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allastoredeer · 4 months ago
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I was reading through your Pentagram City +Royal Family post when I noticed something. I don't know how close you want to stick to canon regarding smaller details, but you mentioned that Imp City is a district in Pentagram City. Imp City is actually its own city separate from Pentagram. The Pride Ring is made up of nine "circles" (a reference to Dante's Inferno) and in the Helluva Boss episode "Ozzie's" (i think it's Ozzie's anyway) you can see a billboard stating that Imp City is located in the second circle. Meanwhile I'm pretty sure Pentagram City is located in the first circle.
I did consider the 9 Circles, as I remember reading about it somewhere (don't remember where, thank you swiss cheese memory), but I was having a hard time connecting Dantes 9 Circles with the 7 Rings of Hell and how it all fit together. Like, it wasn't making a lot of sense.
I was trying to incorporate them into Pentagram City, but I couldn't figure out how. The city is already split up--if you're looking at the different colors and shades of each section--but that makes 11 sections in total. I took out the City Center/Heaven Embassy as one of the Circles, but that still leaves 10. Out of the five largest sections (I'm going to call them districts), we know at least 5 Overlords who run them (the Vee's in the purple section, which I call the Media District; Carmilla Carmine in the maroonish section, which I call the Weapons District; and the red section, run by Rosie, which is Cannibal Town).
I have it where all the Overlords run 1 of the 5 outer districts. The 5 smaller inner districts + the City Center are neutral zones. I thought about making the Circles each one of these districts (big and small), but there's 10 districts total (not including the City Center), so that still leaves one district unaccounted for, and if that's the case, then what does that single district represent? Is it just a blank spot? A vacancy? What does that mean for that district in contrast to all the other ones that represent a Circle?
In the end, I just couldn't figure out how to incorporate the Circles in Pentagram City in a way that made sense.
So I tried to expand them to the 7 Rings, but each Ring is already ruled by one of the Deadly Sins, which represents that Sin, and doubling up on themes (given that each of the 9 Circles also represents something, such as Limbo, Lust, Heresy, Violence, Treachery etc...), it just seemed like a lot. You could include the 7 Deadly Sins as one of the 9 Circles, as Lust, Greed, and Gluttony are already in in Dante's Circles, but that still leaves 2 out of the 9 Circles unaccounted for, as there are only 7 Rings.
You could have one Ring have 3 Circles, or two Rings have 2 Circles, but then what does that mean for that Ring versus the other Rings? What's the deciding factor for assigning each Circle? Do these Circles give a Sin more power? Does that Sin have more responsibility because they're also overseeing this Circle on top of their Ring? What's the purpose of the Circles at all? They each represent a section/factor of Hell, but how does that fit in with the Rings and the Sins, which already represent a section/factor of Hell?
So, if they're not divided amongst the Rings, where are they? How do you get there? I assume they'd have to use the big elevator that takes the Hellborn from Ring to Ring, so could it be that they're in-between Rings? But even then, if you divided them in between the Rings, there's only 8 spots, so where would the 9th circle be?
If the Circles are completely outside of the Rings, it still begs the question of how do they get there? There can be some magic-y handwavy teleport thing that could make it work, but we haven't seen anything like that in either Helluva Boss or Hazbin Hotel outside of Stola's book and Asmodean crystals (both of which are used to go to Earth) and Lucifer when he used his magic to teleport him, Charlie, and Vaggie off the terrace and back into the hotel lobby in "Dad Beat Dad" - but that's not something the Hellborn can do (that we've seen, at least).
I went back to find the billboard you mentioned:
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So, I thought maybe the 9 Circles are the little dots around the pentagram, but that still makes 10 Circles. What would the tenth Circle be? Another vacancy? Another empty spot?
It could just be my brain disliking an empty space. Like, it's just there. It's a blank spot in the circle. I need it to be something, otherwise it makes my brain itchy.
So, eventually, I just decided to scrap the 9 Circles from my world-building. We may get more canon world-building from Viv and learn more about the 9 Circles and the 7 Rings, and how they all fit together, but until then, I'm keeping it to just the 7 Rings.
I put Imp City in Pentagram City because it's the most diverse Ring, and considering how much of a lower class the Imps are, I can see the Pride Ring the most likely place they'd be able to establish a little city for themselves. I also put them in between the Media District and the Weapons District, the first mostly for I.M.P's sake because I thought they'd like being so close to the Weapons District, considering their line or work; and the latter because Imp City being close to the Media District just makes sense. I can see there being a lot of job opportunities for Imps there (as service workers, doing grunt work, etc...), so it makes the most sense that the city would be between these two districts.
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