#these are the circles of Hell

[allastoredeer]

I was reading through your Pentagram City +Royal Family post when I noticed something. I don't know how close you want to stick to canon regarding smaller details, but you mentioned that Imp City is a district in Pentagram City. Imp City is actually its own city separate from Pentagram. The Pride Ring is made up of nine "circles" (a reference to Dante's Inferno) and in the Helluva Boss episode "Ozzie's" (i think it's Ozzie's anyway) you can see a billboard stating that Imp City is located in the second circle. Meanwhile I'm pretty sure Pentagram City is located in the first circle.

I did consider the 9 Circles, as I remember reading about it somewhere (don't remember where, thank you swiss cheese memory), but I was having a hard time connecting Dantes 9 Circles with the 7 Rings of Hell and how it all fit together. Like, it wasn't making a lot of sense.

I was trying to incorporate them into Pentagram City, but I couldn't figure out how. The city is already split up--if you're looking at the different colors and shades of each section--but that makes 11 sections in total. I took out the City Center/Heaven Embassy as one of the Circles, but that still leaves 10. Out of the five largest sections (I'm going to call them districts), we know at least 5 Overlords who run them (the Vee's in the purple section, which I call the Media District; Carmilla Carmine in the maroonish section, which I call the Weapons District; and the red section, run by Rosie, which is Cannibal Town).

I have it where all the Overlords run 1 of the 5 outer districts. The 5 smaller inner districts + the City Center are neutral zones. I thought about making the Circles each one of these districts (big and small), but there's 10 districts total (not including the City Center), so that still leaves one district unaccounted for, and if that's the case, then what does that single district represent? Is it just a blank spot? A vacancy? What does that mean for that district in contrast to all the other ones that represent a Circle?

In the end, I just couldn't figure out how to incorporate the Circles in Pentagram City in a way that made sense.

So I tried to expand them to the 7 Rings, but each Ring is already ruled by one of the Deadly Sins, which represents that Sin, and doubling up on themes (given that each of the 9 Circles also represents something, such as Limbo, Lust, Heresy, Violence, Treachery etc...), it just seemed like a lot. You could include the 7 Deadly Sins as one of the 9 Circles, as Lust, Greed, and Gluttony are already in in Dante's Circles, but that still leaves 2 out of the 9 Circles unaccounted for, as there are only 7 Rings.

You could have one Ring have 3 Circles, or two Rings have 2 Circles, but then what does that mean for that Ring versus the other Rings? What's the deciding factor for assigning each Circle? Do these Circles give a Sin more power? Does that Sin have more responsibility because they're also overseeing this Circle on top of their Ring? What's the purpose of the Circles at all? They each represent a section/factor of Hell, but how does that fit in with the Rings and the Sins, which already represent a section/factor of Hell?

So, if they're not divided amongst the Rings, where are they? How do you get there? I assume they'd have to use the big elevator that takes the Hellborn from Ring to Ring, so could it be that they're in-between Rings? But even then, if you divided them in between the Rings, there's only 8 spots, so where would the 9th circle be?

If the Circles are completely outside of the Rings, it still begs the question of how do they get there? There can be some magic-y handwavy teleport thing that could make it work, but we haven't seen anything like that in either Helluva Boss or Hazbin Hotel outside of Stola's book and Asmodean crystals (both of which are used to go to Earth) and Lucifer when he used his magic to teleport him, Charlie, and Vaggie off the terrace and back into the hotel lobby in "Dad Beat Dad" - but that's not something the Hellborn can do (that we've seen, at least).

I went back to find the billboard you mentioned:

So, I thought maybe the 9 Circles are the little dots around the pentagram, but that still makes 10 Circles. What would the tenth Circle be? Another vacancy? Another empty spot?

It could just be my brain disliking an empty space. Like, it's just there. It's a blank spot in the circle. I need it to be something, otherwise it makes my brain itchy.

So, eventually, I just decided to scrap the 9 Circles from my world-building. We may get more canon world-building from Viv and learn more about the 9 Circles and the 7 Rings, and how they all fit together, but until then, I'm keeping it to just the 7 Rings.

I put Imp City in Pentagram City because it's the most diverse Ring, and considering how much of a lower class the Imps are, I can see the Pride Ring the most likely place they'd be able to establish a little city for themselves. I also put them in between the Media District and the Weapons District, the first mostly for I.M.P's sake because I thought they'd like being so close to the Weapons District, considering their line or work; and the latter because Imp City being close to the Media District just makes sense. I can see there being a lot of job opportunities for Imps there (as service workers, doing grunt work, etc...), so it makes the most sense that the city would be between these two districts.

[emilnikos]

I need non autistic people to realise meltdowns are a real debilitating thing that has a serious effect on your mental and physical health NOWWWWW!!! The way its been trivialized and lessened pisses me the fuck off. It's not a tantrum and it doesn't come from "being too weak-willed" it's painful and it's embarrassing AND MOST OF ALL IT'S INVOLUNTARY!! Don't claim to be an ally to autistic or disabled people and then make fun of people who have meltdowns. Literally get the hell out of my sight

[samwwise]

happy 1 year anniversary to all who still live right here (july 28, 2023)

[s-aint-elmo]

part 1 of my pining falin agenda aka it was so tragical that falin got benched for the entirety of marcille's little black dress morally bankrupt baddie era and falin thinks so too

(ID in alt text)

part 2

[fantastic-nonsense]

however bad of a day you're having, know that it's not nearly as bad as whatever the Crowdstrike security team is going through since waking up this morning

[trader-scars]

doc and martyn both not really caring about shipping but being pro themself being shipped with ren is so funny. what is it about him that makes married men with children go yeah i want that one in particular

[atomic-chronoscaph]

Dante's Inferno - art by Gustave Doré (1861)

[thatone-highlighter]

I love you albums. I love you songs connected by similar themes. I love you listening to songs in a specific order picked by the artist. I love you reoccurring motifs throughout the same album. I love you album covers. I love you albums with extended editions. I love you songs that reference each other.

[dasnercaret]

(Wake up, Siffrin. You have a country to save.)

[revvethasmythh]

Pike, acolyte of the Everlight, helping to back up Briaus, acolyte of Asmodeus. Because everyone deserves a chance at redemption

[kaerik]

All of Hell's layout shots from Edwin's journal, in order

Heya! I needed to take some screenshots for reference when writing a fic, so I thought it'd be nice to share :)

(Under the cut I've added everything I could make out in the writtings)

"LAYERS OF HELL" across two pages. These are based on Dante's Inferno, the first part of Divine Comedy, and the nine circles of hell. (Shout out to my friend who helped me with the 10 "rooms" of Fraud <3)

Left page:

- Vestibule (unnumbered, right on top of Limbo, referring to the staircase)

I - Limbo

II - Lust

III - Gluttony

IV - Avarice

V - Wrath

VI - Heresy

VII - Violence

VIII - Fraud

IX - Treachery

- There are 10 "rooms" described between Violence and Fraud, referring to the 10 trenches of the eight circle of hell (Fraud) and numbered as such.

Room I reads: whipped.

Room II reads: covered in excrement.

Room III reads: flipped (?) feet set on fire.

Room IV reads: encased(?) in boiled pitch.

Room V reads: head turned backwards.

Room VI reads: wear lead robes.

Room VII reads: snake(?) pit turn(?) into snake.

Room VIII reads: (?) big flames.

Room IX reads: (?) -> quality is too low to tell; considering the trench of which it is based on, probably along the lines of 'mangled', 'mutilated', 'maimed', etc

Room X reads: leprosy, hungry(?), dark.

Right page:

- Endless staircase

- "UPPER HELL" encompassing layers I to IV.

Beside layers III and IV, read: heavy labour(?), everyone in your way

- "LOWER HELL" encompassing layers V to IX.

Beside layers VI and VII, read: trapped, impaled, submerged in blood. Beside layer VIII, read: snake pit, gain human form by biting other humans. Beside layer IX, read: frozen + stuck + chewed on

Left page:

- LIMBO

Right page:

- "DO NOT RING" is crossed out near a bell. Dashed line points to where the bell is on the room.

Left page:

- Arrow pointing to the claw machine, referencing the passage behind it. Note reads: Back to Doll House. No.

- Circle on the bottom right, just above a door: Wrong way. AVARICE. Everything too heavy.

- GLUTTONY

Right page:

- LUST

[rapidhighway]

bad girls go to hell ^^

[loneliii-aura]

I'm gonna say it! The thing that made me grumpiest about wtnv fandom back in the day was the belief that Cecil buys into the propaganda! He does NOT! This man is looking you dead in the eyes and saying "do not look at the mountains. The government denies ALL EXISTENCE of such mountains. The mountains are not real." You think he gets sent to re-education every six weeks for FUN?! He is a journalist frantically trying to get around censorship! The government would like to strangle him for talking about this! COME ON!

[i-lavabean]

See someone's got to tell the tale, whether or not it turns out well

Maybe it will turn out this time

[rebel-ezra]

my favorite lyrics of unreal unearth by hozier

first time // francesca // I, carrion (Icarian) // damage gets done // who we are // all things end // to someone from a warm climate (uiscefhuarithe) // anything but // abstract (psychopomp) // unknown/nth

listen to unreal unearth

[lithiumrox]

when it's Ashley's turn to roll the d100 she's going to role a 001 and they're going to teleport directly into gelidon's lair.