#this is about both korrasami and bumbleby

[jennawynn]

You know they can (and are, canonically) both be bi, right? You don't have to make one of them a lesbian for... why DO you insist one of them is a lesbian?

[citadelofmythoughts]

Thinking of doing a Caitvi/Korrasami/Bumbleby university fic.

Vi, Korra, and Yang are all fun, charismatic, brawling badasses with deep seeded emotional issues.

Caitlyn, Asami, and Blake are intelligent rich girls who are badasses despite their appearances and love their trouble making gfs.

Yang and Asami are both engineers.

Caitlyn, Korra, and Blake have parents in politics.

Plus could you imagine a band of Yang and Korra with Vi on vocals.

Of course, other characters from each series will appear, or maybe other fav sapphics from other series will be added later on, but mostly it’ll be about those six.

Thoughts?

There's a LOT you could do with that combination. So many potential interactions, especially in a university setting. It'd be fun to see characters like Korra or Yang discussing their issues with someone who isn't their girlfriend.

And the band idea? Always a winner.

I think you should go for it!

[cloudaintfair]

I love Korrasami and am actively watching two shows with gay and lesbian characters in them. In fact I love Hen and Karen in the show 9-1-1.

Their relationship is just so organic, sure the show started out as them already in a relationship but we do see their wedding in the season finale of 6.

And they're foster parents to boot.

There's also how the pilot episode has a husband come out as gay to his wife. Which may sound bad at first glance, but it evolved into a platonic relationship as parents as they decided to still become parents for their two children.

Now, the main point of this post. How will those bumbleby shippers label me now? I support lesbian relationships in Korrasami and Henrietta X Karen. I watch a BL show and also support MlM pairings, even with that said, I still don't like Bumbleby and how everything seemed to center around that ship.

I would argue that the ship has robbed both Blake and Yang of characteristics unique to them. It has made Yang into a very bad sister who's completely off with her younger sister, whom she claimed to have raised in place of her father as he went through a depressed state.

Yes, this post is just me gushing about the WlW and MlM pairs in fiction but still voicing my utter dislike of bumbleby.,

[hadesisqueer]

On Twitter there are polls to elect the best wlw ship, and I couldn't help but notice the snide remarks about RWBY and Bumbleby. I can understand misogynistic and homophobic men shitting on the show, but queer people? Why? Aren't we on the same side? Why are you insulting bmblb???

Yeah, I've seen it and honestly, the whole thing is both sad and hilarious. Bumbleby, Catradora, Bubbline, Lumity, Damie, Korrasami, Xena/Gabrielle-- I'm literally a fan of most of the ships in that poll. People attacking one ship or another are fucking stupid, because they're all great and important in their own ways. This poll thing is supposed to be fun and people are taking it too personal.

Now, people attacking RWBY and Bumbleby over this is sad as well, because they probably haven't watched the show and are going with just what they've heard from haters. Because if you are queer and you actually watch the show, then you know that Bumbleby is going to be canon and CRWBY's not baiting anyone. They have canonical romantic feelings towards one another. It is clear that they are going to be a couple, they simply are taking their time to develop them. It's called a slowburn for a reason, guys.

People talking about the lack of rep in this show is also kind of hilarious. Blake is canonically bisexual, Yang is canonically sapphic as well and, like I said, it's clear that they are going to be a couple. Ilia is also a lesbian. Saphron and Terra are both sapphic. Coco is a lesbian, too. Scarlet and Nolan are gay. And of course, we have May Marigold, who is canonically a transgender woman, and Shion, a non-binary character. And more queer-coded characters.

You can argue that Coco, Nolan and Scarlet being gay is only mentioned on side content, like RWBY Chibi or the novels. Or that Shion is only part of Ice Queendom. But even if you don't want to count them because of that—even if the first three are probably gonna be mentioned next volume, all of them being in Vacuo and all—, the main show still includes five canon sapphic characters (2 of them, 2/4 of the protagonists) and a trans character.

And no “they are implied, not explicit, so homophobes can still watch the show” bullshit, like I've seen some people say. Blake and Yang having feelings for each other is not implied, it's a fact; even other characters, like Nora, say so: it's pretty explicit. Ilia, a girl, confesses to Blake, another girl, that she used to be in love with her. Saphron—who is based of fucking Sappho—and Terra are quite literally married, call each other “my wife” on-screen, and have a child together. And May quite literally, explicitely says she's trans on-screen as well.

Could the show have more MLM rep? Absolutely, and the writers themselves have said they want to include more. But criticizing RWBY for “lack of rep” is proof that you either don't watch the show or you're stupid, because RWBY has more canon queer representation than most mainstream shows.

[iamafanofcartoons]

RWBY Critics are NOT victims of bigotry, but they act like they are to gain attention and sympathy.

As you know, the RWBY Critics LOVE to portray themselves as victims of a fandom for “speaking the truth” and “being discriminated against” while promoting negativity and hate against the show and its writers.

But they are just milking it now.

I can’t even. We’re bigots now? What?

R/RWBYCritics complains about a female bisexual VA in no less than 5 different posts, you defend the military complex in no less than 25, you defend a cis white male antagonist who is an abuser and a murderer...and I’m not going to get into your obsession with promoting Blacksun, a straight ship involving Sun who stalks Blake, over Bumbleby, which is two girls.

Korrasami and Bumbleby both have the blackhaired woman leaving the dude for an upgrade.

But..what?...This is why you people call Bumbleby fanservice?

LGBTQI+ relationships are NOT a fetish.

If you’re referring to the QrowxBlake shipper who faked their death to accuse the fandom of being toxic and yet the videos claiming they committed suicide are still up?

So no matter what CRWBY does...its bad?

I assume because people are always defending and worshipping the male characters as “victims” that critics feel this way?

Yes, I think RWBY can and should improve. But I’m not going to spam R/RWBY and Youtube with videos screaming “bad writing” “pandering” “toxic fandom” and the like.

We watch a show to enjoy it, not to pick it to pieces and claim how you are “superior writers” when all you do is promote men over women, mansplain team RWBY, and try to shove “moral grayness” or straight ships down people’s throats.

“Fixing RWBY” is NOT saying “I think RWBY should improve” its basically “I want RWBY to be in the anime stereotype image that I want”.

Just...you take this way out of context.

We ask that you let us enjoy RWBY....you twist our words around and throw it back at us demanding that we let you complain regularly about a show that was made for fun!

I pity you.....Criticism used to be about love.

RWBY Critics have not shown any love....between insulting the writers, claiming the show or the company is dying, insulting the animation, saying “rwby bad or rwby sucks” or making video after video of “stupid female main character this or that” ?

That is not criticism. That is not wanting a show to improve. That is not criticizing from a place of love.

That is appropriating a cause/concept for the sake of lashing out/spiting others.

Which interestingly is adam taurus’ theme....appropriate a cause to cause harm, and make yourself seem like the victim whenever people defend themselves or lash out against you.

I joined the fandom in Volume 5...and guess what?  I loved seeing women able to defend themselves against creeps in a gas station. I loved seeing girls be able to win fights against men.  I loved seeing Female protagonists while the men were deuteragonists. A female main antagonist who was not sexualized into wearing revealing clothing, none of the female cast were. The male deuteragonist ability was a support-type instead of a main ability. There were so many things I loved about volume 5. But all I see is post after post and video after video complaining about RWBY, and saying how you people are making a “love letter to Monty” with your criticism.

Guess what Monty said about you people?

Monty asked his friends to help him write the show that was built on a napkin.

Monty Oum himself told critics like you to stop watching the show if you were going to complain like that.

But its not like you’ll listen to a word Monty said while he was alive.

This isn’t even funny....This is downright rude and insulting.

And this is what is commonly allowed in R/RWBYCritics....The amount of Anti-Robyn Hill posts is ...scary to say the least.

Now this is going to be my last post for now calling out the sheer lunacy of this toxic negativity being spread against RWBY, CRWBY and the fandom.

I’m going to focus on delivering something positive for this fandom.

Because if you’re gonna call yourself a RWBY Fan? That means enjoying the show, not enjoying picking the show apart for something to whine about.

Good Night. And God Bless.

[dreanner95]

Somehow I managed to avoid the shows where the obvious same sex couple get baited a lot but never confirmed canon. The closest I got was Victorious but I realized the Jade x Tori potential years after I stopped watching so that doesn’t count. But seeing what happened with Supercorp and Destiel is heartbreaking. Same sex relationships should be represented in main stream media. And not just with token representation. Alex Danvers and Nia are really great but you could see how the writers just stopped there. Part of why creating a TV show can be so rewarding is that even as writers you can follow your characters and suddenly realize they developed in a way you never expected. That happened with Korrasami. They didn’t plan for Korra and Asami to get together. But they saw where their characters were going and adjusted as much as they could to get them together. And you can’t tell me the Supergirl writers had the same restrictions. Legends of Tomorrow exists. The main character on that show is married to a women.

All this also makes me even more excited about the media that doesn’t shy away from same sex couples. Beauyasha was the main couple of Critical Role Campaign 2 and Bumbleby is one reunion away from becoming canon on RWBY. Both CR and RWBY are made by independent production companies but they show that having those couples doesn’t hurt the success of your show. Even She-Ra made the whole show about the romantic feelings of Catra and Adora and was praised for it. I don’t know, I just don’t get why so many writers are still hesitent to do the natrual thing for their show.

[aspoonofsugar]

I wish unicorn of war would just disappear from youtube that person (cant recall their gender) with the ammount of stupid points they bring up and like recently comming on a video called how rwby fails lgbt about a show thats not over yet (and the video having blake and yang a couple that techiqually isn't together yet wonder if they are still salty over clover dying (all because a writer shipped him and qrow I didn't even know that was a ship cause to me it seemed oh clover is helping qrow

Hello anon,

I am sorry, but I do not watch their videos hence I can't comment on them. That said, I would like to use your ask to share my 2 cents on the whole LGTBQ+ representation issue, not just in RWBY, but in general.

I think it is important to realize that offering representation and exploring themes linked to LGTBQ+ or gender is not the same thing. It is the same for all important social issues. A story where there is racism does not necessary set itself up to explore the issue deeply or thematically. A series with disabled characters might not be interested on truly reflecting on disability. In short, just because there is rep it does not mean the topic is going to be at the centre of a story.

That said, rep is still extremely important to normalize some phenomenons (the existence of queer people and their right to have happy relationship, what living with a disability means, etc.). The more rep there is, the best it is. Obviously there can be some rep that won't meet everyone's taste and maybe in some cases it might be offensive to some and can be criticized. However, with the exception of very rare cases, every rep is on some measure positive and deciding that it is not woke enough for your standards is literally helping no-one.

Now, RWBY has some decent rep imo. Blake and Yang are main characters and they are clearly ending up together. The series also has minor characters that are confirmed queer like Ilia, Coco, May, Sofron,Terra, Nolan and Scarlet. There is absolutely nothing bad in this.

You want more? That is a fair wish, but not all series are gonna have as much queerness as you want. That is a fact. Some authors will be more interested in representing this kind of characters and in exploring these themes. Others will not.

You don't like Bumbleby as a ship? Fine, it does not change it is 2 main girls ending up together in a Young Adult American series that debuted in 2013. Like, I am not sure, but I think Korrasami happened in 2015... imo remembering RWBY has been planned in its major bits (which I am fairly sure involves the endgame ships) not today, but 10 years ago is good food for thought.

Now, Bumbleby's execution is not perfect (I really think they should have handled Sun better), but it is not even remotely as out of the blue or as badly written as some people claim. Imo it is something clearly decided since early on:

Black the beast descends from shadows. Yellow beauty burns gold.

Even dismissing Red Like Roses, volume 2 and 3 still clealry code Blake and Yang romantically.

Yang and not Sun is the one who convinces Blake to go to the dance:

Yang: And if you feel like coming out tomorrow, I'll save you a dance.

So, symbolically she is the one who brings Blake to the ball:

Sun: Sooo, does this mean we're going... together?

Blake: Technically, though my first dance is spoken for.

Notice that Blake and Yang wear complementary outfits (black and white, ying and yang), while Black Sun have both black clothes.

Not only that, though:

Blake: I had someone very dear to me change. It wasn't in an instant, it was gradual - little choices that began to pile up. He told me not to worry. At first they were accidents, then it was self-defense. Before long, even I began to think he was right. This is all just... very familiar. But you're not him. And you've never done anything like this before. So... I want to trust you. I will trust you. But first, I need you to look me in the eyes and tell me that he attacked you. I need you to promise me that you regret having to do what you did.

Adam: And as I set out upon this world and deliver the justice mankind so greatly deserves, I will make it my mission to destroy everything you love.

Yang: Blake! Where are you!?

Adam: Starting with her.

Yang is directly compared to Adam aka Blake's previous partner and lover and she is Adam's target the moment he is trying to hurt Blake. Like, crazy ex-boyfriend targets new love interest is a recurring trope. Not to count Yang losing her arm is juxtaposed to Pyrrha screaming Jaune's name while he is being attacked by Cinder. Arkos is clearly romantic and the 2 scenes happening frame beside frame is a way to equate the 2 relationships.

In short, structurally there is little doubt. Bumbleby is endgame and it is set up very very early on in the story. Criticizing the ship because it has yet to happen makes little sense to me. How many straight ships are confirmed at the end of a story? Why should they have the chance to crown the characters' arcs at the very end, but queer ones have to be confirmed early on to prove they are somehow good enough?

What is more, even if you somehow decide to follow this standard... so far only Bumbleby and Renora are clearly confirmed as endgame ships. Personally, I think all the major characters will end up in a ship by the end. Even if this were not the case, I am still fairly sure Renora and Bumbleby are not gonna be the only 2 ships. And yet, they are the ones who have undergone the most development and are clearly the closest to be confirmed as canon.

In short, for the standard of the series... Bumbleby is actually confirmed pretty early on imo :''')

Anyway, thank you for the ask anon and have a nice day!

[simplykorra]

I'm curious, seeing as you like so many great ships 👀 which ones would you put at your top 3 ships?

(hard choice I know)

This is hard lol. Mostly because I'm heavily influenced by whatever I'm currently into at the moment.

Putting recency bias aside, I'd have to say.

Korrasami - they were such a huge part of my life and kinda the starting point of shaping me into who I am today. Plus I met two of my best friends through that ship. Being a part of that fandom right after the finale (I showed up like two days after it aired) was so wild. There was so much talent in that fandom. Artists, writers, editors, gif makers, and it was the oddest little community and I loved it.

Catradora - saved my life during the hell that was 2020. Writing them and reading about them and watching them meant so much to me. To this day their fanart still puts a huge smile on my face every time.

Clexa - I'm hesitant with this one because of the whole recency bias thing I mentioned before, but a big thing for me with a ship is when you love both characters equally and that's Clexa 100%. My love for them is like...40% the show and 60% the fandom. Coming into Clexa like 7 years late was kind of a blessing because there was SO MUCH content to go through.

Honorable mention - Harley/Ivy, Faith/Buffy, Shepard/Liara, Bumbleby, Weiss/Ilia, and I know I'm missing more

[shadowfiredemonwolf]

the claim that saying korrasami or bumbleby were forced is homophobic makes a joke of real homophobia

I often feel korrasami and bb stans make a joke of real homophobia whenthey try to say merely a statement that their ships were forced and shouldnt have happened in favor of het ships that had actual buildup to getting together for a while ( and korrasami being incompatible with eachother) 

same sex ships arent exempt from criticism

saying a same sex ship is forced or has/had no evidence / buildup or saying that this thing they are trying to claim is evidence of romantic love isnt  and they are just wearing shipping goggles to see evidence where there is none isnt homophobic it makes a joke of real homophobia to abuse it in a shipping war or to try and defend your ship from criticism by claiming that the person criticizing it is just doing it because its a same sex ship

its not  shipping the het ship over the same sex ship in a shipping war  its not saying a same sex ship was forced and  thrown in without buildup/ makes no sense/ last minute retcon /

quit using homophobia accusation for internet arguments

quit acting like caring about lgbt community means that if there is a canon same sex ship you have to support it  ( korrasami was a last minute retcon that broke the narrative and the narrative up to the lok b4 finale last 2 minutes  ( including part of the finale)  pointed to the show ending with korra single but possibly a hint ot makorra getting back together 

( it doesnt matter that korrasami was the only piece of lgbt rep in show fact is it was forced last minute retcon thrown in at the last minute ( and many people part of the lgbt community criticized it it being gay doesnt mean any criticism is wiped away)  it doesnt matter if there there arent many examples of canon same sex ship if people see it as forced ship

undoubtedly if asami was a guy most people wouldnt ship korrasami

I could turn the you only ship that ship/ only criticize my ship based on genders involve on them saying that if blacksun was a w/w ship and bumbleby was a het ship they would go queerbaiting  and there was nothing that pointed to romantic bb  ( bb shippers wear shipping goggles to take the most minor moments as romantic bending over backwards ignoring context or looking at other ships moments and to look over blake and yang moments to try to find any possible similarity 

like if in a ship tease moment for blacksun he winked  they will claim that yang winking at blake in a scene  is a romantic moment  or renora got a romantic scene on a plane they will claim that means bb having a moment on plane is romantic and that if you saw the renora moment as romantic you have to see the bb moment ts romantic when the moments were different 

not to mention ignoring context like in v3 sun saw blake crying about  yang losing an arm seeing how blake felt guilty over  what happened to yang and blaming herself which is why she ran and why in his conversation to blake at end of v4 about not needing a reason to risk his life  he brought yang up 

and bb shippers tried to turn the moment into “sun realizing blakes feelings for yang” when there was nothing about that scene that would cause him to think blake had feelings for yang

or claiming adam saying he will destroy everything she loves confirms blake  having romantic feelings for yang when adam said EVERYTHING she loves including her family he tried to kill ghira and kali because of this promise

he only attacked yang because she was nearby ( yang called for blake both of them turned to yangs voice and adam saw blakes face  ( blake would have had the same reaction if it was weiss) and so he chose starting with her

not to mention the whole well adam is her ex so yang getting hurt by himis evidence ( that is reaching and flimsy)

   ) 

equality means that you shouldnt ship the same sex ship just because its a same sex ship 

you shouldnt complain about them teasing a het ship because there are a good number of possible same sex ships involved you can go I wish they teased the  same sex ship instead ) 

 ( I have seen people call blacksun forced

equality means that same sex ships are just as open to criticism  as het ships if its okay to call a het ship forced without getting called a bigot its okay to say the same thing about a same sex ship. same sex ships are not magically immune to being badly written or forced

and I have seen people go there are tons of shows where het ships becomes canon in response to people saying bumbleby was a forced ship ( which is insulting for it implies the only reason they shipped blacksun over bb was because it was a het ship which often times comes off as projection given how I have seen people complain about blacksun being teased going there are tons of same sex ships  that they could do ( which shows them to be the ones shipping something based on genders involved)

it doesnt matter that there are tons of shows where the het ships become canon the reason why they shipped blacksun for example was because of the relationship development blacksun got teased since v1 ( during which bb got nothing that hinted at romantic relationship you have to wear shipping goggles to see anything like taking the scene where blake was crying while yang was unconscious while sun saw and try to claim it was meant to be a sign of romantic relationship claiming it was somehow meant to show sun  that blake had romantic feelings for her when there was nothing about that scene that pointed to them having romantic feelings for yang.

that scene showcased blake felt guilty/terrible about yang losing an arm and that was purpose of sun seeing it ( nothing about bb was hinted at as romantic ( you have to take any positive interaction to the most minor detail and twist and stretch it including scenes where yang wasnt there like rwbytalks )

the fact that there isnt many examples of lgbt reps or canon same sex ships is irrelevant it shows that anyone who try to argue this as being the type of person they accused others of being of only shipping something based on genders involved   shown by how they go there are tons of shows where the het ships become canon which is irrelevant lacking same sex ships that are canon isnt a shield from criticism or make it so bad writing or the ship being forced is allowed to be ignored

bad writing is bad writing

they have called blacksun forced just for being a het ship  when it wasnt forced

( blacksun had natural growth and development since v1 ( which began with sun being interested in blake  sun was interested in blake as a person  ( I have seen peolpe try to go but blake told him all that info but not her team who she spent more time with sun was a faunus it would be easier to tell him this stuff without fear of discrimination  ) 

there are plenty of lgbt people who criticize  korrasami and bb and oppose those ships for being forced ( korrasami just being thrown in at the last 2 minutes breaking the narrative which pointed to korra single but makorra eventually getting back together the narrative push for makorra is included in the season finale of b4 like the camera focusing on mako when they said they couldnt find her  (  so they just threw in korrasami in at the last two minutes of finale  with korra being ooc  which is required for korrasami are incompatible   )

 I have seen people try to go but korrasami is the only same sex ship  in legend of korra  you dont care about the lgbt community if you dont support it when that is irrelevant to the fact that it shouldnt have happened because it was forced/bad writing causes korra to be ooc

which is more important then filling a quota by having a same sex ship   saying we should support something because of a quota  is reducing everything to the genders involved  ( and I have seen people who try to go there are plenty of shows where the het ship become canon  who say shit like that which makes that statement come off as projecting they are the ones shipping something based on genders involved  and try to defend their ship by  citing the genders involved or there arent that many same sex ships  when that is irrelevant it doesnt matter that korrasami was the only same sex ship in lok it doesnt matter that there arent many canonical same sex ships

 not only are they not exempt from criticism or people disliking it ( just like  het ships arent )  bad writing is bad writing  its more important to go with the beats of story and what makes sense with the characters and what was built up then  making korrasami or bb canon  two popularsame sex ships ( populariy doesnt mean there is actual evidence there is such a thing as an appeal to popularity fallacy a same sex ship being popular doesnt mean there is actual evidence or the writers have to make it canon

. caring about the lgbt community doesnt mean you have to support a specific canon same sex ship ,  it doesnt mean that any time where there is a ship war between a het ship and a same sex ship you support the same sex ship orif asame sex ship becomes canon you support it  because people should ship things based on how they like the characters interacting  the chemistry and hints in the show etc  

bad writing is bad writing

and if the het ship had buildup and development while same sex ship didnt the het ship should be canon ( to be frank people often abuse the term queerbaiting to mean my same sex ship didnt become canon and they saw evidence where there is none

there is no doubt there are plenty of times where in a ship war between a het ship and a same sex ship where the het ship was teased /canon they tried to claim it was forced when it really wasnt

I often see the whole you would ship it if it was a m/f pairing 

that could easily be turned around on them ( especially since they are the ones who often cited the genders involved in the ship or lgbt rep as defense on  why their ship deserves to be canon

going there arent many shows where the same sex ship becomes canon

it makes any accusations of the genders involved affecting someones judgement to come off as projection 

korrasami were barely friends they barely interacted ( including the timeskip between b3 and b4 korra sent asami one letter to vent  )

asami taking care of korra at end of b3 isnt evidence of a special bond asami just being her sweet self  and trying to help korra when korra didnt request it ( korra only smiled during that state with air babies , her dad , and bolin 

korrasami often stands on headcanons like claiming korra chose asami )

the only thing that hinted at korrasami was in the last 2 minutes ( bryke admitted they only thought asked the execs if they could do it when the finale was being made

the narrative pointed to a ending with korra single but hints to makorra  getting back together for they overcame the mutual issues that led to the b2 breakup ( neither of them were ready for a relationship with anyone  at the time ) 

heck even in the finale when jinora said they couldnt find her the camera focused on makos expression 

 mako was the one who went with korra to  confront zaheer and supported korra the way she needed to be the way the others couldnt

 mako made a speech about korra the person how he admires her etc while tenzin helped korra by bringing up korra the person and how she grew which asami failed to do by going youre the avatar showing that she doesnt understand what korra needs  korra was always focused on korra as the avatar

there is no doubt that if mako and asamis genders were involved  no one would ship korrasami or at least only a few while there would be alot more complaints about the ending

equality means  if a same sex ship is forced it gets criticized if you spend years giving a het ship teasing mutual attraction and development while they bonded over the persons needs and interests etc ( 

and then suddenly change direction after the guy steps off the show for a bit to make room ( say the teasing arguably began in v7 though it can be said  it began in v6 finale though there wasnt anything inherently romantic about those scenes  it can be said they intended it to be either way the sudden hard push to bb in v7 is shocking before then there wasnt anything that showed an attraction to eachother and is forced ( it wasnt subtle it was nonexistent  everything you love starting with her isnt a statement that blake had  romantic love for yang adam declared he will destroy everything she loves including friends and family  yang cried out for blake he noticed blakes expression and since yang was nearby he said starting with her. )  it gets criticized

a last minute retcon korrasami is bad

imagine if say the genders involved were switched

where a female main character only showed an interest in a female character before and while they did have a breakup the breakup was done in such a way that it was open ended to them getting back together once they overcame the mtuual flaws they just werent ready for a relationship  at that time neither of them would have worked with anyone and after overcoming the mutual flaws and teasing them all season including in series finale  they suddenly in last two minutes put the female character was put in with a guy who she barely interacted with ( and was ooc in the last two minutes

or if say after years of teasing mutual attraction and development for a same sex ship they suddenly began to hard push one of the female characters with a man season after the female left temporarily while equating them to a couple who were treated as canon since the start

(speaking of v6 moments I have seen people try to go if you saw renora moment on plane as ship tease you should see the blake and yang moment on plane as ship tease when no the claim implies the only thing different between those two scenes are the genders involved ( and its annoying when they try to take any other ships moment to try to build support for bb ( its like saying that since (      example )  renora hugged  it means bb hugging is evidence ignoring the framing and context like renora getting a camera zoom and music swell ) 

the set up for blake and yang plane scene is different from renora one ( them both  being plane scenes doesnt mean they should be viewed the same

 ( sun winking at blake in his introduction and yang  winking at blake in burning the candle doesnt mean they are the same  the framing and context is different which is why sun in his introduction scene was viewed as blacksun ship tease 

the fact that both scenes involve winks doesnt mean that since we saw the sun introductio scene as ship tease  we have to view the burning the candle scene as ship tease

it often feels like bb shippers try to steal ship tease moments from other ships to use as support for their ship and try to find any blake and yang scene with some similarity  like if people bring up a scene where sun winked at blake they will try to act like the burning the candle scene where yang winks at blake is romantic 

or with the renora plane scene claiming that blake and yang having a plane scene needs to be viewed as romantic if you saw the renora plane scene as romantic when the way the characters acted is different  not to mention the set up  etc

like renora plane scene being a private affair focused on those two with the boop song playing a song about noras love for ren

eight-of-pentacles . tumblr . com/post/651259837931569152/why-do-you-say-yang-winking-at-blake-in-burning

Because it’s about framing and context.

Sun’s wink is accompanied by a slow-mo pan of his expression, followed by the camera focusing on Blake’s slack-jawed attention, along with a literal choir singing in the background while she stares at him. This is his introduction— to Blake, but more importantly, to the audience. This is the first moment we properly meet him, and it’s through this very particular gaze.

Yang’s wink is precipitated by her trying to convince Blake to come to the dance for her own mental and physical well-being. There’s no attention given to any other motivation on Yang’s part during the exchange, or what Blake’s reaction was following.

One of these has clear romantic intent. The other does not. If I were to present these two scenes to a random bystander and remove the names from the samples, and if I asked them to tell me which scene they thought was meant to be a romantic one, my guess is that they would go with the Sun and Blake scene. Because again, it’s about the framing of the scene, and the context of the situation the characters are in.

I say that Yang’s wink is dubious evidence at best, because I acknowledge that it can technically be read as romantic— but a.) it’s extremely covert, and only noticeable if you’re looking at it to find romantic evidence in the first place, and b.) I’m highly doubtful that was the writers’ intent in the first place.

the fact  that there are only a few same sex ships that are canon doesnt make it homophobic to be against a specific same sex ship being canon or to say its forced and shouldnt happen it doesnt mean you dont care about lgbt community or rep ( 

writing is more important  than that

korra and asami were barely friends they barely interacted  in b4 while the narrative pointed to makorra getting back together ( given they overcame the mutual flaws that led to them breaking up mako getting a speech about what korra meant to him while asami didnt really do anything  asami just went youre the avatar ( and failed to help her or understand her korrasami requires someone to wear shipping goggles to see evidence where there is none twisting the most minor of moments or claiming that we would see it if it was a male/female pairing  like what people claimed for  the scene at the end of b3  where asami being her sweet self    helping korra ) when no we really wouldnt and very few people would ship it  

not to mention creating headcanons to use to get their ship to stand 

like the headcanon that korra  sent asami a bunch of letters ( when there was only one 

or claiming that korra chose asami to help her in b3 when nothing pointed to that  korra only smiled due to the air babies and her father she didnt smile due to anything asami did ( and  korra and asami personalities are incompatible with each other like thier conflict style ( korra would need someone who would be willing to argue  with her like mako does ( arguing isnt inherently unhealthy ( the problem in b2 was how they handled conflict they weren't ready for a relationship with anyone at that time )

with bb ( the teasing arguably began in v7 ( for nothing in v6 was inherently romantic   people try to argue that if you say renora plane scene was romantic then you would have seen bb plane scene as romantic if it was a m/f pairing when that just isnt true the renora and bb plane scenes are different in how the characters act and the surrounding ( renora doing the lay head on shoulders scene a private scene focused on them  as boop song played while yang noticed blake felt upset and held her hand to comfort and ruby also proceeded to comfort blake etc as the following scenes happen )

it reminded me of people trying to claim that if you say blacksun introduction was ship tease you have to say burning the candle scene was romantic because yang winked at blake ( besides the fact she has winked at people before like ruby  and the white fang grunt ) when the framing and context are different sun introduction got the slowmotion run and angelic choir 

its annoying when people try to take other ships moments  to use to try to put up their ship bb doesnt stand on its own 

another example is creating headcanons =and seeing evidence where there was none/ finding meaning in scenes which comes off as reaching

like people who try to claim the scene where sun saw yang with a arm lost and blake crying was meant to show sun realizing blakes feelings for yang  that there was no other reason  to show that scene like that   because sun already knew she was injured

 there was nothing about that scene that would make him think blake had feelings for yang  what sun saw would cause blake to understand how blake felt guilty and this scene was followed up when he brought up how yang wouldnt hesitate to help blake after he got injured  he brought yang up because of blakes words regarding the people close to her getting injured

it wasnt to make sun realize blakes feelings for there is nothing to make someone think blake had feelings for yang in that scene or in that episode adam going I will destroy everything you love ( then after yang yelled for blake adam saw blakes expression )

 starting with her isnt the show stating blake as in love with yang   yang is her friend that would fall in everything you love territory ( he tried to kill her parents) and blake didnt give any special emphasis to yang when bringnig up her missing her team

lgbt representation isnt a valid defense for bb or korrasami being canon 

for writing is more important

it goes to show that you wouldnt ship that ship if it was a m/f ship 

if say the only option for lgbt rep is throwing a ship in at the last minute at the cost of breaking the narrative ( korrasami ) its better to just leave the show as having no lgbt rep  and saving lgbt rep for extra materials if you were genuinely concerned about not including lgbt rep and not just wanting a publicity stunt due to lok not getting enough

or with bb instead of throwing away the years of teasing mutual attraction and development just keep blacksun and pair yang up with a girl who doesnt have anyone she was being teased with for years ( like weiss)

( to be frank it gets annoying when I see people who called blacksun forced get mad at people who say bb is forced and try to claim homophobia or  that we wouldnt say that if it was a m/f ship ( implying our reasoning is due to the genders involved which comes off as projecting given how many times I have seen people claim blacksun was forced or complaining that they teased blacksun when there were plenty of possible same sex ships options ( while claiming that blacksun is being forced on them )  which showcases they are the ones who were calling ship(s) forced because of the genders involved they were the ones whose views on the ship would change if one of the genders of the characters were switched ( blacksun was never forced on anyone  it had natural teasing mutual attraction and development where sun took part in blakes arc ( I have seen bb shippers constantly try to undermine blacksun to put bb in favor like rwbytalks posts or people trying to smear sun as a creepy stalker when he went after her out of concern and desire to help or claiming that sun only was interested in blake because she was faunus or that is only how sun viewed her 

( not to mention claiming it didnt make sense for blake to come clean with sun when she didnt for the group ignoring the fact that it would be easier to come clean with  another faunus  since it would be safer  an she was already running from group

the framing and contexts are important and the framing and context of v1 blacksun introduction and burnign the candle are different

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Because it’s about framing and context.

Sun’s wink is accompanied by a slow-mo pan of his expression, followed by the camera focusing on Blake’s slack-jawed attention, along with a literal choir singing in the background while she stares at him. This is his introduction— to Blake, but more importantly, to the audience. This is the first moment we properly meet him, and it’s through this very particular gaze.

Yang’s wink is precipitated by her trying to convince Blake to come to the dance for her own mental and physical well-being. There’s no attention given to any other motivation on Yang’s part during the exchange, or what Blake’s reaction was following.

One of these has clear romantic intent. The other does not. If I were to present these two scenes to a random bystander and remove the names from the samples, and if I asked them to tell me which scene they thought was meant to be a romantic one, my guess is that they would go with the Sun and Blake scene. Because again, it’s about the framing of the scene, and the context of the situation the characters are in.

I say that Yang’s wink is dubious evidence at best, because I acknowledge that it can technically be read as romantic— but a.) it’s extremely covert, and only noticeable if you’re looking at it to find romantic evidence in the first place, and b.) I’m highly doubtful that was the writers’ intent in the first place.

caring about the lgbt community doesnt mean you support every single same sex ship that becomes canon regardless of writing

it doesnt mean if there was a ship war between a same sex ship and a het ship you support the same sex ship ( even if there was nothing for the same sex ship that pointed to a romance) and lets say in a genuine situation where the same sex ship and het ship both have the chance of being canon the characters have shown an interest in each other caring about the lgbt community doesnt mean you ship the same sex ship

 it makes a joke to determine whether you care about the lgbt community based on shipping ( especially given how intense ship wars can be when its between 2 het ships

[shortkingvi]

Korrasami and Bumbleby meet. who gets along? who can't stand each other? who gets super competitive?

this ask was crafted for me by the gods

alright so my first instinct is to be like korra and yang would get along and go cause chaos together but like,,,,,,,, i feel like it would be opposite?

i think there is much 2 be said about blake and korra, two ppl brought up in some sort of group that inevitably causes problems for them, at least re: korra and the white lotus (and then the red lotus trying to kill her) and blake w the white fang,,,,,,,, both of them running away from the people they care about when faced with some big injury/event and having to go on a journey of self discovery to become who they are now,,,,,,,,, i feel like they’d have a lot of really great conversations with each other that would surprise them both

and then asami and yang would maybe butt heads at first because yang is super impulsive sometimes and asami is really meticulous and precise,,,,,,, but they’d def find common ground in a love of tech (specifically talking abt yang’s arm) and they’d be able to start opening up from there

and when they open up? then you get two motherless children who have had to grow up quickly and be the support system for their team in a lot of ways,,,,,,,,, and hoo boy the convos they’d have about when they were left by their respective other (which, by the way, happens for both of them in s3,,,,, what the fuck),,,,,,, and i think they’d be v good for each other

yang and korra also have a lifting competition btw,,,,,,, just because they’d be like that,,,,, i know it in my heart

[sniperct]

What typically draws you to a ship (canon or otherwise)?

Are there ships you love but don't feel you want to/can write for them?

A good dynamic.

Sometimes this is enemies to lovers, sometimes it’s drift compatible (like korrasami, bumbleby, grey pryde, etc. This is probably my most common)

Sometimes they’re just hot together, sometimes they bring something that the other is missing. Sometimes they’re pure chaos together and that’s FUN. Sometimes they’re both really fucked up but in that way where they can help each other. Sometimes the relationship itself is just fucked up but is still --interesting-- like I’m pretty sure everyone has ships they wouldn’t talk about in polite company lol

Oddly enough Bumbleby is a ship I love, it’s literally top 5, but I’ve not written very much of it nor have been super compelled to at all recently. I think in part I’m super satisfied with how it’s progressing on the show. I also love Jeanne/Cereza from bayonetta but have no particular desire to write them

For like, noncanon ships, most RWBY ships are in the don’t feel compelled to write actually lol and there are a number of crossover characters i’d ship with elsa in a heartbeat but don’t yet have a muse to write

Sometimes there’s a ship where I love but I don’t think I have one or both of their voices. They’re usually in the ‘oh yeah I love them when I see them’ category. But like Harley/Ivy would be one of them. Harley is easy, Ivy is harder to write.

There are some ships I really REALLY want to write but just haven’t gotten around to (mercymaker is a big on here). And maybe I never will, but I’ll slowly poke away at a few WIPS if I can. I really want to write Mor from ACOTAR with a lady but that’s also one that’s kind of fallen by the wayside.

[illusory-torrent]

I admire your love and devotion to blacksun. It's always been a favorite of mine but it sucks that were basically witnessing it gradually sink over the last two volumes. I want to remain hopeful that Vacuo will revive things but I doubt it.

haha, you might hate me for this, but i really don’t want blacksun to happen anymore. i don’t want sun to come back (even though i know he will, realistically-speaking). 

i’m far too uncomfortable with both rwby’s writing and writers now to want blacksun to happen. just the other day (?), miles luna jokingly stated that tifa lockhart from ffvii dressed like a prostitute. i’m sorry, but knowing that and knowing some of his many, many other comments... i don’t feel comfortable with blacksun being canon. 

i’d rather have bumbleby happen at this point. blake has been flip-flopping too much between love interests in my eyes. i don’t want a love triangle dilemma in vacuo. i just want blake to get with yang and for it to be over with. just because something is canon doesn’t mean it’s good *cough* korrasami from lok *cough cough* reylo from sw.

i hope that makes sense. with every passing volume, i see more characters get ruined. like neo, a very obvious fan-favorite, getting punched by oscar this volume (even though there is no way in hell he should’ve been able to punch her with the way he went about it). it turned out that it was some sort of animation error. come on now, again? this happened in volume 4 with the slaps between blake and sun, and it’s happened again. 

as much as i’d like rwby to get better, i don’t have hope that it will. so i don’t want blacksun to happen if it’s gonna suck writing-wise. at least now, blacksun is spared all the ship hate from wasps and all the vitrol from rwby haters. 

besides, a ship doesn’t need canon to stay alive. look at zutara from atla or klance from voltron or ichiruki from bleach; they’re good ships that never happened and they got sunk but they’re still hella popular. shippers keep the ship alive, canon just helps. i’m just gonna keep commissioning blacksun art and focusing on bringing blacksun goods to the community. fuck everything else LOL.

[yourfriendlele]

Also, I’m not assuming you’re thinking this but, it could always just be that they don’t like the relationship. That’s not something that’s strictly LGBT and it would be kinda childish to imply it don’t ya think. Just keep that in mind. After all, the last thing you want to do is antagonise the very people you’re trying to convince that you’re in the right. That never sits well. Heck, looks where the world’s at now (black chick right here). Just looking out for my fellow human. Happy travels! ;)

I’m sorry, but it seems to me that you’re the one assuming... idk where in the comic it implies that i think it’s not okay to like not like a wlw ship... or that everyone who doesn’t like them is straight....

My whole point was that i’ve listened to this kind of argument again and again. Yes listened to it. Believed them at first. But the more i thought about them the less convincing they sounded... and the more i felt like they were rooted on heteronormativity and internalized homophobia... both things that also affect gay/bi people...me included...

All the ships i illustrated have flaws...writing flaws that i can name... korrasami’s interactions were too limited, and if it weren’t for the way the creators treated the ship after the show ending (hiring and promoting a bi asian artist to draw the comics + using the characters to celebrate pride on nickelodeon’s social media) i would also have taken it for queerbait.

Deanoru was first introduced in the 2000s and was also too limited bc of that. It took 15 years for them too kiss in the comic and the writers never use the word “lesbian”. Plus the tv adaptation was pathetic...

Harlivy obviously started out in the 90′s as fanservice for straight men specifically and bc of that the characters are often overly sexualized and barely have an actual romantic arc going on.

And Bumbleby, just like the rest of rwby, suffers from weak dialogue and bad pacing. “She’s not protecting me and i’m not protecting her, we’re protecting each other” is in fact repetitive and i didn’t like it.

I just don’t think “making them gay is forced, fanservice, pandering and ruins the entire show” is convincig criticism”... bc again... it sounds like it’s rooted on heteronormativity and homophobia to me... None of the characters were “confirmed straight”... so why can’t they be bi/gay? Why would that need some type of logical step by step or explanation when that doesn’t happen irl?? 

So this is the last ask i’m responding okay?

[hawkeyedflame]

Blacklist!

Hey guys! I just want to throw out a friendly reminder that you can blacklist things on Tumblr that you don’t want to see. Tumblr has a native function for it, but the Xkit extension has an even better one that can scan both the body of the post and the tags, even URLs, and has a setting that you can toggle to hide all traces of the post being blocked rather than simply telling you the post is blocked. It’s quite powerful, and I use it liberally.

So with that being said, I wanted to do a rundown of the content of my blog in case people want to blacklist certain things. I tag almost every categorize-able post on my blog, and I am very diligent about tagging content that others may wish to blacklist. If you send me messages because you saw something you did not want to see, and it is something I have tagged, I will not be apologetic about it. By making sure that I index my content in a way that allows others to curate to their liking, I am doing more than is required of me in running this blog. I will do no more than I currently do to ensure comfort for the people who visit my blog; the rest is on you to either blacklist or unfollow me. Do not expect a friendly reply if you send me a rude message about any of these things. I will respond according to how I am addressed. I am a person behind these posts, and I am not a one-dimensional reflection of whatever content you saw that you didn’t like.

[Readmore for the actual list because this bitch about to get LONG]

Without further ado, my most-used and/or most controversial tags:

#the hawk speaks is my tag for original, personal text posts

#politics is for politics, obviously

#discourse is a catch-all for controversial subjects

#gun control is specifically for arguments relating to the second amendment of the united states

#feminism for posts relating to modern feminism; often cross-tagged with discourse and/or politics

#mra for posts about men’s rights

#circumcision for posts specifically pertaining to male circumcision

#long post is for posts that are just too damn long; it’s a little arbitrary what i end up deciding is long but i try to be reasonable about it

#negative for things that are unhappy/depressing

#reblog bait for things designed to fish for notes (”reblog this and put X in the tags”)

#got damn i laughed for posts that i found exceptionally hilarious

#drunk tag for when i’m being a goddamn fool

#mental health / #mental illness

#adhd

#nature

#art

#birb / #chickens

#video

#audio

#nsfw

As for fandoms/ships, I am exhaustive in tagging every fandom post with the source content and all ships with the ship name; as a result this list cannot possibly be all-inclusive but is instead a shortlist of the ones I reblog most frequently:

#rwby

#fmab / #fma manga fullmetal alchemist

#su steven universe

#atla / #lok avatar / legend of korra

#adventure time

#lwa little witch academia

#nier: automata / #nier: gestalt

#frozen disney’s frozen and frozen 2

#bdo black desert online

#dark souls / #bloodborne

#lotr lord of the rings

#bnha boku no hero academia (my hero academia)

#disney disney movies that aren’t frozen, which has its own tag

#castlevania

#carciphona

#the witcher netflix

#demon slayer

#white rose ruby rose/weiss schnee from rwby

#bumbleby blake belladonna/yang xiao long from rwby

#freezerburn weiss schnee/yang xiao long from rwby

#qrowin qrow branwen/winter schnee from rwby

#royai roy mustang/riza hawkeye from fullmetal alchemist

#rosepearl rose quartz/pearl from steven universe

#korrasami korra/asami from legend of korra

#bubbline princess bubblegum/marceline from adventure time

#diakko diana/akko from little witch academia

#trash ship ursula/akko from little witch academia

#2B9S 2B/9S from nier: automata

#A2B and #2BA2 A2/2B from nier: automata. i don’t know why i have two tags for this, sorry.

#elsanna elsa/anna from frozen

#todomomo todoroki/momo from boku no hero academia

#blackvel veloce/blackbird from carciphona

Obviously there are plenty of other fandoms/ships I reblog, but that should cover the vast majority of fandom content.

As a final note, this post is not here to invite hate for any of the content I post, especially my ships. I am aware of every single criticism one could think to voice in my inbox. This post is here as a guide for people who want to follow me but don’t want to see certain types of posts. So don’t waste your time trying to berate me over age gaps or incest or abuse in my ships. I do not care. I’ve done my due diligence in tagging my content appropriately; the responsibility therefore lies with you if you see content you don’t want to see. If asked, I am open to tagging some content warnings if I find the request reasonable, but I maintain my right to refuse those requests if I don’t find them agreeable.

Thanks for following me, and I hope this post is helpful for anyone who may have been interested in blacklisting some of my content.

[bloodraven55]

Do you have some korrasami headcanons? Or bumbleby ones? Or catradora ones? THE HOLY TRINITY

THE HOLY TRINITY OF ANIMATED GAY 🙏

Oof, okay. So I guess I have a couple for Korrasami.

I really like the idea of them training together. Like, their fighting styles are very different obviously since Korra can bend and Asami can’t but also they’re both based on martial arts so I feel like they could learn a lot from each other. To be honest, I don’t really know since the only type of fighting I have any expertise in is fencing because I did it for two years but I just want them to spar, okay? 😄

And the other one that comes to mind is that since as the Avatar and the CEO of Future Industries they’re literally the world’s biggest power couple I love the idea of them doing more casual coupley things together too. Like, they probably have a scheduled date night every week where they go out to dinner (also because I kind of feel like they’re both disasters when it comes to cooking), and sometimes they go and see new movers that come out, and it’s all just very down to earth and normal and a huge contrast to the chaos of saving the world and running a giant company.

I’m pretty sure I’ve already said several Bumbleby ones on this blog but, let’s be real, I am always happy to talk more about the Bees so here’s some more. Yang absolutely checked out a whole bunch of the books Blake had when they were at Beacon, because she wanted to get to know the things that Blake liked to give them more stuff to talk about.

And also because she finds it incredibly endearing how much Blake loves reading. You can pry Yang sitting there with the softest, most lovestruck smile as she listens to Blake gush about all the novels she’s read from my cold dead hands.

I also really like the idea of Blake just slowly stealing various t-shirts and hoodies and stuff from Yang because they’re warm and comfortable and they smell like her. The image of Blake snuggled up in a yellow hoodie that’s far too big for her is just so cute to me. And Yang probably tries to steal some of Blake’s clothes in return but she gives up because they’re all too small for her 😂

As for Catradora, to be totally honest with where their relationship is in the show at the moment my biggest headcanon is just them actually getting to be happy after kicking Hordak and Shadow Weaver’s asses together. But that’s just my wishful thinking (for now anyway) 😅

All of my random little headcanons about them are also really angsty because canon for them is just pain, so I’m sorry for that lmao. But mostly I just imagine it being difficult for both of them to adjust to the other not being there anymore. Like, they were each such a constant presence in the other’s life for so long that I can see Adora still half-expecting Catra to be curled up at the foot of her bed when she wakes up sometimes, or Catra turning round to tell Adora about the latest mess that Kyle made, and then they just remember.

And given we now know that Adora knows Catra’s favourite number, I can’t help wondering what other little details about each other they still remember too. That’s not really a head canon but it just gives me so many feelings because it shows how well they know each other even with everything that’s happened between them and that hurts a lot.

Anyway, that got sort of very angsty at the end there but thank you very much for the ask!

[lacependragon]

Look, at the end of the day, you might not ship Bumbleby, you might not care about a ship becoming canon, you might not care about the implications of the interactions.

But denying what has gone down here is not something easily done. Barb confirmed it. Arryn confirmed. Multiple people on Twitter confirmed it this week and the last. Barb gave us the insight to know this has been endgame from day one.

Bumbleby has not always been a ship of mine. But it is a powerful ship, and one that won me back over, despite my own personal misgivings in the past. It is a ship I will proudly stand by and a ship I am floored to see become canon.

RWBY is one of the biggest, most popular internet shows out there. And for them to do this with Bumbleby? That's... that's almost on par with what Legend of Korra did with Korrasami.

And, just as I did the day the finale aired in Korra, I see the same arguments now. "They didn't kiss/say anything, therefore it isn't canon". I see other shippers arguing. I see antis arguing. I see people jumping through hoops and making leaps and bounds to deny what has happened here today.

But there is no denying it. Bumbleby is canon, and regardless of your personal feelings toward the fndm, the characters, the ship, whatever. This is an important moment in RWBY history. And it is a god damn important moment in our fndm, in our culture, and in our knowledge of anime and cartoons.

Miles, Kerry, Gray, and Monty, bless his soul, wherever he is, gave us something that we didn't think could be canon. That we didn't think was possible to see in modern animation.

And that is worth celebrating.

We saw Blake, abused, beat down, gaslit, and destroyed, stand up and stand against her abuser with a woman she thought she'd lost forever. We saw her find the ability to forgive, to love again, and to face her fears. We saw Yang, torn apart by Adam and shaking, be comforted by the person she thought she'd never have the same relationship with again, and see what they could be.

We saw Adam, a monster, realize what they were to each other.

We saw the revelation. We saw the start. And now? We get to see everything else. Maybe they're not together right now, maybe it'll take all of V7 for them to face this new knowledge, especially with how traumatized Blake and Yang are, right now.

But we know they know how they feel. We know they must face it. We know they love each other.

And we know that CRWBY stands behind Bumbleby canon 100%. And I think that that, regardless of anything else, is important. That that, even if they take three more volumes to sort it out, to kiss, to say "I love you", is so, so fantastic.

They know how they feel. They know how the other feels. And WE know. Beyond a SHADOW of a doubt we KNOW.

What we're seeing here today is only the beginning of something beautiful. A piece of RWBY that will change so much both in the show and outside it. And I think that's so, so important to remember.

This is not queer baiting. This is not an accident. This is not something to misinterpret.

They are canon. Just like Arkos was. Just like Renora is. Just like Tai loved Summer and Raven, Yang and Blake love each other.

So thank you, Miles, Kerry, CRWBY. Thank you Monty. For giving us something I never thought I'd see in a mainstream show way back when this all started. Something I still doubted even up until last week's episode.

Thank you.