#thetys

[mer-acle]

(A question for the Slipping through my fingers)

Y know since you mentioned the "Kronos thing" in I have been thinking about other Titans and Titanchomany but mosty about Okeanos and Thethis.

Okeanos is describted as rather calm but still scary Titan (he was neutral during Titanchomany), except that one time he ambushed Poseidons palace for a year (I have the feeling he doesn't like his son in law very much).

And Thethis is describted as a motherly figure and doesn't get herself into trouble.

Idk how you view this but i think that by the time Hera was still under their care she was well cared and possibly bonded with Metis even more since she's their kid, Hera is bassicaly adopted by them, so I imagine that losing Metis like THAT, and to see another child the child of her friend in such state (probably similar to hers and her siblings) stung a little more - besides do the grandparents know what happend to their daughter? Do they keep asking Hera or their "beloved" son in law where the hell she is??? Do they meet the only daughter of their probably one of the eldest daughters if not the oldest? Does Hera bring her to them to meet them? Or after some time they find out...

If you have any thoughts I'd love to hear them

oooh anon you're giving me ideas (Tasha, who literally just said there are too many characters in SltmF already, considering adding more bc juicy)

Immediate fan of Okeanos for this cos I too don't like his son in law lol

I find this super interesting, I will have to do some more research on Okeanus, Thetys and Rhea respectively cos I see a lot of potential there, with Hera's relationship with her parents and foster-parents I think Okeanos and Thetys would def put the pieces together seeing Athena. A daughter of Zeus, who was married to their daughter, and about the same age her child would have to be, AND with her grey eyes? You are not being as sneaky as you think you are, Zeus.

I think I'll have Triton initiate them meeting her, actually. Like, Zeus would not want that to happen, but he has no excuse to forbid it, and they would be Triton's grandparents ( Metis and Amphitrite are sisters so... Triton and Athena are double cousins lol) Especially fun if he doesn't know and just is confused why his grandparents keep asking Athena questions that she keeps deflecting bc she's not meant to talk about her mother and they are all upset and he doesn't know why

[nyxenthusiast]

So apparently in one version Thetys (wife of Oceanus) raised Hera

But also I keep seeing that Hera raised Thetis (the nereid) which is Thetys’s granddaughter and idk I think it’s pretty full circle.

[ilions-end]

dying at the moment in the achilleid when thetis begs poseidon to sink the ship with paris and helen on it to prevent the war that will kill achilles, and he's like "sorry i can't, it's fated. but hey! if it's storms you want, in a few decades you can come help me torment some odysseus guy?" HE'S TRYING TO CHEER HER UP

[thelonelylemonsquare]

Thetis.

[kyleesarthell]

Deidamia and Pyrrhus hanging out with Thetis on the beach :)

[swan2swan]

Until someone from the staff says otherwise, I will stake actual, genuine money that this was an exchange from the writer's room that made it into the show.

[colwashere]

JUSTICE FOR MY BABIES

[justvea18]

I need you all to see this old doodle

[deadbaguette]

Mothers doomed to bury their children I will protect you

Messing around with some Thetis designs (ignore Achilles STILL don’t have a design for him, the only thing ik is that he has the eye colour of his mom)

[katerinaaqu]

Achilles being who he is could be a subject of his upbringing (and how CONTEMPORARY his case seems if one thinks of it!) - an Analysis

Soooo I got an amazing ask today here and got inspired for some random thoughts here!

Has anyone noticed that Achilles's complicated psychology might as well be a result of his upbringing and how incredibly MODERN his case can be? Think about it;

He was prophesied he would die early. His family of course was concerned about it (how similar it is to children born with terminal illnesses nowadays indeed!)

His mother was already worried given how she was immortal and she was already worried her son was mortal much more when she found out he would be short-lived

His father cared enough to fight his goddess wife but also to send him to Chiron, the man who was known to train the best heroes in hope that his son would get the best education but also be prepared for every terrible situation in his life

His mother dressed him up as a woman and hid him among women so that he would live

His father promised his hair to a river god in hope that he would escape his ill fate (how similar to parents who want their child to go for treatment abroad even if they know it is hopeless!)

One can say Achilles is a child ill-fated, already people overly-indulge him because of his natural talents but also his ill fate. He got his life settled for him one way or another. Built skills as spherical as possible (arguably even for his mother's charade he learnt some female roles as well!), he had the best education as a golden child (from the art of war till music and all) and exceeded in all but also he had his family always worried of him. He even had a companion by his side at all occasions to make sure nothing would happen to him. Arguably his withdrawal to Chiron in nature also shielded Achilles to remain pure from the intrigues of palaces, from actual talks of violence and war WHILE being prepared for war just in case he would need to use it!

But also if one thinks of it...

Achilles was a child of divorced parents. Thetis abandoned the already bad for her marriage with Peleus. Peleus who attacked her with accusations that she would hurt her own child, for example in Argonautica, when he saw her hold the child over the flames to make him immortal. His family loved him;

And yet his parents abandoned him one way or another in his young mind!

His mother abandoned him in Phthia when she divorced his father

His father abandoned him to Chiron to get education

Abandonment pattern became apparent in Achilles's life! Both his parents loved him he knew that very well. Both parents wanted to protect him almost to a suffocating degree. They shielded him from violence and all that could potentially bring violence such as intrigues and plans but they also prepared him for the worst all his life while his father was telling him to always aim for being noble.

Achilles learnt by them to care and love to almost an unhealthy degree. He could see people who loved him abandoned him! He was trying his best to be the golden child, the honorable one. The one who would bring pride to his noble father and his goddess mother and his god ancestors. And yet he felt people who loved him unconditionally abandoned him! No wonder he clang to Patroclus. He was the only person that would stick around; he was following him. He was his family, his friend, his companion, his squire and his everything basically. His love for him was unconditional. Achilles also probably expected that Patroclus would never abandon him; he would die after him!

Achilles was introduced to violence way too soon, way too quickly and way too definitive!

He was sent to conflict very quickly

He saw first hand how blasphemy affects humans

He witnessed a human sacrifice (or the attempt of it depending on the source)

He saw intrigue arguably for the first time in his shielded life

He caused a lot of slaughter at a bloody war that wasn't even his business

He had his honor, the one he was fighting SO HARD to maintain for it would be the only thing left of him

And finally he lost that ONE PERSON he was sure he wouldn't leave him all alone! And he lost him because of HIS DECISION to send him in his place!

No wonder how he broke down eventually. His mind which was already at a limbo state because of the expectations he felt he was carrying on his shoulders in combination to the overly protective love he received from his parents. He simply collapsed!

He committed all the atrocities one could expect a person pure as him wouldn't commit;

He wished other people harm even if he had a personal grudge against one person

He refused the heroic ideal in order to go home

He fell into an absolute emotional collapse when he lost Patroclus clasping a dead body for DAYS (miasma) and wouldn't allow anyone to bury him (technically disrespect for the dead)

He went to blind rage and killed many for the name of his lost companion

Utterly disrespected the dead by dragging Hector's body around with the aim of absolutely destroying them

Barrage of human sacrifices before or even after his death

Possibly attempt of rape of Troilus and his killing over an altar

Achilles seems to have completely broken down to every single thing his family wanted to prevent him from! It was as if all the sins he was taught to avert were introduced to him all at once and that was catastrophic for his mind and eventually Patroclus's death was the final stroke for his already fragile psychology! I feel like these ancient writers knew what psychology was before psychology was a thing because man! One can get mind-blown every single time!

Next time someone says that these ancient poems are "out of date" or that they are "not connected to our reality" please think of stuff like this! I mean how can one get more contemporary than that!?

My other analysis on Achilles: Achilles and Patroclus relationship "Devil's advocate" reasons (under a post by @justvea18) On Achilles being on the edge On silence and Achilles's expression of emotion (inspired by @deadbaguette)

To gather some more Achilles potential squad: @hermesmoly , @h0bg0blin-meat , @deadbaguette , @greeknerdsstuff , @smokey07 , @wolfythewitch , @achillesisnotcomingdown , @emmikay , @superkooku , @captnbunnie , @ri-dumb-fck , @hymnoeides , @cynicalclairvoyantcadaver , @venomspecs , @roachcicle , @mt-isnothere12 , @mythology-lover , @mythology-loving-lee , @kindred-spirit-93 , @dionysism , @margaretkart

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[artiificiial]

the lovers

[greeknerdsblog]

#I'm back on my bullshit :3

[darlingsart]

Thetis and her tiny mortal son 💕

[54625]

"Have you no more memories?"

I am made of memories.

"Speak, then."

[1000dactyls]

men in aida. or however the first lines in the iliad go

[inflamedautistic]

Achilles: Mom, I'm going out to kill Hector.

Thetis: Not dressed like that you aren't young man!

Achilles (now in the shining suit of armor forged by Hephaestus): Better?

Thetis: Yas Bitch slay!