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Luz is talking to amity willow and her mom at least. Even though only her conversations with camila and amity had emotional significance. But man not a word to the boys? She isnt going to spill her feelings to hunter and gus? Not even her bestie? Her own brother?
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homunculusalphonse · 2 years ago
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as a tired bi, the way ppl go to my lunter fics just to tell me that they prefer interpreting my story as platonic feels like two things: 1) a big no homo sign right to my face, and 2) when ppl say that pink floyd doesn't actually have political lyrics bc they don't see it that way
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lemonnoodlesakaduckie · 21 days ago
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Thought I'd share some facts about Dahla and her relations too a few of the cast. I think seeing them interact would be silly... also wow first time drawing Hunter and Luz, a little scary.
Below this will be the fun lore
Her and Luz are kinda friends after an incident where Luz mistaken her for a lost "cat" as the human said. She just wanted to get some shopping done for Eberwolf- Luz started petting her and Dahla just kinda let her out of pure confusion (strangers don't usually just pet other strangers) Dahla didn't speak just because she was so bewildered by what luz was doing and only spoke up when she got picked up. Luz was talking about showing her too Eda and adopting or whatever. Dahla scrambled her way out of her arms and started explaining that she wasnt just some stray demon and instead very much a witch with "great magic". It was than awkward from then on until Luz joined the school and they shared classes and they became friends quick. Luz just pets her too calm down when classes are too stressful and Dahla accepts it.
Dahla and Hunter don't really have a proper relationship until after DOU. They are acquainted and Hunter has attacked her when she was in her beast form until Eberwolf explained the situation. The two than just kinda knew of one another through Darius and Eberwolf. After DOU they finally bond with one another and the two quickly become very close and enjoy silent moments, Dahla kinda acts like a support animal in a way. When Darius and Eberwolf meet up usually they tag along and just explain their latest hyperfixations too one another. A true found family in my opinion.
Now Dahla and King? Started off insane because King saw her as a threat because he thought she was gonna steal all the attention from Luz and even more enraged when Dahla was allowed in the school and not him. (I have this mini story idea of him trying to join hexside but failing miserably) luckily they make up and make a pack too just be there for Luz. Later when Dahla is over at the Owl House they become friends and honestly, they are the ones who start the cuddle piles.
Other relationships:
Eberwolf: found family siblings
Darius: Found Family uncle figure
Raine: Mentor figure. Taught her how too play the Piano
Willow, Gus, Amity: Friends!
Edric and Emira: Acquaintances
Eda: Mentor Figure
Terra snapdragon: Enemy >:(
Hooty: Yap and Yapper
Open too any and all questions and scenarios!!
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tohwitchesduels · 3 months ago
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SEMI-FINALS OF WITCHES DUELS - Battle 42: Luz Noceda vs Hunter The Golden Guard
Disclaimer: This is not a popularity contest or which character you prefer, in this tournament, you decide who is stronger/better/smarter/etc. opponent.
A longer disclaimer because I don't trust this fan base: please do not use your headcanons on what their relationship is like to you to determine the winner of this battle. I don't care if you see them as siblings or lovers or whatever, canonically they're just good/close friends, so when taking into consideration who wins don't go with the route of "because she's an annoying little sister she will win" or "he's too much in love with her to not fold because of her" none of that please, both of them have already their attitude explained in propaganda and both take this battle seriously so I'm asking for you when voting to do the same.
Also none of the racist white boy favoritism either (adding this because it's a serious issue and frankly the only thing I have on Hunter's side as usually people ridicule and infantilize Hunter so much to make Luz seem like a superior sibling or lover). Make your choices as objective as possible taking into account what happened in the show, not what you told yourself inside your head or once again your preferences and internal biases. This is a witch's duel, not sibling shenanigans or Romeo and Juliet, I specifically didn't include any of those headcanons here (Except for the tag of Hunter Noceda) so they wouldn't be taken into account as I don't care what you like or prefer, none of this has a place here, so also no discourses in the tags about whether or not it's a ship post or sibling post as it's neither. If I catch anyone not following this extra-long disclaimer you're blocked and not allowed to ever vote in this tournament again.
But I will forgive potential misclicks as long as you come forward with it being an actual misclick.
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information for both opponents under the cut to those who don't know what they can do in their battle:
Because both of their profiles are large, I will just explain their motivations while the specifics of their moves will be linked in their names.
Luz Noceda
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Luz Noceda, the protagonist of our story, is one and only. Unlike other competitors, Luz is a rare example of a jack of all trades who does not specialize in one specific magical track and studies all of them. Normally, Luz specializes in glyphs but according to the lore of my own tournament which happens after the final battle with Belos, Luz no longer has access to glyphs. However, she now does have a magical staff that allows her to still be able to cast spells just fine as proven by Owlbert in Young Blood, Old Souls. Now, since my rules specify how at times you're not allowed to use palismen in the battle, Luz is capable of avoiding this rule thanks to String Bean's shape-shifting nature, as String Bean possibly could transform into an accessory that would allow Luz to cast a spell like everyone is none the wiser, or maybe even shape-shift into an instrument to mimic bard magic (even though Luz has no vibration based spells). Outside of that Luz would also have access to some other supporting artifacts.
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The number of spells she has will be right here, so here you go
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Luz has never won against Hunter every time they battled, but you know what they say, the third time's a charm right? Luz knows that Hunter is not going to be easy to take down, especially now that he could potentially take her as a serious threat so now she's more determined than ever to put everything on the line and give it her all because she knows that if she won't, then there's no chance of winning against Hunter.
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When it comes to Luz's fighting style, she in general prefers to outsmart and outpower her opponents with the raw strength of her magic. Luz has come far ever since she started to learn magic, currently with String Bean by her side she certainly is now more accustomed to spell-casting. Luz is quite proficient with magic now coming up with new creative ways to utilise her magic. She also now has more experience in combat meaning she's more willing to take down her opponents head-on. Luz can however be pretty reckless and impulsive when approaching her opponents, biting more than she can chew and sometimes jumping without thinking. Luz can however be quick on her feet and easily recover and come up with new ways to get an upper hand during battles.
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Luz now possesses her own palisman as we all know it which happens to be none other than String Bean. String Bean showed that with her presence, Luz could be even stronger than she used to be, and Luz had plenty of experience with Owlbert beforehand to know how to use a witch's staff. Luz is a true aerial ace as Eda's Requiem episode proves as she could've won the race if it wasn't for King. She of course also knows how to correctly cast spells with staff alone and can use it in combat. String Bean also has a unique shape-shifting ability, allowing her to take on features of other creatures and use them to her advantage. Granted she can't change size with the ability so all animals will be miniature, but it can come in handy nonetheless, and she could change String Bean into other objects (like jewelry or instruments) in case she can't use witch's staff.
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Luz shall be allowed a multitude of tools to help her out during battles. One of them happens to be a crystal ball from her oracle class. Luz can use it to conjure up a single ghost that can be used to help Luz aid in the battle and also predict Luz's future. The ghost is usually chill but rather helpful. It's intangible meaning it's immune to physical attacks for the most part (but can be dispelled with special attacks) and can phase through solid objects to get to its opponents and be capable of touching them to inflict harm.
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Another tool Luz would be allowed to use is tea leaves from oracle class which would also help her learn about her opponents, what they're capable of, and what they're going to do.
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Luz is also equipped with a training wand in case she needs another source of magic to cast spells from. It's like a hidden dagger if someone would take her sword (as in her staff, I'm clearly alluding to Sasha Waybright's example) away.
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Another tool Luz is free to use is her iconic bat which Luz can use for offensive purposes. Luz is allowed to have and use other weapons like a mace and a sword to aid her in the time of her need.
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And of course, how could I not forget that Luz also has fireworks to help her in a fight to add more to her firepower.
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While Luz doesn't have beast-keeping magic at all, she does seem to have an affinity to be able to tame most of the wild beasts as presented throughout the entire show with her knowledge and attitude. This means Luz is not really affected much by beast-keepers sending animals in her direction unless they're directly under the command of their masters (as in like pets. Sometimes some beasts are untamed and would not follow even the beast-keeper).
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Luz also has brought snakes to her battle as she managed to tame them just enough so they would not attack her but certainly would attack her opponents. They're not venomous though considering now pressed any charges when Luz brought them to school. She will bring a few of them.
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Another animal that Luz would bring with her to the battlefield are spiders. They're mostly used to just scare people during the fight by pouring them all over her opponents. Can be used as a great distraction. She has quite a large number of them and she can even naturally attract them as seen in TtT. The spiders are also not harmful and Luz is not phased by them either.
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Smoke Potion - Another tool Luz would be granted to use is a smoke potion she could brew as seen in the First Day. Luz could potentially utilize it as a smokescreen or suffocation attempt.
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Hunter The Golden Guard:
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Hunter "Insert your preferred surname/s for him", also known as a former and the youngest Golden Guard in history, head of the Emperor's Coven, Emperor Belos's right-hand man. One must know that unlike other contestants (aside from Luz) he's not constricted to specific covens and tracks since as a former leader of the coven that allows all kinds of magic, Hunter will have expertise in all types of coven magic as well, and he's also very dedicated to studying wild magic.
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Hunter himself was also known as a genius teen prodigy and is undeniably a child soldier who was raised by both hell and the library to get to the very top. While he was born magicless, it did not stop him from earning his title as the right-hand man of the most powerful witch of the Boiling Isles. Hunter spends days and nights both training and learning everything about magic both as a duty and as fun. He's incredibly knowledgeable regarding all kinds of magic, meaning it's hard to actually surprise him with anything. And since he's a child soldier raised in a magical military with no magic by himself, Hunter had to survive hell even worse than some of the adults that also were part of this coven went through, and he survived it all. Hunter has already been to countless witches' duels beforehand, he made it several times through a maze full of traps, and judging by how he calls getting from the top to the bottom of the mountain alive "a classic", this might as well suggest that this Hunter's version of "summer camp", as he did that numerous times and he considers it "fond memories". Hunter without a doubt has the most experience among all participants when it comes to battling, because you know Belos never gave him a break or easy time and for Hunter to be where he is today is all thanks to his own strength, intelligence, and resilience.
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Hunter has defeated Luz with no effort every time they battled, and after getting to know Luz long enough he now knows all of her potential tricks and tactics even more so. Hunter recognizes both strengths and weaknesses of Luz, he knows how reckless yet talented she can be, what are her spells and tricks and how they work and since he was a trained soldier, he knows how to exploit her weaknesses and what's the best way to counter her strengths. On one hand, Hunter knows Luz takes this seriously and she shouldn't be taken too lightly, but he can't help it considering how effortlessly he managed to fight her off previously and how Luz still makes at times similar mistakes. Nonetheless, he is willing to give her the fight of her life.
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Hunter certainly has one of the strongest wills among all characters in TOH, as despite going through a ridiculous amount of pain, he is capable of brushing it off and pushing forward, with his only weakness being Belos. Hunter's willpower was even able to withstand Gus's trauma bubble which specifically puts you through your worst memories and even renders you useless, but Hunter resisted its effect and calmed Gus down instead, despite his pain being very fresh and severe and Hunter in fact not being ok with it, but Hunter keeps on going anyway. One must know it's very hard to break him, trust Belos, he tried but didn't succeed. Hunter even managed to resist Belos's possession for some time, which is a lot considering Belos was his abuser and had power over him metaphorically and physically in that moment.
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Hunter displayed throughout the series to have some great athletic skills and agility, being able to keep up pace with running Luz without breaking a sweat while proving he has experience in parkour and acrobatics as seen in him flying on staff. Certainly, he can use his skills to evade incoming attacks with his reflexes while keeping up with his opponents and close distance between him and his enemies. He also has plenty of brute strength at his disposal as well, considering he managed to shatter falling debris by just swinging his staff in one hand.
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Hand-To-Hand Combat - Hunter has proven to be efficient in hand-to-hand combat throughout the series. While Hunter overall plays more on defense as a protector rather than offense, he is not afraid to throw a punch. This post goes more in-depth about Hunter's proficiency in staff-wielding, but I will explain some of it here too. Hunter as a trained soldier and experienced martial artist has his body be his weapon. He knows how the body works and has great control over it. He defeated both Luz and Eda in his debut with a quick kick while evading their attack, straight-up toyed with Kikimora, and had to be put to sleep to be restrained by coven scouts as he was still fighting and kicking. This also gives him a huge advantage against other competitors who are used to fighting across distance, whereas Hunter fights at a close range.
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Back in EC Hunter learned how to be smart, resourceful, and strong, and as I've mentioned before multiple times, he's a child soldier. His opponents usually underestimate him, but he's not the one to be crossed. His victories compromise of defeating Eda and Luz on 2v1 in his debut; immediately defeating Luz in HP once he's recovered; defeating Kikimora in HP; and Tying with Amity in EL after being physically and mentally exhausted, in 2v1 with King (who was rather defeated by Hunter in this duel), while wielding a completely new staff and restraining himself to not kill her but just getting the key; winning flyer derby game on his first try; catching Darius off-guard (which is a feat with Darius's great reflexes); making a strong glyph combo on his very first try; resisting Gus's trauma bubble; kicking ass during Hexside against EC battle; he was defeated twice by coven scouts, which while fair, was also due to his poor condition and the second time he had to be put to sleep to be restrained; handling abomatons and scouts with rest of the Hexsquad during S2 finale; standing his ground and protecting Hexsquad from Belos while being severely weakened in KT; breaking through Willow's vines in FtF with his freshly awakened powers.
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Hunter now is sub-merged with Flapjack meaning he does not require staff anymore to cast spells as magic now comes from within. What's more, I allow Hunter to also levitate/fly without the help of any staff. This is more of a fanon ability, but it's supposed to connect him to having the powers of a palisman (but no, he can't turn into a staff, nor is wooden) and abilities of a palisman are usually just enhanced abilities of the holder, meaning flight is in capacity of any witch, but all of them utilise staff since flight on its own is probably hard spell to pull off, but Hunter should do just fine for the sake of this tournament.
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It's worth mentioning that Hunter will not be affected by Sleeping Smoke effects as he knows how such a spell works and would not be fooled by it.
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And now finally, let's talk about his staff. For the purposes of this tournament, I will give Hunter Waffles. You know Hunter is the best staff wielder in the entire tournament only rivaled by Luz. I already mentioned how Hunter is absolutely proficient with his staff, utilizing it for both offensive and very effective strikes and flawless defense. Hunter is also a real aerial ace capable of flying at high speeds with agility to dodge attacks and is capable of even surfing on his staff as demonstrated when he showed off in ASIAS. His flying skills were also decisive in both forming EE and winning their very first game together.
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toh-tagteam-au · 2 years ago
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Tag Team AU Synopsis – Separate Tides
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Previous Part [Intermission: Yesterday's Lie]
Next Part [Escaping Expulsion] [coming soon]
Welcome to the official first episode of Tag Team season 2! Time to really get started. This episode went through so many rewrites in the beginning ngl.
WE’RE BACK AT THE OWL HOUSE BABYYYYY!!! 
We open with Eda and Lilith talking at the dinner table, discussing ways to get money now that Eda doesn’t have the portal. Lilith questions why she gave it to the Golden Guard, and Eda says that Luz needed it more than she did. 
Enter: Hunter. He doesn’t talk as he enters, and Lilith gets quiet. He starts making a sandwich in silence while Eda and Lilith start talking again. Lilith says something about Luz and the portal door again, and Hunter leaves suddenly and slams the door behind him.
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They talk a bit more about how Lilith regrets treating them terribly when they were in the Emperor’s coven, and how their relationship constantly reminded her of what she lost when she cursed Eda. 
Suddenly Hunter rushes back in again, holding a crystal ball.
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The camera follows Hunter as he heads up to his room.
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Cut to the market. Hunter is walking with King on his shoulder, hood up. People whisper as he walks by. King questions if this is a good idea, and whether or not Luz will even be on this mission. Hunter assures him that bounties this high only come from the Emperor’s Coven. 
So they go on the selkidamus mission. He excels like canon Luz does, but is a bit more serious. King goes off on his own to explore the ship and look for Luz while Hunter does his work. Eventually, King finds himself in the captain’s quarters.
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Cut to Hunter, outside the ship and keeping the selkidamus restrained with plant glyphs. It’s working until the ship is hit by Eda. Before she can run off, though, Hunter uses Flapjack to dash over and tackle her down. They grapple for a second before both of them realize who it is they’re fighting.
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Cut to the three of them in a ship cell. They have a small back and forth about how they’re both hypocrites for telling the other to not harass the EC when Luz finally enters.
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They hash out a secret plan before Luz calls out to them to hurry up.
Haven’t written the entirety of the fight scene out, but the gist is that Hunter and Eda use the glyphs to trick Luz a similar way it happens in canon. The only differences are that she’d want to go in the cave with them at first, and King is free, so the plan is a bit more complex. Luz also doesn’t look at the selkidamus “corpse” because she feels bad and doesn’t want to see the dead animal. 
Luz regretfully mentions they should probably find a separate way home, since scouts will probably try arresting Hunter on-sight if they’re on the EC ship pulling into port. The siblings hug, but it’s still fairly tense, and Luz leaves.
Hunter and Eda get back to the Owl House on the bath-boat, entering to see a messed-up Lilith looking jolly. She went through the whole situation with making the scrying potion, and presents it to the both of them. She points out that the scouts are helpless without her as coven head, and Hunter disagrees – they look more productive than they ever did under Lilith’s supervision.
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Previous Part [Intermission: Yesterday's Lie]
Next Part [Escaping Expulsion + Keeping Up A-fear-ances]
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whisperwillyou · 2 years ago
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Do you have any good Hunter fics that are long and non romantic up your sleeve? Super not asking for a friend it’s for me
*rolls up my sleeves* oh buddy DO I EVER
Fair warning, I’m an angst gremlin so these all contain a healthy dose of the Sads™ but considering you’re also a Hunter fan, odds are you also enjoy the angst lmaoo
Most of these are Luz and Hunter-centric bc I love the Noceda Siblings and I’m nothing if not predictable 😌
Let us begin…
What We are is the Sum of a Thousand Lies
Ongoing 59k+
FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV my all time favorite fic, they captured both my FAVORITE flavor of Hunter characterization, AND my favorite flavor of Luz & Hunter interactions (+bonus Eda, Darius, & Flapjack!) it’s just *chef kiss* PEAK content. I reread it regularly
Contingency
Ongoing 108k
Inside you there are two wolves, one is a sad lil boy and the other is the psychological embodiment of the obedient, brainwashed, soldier you were created to be, which your uncle programmed into you when he built you in his evil lab.
Burnt Out
Complete 3K
This one’s a short one but it’s one of my favs so I had to include it. ✨Sic fic✨
Even Sad Birds Still Sing
Ongoing 54k+
Hunter gets turned into a cardinal by a cursed gemstone. Ngl when the first chapter of this fic came out I thought it was gonna be more of a crack fic. I was unbelievably wrong and it is so SO good.
La Gaundière
Complete 12k
This one is some really good post Hunting Palismen Golden Gaurd era Hunter
To be or Not to Be
Ongoing 28k
Hunter takes some ‘me time’ after Hollow Minds and camps. He has a horrible time.
Peak traumatized Hunter seasoned with some great Noceda siblings content and a garnish of Hunter and Hooty friendship. 👌
Blood Moon
Ongoing 48k
Honestly I don’t know how to summarize this fic without spoiling anything, so just trust me, it’s so good.
Your hands do more than Hurt
Ongoing 27k
Darius and Hunter-centric, mind the tags though, this is a sad one
With Clay and Star Scraps
Complete (open ended) 48k
Hunter discovers that being a grimwalker comes with some super fun, funky, and not at all distressing side effects.
Enough to Leave Scars
Complete 14k
Post King’s Tide shenanigans of a former child soldier. ie ptsd
Oop hit the link limit lol rip
Learned Response
Complete 11k
Hunter fabulously misinterprets Luz’s relationship with her mother like the traumatized autistic he is.
With His Beak He Tries to Soothe Me
Complete 10K
Some really sweet Hunter and Flapjack content
Refuge
ongoing 10k+
Camila adjusting to having four new kids under her roof and is unsure what to make of Hunter being… the way he is.
The Golden Brat
Complete 5k+
Coven Scout meeting the Golden Guard for the first time in person: “what’s with this sassy lost child?”
Hopefully you enjoy these!
Special thanks to all theses authors for the platonic content. You’re doing the lords work, feeding us starving lil’ AroAces 💕💕
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ajthedumbass · 11 months ago
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The World’s Not Perfect (But It’s Not That Bad) (30433 words) by arinthealien Chapters: 7/? Fandom: The Owl House (Cartoon) Rating: Mature Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Hunter | The Golden Guard & Camila Noceda & Luz Noceda & Vee, Hunter | The Golden Guard & Luz Noceda, Luz Noceda & Vee, Hunter | The Golden Guard & Vee (The Owl House), Amity Blight/Luz Noceda, Masha/Vee (The Owl House), Hunter | The Golden Guard/Willow Park, Mattholomule/Gus Porter, Camila Noceda/Manny Noceda, Evelyn/Caleb Wittebane, Eda Clawthorne/Raine Whispers Characters: Luz Noceda, Vee (The Owl House), Hunter | The Golden Guard (The Owl House), Camila Noceda, Amity Blight, Gus Porter, Willow Park, Philip Wittebane | Emperor Belos, Caleb Wittebane, Evelyn (The Owl House), Mattholomule (The Owl House), Masha (The Owl House), Edric Blight, Emira Blight, Darius Deamonne, Eda Clawthorne, Raine Whispers Additional Tags: Human AU, Hunter | the Golden Guard and Luz Noceda and Vee are Siblings, Good Parent Camila Noceda, Bad Parent Philip Wittebane | Emperor Belos, Caleb and Evelyn are Hunter’s parents, Luz Noceda has ADHD, Vee Has ADHD (The Owl House), Hunter | The Golden Guard has PTSD (The Owl House), Autistc Hunter | The Golden Guard (The Owl House), Hunter | The Golden Guard Needs a Hug (The Owl House), Luz Noceda Needs a Hug, Vee Needs a Hug (The Owl House), Trans Hunter | The Golden Guard (The Owl House), Trans Willow Park, Trans Mattholomule (The Owl House), Hunter is pagan, dont tell Philip, Paganism, Religious Imagery & Symbolism, Child Abuse, Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Cigarettes, Underage Smoking, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Implied/Referenced Character Death, house fire, Hunter has burn scars, Hunter and Vee have Ocular Albinism, Grief/Mourning, Depression, Past Stillbirth, Adoption, Abandonment, Homophobia, Transphobia, Bullying, Dissociation, unsafe binding, the author is a theater kid, Musical References, Kind of a drama club au?, Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, Jacob is a creep (The Owl House), ace-spectrum characters, Implied/Referenced Self-Harm Summary:
The Noceda family has been followed by tragedy for years. After too many death anniversaries clumped together in a singular month, Luz and Vee are anxious to finally leave August behind them.
Hunter Wittebane hasn’t felt fully happy since he was 7. Plagued by loss, abuse, and an unstable living situation throughout the Bible Belt, he feels weird being back in his hometown after nearly a decade.
One fateful bus ride brings the trio together.
~Noceda Siblings Human AU~
Fic title from If We Have Each Other by Alec Benjamin.
Please check tags and chapter notes for content warnings.
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crimeronan · 1 year ago
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Re: the Luz and Hunter being each other's type though. I remember when Hunting Palismen had just come out and well-meaning commentators on twitter and elsewhere were falling over themselves to be like "I LOVE that they've established a QUIRKY SIBLING VIBE between these two!! So as not to interfere with Lumity!! Because that would be Biphobic! We all agree on this interpretation!!" when like. I also agreed that lumity was probably too far along for Hunter to be intended as a love interest but 🤨🤨🤨 Come on. The wacky snarky m/f couple teaming up against their better judgement has been a STAPLE trope for decades, maybe forever?? Shrek and Fiona, Rapunzel and Flynn, Beauty and the Beast just off the top of my head wrt recent animation lmao
i just remember how fucking Startled i was to go into the tags once i was caught up on the show and see them constantly referred to as brother and sister. i was like.... did i...??? did i miss an episode???? i guess the smearing spit on each other's faces thing was enough for most people but i grew up with two siblings and do NOT see my relationship with either of them reflected in luz and hunter's dynamic. you know who i Do see, though....
uh.... my relationship with any of my partners.....
which is why the siblings thing STILL feels weird to me. even though i understand the interpretation & i know 95% of sibling truthers value the Exact Same Things in their dynamic that i do.
i'm just like. listen. i don't think i'll ever write a fanfic where luz calls hunter her brother even though many many many commenters have interpreted the qpr i write between them as siblingship. and it's not bc i'm trying to purposefully cockblock sibling truthers or whatever.
(i saw a very strange take the other day saying that luz calling hunter "family" instead of "brother" in the canon somehow undermines their relationship?? bc it doesn't make them Real Enough Family?? and i almost started swinging. i earned at least 100 of the "you probably shouldn't say anything and you didn't!! well done!!" reward stars. you have no IDEA how much self-control i possess)
but anyway. i don't refer to them as siblings because i would feel fucking Weird And Wrong referring to my own qpp (who's sound asleep spooning me as i type this) as my sister.
She Is Not!!! That Is Not My Sibling!!!
ultimately i think a lot of sibling truthing happens because people lack the language for "chosen family that isn't a romantic partner or a sibling." but i know a lot of it is also because if hunter could viably be in love with luz then """lumity couldn't happen,""" which. um. does genuinely hurt my feelings, a little bit.
because it isn't TRUE.
i am sitting here as a polyamorous person with multiple partners to say STOP ASSUMING THAT IS TRUE. PLEEEAASEEE..... BEING THREATENED BY OTHER SHIPS IS A BIG MONOGAMY PSYOP.....
monogamy isn't real and can't hurt you. lumiter and lavender winter 5eva. amen 🙏
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divinemiracles · 2 years ago
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“You’re Family Now.”
—Luz believing that her bond with Hunter is so strong to where she can call him family, or someone that is extremely close to her. In this case, likely platonically. (Thanks to Them)
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“Meteor shower. Quick, take cover, but the hues in our hair compliment one another. I’d sell my own bones for amethyst stones, ‘cause purple is your favorite color.”
—Edited the lyrics in Meteor Shower by Cavetown.
Edit made by me.
—Kamusta? Take a seat, make yourself comfortable. This is a safe space to voice your opinions on controversial topics and ship Huntceda without being judged. You can refer to me as Silla with the pronouns she/her/hers. I’m anti-harassment, I use the block button when seeing content that discomforts me, problematic or not. That’s the only shipping label I can identify with. Learn how to use the block button and learn how to scroll.
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Lunter is not problematic because:
• Bisexual woman x bisexual man relationships are not heterosexual, they are bisexual and a part of the LGBQTIA+ Community. So what if they wouldn’t be censored? Biphobic viewers will think they get “fixed” when they begin dating. Multisexual duaric relationships are just as valid as sapphic ones. Every relationship is valid.
• Luz and Hunter being siblings is a headcanon. Camila has not adopted Hunter and the show has ended. Camila viewed every single one of the Hexside kids as her own. Only things inside of the show on-screen are considered canon, like Darius taking in Hunter. Things outside are the crew’s personal headcanons.
• Luz views Hunter as a friend, not a brother. Family does not always mean literal blood/legal family, it’s a term used by people who are extremely close to each other. The entire Hexsquad was a family. She has not directly said “You’re my brother.”
• You can view your lover’s parent as a parental figure without automatically wishing for them to be your parent.
• Luz will always canonically be in a relationship with her girlfriend.
*Harassing people is pointless since 9.5/10 people won’t listen. Just block people if you think that the content is problematic, that’s what I do. Harassing people still makes you a bad person, even if the content is seriously problematic. If it’s seriously bad, block and report.
To keep this blog’s posts safe for (nearly) all romantic Lunter fans, please do not tag my posts as “proship,” “comship,” “platonic Lunter,” and “siblings.”
Also please don’t reply with ship stuff on my posts that have nothing to do with said ship.
“Us Weirdos Have To Stick Together. <3”
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cherrymoonvol6 · 2 years ago
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so... about lunter.
...i'll understand if you stop reading now, but i still have some meta to squeeze from this so tag along for that at least.
well. if you know me at all you'll know i have a thing for problematique pairings. i crave complex romantic dynamics that have a lot of narrative potential and explore every aspect of its characters and their development throughout (and after) the story. usually, that means being into stories that involve trauma and grief. think asgore and toriel in undertale.
this is not my first time keeping up with the owl house: to satisfy my curiosity, i would check the tumblr tag every time it trended [tumblr trending tab is my newspaper], but it never caught my attention beyond that. well, that's until i came to know about lunter. see, there's something about fandom hated pairings that just speaks to me - what is it that people are so outraged about? is it because the dynamic it's too complicated? well then give me it, i will chomp it down! anyways.
so, what's the verdict? before i go into that, let me talk about Luz and Hunter™.
BUT…. BUT, SIBLINGS!: i was well aware of this claim while watching the show and i was worried that i wouldn't be able to dispute it. look, i wouldn't jump ship either way (ha, get it?). i've survived dear ships of mine becoming incestuous through weird loops (vlr/ztd i am looking at you). it's fine. not the end of the world. but, to be honest, i don't necessarily think the sibling aspect is the point of hunter and luz's dynamic.
i think their dynamic is definitely playful, and i can see how people can say it's sibling-coded. tbh, i'm just tired of every platonic relationship between guy and girl being labeled as sibling-like: it's a trend that started as a response of the opposite case when people assume guy and girl getting along equals romance (along with the “dumb of ass & lesbian”), but lately it's plasted over EVERYTHING and i just miss when people would be like "you know guys and girls can be just friends, right?" my point is that both luz and hunter have other clearly defined sibling-like relationships: luz and king, and hunter with gus. although the later isn’t as clear-cut as the former (luz and king refer to each other as siblings a handful of times), i believe that’s what the point of the episode is when hunter consoles gus in his “room”. the mere domesticity of it, and the fact that hunter is the first in the show to breach gus’ space like that and encourage him is, IMO, enough imagery to justify that claim. if anything it’s way more explicit than what is done with luz and hunter. i am open, however, to revise the claims that might indicate that siblifying luz and hunter could be the show’s point. in my eyes, the evidence is:
the fact that hunter has a deeper connection with luz out of everyone in the group.
how hunter is neither witch nor demon nor human and he's up for "adoption".
i won’t count the family line because, found family, duh - it’s the whole point of camila taking care of the kids in TTT, and the only person who has a genuine parental link to camila besides luz is vee. previous to FTF’s release i was genuinely considering an ending where hunter would migrate to the human realm, in which case him staying with luz and camila could lead to the canonification of the sibling claims. however, a main point in that argument was about hunter not having magic - with the newfound knowledge that hunter does have powers due to flapjack’s sacrifice, i believe the chances for hunter ending in the human realm are significantly less, especially when we consider that it’s very likely that luz will stay in the boiling isles.
dynamic wise, i would take the playfulness claim a lot more seriously if that ever developed past their first (real) meeting in hunting palismen. i think playfulness is just something that is baked into luz - we see it when she sticks out her tongue at amity after she sees her belittle willow, for example. however, these instances are just meant to be humorous, as i believe that what their dynamic truly is (pre-hollow mind) is more of a commentary on hunter’s self-seriousness contrasted with luz’s carefree “i’m here to make friends” attitude. hunter expects her to be afraid of him and to treat him with respect, and the times that she doesn’t he either gets mad or retaliates back. to me, it proves a point about how young hunter actually is, something that is remarked a handful of times during hunting palismen - luz won’t treat him like that because she can see hunter is a kid, just like her. even the most sibling-like they get (smacking each other after the fake-kiss) is just meant to subvert expectations via using the trope of the waking up kiss and then turning it around where they act like siblings instead [it’s also a way to establish hunter as far as it can from being a love interest for luz]. again, those instances are not part of hunter and luz’s dynamic as it stands now. like, if someone could point out the supposed “playfulness” in their interactions in TTT… nah, you can’t. their friendship has evolved past that. and you know, you can interpret that however you want. but your reading of their dynamic as “sibling-like” is just that: a reading. therefore not supported by canon atm and i’ll take full advantage of that.
speaking of siblings… it’s time to talk about the wittebane brothers.
BUT THE PARALLELS!: i do think in the show there's a real attempt to parallel phillip and caleb to luz and hunter, but i wouldn't say it's with the intentions of siblifying them. in actuality the point of it is that it's "debunked" at the end of TTT, when hunter states that belos fools people - and breaks the cycle of the "you and i are very alike" villain speech that luz has internalized due to her guilt.
[side note: i love that such a strong realization for hunter is also so narratively sound for luz’s own guilt. a testament of how great both characters are.]
therefore, the parallels are subverted by the show itself. another part of it is the foreshadowing: the show wants to make it clear that belos continues to be a threat and that he'll appear by the third act of the episode, and that we'll get to see some background of the wittebros too. besides that, the parallels do NOTHING to establish luz and hunter as siblings. after all, the whole point is that phillip betrayed caleb and he chose to shatter their bond, which is absolutely not what happens with luz and hunter. the subversion is a huge part of that, and then there’s also other aspects like belos never making that connection when he reveals himself to the main group. he goes out of his way to identify flapjack as evelyn and hunter as caleb, yet he never projects onto luz, instead only indulging in her guilt. moreover, it’s an aspect that only lasts during this one episode - kinda how most of the playfulness dies in hunting palismen. even if it gets referenced in the last episode, the fact that the connection will only be made in two episodes makes it so it’s not strong enough.
and honestly, i don’t have a lot of reasons to believe luz and hunter will become “siblings” by the end of the show in the likes of king and luz’s dynamic. for starters, they barely interact in FTF, hammering the point that luz and hunter’s connection grew based on the secrets they were keeping from the others - and so they could only rely on each other. now that everyone knows that hunter is a grimwalker and that luz helped belos, there’s no real reason for them to be paired up, much less during the neck-braking pace that these last episodes have been forced to take. moreover, i believe at this point hunter and luz are headed for very different paths, and it wouldn’t make that much sense for hunter to either become eda’s protegee (he wants to study magic at hexside and eda is anything but a traditional “teacher”) or be adopted by the nocedas back in the human realm (so many hints that luz will decide to stay in the demon realm, and we’ll see what camila will choose then).
HOW THE FUCK DO PEOPLE THINK LUZ IS NOT EVELYN: at this point, with only one 45 minute episode left for the entirety of the show, it’s impossible that the writers could imply that luz and hunter have a romantic connection. i’ll take the L on that, don’t worry. but holy FUCK if it isn’t clear as day that luz and hunter mirror the story of caleb and evelyn.
i hate to not start chronologically but let’s look at hollow mind first: there are pointed parallels to the silhouettes of caleb and evelyn and luz and hunter running away from belos.
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this becomes even more pointed when you realize that this is the first time that hunter unambiguously rejects belos, by taking luz’s hand.
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i actually love that look belos gives hunter because my god. he’s once again seeing how caleb rejects him. he has to watch yet again as he runs away with a witch.
allow me some indulgence as i repeat this: the show is explicitly paralleling evelyn to luz. she’s the evelyn in that situation. the imagery is there and it’s clear as water.
but okay. by those standards, luz and hunter being paralleled to imagery of the wittebane bros would support the point that they’re uhhh sibling-endgame. you got me there. counterpoint: who is evelyn supposed to be in the story?
evelyn, as the story masha told says, is the witch that dazzled caleb with her magic and drew him away from philip and their witch hunting agenda. now, it’s important to note that this story is obviously told from belos’ perspective: we also see how masha is skeptical to the recounting, judging philip as a jealous brat. we’re meant to criticize the story because we know it comes from philip’s perspective. therefore, while the story portrays evelyn as a bad influence that took caleb down the wrong path with her temptations, it’s most likely that caleb had already changed his mind about witches and wild magic, and him falling for a witch is just further proof that, at that point, he didn’t see them as threats anymore. this would make sense taking into account how hunter behaves in the show: he’s eager to help belos and to do that he’s accumulated a lot of knowledge about everything concerning wild magic, but also it’s extremely clear that hunter is deeply interested by it. even when he’s convinced that wild magic decimated his family, he’s still fascinated by it. it is for that reason that is really important that the first time luz and hunter bond is through their knowledge and passion for magic.
this is because, in my eyes, that’s exactly how caleb and evelyn would have bonded all those years ago. evelyn doesn’t show him something new that caleb is entranced with: she’s part of a system that he’s already warmed to, that he probably studies in his own time. evelyn just happened to be the last straw that made caleb fully commit to abandoning witch-hunting.
and as we just revised in hollow mind, that’s exactly what happens between luz and hunter. she reaches out, and he accepts her.
luz is hunter’s first real connection to wild magic: it’s clear by the way he simply doesn’t contain his fascination and catches himself after the fact. up to that point, no one has filled that spot for him. not even flapjack!
it’s funny to me because of hunter’s little monologue at luz about her not planning ahead. at this point, he’s just projecting onto her: hunter clearly doesn’t know what to do about this revelation that he likes talking about magic with luz. he folds so easily the moment that she expresses her disappointment. and i love how flapjack is completely divorced from this moment: he clearly has no problems with belos feasting on palismen, even understanding how crucial it is for the emperor’s survival, and since flapjack is yet to choose him he doesn’t even have that connection to a palisman to understand the real horror of putting them in danger. no, he lets luz go because she’s the first person that he’s talked to about magic without mincing his words or expecting punishment. the fact that luz doesn’t consider him a friend is reason enough. and not only does he let her go: he reveals his real name to her. i wish this moment would’ve been given more weight by hunter like, not telling his name to every person who crosses his path from that episode onwards, but oh well. still it’s a real moment of connection and vulnerability that is absent from any other relationship hunter has in the show (especially fucking willow sdjfhdjsk like you could argue for gus, darius and even AMITY but NOT willow), especially during the time hunter was 100% still on belos’ side.
again let me bring up the imagery: hunter lets a wild witch go, during a mission where whatever she’s taking is key for the emperor’s survival. he makes that decision, and then he goes and makes that decision again when he takes luz’s hand in hollow mind. think about this moment compared to hunter’s behavior in eclipse lake: the moment he sets eye on the titan’s blood, he doesn’t rest until he takes it for himself, relentlessly fighting amity to do so. in hunting palismen, he deliberately avoids fighting luz - and even protects her from kikimora -, even when she’s proven that she’s capable enough to kick his ass in combat. not out of pity, just genuinely out of a desire to honor the connection that they now have.
flapjack is also pretty important in this whole equation. masha makes a point in using the imagery of flapjack (not any other bird: flapjack) to show the things evelyn used to “charm” caleb away.
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if they’re drawing from philip’s notes to create the imagery for the story, then it’s almost guaranteed that flapjack used to be caleb’s palisman, and it checks out as flapjack suggests the name “caleb” when hunter is undercover in the flyer derby episode. if flapjack was able to find hunter now, then it’s really possible that he’s detected most of the other grimwalkers and even been a crucial piece to allow them to break free out of belos’ control. again, belos saying “goodbye, evelyn” when he mortally wounds flapjack also contributes to this.
it’s not my intention to draw significance away from flapjack’s connection with hunter. it’s clear to me that the writers want to highlight this dynamic and flapjack transferring his powers to hunter when he brings him back to life is their way to homage their link. however, flapjack seems to immediately take a liking to luz even before hunter arrives to take the palismen away. i hate not being able to draw a clear conclusion (aka, flapjack knew that hunter would be arriving soon, for some reason) because palismen behavior is uhhh kinda erratic? and i’ve felt this way since the palismen episode in S1. but still, as the palismen cower in fear when they’re kidnapped, flapjack confidently heads out along with luz to confront hunter. if anything, he might be the exception to the rule, having identified the fact that hunter was indeed coming in close contact during that night.
what i want to highlight in the hunting palismen episode is that flapjack sticks to luz first and foremost. again, coming back to the imagery used in TTT, it’s implied that evelyn either carved caleb’s palisman or gave him the tools to do so. likewise, it’s important that flapjack uses luz as a vehicle to get closer to hunter, and as it happens in the show, luz meeting hunter is what leads to flapjack becoming hunter’s palisman. and if we take into account what i discussed earlier about hollow mind, to me it’s abundantly clear that luz is hunter’s evelyn in that moment. and this is supported by the fact that flapjack allows luz to use him to get closer to hunter once he gets possessed by belos during TTT, after we see the story of the wittebanes.
furthermore, all these little hints take on a deeper meaning when you realize that none of these parallels are given to willow, ever. not even by showing that evelyn specialized in plant magic or something like that. even in TTT hunter’s crush on willow is inconsequential to the larger plot, as the show frames hunter with luz during the wittebros story.
OKAY. LUZ IS EVELYN. WHAT NOW?: well. not much else, unfortunately. even if caleb and evelyn are explicitly stated as having a romantic relationship, luz being paralleled to evelyn doesn’t have to mean that she gets to be hunter’s romantic partner. there’s intentionality in luz meeting hunter after she gets a crush on amity, which leads me to believe that hunter was absolutely never meant to be seen as a possible LI for luz (the “sibling-like” interactions also contribute to that) as canon stands right now. like i said, i’ll take the L on that.
however i still feel that this should’ve been pointed out in the show, since the imagery is purposeful in linking luz and evelyn together. like i said on my review of the show, i feel like an easy fix to the boring dynamic between hunter and willow should’ve been to make hunter crush on luz instead. IMO, that’s the easiest way of following through the parallels without putting luz into a dumb love triangle: let her have her endgame with amity as hunter grows out of his crush and considers luz as a loving platonic companion. that way, it avoids the problem of making hunter betray belos just because he’s crushing on a witch. but, y’know, there are options beyond what we can already do with canon.
so, what’s the verdict?
i’ll be completely honest with you and say i fell completely in love with luz and hunter’s dynamic and was actively seeking their [romantic] endgame. as i said in the beginning, i love me a great, narratively compelling pairing, and luz and hunter fill the quota to perfection. whereas eda and raine do nothing with their complicated backstory (read my review for more thoughts on them), luz and hunter connection is implemented really well in canon and there’s a very compelling back-and-forth as they figure themselves out. unlike amity, hunter is crucial in the plot (amity only gets her parents’ business, which is not even that impactful either). and unlike willow, luz has a very defined dynamic with hunter that has evolved as the plot progresses.
just… part of me wonders if luz and hunter not being together is yet again part of the trope deconstruction. you expect luz and hunter to get together? sike! they get other LIs that aren’t half as interesting as what they could be together. and what annoys me is that the show could’ve done the same with belos: imagine if the show found a quick replacement for belos as the new big bad that’s not even half as interesting as the emperor, just for the sake of subverting expectations. and before you tell me “ummm, the collector?”, by now it’s clear that belos continues to be the big bad, since he’s now back in action manipulating the collector once again.
i just really, genuinely wish the show was able to go through a main ship comparable to luz and hunter’s potential together. like, if the representation is so important in the story, then make hunter a girl! like, i don’t know. there’s just unlimited potential in lunter. they’re foils to each other (both believed they were put in roles by a greater force and great things were waiting for them, only to realize that was a lie/a fantasy); they’re both deeply integral to the plot; they’re characters that challenge each other and become better people because of that; their dynamic grows and transforms due to their connection to the larger story; they’re paralleled to the couple that kickstarted this whole conflict to begin with; extremely long etcetera.
as canon stands right now, i’m very unsatisfied with luz and hunter’s romantic endgames. that won’t stop me from appreciating and loving the potential of a lunter endgame. however, potential is the key word here. in a world where they were meant to end up together, this show would’ve been a lot better as a narrative. it’s a shame that it isn’t, and i will mourn that forever.
[also. luz and hunter have the delicious size difference that lumity is lacking :)]
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disregardcanon · 2 years ago
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okay so i don’t WANT a locked tomb au for the owl house, but hoo boy does my brain try to lump all my most recent fixations together. so, a few details
1. hunter and belos are from the eighth house. you know, the one that sucks the life force out of cavaliers just cuz. you’ll never guess who’s the cavalier here.
2. lilith is one of the first lyctors. her cav killed herself so that lilith would HAVE to ascend, and while it eats lilith up inside, she knows it was for the best. (all of the rest of the necros have gone through with it and ascended now). except, of course, eda. who’s still clutching raine’s living hand like a lifeline, and who lilith has heard whispering about... packing up with raine and fleeing the houses entirely.
so lilith kills raine, and offers eda the choice to either lose them entirely or ascend. and it’s.... it’s fucking awful. but what other choice is there now? there’s just ways to numb the pain and to try to cling to the sister that she loves so dearly, even after everything that lily did to her.
3. gus is the necro from the fourth, which is why he and mattholomule are so incomprehensibly young. neither of them were really supposed to be there. gus had older cousins; his dad wasn’t even in charge of the fourth until he was five or so! but his dad’s older siblings died and then his cousins died and suddenly, gus is the necromatic heir and he’s not a kid anymore he’s a necro with a cav and battle experience and he doesn’t know how to deal with any of it. matt’s older brother, steve, was the cav to gus’s last older, necromatic cousin.
it’s supposed to be an honor, serving with the heir to the house, but with how many of them have dropped dead in the past year, it’s hard for matty to think of it as anything but a death sentence. (steve thought he’d be the first cav of this generation to see an heir through to proper adulthood... but he wasn’t. he barely saw matt through cav training before he was blown up trying to protect the necro that didn’t make it out anyway)
but gus is... nice. and they share the same interests, and he isn’t mean to matt about not being tough or strong or old enough. gus keeps promising him that he’s not going to get treated like bria, the absolutely AWFUL necro he trained with before gus came of age and they met up and meshed instead.
and they both uphold that as well as they can as thirteen year old boys. but they’re still a necro and cav, and that dynamic is doomed from the start.
4. ed and em are coronabeth and ianthe from the third. they are the richest and most influential house. ed isn’t a necromancer, just like coronabeth. amity is the younger, cavless necro sister who their mother forces to tag along because “the emperor requested our heir and our cavalier primary! there’s NO reason that amity couldn’t learn a thing or two to bring back, directly, to the third house. right, amity dear?”
amity is tired of living in her siblings’ shadows and is going to learn what she can and sabotage them.
5. willow is something approximating ACTUAL dulcinea from the seventh house, and in true seventh fashion, she’s dying. she’s been dying since she was born, basically. she’s very strong but tries to restrain herself from overuse of her powers to preserve her own life and that of others. she thinks that thalergy is a better source than thanergy and is running experiments to see if she positively affect plants.
boscha is her cav because boscha is The Best In Their Age Cohort TM but they do not, on any level, get along. boscha thinks that she’s weak and that she can bully willow into being a “better” necro or at least just fucking dying already. it’s... ugly. willow has the social power in the relationship and is VERY powerful at necromancy, but with her kind disposition and lack of inclination to use those powers... oof.
6.  luz isn’t a necro, and she isn’t a cav... she’s a dav’s caughter when her mom gets called away with her necro, the current master warden of the sixth house.
“luz, this is my job.”
“but you could get hurt!”
her mother sighs. “which is my job, mija.”
“you’re a sixth cav!” luz protests, “you weren’t even supposed to see combat! ever!” camilla noceda learned everything that she possibly could so that she could fight her way into the program and offered Outside Knowledge TM to the scholars, which combined with her abilities and ties to the warden are the only things keeping her position stable. 
(luz’s mother hates that she’s taken it up as well, but she can’t really blame her. luz is SO clever and so creative, but so much of the sixth house is dedicated to the parts of academia that are difficult for her. maintaining her position requires something like this... which doesn’t make it less painful to her mother.)
“you can’t leave me here,” luz begs. her mother is the only person who has ever been kind to her. as a teenage refugee from the world outside the houses, THIS camilla was basically only able to get clearance to stay by becoming a cavalier. and she did, but luz is strange and impulsive and silly and only HALF house, and it makes it so that even though her life should be easier than her mother’s... it isn’t.
so luz stows away on the ship to try to protect her mom from Whatever the Fuck Lyctorhood Looks Like, and if not at least go to live with her. the emperor is in charge of everything. he can make some room for a lyctor’s DAUGHTER
her mother doesn’t find out about her stowing away until they’re already at caanan house, and by that point, it’s too late to send someone back.
her mother tries to misdirect her and keep her out of whatever’s happening, luz ends up doing research with a group of friends who come very close to lyctorhood... and figuring out that it’s not something anyone... ANYONE... should actually want.
the gang who decide LyctorHood Is Bad DON’T DO IT PLEASE: hunter who would like not to get literally eaten on top of the things that his uncle already puts him through, willow who thinks that’s an awful thing to do to a person and has never wanted the relationship she has to have with bosha, amity who at this point is more invested in making sure that her siblings don’t Become Saints more than any issue of morality, luz who is doing her research and trying to talk her mom into Not Doing That WHAT THE FUCK, and then gus and matt who are thirteen and just don’t want to die, dear god.
willow and hunter keep sneaking away from their partners who keep trying to Do More Of This Nonsense and then end up... accidentally doing More Of This Nonsense. but like. together and consensually. (hunter: i’m already a battery! i don’t mind being one for you instead <3 willow: oh god oh no oh SHIT)
luz and amity Accidentally a cavnecro bond, but they refuse to do any of the tests because luz has seen how much it’s been taking out of her mom and amity wants to beat her siblings, but god she’s not THAT desperate. she kinda likes this perky little swordwielding weirdo, and they both have a very specific fantasy series of books that they like in addition to studying necrocav things. (yes, there is a good witch azura in the nine houses. because i say so!)
the people cytherea kills: both of the early twenties girls from the second, em’s cav from third, matt while he and gus are separated, the real grownups from the fifth, camilla and the warden from the sixth (rip but this is not a story with parents). cytherea and her cav stand ins are from the ninth here. I PRAY THE TOMB STAYS LOCKED FOREVER BITCH (i had my fingers crossed)
when we get to the end and know what’s going on, kinda, we get one full lyctor. this combo comes from... belos and boscha. they each realized their partner was avoiding them to work together. and NEITHER of them were giving up on this dream. so. uh. in the end belos kills boscha for lyctorhood and to join cytherea’s Whatever She Was Doing. and boscha was happier with that solution than she EVER was with willow’s “please stop trying to die for me”.
with em’s cav dead already, even if she wanted to go full ianthe, she couldn’t.... except ed offers, and em goes WHAT THE FUCK and then. they do not do that. (hunter does though. he throws himself on a sword to give his life force to willow full griddlehark style).
willow ends up lobotomizing herself enough to keep hunter from getting destroyed, but it puts her at a serious disadvantage. while she doesn’t owe belos any favors because he didn’t help, he still hates her for “stealing” hunter and also completing his feat and diluting the credit that he gets and the attention. 
while belos and willow are carted off by OG lyctors and jod himself, the rest of the gang are captured by the blood of eden. ed decides to do a corona and join up, as is his right as the non-necromatic twin forced to pretend about it. gus isn’t either old enough or patriotic enough to be judith deuteros wholesale, but he IS a deeply powerful necromancer who’s traumatized by the loss of his cav, his new friends, imprisonment and *gestures to everything*. plus, his mind, necromancy, and maybe a resurrection beast are all attacking him. so. that’s FUN
luz and amity at least get off easier than cam and pal do in canon because they are in their own bodies and luz doesn’t have to go on a Skull Hunt TM, but it’s still not great for them being POWs.
while ed is mainly Being Corona, he isn’t fully on that side. he’s continuing to play along that amity is a fellow cav and that em and gus are the only necromancers that the blood of eden has in its possession. they want a LYCTOR to study, but they aren’t getting one.
probably. at least not now.
7.  not entirely sure how it would work because this is a half-baked textpost au but i feel like the collector as jod, a more feral and hurting version of king as alecto and bby normal king as nona would work... very very well. ESPECIALLY with lumity in their own bodies and raine! in eda’s body baby sitting a very confused little king... in willow park’s body.
willow and hunter are holding hands in a river bubble. it’s fine!
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ladysunamireads · 2 years ago
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Ive Been Having a Hard Time Adjusting
ive been having a hard time adjusting by lumityhaze
"Here I was considering you my best friend just for you to say we're not even friends."
"Would you say we're close? Friends, maybe." Amity said. "Not saying I don't like you or anything, we've just not really talked."
"That is exactly why we're eating ice cream, crying and gossiping right now.” … Amity and Hunter have a talk a few weeks after they arrive at the human realm.
Words: 5833, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: The Owl House (Cartoon)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: F/F, F/M
Characters: Amity Blight, Hunter | The Golden Guard, Luz Noceda, Willow Park, Camila Noceda
Relationships: Amity Blight/Luz Noceda, Hunter | The Golden Guard/Willow Park, Amity Blight & Hunter | The Golden Guard
Additional Tags: Lesbian Amity Blight, Bisexual Hunter | The Golden Guard, Amity Blight and Hunter | The Golden Guard Are Siblings, Title from a Taylor Swift Song, Episode: s03e01 Thanks to Them
Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/46836961
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New fic alert!
so i know i have wips to post but.... i wrote a sequel to missing someone a world away.
Summary:
A sequel to missing someone a world away, now back in the demon realm, Gus and Matt are reunited but have to deal with the emotions that come from being separated for months and, in Matt's case, thinking that everyone you care about most was dead.
Word count: 1,622
Rating:
General Audiences
Archive Warning:
No Archive Warnings Apply
Category:
M/M
Fandom:
The Owl House (Cartoon)
Relationships:
Mattholomule/Gus Porter
Hunter | The Golden Guard & Gus Porter
Characters:
Gus Porter
Mattholomule (The Owl House)
Hunter | The Golden Guard (The Owl House)
Willow Park
Luz Noceda
Amity Blight
Skara (The Owl House)
Additional Tags:
Episode: s03e02 For the Future (The Owl House)
Not Canon Compliant
Bisexual Gus Porter
Hunter | The Golden Guard and Gus Porter are Siblings (The Owl House)
Gay Mattholomule (The Owl House)
Mattholomule Needs a Hug (The Owl House)
Hurt/Comfort
Emotional Hurt/Comfort
Light Angst
Wordcount: 1.000-5.000
Not Beta Read
Big Brother Hunter | The Golden Guard (The Owl House)
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mellowsmuses · 1 year ago
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(MY) King Clawthorne Headcanons
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He's a plushie klepto-maniac keep your stuffies close!
2. He's growing a little more each day but is concerned he will probably outlive all his friends.
3. He's a big mama's boy and Eda wants to make her proud with his crimes and being her backup in any sticky situation.
4. King gets jealous when others take his sister away to do teenager-related activities. but he will not harm them or put them in danger he's learned his lesson.
5. Edric is one of his favorite people to discuss feelings of inequity and insecurities. He does call him "Blight Brother" a lot because he does want him to think of him like a brother!
6. King calls Emira "Blight Sister" not only because Emira is also too close to Eda, but because he doesn't want to leave her out on the nicknames.
7. Speaking with Emira is easy for him because he enjoys her chaotic and funny nature. [bonus] King is known to cling to people he's attached to especially when sleepy.
8. Willow's lap is one of his favorite places to curl up and nap.
9. Gus and King are a deadly duo don't let them hatch plans together.
10. Amity and King have a "Rocky" relationship to say the least at least at the start. He does hold the cupcake thing over her head, but it's more of a teasing water-under-the-bridge joke for him now.
11. King calls Matty gay and laughs at him just to get a reaction out of the uptight and snidey boy.
12. King Clawthorne is maturing each day he and Steve have deep conversations about life.
13. King is quick to give Steve a high-high (jump) five when he thinks he's found a girlfriend.
14. King bothers Katya by suggesting she watch food documentaries where they shred the vegetables into chips.
15. King asks lots of questions to Katya about her vampire heritage because he often confuses her about a royal heritage.
16. In an AU King plays pranks on (an alternate Luz) Luna a lot, because he wants to be close to her and just can't find the right words.
17. King tells Willow she should plant hydrangeas and start a ARMY.
18. King will cause a lot of trouble and hide behind Luz, but he can't fool Eda!
19. King is a shoulder demon if your shoulder is vacant and your close by he will climb onto your shoulder.
20. King climbs all over Boscha like a jungle gym just to make her play tag with him!
21. Hunter is his favorite person to get scratches to his belly from (besides Luz) that's Rare
22. If Boscha's too tired to yell or shout at him or she's sick. He will actually curl up by her and keep her warm.
23. King learns by example and he pays a lot of attention to Blight Siblings and Hunter (Wasp) in how to go absolutely feral.
24. King will become Gus and Willow's fanboy when they do the powerful glowing eyes.
25. King will visit Alador while he's working and bring him a bagged lunch.
26. King tries to help Emira with her hair braid but winds up getting stuck while mid-braiding stuck to her head in the braid.
27. King gets visits from the collector on special weekends they have a really strong best friend bond.
30. Stringbean is King's new little sister! 31. Eda is his favorite person!!!
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toh-tagteam-au · 2 years ago
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Tag Team AU Synopsis – Pre-Canon Events
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Alright! Let's get started. This is the beginning of a Very Boring Blow-By-Blow Explanation of the whole Tag Team AU.
Luz falls into the water of the Old Gravesfield cemetery at age 7. Her dad had just died a few days prior – noteworthy because she has not read the first Azura book yet. The water is infused with Titan’s blood, and she is shunted to the demon realm. 
Luz finds herself in the woods near the Emperor’s castle during a storm, and she quickly finds out this place is out to get her. She learns to run first and ask questions later, at least until a 9 year-old Hunter discovers her on a mission. The basilisks broke out during the storm, so the coven has all hands on deck hunting them down. 
Luz and Hunter quickly become friends, once Luz realizes he’s not going to eat her skin. Hunter sneaks her food during the next few days until actual coven scouts find her hiding out. They bring her back to the castle, thinking she’s a basilisk in disguise, and she is brought before Emperor Belos. Hunter sees her brought in, and quickly comes to her defense saying that she’s harmless. 
Belos, confronted with a human for the first time in centuries, immediately locks onto how quickly Hunter comes to her aid. Seeing an opportunity to maybe have a successful grimwalker clone of Caleb this time around, he takes Luz in and gives Hunter full responsibility for her, just as Caleb did for Philip. He lies and says he will look for a way to get Luz back home, but until then she has to keep the fact that she is human a secret – who knows what witches will do to her if they find out what she is.
Hunter does not take this well, and his and Luz’s relationship sours quickly as they’re forced to stay together.
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It isn’t until Belos tells Luz around the one-year mark that it may be impossible for Luz to get back home, that Hunter and Luz start actually getting along – Hunter realizes how terrible he has been to her, and Luz starts putting down roots. It’s also around this time that Eberwolf meets Luz and gifts her Backup, the gildersnake. (He probably would have been named stringbean if I had written this part post season 3.)
Meanwhile, Vee successfully escapes the Emperor’s Coven on the day Luz arrives and eventually makes her way to Eda the Owl Lady, who takes her in. Eda worries about Vee being in danger in the Boiling Isles, especially with Eda’s not-very-low profile, and she doesn’t get a solution until one of her ventures into the human realm, where she is suddenly held at bat-point by Camila. 
Camila is heartbroken, having lost her husband and her daughter in the span of a week, and she still believes that Luz is still out there. Especially when she sees a strange woman appear in town doing strange things, and disappearing into a houseless door. After tracking her down to the old abandoned shack, she jumps Eda and demands/pleads for help finding her daughter in the witch’s world. Eda agrees to look for Luz, and asks for help with her Vee situation in return. They make a deal: Camila takes Vee in, and Eda comes by every week or so with updates on if she has found Luz + Vee’s magic food.
Back to the siblings: Luz has been raised as a scout alongside Hunter. She rediscovers Azura at age 10 (Hunter age 12), and organizes a small book club with other coven scouts. Through many shenanigans, it turns into a blown out shipping war that splits the coven apart for 3 months. It only ends when Belos publicly chastises Luz, restricts her creative work, and bans Azura from the castle.
(Link to the Azura Incident fanfic can be found here.)
Hunter, realizing the power and creativity that Luz has from this incident, confronts her. He’s been trying to think of a way to use wild magic to heal Belos, and he wants her help. She accepts immediately, because if there’s a way to save a father figure in her life she’s going to try her hardest. She eventually learns her first glyph with Hunter: Light. 
Over the course of the next few years, Luz and Hunter find the rest of the elemental glyphs, they are officially made into the Golden Guards, and they start experimenting with glyph combos. There’s the Iced-Over Conformatorium Incident, where they create the Super Glyph (the one Eda made in Escaping Expulsion) and have to deconstruct it under pressure while it takes over the Conformatorium, and the Smoke-Bomb Incident, where they try to combine different magic items with the smoke combo glyph to see if Belos could inhale their magic essence that way. They don’t get caught either time, but Lilith strongly suspects it’s them.
Hunter also gets his magic staff when he becomes a Golden Guard, although Luz is told she isn’t old enough to wield one yet. This holds up until she turns 14 – the same age Hunter was when he got his staff – and she is still told that she can’t have one. 
This is where the comic starts. You guys know this to a degree already. Luz and Hunter make a deal with Eda to learn wild magic. Hunter takes Luz’s place in canon, etc etc. Everything up until the end of Teenage Abomination was written in comic form which is WAY COOLER THAN THIS. IF YOU DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON READ THE COMIC RIGHT NOW. HERE'S THE FIRST PART.
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perrypixel · 3 years ago
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Being a lunter shipper and trying to discern if this certain Luz and Hunter content is shippy or not is like playing a game of dating or siblings
why is the fandom like this
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