#third wave feminism

[imdowndownbutdefinetlynotout]

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KATHLEEN HANNA | BIKINI KILL | ‘90s

[keytonesworld]

Hot take.

I think some Christians are opposed to feminism as a whole because a completely wrong precedent has been set with third wave feminism. So let me just say.

Man hating is not feminist. Abortion is not feminist. Sex work is not feminist. Using each other for sexual gratification without consequence is not feminist. Putting work above everything, including God, your family life or health, is not feminist. (That goes for men too, actually.) No matter what they say. All of this hurts both men and women, of course, but especially women.

Feminism at its core was to protect women and give them rights. Feminism fought for an equal vote, a right to be able to sustain ourselves in a society in which a woman's survival was only guaranteed if she was married, many times being forced and unwanted and loveless. Feminism fought for women in abusive marriages and relationships. Feminism fought for a right to be seen as a human created in the image of God with desire and aspirations and a worth and story written by God and not a sexual slave/baby making machine with no life of her own and one set path in life. A lot of women who are anti-feminist as a whole forget that we are where we are and we can say what we want to say about these topics because of the women who were beaten and women who stood up to the tyranny that unbiblically and immorally put us down.

I will wear the feminist badge still, but let it be no mistake that it is not because I support this third wave of feminism, the one that is ironically anti-feminist, but because God brings women to many different places, places like the amazing stay at home mom and wife who serves her home and husband beautifully, and the woman who wants a career or wants to own her own business and loves and follows God in his plan for her life. In my humble opinion, we shouldn't think that feminism was a mistake at its core, because it most certainly wasn't, and I believe that it still isn't, only what it's become.

But that's just me.

A suffragette in 1917. (One of my favorite pictures.)

[peggy-sue-reads-a-book]

Anything you can do, I can do bleeding.

Resting while I am on my period does not make me less competent.

[gaaaaaaaayypr]

Third wave feminism is destroying America, children, women, men, and western civilization.

But let's keep doing it...

Trump 2024!!!

[theangryfeministwriter]

special thanks to that ballerina farms article because in an effort to understand her I’m reading the Feminine Mystique

[djuvlipen]

truly the worst wave of feminism. they took everything away from me

[missandrisky]

What branch of feminism extends to ALL FEMALES regardless of the appropriateness of their response to patriarchal trauma? Like what is beyond ‘radical’ feminism and is actually ALL inclusive. Please point me in that direction so I may interact less with the exclusionary (basically all other) feminist branches.

[culturevulturette]

Feminists have never been particularly interested in the actual problems of actual oppressed women. Fantasies of oppression starring themselves is job one.

[asshole-rebel-psycho]

Feminist activists: " Women for killing babies!"

Make it make sense.

[dynamoe]

working out a character design for Billy's crush, the mean clerk from the video store in TOMORROW'S JUST ANOTHER DAY

Drawing any human character next to Billy is hazardous because you can't NOT draw attention to how weird his proportions are. (I even made his head smaller than normal and he still looks like an alien)

That grrrl's got Kim Gordon's shirt from the Sonic Youth video for Bull in the Heather.

I said I wouldn't draw her because I'd rather the reader make up what she looks like in their mind, but... it's been a year, let's give her a face.

First outfit looks too Ruth Bader Ginsburg (she's joins the court in '93 but wasn't famous as "Notorious RGB" yet), maybe if it wasn't black velvet I could use the lace. Other ones are... whatever. The last one is how I dressed in high school (and college, and ten years after and now... shit.) but I'm trying really hard not to make the grrrl into a self-insert or a Mary Sue.

I need to make sure she belongs in their world. Kind of a dick, kind of a failure (in so much you can fail at 18). Representin' that Garafaloid '90s deadpan snark-girl character that was everywhere in the decade. Your Daria. Your Enid Coleslaw. Very hip, crap pop-culture obsessed but also "over it."

The "kinderwhore" (yeah, that's what the style was/is called) style is associated most with Courtney Love (p'too), but you see it in other women fronting rock bands like Kat Bjelland (Babes in Toyland) and Kim Shattuck (The Muffs).

↑ Kim Shattuck and Kat Bjelland (right): Style Icons

The signature look: a "little girl" type of dress (usually thrifted, often an actual child's dress) in velvet with a lace collar and cuffs or a girly floral worn extremely short over ripped tights and big-ass combat boots. Platforms not heels. No make-up or garish "crazy" make up -- blurred red lipstick, smudgy eyes, "bitch" written on your face or your arm with a sharpie.

This is meant to be threatening not sexy. Associate "weak" little girl things (floral dresses, Hello Kitty, pigtails, baby barrettes) with power/aggression. You're calling back to childhood where girls do whatever they want (in an ideal world) not caring what boys think. You're not dressing for men; you stand up for yourself to say "fuck you" to men who want to belittle you.

The sexualization came with the commercialization of the look. You can't have models with smeary make-up and "cunt" written on their tits in marker in the pages of Seventeen magazine. The last gasp further devolves in the 2000s into "punk fetish" shit like Suicide Girls.

Bringing it back to the character design...my character is not in a band. She is not an activist. She's a bored suburban teenager reading about what slightly older girls and women are doing in New York and Portland in zines and thinks it's cool.

She internalizes a lot of the "fuck you" attitude (or has it already and feels validated to express it). She's also a cult movie dork with an obsessive interest that isn't the alt-rock scene, but is similarly niche/all-consuming.

[cuzzler]

Do you guys believe in the Illuminati still?

[peggy-sue-reads-a-book]

It’s interesting to watch the girlification of everything as, well, not really a girl. I round up to thirty. The sticker on my car is expired and I just got annihilated by taxes. As a Gen Z woman, I take up the liminal space of girl-dinner and the Barbie premier but also Nicu bills and breast pumps. What they don’t tell you is becoming a mother doesn’t really change who you are. You mature. But it’s really not that different from becoming a father or any kind of parent. You’re you, but with additional responsibilities are relationships. It’s increasingly harder not to over-identify with reproduction and nurture, because it’s my whole day. It’s ever-more exhausting to see anyone push the dichotomy between mothers and child-free women. I wrote a poem about it, as an exercise in experiencing my female identity internally and personally, images that aren’t so glued to function and body.

I barely know you, but @artemis-potnia-theron please accept my dedication.

[gaaaaaaaayypr]

How do you explain the "male gaze" when many lesbians write smut?

Do they not have a "gaze" when they write about attractive women? 🤔

What about gay men being objectified by other men? Is that not the "male gaze" then? Or it's only oppressive towards straight women from men??

[theangryfeministwriter]

I want to clarify-

The kind of new wave feminism that I see making a real difference in the future is the one that includes trans women, sex workers, and queer women.

The patriarchy is to blame for society’s transphobia and willingness to oppress and harm sex workers.

New wave feminism, in my opinion, is about confronting the patriarchy in all aspects of life and finding ways to support ALL women.

[evulvalution]

Kathleen 💫