#s5 speculation

[bylersbear01]

I think Jonathan and Will are going to stay at the Wheelers in s5 because of these photos.

There are 7 seats at the table and the Wheeler family only consists of five people. In s2 there were only 5 chairs at the table.

Now there are 6 chairs from the same set because chairs normally chairs come in a set of 6. So the Wheelers took the extra chair out for someone, but then they needed one more chair for someone else and since the chairs only come in a set of six they had to get an extra chair that was different from the rest. So my point is the two extra chairs are most likely for Will and Jonathan which means they will be staying at the Wheelers in s5.

[eclectic-sassycoweyes]

Wait - do you think Soup Ranger Campbell knows about Carlos’ sexuality? Do you think as they get to respect and know each other better Campbell will ask Carlos something like “do you have a wife?” Or “did your wife make that?” When he brings leftovers for lunch. And we’ll hear Carlos say “my husband, actually. He’s a paramedic”🥰🥰

I need to hear them refer to each other as ‘my husband’ and seeing Carlos come out at work would be so cool!

[jancy-central]

Every time Jancy shippers have to see another post about Jonathan and Nancy dying in s5:

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

[milevenweek24]

S5 mini-comic/fanart by k.egg0 on IG

[thecelestialsyzygy]

I don’t wish bullying on anyone, but I’m so excited to see Mike Wheeler get bullied and stand up for him and his boyfriend LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

[byler-alarmist]

Random thought- what if Robin reeeeaaallly didn't like Jonathan next season?

[honeybee-taskforce]

so since we (or at least I did) thought that this was TK being threatened/Gabriel's murderer taunting them, what if it's actually Carlos being called into work on a day when he promised to be free and spend the night with TK hahahahahahahahahahahahaha im hurting

[milevenstancyendgame]

Nancy and Mike's conversation in s5 better be better than this:

[raayllum]

thinking about the novablade. thinking about how ezran’s crown is a sword precisely because he didn’t want one. thinking about “lady justice laid before me her blindfold, her scales, her sword, and told me to choose.” thinking about ezran always wanting violence as a last resort. 

[zenon-karr]

I been trying to make sense of the the hints the Duffers have been dishing out and making sense of these posters. And I think I have a theory that connects most of the hints. I’ve pieced together recently that I think s5 of stranger things will be inspired by things like Us, They Live, and Uncanny Valley!! Hence why it looks relatively normal right now. It will be normal but people start to believe people and children are replaced by imposters because things are slightly off that babies or other people are basically monsters from the upside down or like the ‘flayed’ aka maybe like a mimic from dnd but they look like people but ‘off’:

I think they will solve the stinger at the end of s4 and they think they’ve beat 001/upside down. When really revealed that the enemy is actually mind flayer but we aren’t introduced to its final form till s5. but he’s built an army that infiltrates the main world by pretending to be human and the end of s4-beginning of 5 they’re lured into again into false sense of security when the portal opening just allowed the shadow monsters/mimics in. They’re alternate dimension beings lead by Mind Flayer to invade the main world. They tried with Henry and also Will to open gates and let the creatures in.

I think maybe the thing with the hospital is not actually that someone is this seriously injured but actually that The mains will realize something is off in the hospital bc they’re visiting Max. Maybe they start to realize that people are replaced by shadow flayed whatever versions of children/people in general. Maybe this is the meaning of the pregnant lady poster. And then there’s this drawing that looks like a shadow person. Then there is a the pregnant smoking - smoke and life under the cloud in the poster maybe the smoke is actually like shadow like the shadow monster but they’re people that are uncanny:

All creatures welcome poster and they even comment does this mean demogorgans? It makes me think they invite the monsters in their homes because they think they are their own children when they’re born or they don’t know people they know have been replaced by monsters you know so maybe the hints to switched at birth actually mean switched not literally like a soapy like children being swapped at birth but like in the horror monster sense.

Look at Holly’s room. She has an Alf poster I think Alf is a hint of an alien or something Among the humans. And along with the shadow person concept or alien/mimic idea. Peter Pan has the living shadow and then Ross posts this this billboard of a family where one is like disfigured so maybe one in so many people have been replaced by a fake (mimic or an upside down monster) the billboard even says ‘new residence’

Here’s the plots of They Live and Us! They’re both movies about aliens or beings infiltrating among humans. I been watching the supernatural horror TikTok’s of people thinking they’ve had encounters with a mimic and also Uncanny Valley. So I pieced together a theory based off the clues in Ross’ posts!

[wiseoceans]

Thinking about the fact theres a good chance that Will or Mike might be outed by Vecna next season💔💔

[thrandilf]

Viren in S5 about to be like:

[mordijerim]

If Patty shows up in s5, how do you think they’ll do it (/ do you think she will be in s5??)

yes I do! I strongly hc that she'll be living in Vegas with her mum and the party will go to find her.

I have a whole scene imagined in my head of them knocking on the door to the stardust casino (i think thats where Patty's mum worked??) but it being open. they walk in, look around and find Henry's cipher with his name on it and start talking about it being vecnas etc, patty walks in on them, camera only showing her cane so tfs watchers can do the Leonardo DiCaprio meme, and finally shows her face when she says "how do you know Henry?" or something.

anyway they take her back to Hawkins and she talks to Henry in the void yada yada, he gets redeemed before he miserably dies because he was never meant to have a happy ending and patty and el are the only ones not celebrating, bonus points if she learns about Bob's death after returning to Hawkins whilst asking joyce if they finally got together.

sorry for rambling but yeah that's my patty s5 prediction!

[rainwalker-dragonblade29]

The beauty of The Queen's Mercy

I doubt it struck any of us before that Kimdael's collar was of importance. Taken to be just a jewelry element, but never of Sunfire make.

Look at this, it's been centuries now and the collar is still on her neck in The Bloodmoon Huntress...

And there is an interesting implication I've gleaned after reading the story, here come the first thoughts...

In the new short story, The Queen's Mercy, Kimdael goes to Lux Aurea to seek the Protection of Queen Aditi. Protection from the dragons who had driven Moonshadow Elves out of their own forest and "killed them one by one" leaving only Kimdael.

Which we know is a lie, because the moonshadow race is perfectly fine in the show and that does not make her the last of them. Also, multiple times, she pretends to plead while it is evident that inside she is plotting something. That her visit to Lux Aurea is for another crime. She pretended to be meek to gain Aditi's protection. But she is there for a different motive for why else would the Bloodmoon Huntress walk in broad daylight?

As Zubeia mentioned, there was a time when, after the death of Luna Tenebris, the dragons fought over succession. So their wrath is very real. And Xadia did descend into chaos... but Lux Aurea held strong through it. So it seems evident that of someone wanted to seek protection at the queen's mercy, it was the place.

What is interesting is that the dragons killing other moonshadow elves. Specifically the reaction of the other elves in the court:

It may seem like a rumour because we know moonshadow elves lived and that Kimdael is lying. Or perhaps twisting a truth...

Given reason, the dragons could have attacked the moonshadow elves, if they decided to intervene and help sort the matter. It is possible that the moonshadow elves are hiding from the dragons and that no one has seen them in a while that Kimdael's desperate plea raises the question in the minds of the court elves that it could be truth.

But Aditi sees through it and takes her to the forge where upon, she makes the ornament and puts it red hot, and burning, sealing it around Kimdael's neck. Even enchanted so if Kimdael tried to kill her, the collar will choke the huntress, and thus it binds her to the Sunfire royal line.

Here's where it gets messy. Aditi says:

As of what Kimdael said, she pledges in return, the remainder of her entire life to repay the Queen's Mercy. And this moment a spark:

The collar can only be removed by a member of Aditi's line. Kimdael is bound to servitude.

That leaves only TWO people: JANAI and KARIM...

The question is... who will remove it? More importantly, who will Kimdael side with?

One obvious answer is... well, Karim.

Courtesy to this shot, it seems he will leave Lux Aurea. And Aaravos tempts makes into serving him by offering them what they seek. Karim has drive, he seeks a brighter future for Lux Aurea despite the way his ways clash with Janai's. And to better his own fate, maybe he would have left/escaped after the generals apprehended him.

Kimdael could rarely be accepted on Janai's side as she is obviously with the trio or will be later anyway, and Rayla will not let Kimdael anywhere near her friends.

And because of my previous meta here, between a possible connection with Kimdael and Aaravos, in the sense that maybe he is the one who gave her the longevity, in giving her knowledge of dark magic that she uses for the ritual and that he has kept her alive for some cause. (ie given her the opportunity of immortality that she followed in herself unknowing of a greater role she has to play)

She is a tool to him. One of his chess pieces.

She will be useful to Aaravos after he is free or perhaps she has something to do with the freedom... but anyway, it makes more sense that she joins the Aaravos party, and later or before her, Karim gets bound in it too...

Also it could be that she met Karim first, before Aaravos is released, and they are the ones Amaya, Rayla and Callum are against here:

Whatever happens now, Kimdael, by the collar, is bound in the narrative.

[milevenweek24]

Eleven S5 Speculation

Nothing big, has probably been said before. But since we got a new Hopper & El bts photo today, I thought I'd put it all into a nice little post.

We see Hopper at the junkyard, with Joyce and Eleven in the background. Eleven is wearing the same outfit (PLUS the bandana around her head!) we've seen her wear in the UD:

Clearly attacking someone/something

Nose bleed

She also wears it here:

My guess is that it's the lab, probably the UD lab

In the studio

And here:

On top of the radio station with Mike

And also on the field with Mike

I'm 99% sure that El is "training" with Hopper on the junkyard and in the UD. That would explain her clothing. That would explain Hopper's stop watch and the water bottles, which have been pointed out before:

Picture edit by @byrhop on Twitter

Going into the UD lab might be part of that training, if that's where she is on that photo.

S4 had El going through suppressed memories to regain her powers, and it ended up going in the direction of "training" to face Vecna.

And we know that after Vecna defeated her and killed Max, El felt bad about herself, as told by Mike:

"Brenner. He said that she wasn't ready and now she's starting to think he was right."

"It's just...she's never lost before. Not like this."

So it makes sense that El will want to prepare herself for facing Vecna again. The determined hero look in the last scene of s4 gives us an idea of her drive:

These photos might be unrelated, but who knows:

Junkyard target?

Unlucky demogorgon who crossed El's path in the UD?😂

I'm probably suffering from drought-eritis, but I think that might be El.👀🤪

Any way, I'm looking forward to this and expect a full-on dramatic training collage to "Eye Of The Tiger" in E1.😤🤜🏋️‍♀️🐯🤣

[thecelestialsyzygy]

Wait... if byler was basically just confirmed does that mean they kissed already