies, not looking up from her task. Robin rolls her eyes.

“Good morning, Nancy. What the hell was that?”

Nancy’s pen runs out of ink and she switches for a replacement, tossing the old one into the wastebasket at her feet. Still, she doesn’t lift her gaze, though whether it’s purposeful or just a symptom of Nancy being deep in her work, Robin doesn’t know.

“I did my job,” Nancy replies, and her voice is sincere, if a little ticked, “you know, the thing where they pay me human money to make sure the President doesn’t get torpedoed by a bunch of idiots?”

“Yeah, well, you also directly undermined me to the press corps,” Robin reminds her, still thinking about the way Vickie Stewart pulled her aside after the briefing not ten minutes ago. ���You know,” she mocks, “the thing where they pay me human money to make sure the White House has consistent and accurate messaging?”

At this, Nancy looks up.

“I didn’t undermine you,” she says, instant, and her gaze remains locked on Robin’s. Robin scoffs and Nancy shakes her head, repeats herself. “I didn’t undermine you, Robin.”

“Then what the hell is the Post doing asking me about the Speaker of the House?” Robin replies, and Nancy frowns, considering for a moment. It’s one of the woman’s best qualities, especially given her job description, but sometimes it really pisses Robin off. Sometimes, like right now.

“Speaker’s not elected yet, Nance,” Robin reminds her, and Nancy shoots her a look, I know that, idiot clear across her face.

“What’s Stewart claiming to know?” Nancy asks, and if Robin didn’t know better, she’d think the tone in Nancy’s voice on Vickie’s name is jealousy.

“You don’t know it’s Stewart,” Robin says, just to be difficult.

“Nobody else at the Post would tell you,” Nancy fires back, “they’d just print the story and make it your problem at the next briefing.”

Robin bristles. She feels, honestly, a little protective over the journalists in the press room. She knows there’s staff that think she’s too friendly with them, but it’s important to her job to not be antagonistic as much as it’s important to her personally. There’s a non-zero number of people in the White House who consider the press and politicians to be permanently at each other’s throats, and Robin believes that’s a terrible way to run a country. Journalists are, as much as they’re occasionally pains in her ass, an extension of the American people.

“What’s she saying?” Nancy repeats, and Robin shoves her hands in her pockets, desperate for something to fiddle with.

“That Byers is trying to prop up a Democratic candidate to lessen the pressure during the impending investigation,” Robin says, quoting Vickie directly. “Special prosecutor not withstanding.”

Nancy rolls her eyes. “The President is supporting a candidate from her own party for a position in government. The horror.”

“That’s not the problem and you know it,” Robin replies. “We’re staring down the barrel of an investigation that could make or break the presidency— based on accusations of something she did in fact do, in case you’ve forgotten— and people are starting to suggest it could shift toward impeachment.”

“It’s not gonna shift toward impeachment.”

“It will if you’re an idiot about this!”

Nancy’s eyes narrow. “Choose your next words very carefully.” It’s times like this that Robin remembers she’s the least powerful senior staff member, that Nancy is leagues beyond her.

“There’s discussion of attempts on behalf of the presidency to defraud the American people,” Robin holds up a hand when Nancy begins to cut in, “whether you agree with the assessment is not the point, the point is that it’s the conversation being had. Now this kind of thing, maybe she gets a censure, has a black mark on her presidency. Fine. Not great, but not the end of the world. But there’s been talk for a while now about conspiracy.”

“Conspiracy toward what end?” Nancy sputters.

“Conspiracy to win a presidential election,” Robin replies. It’s another thing she’s quoting verbatim, though this time not from Vickie. “Lying to the American people, it’s tantamount to manipulation in some people’s eyes.”

Nancy sighs, drops her head into her hands.

“So tell me, Nance,” Robin says, gentling her voice, “what the hell you were thinking supporting Byers’ move here.”

“The same thing she was thinking,” Nancy replies, lifting her head to meet Robin’s gaze again, “that the investigation is primarily politically-motivated bullshit from a Republican Party that hates her guts. That they’re trying to tank her chances of re-election. That the special prosecutor is a good guy, but we’d rather have someone on our side in his ear.”

Robin considers her answer for a moment. It’s times like these when she really wants to smack everyone in the cabinet over the head with something heavy. Their instinct to not include her in these discussions is typically built on a not so terrible foundation, she supposes, with the idea that if she doesn’t know something, she can’t tell the press, but it’s also unbearably stupid. She’s the president’s first line of defense, the person who’ll get the questions about it, and it’s not a good way to build trust with the public to have your press secretary be an idiot who doesn’t have a clue what the administration is planning to do. Case in point, Vickie Stewart from the Washington Post suggesting that at the next briefing, she intended to ask Robin a question about the president’s push to elect a Democratic congressperson to be Speaker of the House. Robin had laughed, actually, at first, when the reporter had said it.

It also removes her ability to tell them the actually useful thing to do, media-wise, in times like this.

“Okay,” Robin says, sliding into the seat on the other side of Nancy’s desk, “imagine this. There’s three ways this goes, one of which is a Democratic-led investigation against a Democratic President, which ultimately leads— regardless of if they find her guilty or not— to questions of if we put our finger on the scale.”

Nancy wilts, a little. “You can’t be telling me you want to put Republicans in charge of an investigation into the sanctity of Byers’ election process.”

“I’m not telling you what I want, I’m telling you what we have to do. I’ll tell you, I’ll tell Hopper, I’ll tell Byers, I don’t give a damn. It’s not about what I think, it’s about what the American people think.” Robin pushes on. This is one of the reasons she’s gotten to where she has in her career: not only is she smart, people listen to her when she talks. And she talks a lot.

Nancy quirks an eyebrow, permission to continue.

“Number two,” Robin ticks off on her fingers, “is that the special prosecutor, who, by the way, is well-respected across party lines, runs this case independently. Here, you’re just tossing the coin up in the air. You know that, it’s why none of you were backing off on Speaker candidates. I’m not saying it’s pretty, but it’s politics. You know as well as I do that if he runs a clean investigation with nobody’s help, Byers is looking at a loss.”

Nancy sighs. “I can’t believe she didn’t tell anybody.”

“She told Hopper,” Robin says, though she knows it’s futile, and Nancy scoffs.

“And he did bullshit with it, so that’s not exactly helpful here.” Nancy replies, and Robin has to concede that point. “So then, the third way is…”

“Republicans, yeah.” Robin cuts in. “Don’t look so thrilled.”

“Just seems like we’re asking to get our ass handed to us,” Nancy says, and Robin can’t help chuckling a little.

“We are,” she replies, smirking when Nancy’s brow furrows with confusion. “We’re absolutely asking for them to fuck us over, Wheeler. Keep up. I’m a member of the American public, watching the proceedings, thinking about who I’m gonna vote for, and I see a bunch of Republicans taking a break between their trips to Fox to sit on a panel for forty-five minutes and talk shit about Byers to run a politically-motivated trashing against her from Congress, during an election year?”

Nancy’s jaw drops open a little in surprise, but she quickly swallows down the emotion, the corners of her lips twisting up into a smile instead. “Christ, Buckley,” she says, after a second, “you’re fucking terrifying.”

“Oh, stop,” Robin replies, pleased as punch, “you’re gonna make me blush.”

[thelesbianluthor]

I have of course my issues with stranger things but I can't lie, when season 4 vol 1 came out I was so obsessed with it. I loved it so much.

I feel like that season is so fucking good and the way they handled max storyline especially was heartbreakingly beautiful.

Are the other storylines weaker compared to it ? Yeah, especially the russia plot that I skip whenever I rewatch stuff. But damn I binged that volume in one sitting and it had been A WHILE since any show gripped me so much I watched it without stopping.

Also I got Ronance teaming up so I was incredibly happy about that development.

Vol 2 was lackluster to an extent and it didn't hit as much even though max and lucas side of things were incredible.

In general I do have a lot of love for the show. I have been watching it since it started and it's wild that I am 24 now and we are waiting for the last season.

I think in general there is a lot of stuff I love from each season and I go back to because I genuinely enjoy a lot of the characters.

Robin, Nancy and Max may be favorites but i care for most of the cast and that is a lot! The dynamics of the group make it work.

[flythesail]

I've been rewatching s1, and what's become interesting to me about Bess's arc is at the start - it seems to be about finding a family. Her entire thing is coming to Horseshoe Bay to be a part of the Marvins. Of course, she is for a little. But that doesn't last, and I also have to question whether being a part of the Marvins would have given her what she was searching for in the long term. As much as they are a family in a literal sense, it's also a performance through extravagant parties and how you present yourself. Is that who Bess is? Or, merely the role you take to fit.

After Diana breaks ties with her in 2x08 it's the Drew Crew that is there for her. They have become her real family. Yet while that's certainly implied by Nick, George, Nancy, and Ace gathered around her in the living room, it's not so much stated. Side note: this is "show don't tell" in its most basic form lol, but this still brings me back to the initial thought of what exactly her arc is.

Subsequently in s3, Bess continues her search for a place. Only this time, it's not as a Marvin but as a Woman in White. Her nightmare in 3x04 is about being kept out of the Women in White: "I'm supposed to be here! Please!" It's the same idea about her desire to be a part of the Marvin family. In that case, it was "I'm supposed to be here because of my blood."

When this theme reoccurs, it becomes clear her arc is about belonging. Sure, that's what she gets with the drew crew. She does belong with them. Yet it's not necessarily what fulfills her arc as it goes deeper than family.

S4 fortifies this idea with the conversation she has with the Chief: "This town... is my home, too. And as long as I'm Keeper, I'm gonna do whatever I can to defend it."

There's two things to note here. First, Bess has found her belonging not with a group of people, but in this place. Second, she's found belonging in the form of purpose. This aligns with her s3 desire to become a Woman in White (and with much of the show's message - following each member of the drew crew as young adults).

Bess is the Keeper and it is literally her job to defend Horseshoe Bay, but it's also what she fights for. She didn't fight to stay a part of the Marvins to the extent she could have.

Interestingly, through this she becomes the person she once needed to others. For instance, mentoring Jesse and Birdie in the supernatural. The significance isn't only that she's teaching them about the supernatural, but that she's a figure in their lives who offers a place where they can belong. Her search for belonging results in her finding it herself and becoming that place for others.

[timandlucy]

Whisper Box episode supremacy 😎

[pinkeoni]

I think it's funny how people are saying 'Nancy will want to pursue a career life without a marriage and kids' meanwhile the script says Nancy is supposed to be enamoured by Steve's dream and Steve himself the whole S4, but Natalia tanked the whole romantic dynamic between them with her looks.

I don't remember the exact part of the script that said she was enamored with Steve's dream (I had the scriptgate tag filtered for awhile) but I do remember the point in the actual show (the finished product) where Nancy says that having six kids would be and I quote "a total nightmare."

In your defense anon Nancy does seem enamored with Steve's dream and says that it "sounds nice" although it's only regarding the bits about road tripping to national parks, not the bit about marriage and kids that you brought up, anon.

When Steve brings up to Nancy that he pictures her as the mother to his six kids, she gives him this look—

Now to me this doesn't look like someone who is happy to hear that Steve has her in his dreams for the future, but instead, someone who is torn on having to break the heart of someone she cares for deeply because she cannot fulfill the role that he wants her to.

Although I am glad that you brought up Nancy's oddness with Steve this season because I won't deny that is there, but I do think there is a very, very simple explanation for it and it doesn't have to do with her being in love with him.

In the cross-cutting scene between Argyle-Jonathan and Nancy-Fred, we get this line from Argyle—

—which then cuts to Nancy responding to something Fred had said off-screen.

Would it be unreasonable to suggest that Fred said something similar to what Argyle said? And if so, is it unreasonable to suggest that maybe Nancy has similar wants to Jonathan?

The most notable moment where Nancy shoots a glance toward Steve is in the boat on the Lover's Lake, which is followed up immediately by this moment of Max looking at him through the binoculars.

Is Max in love with Steve? Of course not, but he has a nice body and Max has eyes. tl;dr—

Nancy wants hanky-panky

[jonathanbyersphd]

*laughs nervously*