#thinking about yoko ono

[fujouppy]

hey. realize that getting old isnt a nightmare. and then cry a little maybe.

[javelinbk]

John Lennon and Yoko Ono taking part in a march through London, protesting British policy in Northern Ireland and the Oz magazine obscenity trial, 11th August 1971. This was John’s last full day in England - he and Yoko moved to New York the next day

[thewalrusespublicist]

Thinking once again about Yoko’s ‘if he was a woman he would be a great threat’ line. Oh Yoko hun, he was the twist villain all along wasn’t he?

[crepesuzette2023]

Hard Times Are Over (Yoko's Song from Double Fantasy)

[mayusz]

a bit of 60' crowley and an impersonation or two

[13eyond13]

actually stunned by how gay The Beatles has been all this time and I just never knew

[thekhoei]

i finally get myself to read Cyn's book about John and i will never shut up about how sweet and tender this woman can be. if anyone i could say she is the person who loves John the most, more than anyone could ever did, even though it was his mom, his aunt Mimi, or every other Beatles, or even Yoko Ono. no one has loved John the way Cynthia loved John. in another universe, perhaps they would be together and Yoko's first marriage would be gentle to both sensitive women. id imagine Cyn giggling, or crying, showing any kind of emotions she was writing about because she was just a sweet woman like that. i love Cynthia and i love John. a lot. and i think that love both Cynthia and Yoko, or Julia and Mimi, or every other Beatles taught John how to love. help him to learn to love. i just wish he would have more time to love, but im glad he has got the time to learn about love when he was alive.

[keenbugg]

So glad that self portrait is lost media. We would never know a day of peace on here if self portrait wasn’t lost media

[and-i-like-youuu]

Queerness and I Want To Hold Your Hand

Lately, I've been thinking about the potential queer themes in I Want To Hold Your Hand. The only reason I started thinking about it was because of this quote I saw on one of amoralto's posts where John Lennon said:

"It’s a plus, it’s not a minus. The plus is that your best friend, also, can hold you without… I mean, I’m not a homosexual, or we could have had a homosexual relationship and maybe that would have satisfied it, with working with other male artists. [faltering] An artist – it’s more – it’s much better to be working with another artist of the same energy, and that’s why there’s always been Beatles or Marx Brothers or men, together. Because it’s alright for them to work together or whatever it is. It’s the same except that we sleep together, you know? I mean, not counting love and all the things on the side, just as a working relationship with her, it has all the benefits of working with another male artist and all the joint inspiration, and then we can hold hands too, right?"

— John Lennon, interview w/ Sandra Shevey. (1972)

There's so much to unpack from this quote, but I'm going to focus on the last bit of it which really caught my attention. Whilst talking about his creative and romantic relationship with Yoko, John consistently compared it to the kind of creative relationship he had with male artists and how his relationship with her was a lot like the relationships he had had with other male artists except that he was allowed to be in love with her.

If we deconstruct the quote and bullet point each of the qualities he listed as positives with his relationship with Yoko this is what we get:

"A best friend who can hold you without..." I don't want to speak for John or twist his words, but I think the word "fear" or "disgust" can fit very naturally at the end of that thought. And while he doesn't finish that thought, it's pretty clear where he was going with that because he cuts himself off by claiming "I mean, I'm not a homosexual."

"An artist – it’s more – it’s much better to be working with another artist of the same energy..." My take on the "same energy" means same wave-length or same creative chemistry. Or, his equal.

"It’s the same except that we sleep together, you know?" as opposed to him and other male artists.

"just as a working relationship with her, it has all the benefits of working with another male artist"

"Joint inspiration"

"And then we can hold hands too, right?"

If we take away any sense of pronouns and just look at the way John looks at the kind of creative/romantic partnership he valued so much, he placed a lot of emphasis on the creative energy of the relationship as well as the physical aspect of that kind of relationship. There's this sense that he has had a relationship a lot like the one he had with Yoko except that he had wanted a lot of romantic things he could not have because the other artist was male. But with Yoko, he could have it all because she’s a woman.

And that last bit where John said he could hold hands with Yoko struck me as a bit of an odd example to give, but then when I remembered I'm queer I was like OH.

Because, in the heteronormativity of back then, wouldn't a man and woman holding hands be okay? It would've just seem perfectly natural. But why would he have phrased it like a question: "And then we can hold hands too, right?" unless he had, at one point, thought of the alternative: holding hands with another man.

Just so it doesn't seem like I'm beating around the bush here, I think John was thinking about Paul in that entire quote. Which then leads me onto the song I Want To Hold Your Hand.

"We wrote a lot of stuff together, one-on-one, eyeball to eyeball. Like in ‘I Want To Hold Your Hand’, I remember when we got the chord that made the song. We were in Jane Asher’s house, downstairs in the cellar playing on the piano at the same time. And we had, ‘Oh you-u-u… got that something…’ And Paul hits this chord and I turn to him and say, ‘That’s it!’ I said, ‘Do that again!’ In those days, we really used to absolutely write like that – both playing into each other’s nose."

John Lennon, 1980 All We Are Saying, David Sheff

I included the above quote because it exemplified the kinds of qualities John liked in a creative/romantic partner. He didn't say it directly, but based off that quote you could tell John thought he and Paul had a lot of creative energy together, "We wrote a lot of stuff together, one-on-one, eyeball to eyeball." You could tell that songwriting with Paul was an incredibly intimate and special activity with him. And he emphasized their closeness again at the end of that quote when he said, "In those days, we really used to absolutely write like that---both playing into each other's nose." (Okay. They totally kissed ahfjkdhas I'm only joking...but am I?).

As I said, there's a sense of physical closeness to his description, but if you'll notice, there's no actual touching involved. Just a closeness that borders on an invasion of one’s space. "Eyeball-to-eyeball" and "into each other's noses." And then, the "one-on-one," this was something only they did with each other. All their focus on each other.

So, compared with the quote about Yoko about how John could have all that physical and open affection with her. I believe this quote exemplifies John's desire to have had more with Paul.

Okay, so I keep saying I'm going to talk about the song, and I am! But first, some context. I Want To Hold Your Hand was written in 1963; homosexuality remained illegal until 1967 in England. Given that backdrop, if John had had feelings for Paul he wouldn’t have been able to act on them even if he wanted to. Assuming, that is, he was aware of his feelings.

So, to the song!

This was a song both of them wrote together; therefore, it’s hard to say who wrote what lyrics, but I’d like to look at it with a queer lens.

If you look at the lyrics as a whole, there are no pronouns. The song is directed at “you.” Which, in general, is brilliant because it means it could be anyone. Fans could imagine it was them they were singing about or they could imagine someone they wanted to hold hands with too. And also when you think about how John and Paul wrote it “eyeball-to-eyeball” and “into each others noses” … well. It could very well be a confession disguised as a song.

The “let me hold your hand” is one or both of them asking for permission to hold hands. Given the backdrop of criminalized homosexuality, an act like that would’ve been considered “gross indecency” and punishable by law. And to sing that in front of millions? Everyone would’ve assumed they were singing about a vague/general “you,” but if John for instance had had Paul in mind, it would’ve been like asking him in front of the whole audience, the whole world, for permission to hold hands with him. Alongside that it also would’ve been like asking for the audience’s permission to do it as well, in a way. Because the only thing that stopped him from doing that or asking that, I’m sure, were the laws and the homophobia of the time. So, it very well could’ve been let me hold his hand.

The “I wanna hold your hand” is the same as the above except it’s a confession not a request. I want to do this, but the I cant goes unsaid. Which begs the question of why? If we look at it from a hetero perspective, the likely explanation would be “oh, because she doesn’t feel the same way” or “she doesn’t know his feelings” or whatever. But from a queer lens, well, we know why.

Given what John said about his thoughts about creative/romantic partners and how much he valued physical closeness, the lines “And when I touch you / I feel happy inside” serve as a reflection of that. Which I can’t help but recall when Paul said John told him:

So, with that lyric, the act of touch would’ve felt especially significant during that time especially since physical affection between men, even if it was platonic, would’ve been seen as taboo. But the “happy inside” is a private feeling, which is being confessed about in the song.

In queer literature, there are often themes of “hiding” to be found. So, I find the inclusion of the lyric “I can’t hide” very interesting. Because the song itself is the opposite of hiding, in a way. It was putting feelings out there without outing oneself.

In a nutshell, I believe I Want To Hold Your Hand is a veiled confessional love song with queer connotations.

[myplasticadversary]

Did Yoko ever have actual friends who weren't either John or sycophants trying to get something from her...let alone friends who were women

[javelinbk]

The next day Yoko phoned, which, of course, was not at all surprising, since she was calling at least once a day, a pattern that I still found delightful if somewhat perplexing. What was different this time, however, was that she called to give me a warning.

“John was disappointed in you,” she said. “He was disappointed you couldn’t get him those pills.”

“Yoko,” I replied, “I never said they were pills. I told you they were injections.”

“You told me you went to a doctor, and he “gave you pills, and you lost weight,” she insisted.

“With all due respect, that’s not what I said…”

“It’s very important that whenever you make a promise to John, you must keep it,” she continued, ignoring my correction and giving me a piece of advice that would later turn out to be invaluable. “Don’t promise John anything you can’t fulfill. Never disappoint him. Because he has an issue with trust, with people being truthful.”

Excerpt From ‘We All Shine On’, Elliot Mintz

[mooveees]

ISLE OF DOGS

(2018 dir. wes anderson)

[snuuysideup]

john and yoko really did match each others freak huh

[merrysithmas]

yoko ono marrying a gay guy and becoming his famed ultrarich widow has to be prob one of the Top art things of all time... somehow it's like such goals (support womens wrongs) but also so ugly at the same time (smth srsly wrong w them in a DV kind of way)

[iamsigningmylifeaway]

everyone was so hot in the get back era literally not one of anyone missed

[harmonicabisexuals]

True Blue- boygenius // Nobody Sees Me Like You Do- Yoko Ono // Nobody Gets Me- SZA