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i need icp to be cannon in the dc universe just for the fact that i think them being questioned about the joker in interviews would be hilarious. like hear me out
interviewer: so you guys dress up like clowns and rap about killing people,,,, sounds kinda like the joker,,, thoughts on him??
icp: fuck that guy. we existed first, like the clown schtick was ours FIRST. and yeah we sing about killing bad people. like chomos. like people deserve to die. not innocent people. and we don’t actually DO it. honestly if they gave us an hour in a room alone with the guy there would be no more fucking “clown prince of crime” what a bitch boy. ruining our rep and shit. *continues on hating on joker for a solid 15 min*
like honestly they hate him so much it comes to the point it’s a meme. i like to think eventually one of the bats(probs dick bc i hc that he is the most petty and hates the joker more than anybody else,yes even jason, because he grew up knowing clown code and joker pisses him off bc circus reasons) only plays a song icp wrote dissing joker on reapeat every time they have to fight joker. like to the point if gotham citizens hear the song they start going tf home because they are not dealing with the clown’s bs.
#dc universe#batfam#icp#they hate joker with a passion#and so does dick#so if he didn’t like icp before he does after they drop a diss on joker#idk just random thought i have at night bc why not
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i hate them with a burning passion
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#(a burning passion that they have for each other)#look at them!!#they are so soft and so husbands and so ugh#i hate them (lovingly)#nace jordan#jan peteh#jance#janace#joker out
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I think what bothers me about ppl being surprised at removing the misogyny or making aang be responsible from the start instead of running away is that this is literally fandom trends representing themselves. Like when characters have to grow y’all run to downplay what they have to grow from! STICK WITH ME FANDOM SHIFT this is what bothers me so much about fanon Harley Quinn. Like if Harley never enjoyed or felt free or whatever with joker why are you calling her post relationship arc a redemption? Even back to heroics if bruce was never an asshole or close minded or ham fisted when it came to his kids where do you think the other identities started? What do you think their relationship is growing from? Like it’s so boring lmao
#And then you’ll create negativity that never existed as long as it keeps everything normal#no bruce was never suspicious of his precious baby Jason 🥺#dick hated him with a passion tho!#like ok. get off Twitter.#get off ao3.#pls and thank you#And the Harley one makes me sick bc I adore Harleys redemption especially as a character MADE for joker breaking out and becoming her own#but then y’all are like ‘well she was never BAD! she was manipulated and brainwashed the whole time! and never contributed to anything#significant!’#what is the redemption y’all are speaking of?#THIS IS ZUKOS FAULT#sorry I’m not getting into my opinion on his entire redemption#but like. he was the prime example of perfect victim#and that’s not BAD or whatever I think the progression of his arc was great#I just think y’all overstate ‘redemption’#but not even Zuko Iroh! the way y’all collectively forgot or ignored that he SUCKED!#sorry I swear I ranted to my brother about this for an hour this morning actually#but I forgot every name I pulled#but in conclusion this redemption that’s not rlly redemption cause my fave was never bad thing is soooo#IK i shit on tim but Jason Stans step forward please#I was gonna say Damian but the reason I’m not is bc god forbid y’all actually let him redeem himself#like he feels so much guilt and remorse and y’all are like ‘the haughty princeling wanted poor wittle Drake DEAD at every turn’#also he was ten#and yknow what I think bothers a lot of ppl#that even through the remorse he acknowledges that he was a child and doesn’t allow for the adults in his life to just skate by while he#wallows. which is what I’m sure so many of y’all would prefer to see as per ao3#but no Damian does actually demand accountability from everyone involved including but not limited to himself!#but also I do adore his redemption arc bc yeah he did do that shit and it sucked#however I will never discuss it with fandom ppl who can barely name two of his friends that aren’t Jon. maybe they’ll know Colin and maya i#if they’re really about it…
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*sipping my water*
I like Jared Leto’s Joker.
#feels like everyone I see these days hate it with a passion#weird flex 🥴#I have yet to see a Joker I don’t love tbh#maybe I’m just not picky 🧍🏻
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Guys,, what if this strangely-mysterious owl who seems set on phantom thieving ways and can turn into a vehicle and knows stuff about phantom thieving isn't only a parallel to Morgana but actually knows him, like, pre-amnesia days? Maybe they set out together to recruit thieves to take down yaldy, but got separated by the grails machinations, and then the world made a hard-reset a la Persona 2 and only Luffy remembers?? (As of present)
I just,, want dialogue between the resident mascot-vehicles
Luffy be like: Morgana!! Brother! It's good to see you again, I see you've been recruiting your own Thieves! :D
And Mona be like: ??? Whomst,, the fuck??
#persona 5#persona 5 x#persona 5 phantom x#p5 r#joker#wonder#luffy#morgana#also god i hate that is name is luffy#please localize it as lufiel or something#i cannot get one piece out of my mind because of the name otherwise#but! i do love the owl#10/10 would cuddle#and as always i hate his alternate/ bipedal sprite with a passion#but at least his proportions look more natural than Mona's
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I love the idea of getting to work with sega for something sonic related one day like designing characters and doing illustrations for them and stuff
But then I remember. The Fandom
#ramblings#if my creations are forced to get the attention of the fandom at large bc they're part of something official#and ppl start spewing out shit takes or god forbid sexualize the characters i make who would most likely be teens#i think i'd start killing#that would be my joker moment#i love the circle of ppl i follow in this fandom but there's such large parts of it that i hate with a burning passion#i hope i never have to actually engage with those parts of the fandom ever#though i know that's inevitable if i want to actually work with the franchise#uggghh#neg
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Started a post comparing the Messner-Loebs Flash and WW runs and their successes and failures (imo) in portraying certain themes and their similarities to each other but it started getting long and im a very slow tumblr post writer so that's a meta for another day. I do have what I think are well formed opinions on this and I'm fresh off of reading both runs so you guys are not allowed to let me forget abt writing this all up okay. Okay.
#many thoughts on why the “poverty arc” (bad name but cant think of a better one atm) works in flash but doesnt at all in ww#and how it relates to how people irl find themselves in that position and the relationship of that to support networks#also thoughts abt similar issues like flash 33 and ww 64. and also WML's weird fixation with the joker#and how his runs on both differ in their relationship with the run before (baron w flash and pérez w wonder woman) and how he follows up#blah#but yeah dont let me forget to lay all my thoughts out professionally abt this while theyre still relatively fresh#anyways sidenote legally obligated to say I HATE MICAH RAINES (of wml's ww) SO MUCH#HES LIKE ED INDELICATO BUT WORSE. W O R S E. DO YOU KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS FOR ME TO SAY OKAY#like i hated indelicato so much only for them to introduce literally the same guy but worse. and then have him work w wondy and her be the#muscle of his sketchy ass business. groan#also need to make it clear that i do despise indelicato. im the number 1 pérez run girlie (self proclaimed) but i do hate that character w a#burning passion. so annoying. my saving grace is that he never dated diana. he had his little crush and all the 90s readers in the letter#section kept trying to push it but thank god they never got together#would actually have to shoot myself if that happened actually
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Gothamites are left confused over the seemingly insane children because normally people don’t like Gotham unless they are from Gotham and mostly due to pride. “Oh they won’t like it as much when they come face to face with a rogue.”
then it just cuts to Danny going feral on Joker for the singular sin of being a creepy clown with *bad energy*.
Suddenly the child harness he was trapped in for over half the trip seems to have an actual reason.
DPXDC prompt. Field trip.
Some people would call gothamites petty, but given that most of the USA population treated them as scum, they believed that their behavior was justified.
They didn't like tourists, to put it mildly. Therefore, after learning that in their city were people on a field trip from Amity Park who could not leave Gotham for several days due to weekly escape from Arkham, the news channel immediately decided that a short interview from the guests would definitely amuse the locals. The reaction of outsiders never ceases to be ridiculous.
Reporter: ~Good afternoon~ Gotham News! May I ask you to share what you liked most about our wonderful city?
Mr. Lancer*still in a cold sweat and looks at every passerby as a potential villain*: Uh, no, me..It's so unexpected. Well, first of all, people here are very…
Danny *is high after the tasting samples Dr. Crane gave him for free and is extremely eager to share his happiness with others*,* picks a microphone*.
Danny: Gotham is the best city in the world! Like seriously, damn, I'd like to die here. Although there are constant shootings somewhere, half the time people don't even shoot at me! I haven't been this relaxed since middle school! And in the evenings, there is often such a pleasant scent of fear and despair on the streets. This fear toxin of yours is a real miracle! It's sooo good!
Sam *decides to take the initiative in her own hands before Fenton says too much*: Personally, I am very pleased with the number of green spaces you have in your city. It's nice to see that here eco-activists are really being listened to. Also, the fact that most restaurants have a thoughtful menu for vegetarians left a very pleasant impression.
Dash in his favorite T-shirt "it's not gay if he's dead": Four words. Hips of Red Hood. The fact that it is not marked in the guidebook as the main attraction of the Crime Alley is a real crime. This dude clearly never skips leg days. My respect.
Tucker: What can I say? The speed of internet here, even during villains attacks, is absolutely unbelievable. I don't want to leave this place.
Jazz: I love Gotham! Finally, I was able to buy all the works published by Dr. Harleen Quinzel. *girl picks up an impressive stack of books* For some reason, they are not available online.
The camera points at a red-haired guy with a twitching eye.
Wes: I'm 85% sure Bruce Wayne is Batman. I have a proof and I am ready to provide it.
A girl with a "Good Guess" pin from Riddler enters and takes camera away from conspiracy theorist.
Star: Sorry, he slipped out at night and went to look for problems. Again. Don't pay any attention to him. He's always like this when he drinks more than two energy drinks in a row.
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The Phantom Triplets open a cafe in Gotham
they all take turns as cashier so they can mess with Karens
Danny works as cook, Danny fills the food he makes with passion to give people warm feelings of home and love, while also providing motivation and confidence to do the thing
Dani is in charge of the coffee, filling it with energy and excitement rather than caffeine, effectively creating a healthy coffee, with all the good flavor, and wakefulness you want, and none of the bad effects as the energy wears off gradually
Dan is in charge of pastries and bread, he loves absolutely pounding the bread as well as rolling it out, it’s therapeutic, he fills everything he makes with just a little bit of rage so that the flavor can still be exciting every time you eat it
they are all very much gremlins, but also very nice, like a group of crows you befriended, they will absolutely rock the shit of any rouge that tries to attack their cafe or any regulars of theirs
They could also be the batfam’s favorites, or their worst enemies, cause they’re offering cheap, tasty, healthy food, and feeding the poor, but also refusing to elaborate on how
Red Hood loves them though, since they all hate the Joker with a burning passion, are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, aren’t a front, and love to mess with Batman whenever they get a chance
#dp x dc prompt#dp x dc#dpxdc#dcxdp#red hood#batman#batfam#dani phantom#dan phantom#chaos gremlin danny#danny fenton
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Enemies to lovers, but he never hates you. He's so in love with you it hurts. He's never rude to you, just a little arrogant, teasing, and flirtatious. He wants you to be only his. He scares away every boy who has the audacity to be near you. He snarls at every girl who tries to approach him, so you wouldn't think that he has an interest in anyone but you. You, on the other hand, are boiling with anger. This bastard. This jerk. How dare he make your heart beats faster. How dare he make you blush after some stupid remark about your appearance. How dare he stand here so tall, so strong, so handsome, so sexy, and look at you with such love and adoration. How dare he kiss you with such passion after another fight and make an absolute mess of you. How dare he come to your apartment in the middle of the night. How dare he make love to you, worship you, make you scream his stupid name. How dare he stay with you and make you the best breakfast in the morning. How dare he make you so happy and loved that from now on, you feel safe only in his arms.
Windbreaker: Sangho Choi, Wooin, Hajun (Joker), Owen Knight, Vinny Hong, Hwangyeon Choi, Hyuk Kwon, Harry Shepherd, Ryohei
Lookism: Vin Jin, Jake Kim, Samuel Seo, Han Sinu, Olly Wang, Xiaolong, Kim Goo, Gun Park, Ma Taesoo, Hudson Ahn, Seongji Yuk
Get Schooled: Na Hwajin, Lee Junbin
Guard Pass: Jason, Son Do-Hyun
masterlist
#windbreaker x reader#windbreaker#lookism x reader#lookism#sangho x reader#sangho choi x reader#windbreaker wooin x reader#wooin x reader#joker x reader#joker windbreaker#windbreaker joker x reader#owen knight x reader#sangho choi#vinny hong x reader#hwangyeon choi x reader#windbreaker ryohei#harry shepherd#vin jin x reader#jake kim x reader#samuel seo x reader#gun park x reader#get schooled#hwajin na x reader#guard pass#vinny hong#hwangyeon choi#windbreaker hwangyeon x reader#hwajin na#olly wang#hyuk kwon
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So I just re blogged a post that made me think about this.
All the batboys look more like their moms than their fathers in some way.
Tim and Jason HATE IT with a burning passion. Both for different reasons of course. Tim (as the post that inspired this) is hauntingly beautiful. Just like his mother was and he is so thankful he wasn’t born a girl because he knows he would hate his looks even more than he does now.
Jason literally died because of her, she sold him off to the joker for a chance to escape. This man has MOTHER ISSUES in the biggest block letters you can imagine. Dick made the mistake of saying “she’s obviously who you get your good looks from.” And Jason refused to speak to him for weeks.
Dick will never admit it but he’s forgotten what his parents looked like before they died, he says he looks like the perfect mix of both of them when in reality he’s his mothers carbon copy and he just doesn’t remember it.
Damian is the child that actually looks like a perfect mix of his parents. He looks like a young Bruce but when standing next to Talia a lot of people would say he just looks like a masculine version of her. He takes pride in it and secretly loves it when Bruce makes a comment like “you look so much like your mom when you make that face.”
Bruce knows he looks like his mom, he just refuses to admit it. For years after she died he would see himself in the mirror and see her and it physically pained him. Now when he looks in the mirror, he sees Damian.
#jason todd#dick grayson#batfam#tim drake#batfamily#bruce wayne#damian wayne#the mother issues are mother issuing#is that a word?#idk
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"You do it for the kids?" The commissioner asked.
"Yes?" Joker said.
"Than why did you BRUTALLY MURDER ROBIN?!"
“Because of your work we’ve managed to get Bruce Wayne to donate billions this year”. The Joker and others all sigh. Getting beat up day after day just to keep the charity money coming and keep the psycho Wayne feeling like Gotham needs him. “We do it for the kids commissioner”, the clown said.
#writers#writing prompts#I really hate the Joker with a PASSION thanks to Death in The Family Killing Joke and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
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If I was DC screenwriter I think people would hate me
Cus I’m pulling out all the stops
Dick Grayson with anger issues who absolutely is not a golden retriever (that man will purposely target your occipital bone with his escrima) but does value his family over anything and loves them fiercely (even when they give him a heart attack)
Jason Todd the sunshine robin who’s really passionate which leads to his “extreme anger” Yes he’s a theatre nerd and he does listen to Jane Austen but that’s not his entire personality.
Cassandra Cain can speak.
*ducks away from window* Tim Drake is not a short king who is extremely sleep deprived and needs coffee to function. His smarts rival Bruce’s and he hates coffee, likes Mountain Dew a normal amount, and is sleep deprived but he takes power naps cus he plays into the corporate king role. He’s taller than Dick (cus that’s funny) and he’s missing a spleen but he blew up all the Lazarus pits so he does not care. Also he has commitment issues (mans cannot keep a girl or boy)
Duke Thomas is not the “normal one” he’s just as crazy as the rest of em and if you think he’s not it’s because you’ve fallen into his trap. The boy started a revolution and is the only meta Batman has pardoned (😝 Clark)
Damian is a precocious, traumatized, kinda mean, child. But he’s still a child, he can’t see over the counter at the doctor’s office, he wants his mom and dad together, and he loves being loved. Yeah he’s a bit of a brat but his grandfather is royalty and his father is Gotham’s dark prince; he’s allowed to be a bit pretentious. He’s a good kid and he had some bad influences but He is good.
Bruce Wayne doesn’t collect child soldiers, he is not physically abusive (physically, cus he’s had some moments) He won’t kill joker because the thin line that keeps that little boy in the alley sane is his fragile moral code. His kids were his kids first (with the exception of Tim😭) he would stop if he could, but because he can’t; he trains them.
Talia Al Ghul is not a rapist and she does love her son (the way she knows how).
Alfred Pennyworth is immortal🥰
(I’m aware I left some members off but these are just my main takes)
#the girls get one line and the boys get paragraphs😭😭😭#I’m sorry I just gotta get the big things for them cus I could on and on about how this fandom treats them#Talia was abused and while it doesn’t excuse what she put her baby through sometimes it explains why her worldview is skewed#dc fandom#dc fanon#batfamily#batfam#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#damian wayne#tim drake#talia al ghul#cassandra cain#alfred pennyworth
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edit: the title is Beyond Black and White AU! ^^ Moon helps the city under cover, just like a real superhero should! And Sun is Joker&Dr.Horrible as Moon's nemesis! It's an enemies to lovers :D
Details: Moon bears resemblance to Batman, but not as gloomy. He goes by the name Drop as a superhero, and has an adopted daughter named Amy. Moon often visits the police station due to his work, having a direct business relationship with the police chief, Eclipse. Amy frequently accompanies her father to the police and usually just hangs out with the other colleagues while her father and the police chief converse.
Moon is a great father, but inept in romantic relationships, and has never been able to keep anyone for long. Having had no luck so far, he has given up on having someone else in his life. He used to be an assassin, but when he amassed enough money, he quit. He hates crime, but blood on his hands even more. When he adopted Amy, he swore to himself that he wouldn't kill anyone else.
Dr. Sun, or as the world knows him, Dr. Rise, is a graduated genius. Sun grew tired of humanity being trapped in the clutches of capitalism while slowly destroying the forests around it. Sun wants to create creatures by crossbreeding humans and plants that will find a balance between the two species. He was once very passionate about his work, but the truth is, he is incredibly burnt out and only does what he does for the sake of attention. He's incredibly lonely, avoided by everyone because of his bad reputation. The only entertaining thing in his life is Moon, who prevents him from hitting rock bottom. After every battle, he becomes so angry that he comes up with new ideas. His plan is to save humanity and defeat Drop.
At least, that's the current concept. To be honest, I was afraid to post this idea because lately I've seen a lot of similar designs to Sun's, and I didn't want any trouble from it. I'm not sure if there's still a superhero AU in the DCA fandom, but if there is, please let me know or reach out if your a creator :D Sorry if there's already a similar concept; I've been thinking about this AU for a few months ^^ it's not going to be a long story as i plan
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the audience reaction to joker 2 is so fucking funny to me because like. apparently the movie itself wasnt great. the musical part wasn't very well executed, it basically only takes place in two settings, all in all it's pretty boring. but more than that a central part of the plot is the main character realizing that his actions have consequences and are ruining people's lives. and it leads to him renouncing his joker persona entirely before getting stabbed and killed in prison. so all the die hard incel fans who saw him as their power fantasy are ALSO upset and the small group of people who could have potentially liked it now hate it with a burning passion and it's now universally agreed that this movie belongs in a dumpster fire but for very different reasons
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The crossdressing also ties into the parallels the story draws between Akiren and Akechi and other secondary characters.
Like, the story clearly is about the relationship between Akiren and Akechi and the fast approaching betrayal, and most secondary characters (who aren't PTs) are mirrors for Akiren, Akechi, or Shido.
There are 2 Akiren/Akechi mirrors who have an affair and go on dates to a fishing pond while one of them is crossdressing, so they get mistaken for 2 men. It ends with the Akechi mirror proposing, but the ring gets swallowed by a fish. AkiRen only manages to catch the fish (and ring) on the one outing to the fishing pond where he invited Akechi as well as the rest of the Phantom Thieves.
(I'm not saying this manga ships shuake, bc it's all subtext, but I'm also not not saying that.)
So yeah, that was a long-winded way of saying the crossdressing is both narratively and thematically relevant, and I love it.
persona 5 the animation WISHES it could give ren the character that rokuro saito does in mementos mission. like nice try but this one's 1000x more interesting, charming, creatively built off the game's canon, and prettier. and also he has an entire chapter dedicated to him crossdressing for like completely no reason and enjoying it so bonus points. extra ass man
#what i like is that mm never treated ren like how fanon does (rant in tags... sorry)#aka the smooth-talking sexyman who flirts with everyone#he's awkward. he's messy. but he's self aware and good at reading people. there is multiple instances where people are like#“ewwwww hes a criminal!!! get him away before he stabs me!!!” and then it shows how completely fucking harmless he actually is#he has glasses and scruffy hair and he takes his cat everywhere. that guy is lame as hell and they embrace it#but he's intuitive and straightforward and brave. he straight up tells akechi that he could quit everything he's doing and change his ways#he tells makoto to run so he can fend off a literal assassin jumping them in the night#all of the protagonists are selfless and care about their friends whatever whatever but i think they all go about it differently#in my head narukami is actually quite self*ish* and its a part of himself he doesnt like (the p4 manga puts emphasis on the fact that he#really hates being alone and has been so all his life. so now hes making up for it)#and i think p1's manga shows that naoya just kind of disregards his own life and thinks everyone else deserves to live more than him#ren does it because sure. hes just some guy. but hes not a coward#and he never will be ever again because thats what he hates most and wants to change about the world#of course theres his moments where he does get scared and that leads to him not talking about his own problems but#can you blame him??? he has ptsd#his persona as joker is the side of him that truly embraces his bravery and unfiltered anger. the only reason he makes such a good leader#for a group of rebels is because he holds the most passion. the most drive. the most HATRED. your protag hates things!#this got off topic. um. mementos mission rocks actually and everyone should go read it#persona 5#< prev tags#mementos mission#subtext#my meta#parallels#shuake#akeshu#meta
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