#then it's “lol just dont exist in queer spaces!”
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I've yet to find someone who can ever give a good answer as to what places repulsed people have to go when it comes to pride being unwelcoming.
"Just go to a different pride!" how many pride do i have to go to until i find one? Some people only have 1 pride nearby and if there are more some of us cant drive or travel long distances to get to them.
"just don't go to pride then!" Then where am I supposed to go? where can i go to celebrate my identity and part of the queer community?
it's all "There are other places you can go!" ok where? I cant go into queer bars. What if there are no queer groups or programs? what if those queer places are not supportive of aspec people let alone repulsed people?
"we should make a tent for people who dont want to see sexual stuff" so basically relegating us to the kiddy table? not allowing us to enjoy the rest of the event? we are forever stuck only in a roped off area, away from the rest of the queer community?
Do you get what I'm getting at here? do you see what the issue is? do you understand how there is no place to repulsed people? do you understand?
#text#if anyone brings up this post as being anti-kink at pride or homophobic i will kill you myself#I need you guys to understand that repulsed people have no place to go#and us expressing how little space we have in the queer community - hell even in the aspec community IS NOT AN ATTACK OF YOU OR UR SEXUALIT#if your response to a minority asking for space is to tell them to shut up then maybe you should reevaluate urself#it's all “the queer community is for everyone” until it is repulsed ppl#then it's “lol just dont exist in queer spaces!”#aro#ace#aromantic#asexual#aspec#aroace#sex repulsed#romance repulsed#queer#pride
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sometimes i wish that ao3 has that wattpad feature where u can comment on specific paragraphs like annotations, bc i read y'alls work and i want to scream at the little bits but cant elaborate further enough for it to be a coherent comment
#reading dont wanna be no uptown fool#jace's “maybe he's butch!” makes me giggle n i want that to be known#as well as porter's “so you queer?” IM SHOUTING#if this was a feature i'd just comment “AOUGH” every single time lol#pls i cant form a coherent thought i cant write let me just say AOUGH n let it be enOUGH#also yes i am still so so shy to comment on fics bc IVE ONLY RECENTLY BECAME COMFORTABLE EXISTING AND BEING PERCIEVED IN ONLINE SPACES
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in a hilarious turn of events my flatmate didn't even know I use any pronouns....
#i thought when she was talking abt how her parents thought i was gonna come out as trans and kept checking my name/pronouns-#that the joke was that im ALREADY trans but in ways they dont know abt.... but nope she genuinely didnt know 🤭#to be fair. i dont rly let anyone in on my gender business unless we're close enough to be dating or its an anonymous online space#like im legally cis and thats fine. idc abt ppl using my name + she/her bc thats not my gender identity its just AN identity that i use-#to navigate the world without ppl being fucking nosy bc i pass as + am sociopolitically treated as a woman (if butch lol)#to ppl who are friends ill joke that my gender is dyke (true) and to friends whose gender falls on a similar spectrum-#or who are transmasc ill talk a little more honestly abt it bc theyre usually able to understand better than anyone else#other butch dykes w a weird gender going on are the only motherfuckers who actually Get It but theyre hard to come by tbh#to be frank i dont fucking know whats going on w my gender. and i dont rly care enough to do the introspection to figure it out rn#i have so many other problems in my life and im lucky that most of my beef w gender can be solved by presenting butch + binding#and using any pronouns around other queer ppl. its actually incredibly funny to me when ppl she/her me bc its like tch. this chump hasnt#unlocked my level of gender yet. pronouns and names in general are so far disconnected from the way i exist in the world...#its just smth thats fun for me to play around with + makes me feel weird sometimes but in ways i havent distilled yet yknow#and this has been my approach to gender for like?? 4-5 years now??? and likely will continue to be for a long while..#anyway. its not actually that surprising my flatmate doesnt know bc shes cis so ive never felt compelled to have a deeper conversation#abt gender with her. but also i could sweeaaar its been mentioned bc almost all our other friends are trans lol#and also ive been introducing myself at queer sports socials w any pronouns and i swear i talked abt that w her..... whatever#and my pronouns are on discord and shes def seen my tumblr before but maybe i didnt have them in my bio at the time... i digress#i kind of prefer cis ppl she/hering me tbh. theyre not able to they them or he him or whatever else me in a way that matters.....#altho i do find it fascinating when she or other ppl elect to use neutral or masculine terms for me. raising an eyebrow and taking notes#like when she got a job and joked abt me being her househusband.. pulling up the fem/masc tally chart and chalking a line up#a la nona the ninth.... ive been trying to figure out whos inhabiting this body my entire fucking life with no luck girl#ANYWAY just smth to think abt. im so tired i think my brain is gonna start seeping out my eyeballs#im gonna watch some more pluto and read and then -> 🛌#another 6:30 start tomorrow woohoo#.diaries#zzzzz
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Just wanna remind everyone that it's NEVER okay to tell someone to die.
You don't know how hard they're fighting to stay alive every day. Or if they don't even want to fight for that any more.
#i hate that i let that get to me lmao just ruined my fucking day ive been sitting here sobbing for like an hour#i cant tell anyone just how much i dont even want to try any more bc i dont see the point#medical issues and mental issues dont pair well and i dunno if im even gonna be able to survive the next flare up#i dont need fandom spaces telling me to die when im already telling myself that every fucking day#also why does my age always get brought up lmao i didnt choose to be born 30 years ago stop telling me im old#my body has been telling me im old since age 11 you dont know what ive fucking been thru#30 was just a formality and serves as another reminder of how ill never meet societys expectations for a 30yo lmao#my point is. you should try showing a little more kindness if telling someone to die comes so easily#ive literally never once told anyone to die in my life. you just dont fucking go there. what if they kill themself right after that?#can you live knowing they did so on your command?#i couldnt#thats just like beyond fucked up#anyway im gonna go try and stop crying#ill prob stay off tumblr today idk i feel real sick lol#delete later / /#i hate that i cant exist as myself either in person (too queer and closeted in a rural area) or online (too queer and weird ships)#anyway
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was going insane at a friend last night now I need to research transness in the 70s and all that fun stuff so I can be fully unhinged and maybe actually write smth for once instead of being haunted by visions
#grem screams#I love history#I love reading and learning about the past and the people#I love seeing the way things have changed the way things reflect and parallel and diverge#I also just really like queer history#I love learning about the ways people existed and shit#idk theres just smth so cool about people in spaces that aren't really talked about in regular history classes and like learning about them#I might be a lil cringe boy art student who cant help but romanticize shit because hes full of feelings but idk it got me feeling#sometime of way#idk lately ive been feeling like I cant quite find the words to describe what I am I just know I am what I am#and that often people just get it or they dont lol#ngl this all started off as me vague posting about wanting to write a trans genda scout from tf2 fic and getting wya too invested in how#that would work logically bc it needs to be accurate#it needs to be a journey!!!#and I want it to be in charater#but im also a lil bitch for angst lmao#im also a nerd lmaooo that and its hard for me to write things dow n with out it sounding wrong or just not right you know?#it feels wholly too earnest and cheesy to my own ears and it makes me shrivel up like a popcorn left in the oven#uh anyway I think trans scout is neat actually and I would love to see more explorations into it guess im gonna attempt to be the change I#wanna see in the world lmao#idk hes just so easy to grab and dunk into the#world is fuck being different is hard give 200 dollars sauce you know?#veeerrrry easy to project onto the trans angst is he is like sponge and I am a vicious liquid#and he has daddy issues lmao apparently arcording to my very small sampling size that tends to happen side by side#and idk I think it would make sense for scout to just straight up not know a lot of shit he gives#me when I was in middle school and I thought it was funny to trick people into thinking I was a guy even tho I was totally a girl /sarcasm#he gives deep in the denial sauce but also totally extremely uncomfy when people find out and getting unreasonably happy when hes called si#but ahahaha nooo im totally a girl haha and just feeling more awkward now#lmao#sorry for the rambling lmao idk if this is accurate for his charater I do think him being trans could be a fun thing to just explore and sh
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May I just say I really really appreciate your approach to and respect for the transfemininity embedded in Homestuck. Like the fact that you depict Jake as a kind of "genderfuck" (for lack of a better word) character without trying to divorce that from transfemininity as so many others do, as well as being able to depict Roxy with certain clocky characteristics without disregarding her femininity or making it feel fetish-y, is all really admirable in my eyes. It gets extremely frustrating seeing large swathes of the fandom constantly trying to separate the story of Homestuck from transfemininity despite it having a transfem enby author, so I really appreciate that you don't shy away from it in your art :)
I am so glad!!!!! Its something ive Always noticed in like every fandom since i first got onto the internet the disparity between the amount of transfems i knew vs how often their story got to be uplifted in fandom spaces or get to be celebrated how transmascs did considering how queer dominated they are but then i grew up and realised how badly male centric queer spaces are too😭
Homestuck is one of the spaces that has a big amount of transfems openly engaging in fandom activities and that makes me really happy to see! since i often see gross rhetoric from transmascs or cis women about fandom spaces abt “who is allowed” and “fandom being a safe space” cough blatant transmisogyny (sobs everywhere its so bad)
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW PPL BRUSH PAST HUSSIE BEING TRANS SO OFTEN ISNT THAT INSANE. To me it reframes homestuck how the creators of the matrix being trans does. Like I dunno maybe that informed the works presentation of gender somehow. Maybe all the commentary and critique and displays of frustration at the contradictory nature of gender but especially trying to fit “being a man” in society came from somewhere when they were writing it 🤔🤔🤔 hussie said it herself that alot of homestuck was just stream of consciousness. Everything that comes out of daves mouth near the end seemed very plausible to be a reflection of hussies own journey realising that Actually these boundaries of what defines A Good Man and A Good Woman are ridiculous and no person can possibly live up to that no matter what were told from birth.
But i try my best to reflect the innate transfemininity of homestuck and the majority of its cast, its something integral to the works themes and just the community who built it! It saddens me how skittish other transmascs are about engaging with or portraying the transfeminine stories when its just. Practically textual. And all you need to do is Listen and empathise. I love learning how other feminine people see themselves in this story like how often do you get such a menagerie of in depth fem characters. And i love seeing what the experiences transfems see echoed in homestuck are because its all such insightful stuff About femininity and its beauty and its ills all at once. Roxy..kanaya.. wipes tear from my eye.
I want to actively include and celebrate transfem features and bodies as much as transmasc ones get to be around here and i am glad my jake and roxy do feel that way 🥹🥹 my aim with my designs is to make them feel like some everyday people youd see, no fetishisation/sexualisation or demonisation, just Existing and appreciating. Because i know how much it can mean to see yourself in something and for that to be treated with care and kindness. Its why i create in the first place! Because of how others creations gave me that comfort when i couldnt find it elsewhere
I feel similarly about how people portray fat women or just like. Women in general. its sad how badly the whole sexualisation = acceptance warps how people portray things fatness or transfem features. Never ever saying these things arent hot or sexy or to be appreciated. Duh. I think how i portray jake says enough abt what i think of that LOL just that It feels like its the only way people try and show theyre accepting? Which just feels so gross and dehumanising the only way they think to display they feel empathy is through saying “Yeah i can get off to people like you”😭
Rlly bad in society in general so also in the homestuck space. Worlds hardest challenge is liking the alpha kids. Im so sorry for what they do to you jane and roxy🥲🥲🥲 Its baffling because Homestuck is Prime Example Numero Uno of how to humanise characters. Just display them being people; their thoughts, their feelings, their insecurities, their passions, their woes, their loves, their losses. So much can be communicated through how a character speaks with their friends.
I wana do that for jake and roxy! They get to be dimensional too! I like showing their laughs and their sorrows, just them Existing with the people around them. They get to be a part of the lighthearted comedy just as the rest of them do. They get to be a part of all the gender and sexuality insanity going on in their friend group, can point out their flaws and mistakes and insecurities. I dunno its rlly not that hard to just empathise with them and want to tell their stories.
I am so invested in the raw unabashed Humanity of homestuck. Its just one person pouring their brain contents into this huge thing and it displays the best and the worst and the absurdity and the questions. Its so interesting and hussies transness IS JUST BAKED INTO IT. Thus the characters contain that too and it kinda stinks of transmisogyny to throw that out!
YAPPING TOO MUCH OMG but i rlly appreciate this ask🫶🫶🫶makes me so happy to hear
#I understand hussie in their notes so badly. you cna go on endless tangents about literally anyrhing with homestuck#i could probably make a podcast thatd go forever because i can never run out of shit to say about this thing#homestuck#daniel talks#jake english#roxy lalonde
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i honestly dont know hoe to say this, but you really had a hand in shaping my brai chemistry while i was growing up, no kidding. i remember when i was 13 or so and whenever you posted a pearl rap career chapter it would unironicaly make my day (specially when you dropped the peridot chapter i had a stomach infection or smth, so that video and the last one out of beach city episode were on replay for me for a few days). its really weird seeing that rebecca managed to make a safe space for lgbt folks (it was really hard for me to accept myself as gay, it seems really simple nowadays but back then it was so discomforting to even thinm about it so su and its fandom, and by some extent, your vids, helped me externalize some feelings or queernes i guess, do you remeber when someone said your video editing was raw and masculine? lol). anyways, its wild to think i was in 5th grade when i first watched laser light canon and now im finishing my journalism course in college and seeing how this show raised me in some way and helped me to be aware of my own mental health i only have good memories, thankfully, and its really sad to see that it ended, but i honestly wouldnt have had it any other way. its kind of a long rant but id like to thank you, mackenzie, your videos made me laugh a lot when i was a teen and they still make me now. this show was truly a gift, it made us connect to something bigger and magical. this was kind of a long rant since ive kinda forgotten that su existed and remined that it existed because of some dreams lol. i remembered back then when i was super anxious about the cluster episode, i remeber checking your tumblr everyday and seeing fanon content. i really dont know how to express myself since english is not my first language and i tend to ramble on a lot on my native one, but id like to say youve made me smile a lot, it was so cool seeing you present the su podcast and being an intern at CN. i honestly wish you the best.
Dude it means so much to hear that my lil shitposts have had an impact on people!!!! I completely understand where youre coming from re: SU's impact on your life (and acceptance of queer identity) and feel the same way!!! im so grateful for this show and everything it represents. in a world without Steven Universe my current life would be completely unrecognizable. like genuinely I dont think any single aspect of my life would be the way it is without SU. which is nuts but it's true!!!
I love engaging with this community and it gave me a lot of support when I was at a place in my life where I felt pretty isolated. I'm kind of rambling now too but this seriously has been sitting in my inbox for a bit now and I just knew i needed to respond and say thank you for sharing. <3
ALSO LMAO I FORGOT ABT THE RAW AND MASCULINE COMMENT THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME HAHA
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as a black genderfucked lesbian who is american, watching white american queers argue over stuff sometimes feels so.......like. hollow. or shallow. in a way. i dont know how to explain it. like it just feels like "lol. lmao even" because yes i GUESS these are valid concerns but you guys................can we focus on why you guys never include black people, or almost any nonwhite folks in your little rants that border on tantrums. i mean EYEEEEE know why but do YOUUU know why? i dont know. it just makes it hard to navigate because they're fighting battles i would never think to pick up simply because its like okay yes thats a problem but there is a giant tuna sitting on the grill rn i am not worried about anchovies
EXACTLY. It’s so exhausting being black and trans and trying to exist in trans spaces. White trans people never consider trans people of color when they’re talking about the community as a whole it’s so frustrating. Trying to find things that were useful to me as a younger trans person was pretty much impossible and sorta still is :’) Don’t even get me started on all the “trans stereotypes” that only ever include white people. I have never once related to any of that shit.
I truly wish it was easier for trans people or color to take up space in this community.
#marshal answers#transgender#trans#transmasc#ftm#lgbt#trans guy#ftm trans#nb#mtf#transfem#queer#trans poc#queer poc
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not rlly a point im just writing to put my thoughts down, i think ive said heart was like the "character" aspect before, the leijons ship their friends in a way reminicent to how fandom ships characters. dps is the self actualized version of their components and is the final stage of their character arcs. dirk is made up of multiple characters and becomes different characters in the comic yk.
damn this got long
bc character transitions can b easily read as a trans metaphor, u can point to dps, who is canonically queer, and dirk(s) to be like oh yep trans gender. dirk's relationship to his body as well as bgd and hal's is rly interesting. hal has zero control over the safety of his body and bgd's existence relys entirely on jake.
dirk's casual suicidal tendencies are given a reason every time, and hal doesnt seem bothered to exploit them possibly exposing a shared value they have. "it is ok to die AS LONG as its for the greater good". its tested however when dirk kills himself in game over, as much as he tries to get shit done, he is just a 16 yr old. AND like the other space players, he's been awake on his moon for a while. the dual waking thing prolly wasn't any good for him and exasperated any dissociative symptoms he would have developed by living alone his entire life. so basically, i dont think he's very connected to his body, seeing his brain more of himself rather than the body he inhabits. the lack of physical autonomy in bgd and hal is a round are just different versions of that. body mind soul thing yk.
through a trans lens, i see him as a trans guy who's far removed from his body mentally. this could be from dysphoria, or an intense neutrality from it from disassociation. from a mental health lens, its giving dissociation and osdd. bro's filled to the brim with himself, but is also exhausted from his hyper vigilance in keeping himself in check.
i think the idea of hrt would kinda freak him out in the same way puberty would have freaked him out if he went through a regular one (no way his ass was getting his nutrience). any sudden changes to his body that he wouldnt have done meticulously would have been a big hell no despite his distancing. though it isn't "him", it's his, like how one would see a tool. he's hella anal about that sort of thing.
which makes me think about bgd. interesting fella. i think the way he copes is how he views himself as a tool, like how hal does when he says he's just glasses. he enacts jake's will by fighting aranea "for his honor". bgd is also smitten with jake, being a big loop of dirk and jake's feelings for one another, which also softens the whole thing. its rlly no shocking idea that dirk puts people on crazy high pedestals, so like as long as jake's happy, he's happy. its more complicated than that, but this is a long ass post lol.
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You sure JK is queer and loves jimin ? I'm genuinely asking lol. Because he's doing everything he can do to show he's so into girls and a fuckboy, just like how he wanted to be seen since the beginning of his career. Both song are so westernized and hetero af. I dont think a man who's queer, in a long term relationship with a man, who loves to sing and respect his art so much will accept this work. Disappointed af and so close to drop JK and Jikook. I kinda liked jK because I thought he's Jimin's partner now that he's proving he's not.. why should I carry a baggage of another man when I can concentrate only on my Jimin ?
I feel gaslit when you guys ask me over and over if I think Jikook are queer or are dating every single time your feelings are bruised by your subjective experience of them in certain moments.
Like why would I think otherwise?
I get exhausted from repeating myself over and over. Yes I'm sure I think he's queer and yes I'm certain I believe he loves Jimin.
My perception of them is not grounded in the matching clothes and shoes they wear or the fan service or from any of those frivolous metrics some base their arguments on.
And I don't have a one dimensional view of them. I see them as human beings with imperfections who make mistakes fight make up break up throw up drink smoke and do all kinds of things the ordinary human being would. I hold that space for them TO BE TOTALLY HUMAN.
And if you saw them as human too you wouldn't reduce them to 1 dimensional creatures who only exist to love each other, prove that love to random insecure spectators and flaunt or validate their sexual identities.
Damn queer people can sing too and not make every damn moment of their lives or song lyric a political statement about their sexuality. That's just wrong of you to hold that sentiment.
Name a single queer artist who don't have a positively het song. From Sam Smith, Frank Ocean to Elton. They probably have some of the biggest straight not so straight songs in the world.
And this is even a conversation that we keep having in queer spaces. Queer artists leaning into heteronormative lyric standards due to commercial motives or fear of coming out is not for you to exploit as bases for your distrust or dislike of an artist.
It's his personal choice whether he wants to sing about boys or girls or chihuahuas. And he is free to sing about whatever he wants. Let's start there.
And this is tone deaf as fuck. You are disappointed because he is not making his work, his bread and butter, his means of making a living all about your bias.
But what of the queer teens and youth who support him and wish for representation and inclusivity? And you cared about representation at all then you would be happy with the diverse cast no? Because that would be a step in the right direction? Cos we need sign language interpretars in there, Trans, and the whole gang up in there if we talking bout representation but no. This is what you is worried about.
Well fuck boy or not he is not fucking you. You shouldn't worry about that. Let Jimin worry about that. It's his D to take.
It's one thing to say you don't enjoy his song lyrics but to conflate that with his entire personality, you are so out of line
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When did you first discover your gender identity?
(Also fellow queer Christian yay!)
Queer Christians for the win!!! You're getting my whole gender story now haha
At about age 8 or 9, I realised I didn't really fit in with how people of my assigned gender should feel or act. I didn't (and still don't) understand the concept of "boy things" vs "girl things" and why and how the binary existed. But i thought that i was just stupid.
By the age of 12 i became incredibly dysphoric and my mental health plummeted but i didn't have the words to explain my gender. I knew about binary trans people but not non binary people so i was really frustrated and actually mildly transphobic because i didn't understand why these people (binary trans people) could understand themselves and i couldnt, so i decided they were full of shit. Lol.
I identified as binary trans for a while, but i discovered online spaces where i finally learned about nby identities. I changed labels A LOT and ive used so many pronouns i can't even imagine how i kept track lmao. But i really like that part of my life and having the space to explore and try out different names (aka every harry potter and star wars characters' names) was so good for me.
I have a few microlabels that i use to describe my gender now, but mostly i stick to just non binary. I'm transneutral and genderflux, which means my gender is neutral but fluctuates in intensity. Sometimes it feels more masculine or feminine but i dont really feel like genderfluid describes me.
As of now, i'm out to multiple teachers at school with my name and pronouns and they're all incredibly supportive :)
And that's it! I didn't even try to bring the religion aspect into it because i would discover if this site had a character limit lmao. But i chose the name Noag because i love the story of Noag (english = Noah) in the Bible because he had to just trust God even if it all seemed crazy and out of control and i try to have the same faith as Bible Noag, though i'm not very good at it always haha
#thanks for the ask!#ask#genderflux#non binary#trans#transgender#enby#nby#trans christian#queer christian
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hiya cas!! so i saw about your new job - congratulations!! im glad you were able to find something better for you, especially somewhere where your identity will be respected <33
as for advice with middle schoolers, ive only done a short teaching experience with kids aged 13-16 but hopefully some of it could be of use! (once ive finished my university course in teaching, ill absolutely be asking your advice in return ahaha)
so this ones less like advice and more just... a suggestion, i guess? maybe not for your first year there if you dont want to have too much on your plate or if you dont have time, but if theres any sort of extracurricular activities or lunchtime clubs you might want to set up, do it!! it creates such a safe space for kids if they dont feel like they can go outside/in the lunchhall etc - i definitely benefitted from a few myself when i was at school - and it helps make your classroom feel like a place kids can go to whenever they need help, which is huge. my english teacher at my first high school literally saved me by setting up her creative writing club, and we barely actually wrote stuff. but just by her having that space for me, it made me feel like her room was a welcoming place for me to exist whenever i needed support or somewhere to take a breath, and showed me that she was a safe person to be around <3
also, this maybe seems like an obvious one but just be yourself! dont try too hard to be likeable; im absolutely not saying to be an awful person, but i just mean that trying too hard will make the kids lose any respect for you because theyll deem you cringe :/ be yourself!! im sure theyll love you!
its okay to make mistakes, too, and if you do make any, dont try to hide them if anyone notices!! the kids need to know that its okay not to get things right all the time - perfection is not going to happen every time! i wish someone had shown me that in school. most of my teachers either hid their mistakes or they blamed it on others, which in turn made me feel like i had to hide and deflect my own mistakes too. its still a habit im trying to unlearn
i dont think ive got much else to say? a lot of it looks to have already been covered by others ahaha
best of luck!! youve got this in the bag, cas <33
Hi hon!!! Thank you so much for all of this advice, I really appreciate it. I think it's hilarious that you were in a middle school creative writing club that didn't actually do much writing because...I was too lol. Is that a common queer experience? Were your teacher's initials perhaps DM? (because that would be so fucking insane).
But YES I definitely want to do a club. I actually don't know if they have a GSA yet, so if they don't I'm gonna look into that. But if they do, a writing club sounds amazing.
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i dont want to be uncompassionate but i simply do not understand where these Ohhh no queer spaces apart from nightlife we need to make the Gay Library Coffeeshop Collective Art Moment because those literally Exist. idk i saw a lot of these opinions from people in the us or such so i didnt question it but ive seen it lately in buenos aires (like two times and one was yank but wtv) and its puzzling lol. the amount of expositions art fairs drag performances political organizing movie showings is overwhelming and i guess you can count music shows as nightlife but theyre not like, expensive clubbing? i have like 80% queer acquaintances and i go dancing like three times a year. i know it sucks to not find your place because i AM ! a very socially awkward person who has a hard time making friends and it did take me some effort to find the places i feel welcome in and i have fun in and also im the today i will be drinking and smoking cigarettes in a public park at 2 pm friend because im still unemployed which most people dont get to be but idk sometimes its just a bit silly. i wont deny its hard but dont act like the scene doesn't exist. SILLY!!!! we're cool though :)
#also make your own spaces lol. i run a poetry magazine made of a4 paper and staples where i publish all my faggots ❤️#obviously rural and small cities are different idk what its like there! but these usually come from people who already live in big cities
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Might have sent this ask already idk tumblr is weird
Not well-verse in online queer discourse but the whole bi lesbian thing pisses me off. So like, bi women in lesbian spaces exist and there are two types
1) the gay leaning bi woman, cause like if she identifies more with being wlw shes gonna be in wlw spaces. But 95% of the time if shes dating a man she's not bringing him to the lesbian bar.
2) the "im technically bi but i dont really care about men or want to deal with them" sapphic. Sometimes they call themselves lesbians. Sometimes they call themselves bi or sapphic. None of them bringing men to lesbian spaces
The second type is what i assumed the bi lesbian discourse was about. Like someone just wanted to give full disclosure. So i was confused what people were talking about. But the fact that ppl are fighting tooth and nail to include men in lesbianism, and then accusing other ppl that dont vibe with that to be transphobic and biphobic gets me so bothered you dont understand. Like why are you so intent on including men in an identity that excludes them
Im a lesbian but i love bi women so much, so the "biphobia fighters" that keep attaching bi women to this "lesbians can be/date men" has me fucking murderous cause why would you do that to them? And im not gonna sit here and act like lesbians cant be transphobic, no sexuallity is the "transphobia free sexuality". But like, we're talking about trans women/transfems right? Not a binary trans man that still wants to call himself a lesbian? Cause while i can sympathize with the fear of falling out of a community you grew up in, i am not gonna attack a lesbian for not wanting to date a trans man.
Sorry for rambling in youre askbox. This thing has me mad on every possible side
I feel like people also have to learn to understand the difference between wlw/sapphic spaces and lesbian spaces. When people use so much lesbian as an umbrella term for any wlw people tend to forget lesbians are also not attracted to men and that is also an important aspect of our identity. A lot of people tend to think we only suffer because of our attraction to women while we also do suffer a lot from not being attracted to men.
The bi lesbian discourse is partially about the second example you gave tbh.
Tbh the whole “lesbians can date men” coming from “bi lesbians” is usually rooted in transphobia too lol, both because they think trans men can be lesbians (which just shows how they don’t really view them as men) but also because they’re transmisogynistic so they think if a lesbian is attracted to a trans woman that is not so different than being attracted to a man…
People love attacking lesbians no matter what.
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my gender is a fucking mess. I was born amab, transitioned early, and then starting going the other direction after bottom surgery to be more androgynous. because of this, I pass as trans guy. I go to a local queer youth group and the leader is a trans man in his 30s, he thinks I'm a afab trans guy on T.
And so do all of my irl friends, all afab, two are trans masc, the other a cis lesbian.
One of the trans mascs refers to everyone as "they" even though he knows peoples pronouns, unless the person is a trans women and then he uses "he" for them on instinct.
In conversations about sex, they all don't even consider trans women as a possibility of existing, visibly confused if I ever mention them. (tm:"I'm a lesbian I can't get pregnant lol I'll never touch a dick" me:"I mean trans women exist", all three of them:???)
I am fucking terrified that if I ever slip up or let them know I'm trans fem nb/butch and not an afab trans guy they'll stop talking to me, and think I'm a threat to be around.
I feel like a spy behind enemy lines and at any moment they'll destroy me and tell everyone I was invading womens spaces to rape them or something.
I don't know what to do. Transmisogyny is just so deeply embedded in every afab person around me and they dont even realise it.
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these are just rambling thoughts but it does kinda bother me how people will talk about all the bullshit in internet queer spaces (exclusionism, anti-ace shit, anti-poly shit, kink discourse, etcetc) and try to make out this is specifically a contemporary issue and that older, offline queer spaces never had these issues and i'm just always like bitch are we really doing this lol!?! turbulence in queer spaces has ALWAYS existed because surprise surprise queer people aren't a monolith lol!
like dont get me wrong, there's a lot of issues that have been exasperated by the internet and the insular ways people on here or other socials engage with queerness, but let's not try and paint the past as this utopia where all queer people marched in solidarity holding hands and having no issues with each other because it just ain't fucking true lol
#personal#also queer spaces themselves are a pretty modern (as in 20th century) idea lol#like things like assimilation have been hot talking points in the queer community for YEARS lol#my entire point here is that these things were just invented by teenagers on tumblr in the 2010s lol#so like let's stop pretending they were u know?#idk im kinda sleepy still hopefully this makes some sorta sense lol
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