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I appreciate you all from the bottom of my heart, but there's a trend with TimeRogue fics that had Ruby having left before the Doctor ever finds Rogue, and there's many things that could be said there about fandom, but my stone to grind is that Ruby Sunday is canonically Go Find Your Man Advocate No.1. Show my heartbreak queen the respect she deserves
#fanfiction#timerogue#dw spoilers#ruby sunday#doctor who#getting in to how people treat romantic vs platonic relationships as being competitve or one being less inherently valuble#and fandoms general disinterest in writing women in favour of relationships between men#but honestly im here for fun#if TimeRogue has 100 shippers Ruby Sunday is one of them. if TimeRogue has 1 shipper it is Ruby Sunday. if TimeRogue has 0 shippers#then Ruby Sunday is dead#she barely knows this man but whatched him have mad moves with her best friend#dried his tears snogged him and pulled a romantic self sacrificial gesture SAVING HER ARSE FROM TORTURE DIMENSION WITH CHULDUR#and then desparatrly tried to convince him to have a healthy mope about it#the heartbreak queen?? the heres a song i wrote for heartbroken sapphic friends??#my QUEEN ruby sunday???
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"but Pyramids of Mars established that Sut-" my friend this is the three-separate-explanations-for-Atlantis show, as far as I'm concerned they can have a free-for-all when it comes to real-world mythology
"but they're ruining the canon!!" buddy I got good news for you, Doctor Who canon is a buffet and you don't have to eat anything you don't want to
#to be clear this is NOT about disliking whatever they're doing with Sutekh#I'm going to try and watch Pyramids of Mars this week and I may hate the direction they choose to go in in the finale! who knows!#I wasn't a fan of a bunch of the choices they made for the Toymaker (though that is slightly different in that it's not a real world myth)#but there's a specific type of comment I've been seeing mostly in youtube comments which. yeah dead dove etc#but people getting worked up over the One True Canon is like. you know what show this is right??#I personally choose to ignore the buffet dish that is the First Doctor in Twice Upon A Time#anyway peace and love#the legend of ruby sunday#the empire of death#pyramids of mars#doctor who#dw spoilers#ramblings
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It's racist, my dear, to be blunt. People come from outside, they think we're all witches and druids. For God's sake, child, you walked into a piece of string!
#dwedit#doctor who#usertennant#userteri#userdiana#usertreena#miatendos#ruby sunday#enid meadows#roger ap gwilliam#*#this whole thing was just so interesting???#like supposedly the fairy circle meant nothing and mad jack is just a story they made up#but then where did the woman (who is definitely real and definitely supernatural in nature) come from.#what was she saying to people to make them afraid of RUBY. SPECIFICALLY.#why did they call her a HERALD to MAD JACK. then she was used to defeat roger. who by complete coincidence is also called mad jack.#(hey you know what else you could call a herald. perhaps... a prelude. maybe even... a harbinger)#how did ruby TURN INTO the woman when she (i have to assume) died of old age#AND MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY. IF OLD DEAD RUBY STOPPED THEM FROM BREAKING THE CIRCLE. WHICH STOPPED EVERYTHING ELSE.#THEN IS ROGER AP GWILLIAM NOT GOING TO REMAIN AS PRIME MINISTER IN 2046?????#or even though that timeline was erased did it still happen Enough for him to... lose? still resign but this time for no reason???#and WHY are we probably NEVER GOING TO GET ANSWERS TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS#AND WHERE THE FUCK WAS THE DOCTOR FOR 70+ YEARS
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AU: The Doctor needs help with Sutekh
#doctor who#dwedit#doctorwhoedit#dw spoilers#fifteenth doctor#ruby sunday#dead boy detectives#dbdedit#deadboydetectivesedit#edwin payne#charles rowland#dead boy detective agency#my edit
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I don't know if I'm excited or frustrated at the 'future children' angle for Susan's origin. On one hand... I'm very interested in the possible links to the likes of Miranda, the Other etc.
On the other hand... ok confession time: This may make me a minority in the fandom, but I actually really dislike the 80s-90s retcons of Susan's origin. (Birth of a Renegade, Lungbarrow etc.)
I kinda just like her and the Doctor being some of the last surviving members of what was once a family on Gallifrey. I find the mystery and tragedy of what happened on Gallifrey, with implied student uprisings and political assassinations, far more intriguing than any twists saying "actually she's not really his granddaughter". Fortunately, some things can be canonwelded into that (eg. Susan really could be also related to the president / descended from Rassilon), but stuff that actually gives her an origin elsewhere is always a pain.
Idk. I just see once being a parent (and losing it all tragically) as such a crucial part of the Doctor's background and Susan fits very well into that as far as I'm concerned. Anything disconnecting her from that, or worse erasing it completely, ultimately damages what I find to be one of the most compelling things about the Doctor and Susan. :/
The few posts I've already seen talking about this suggests this is an unpopular opinion, but I'd be interested to know what people think, and if they agree or disagree...
#Doctor Who#The Legend of Ruby Sunday#Susan Foreman#Doctor Who Spoilers#DW Spoilers#DW Meta#DW Theory#and I guess....#(light)#DW Negativity#like... as much as I love the pseudocanonicity of looms this is one issue I've always had with them#and is part of the reason I much prefer stuff like Penelope and Ulysses#It's just like the Doctor tbh#I love having many different possible origins and mysteries#but the second we start 'canonically' going one way or another you kinda lose me#this is also my issue with the Timeless Child as you're probably tired of hearing from me by now#as a 'possible' origin for the Doctor: genuinely delightful; stunning#as “THE” origin of the Doctor:...nah.#I also never hand an issue with the question of 'where did she come from' 'where are her parents' etc.#they're dead obviously#why they're dead and who they were is the interesting quesion#and part of what makes the Doctor 'Who'
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The entire plotline of The Legend of Ruby Sunday/Empire of Death implies that Sutekh learnt about the "don't blink" rule in Blink and actively chose to ignore it allowing the weeping angels to capture the Tardis, like, what was his plan? What was he thinking?
#doctor who#fifteenth doctor#ncuti gatwa#ruby sunday#millie gibson#dw spoilers#nuwho#doctor who spoilers#dw#tenth doctor#david tennant#rose tyler#billie piper#blink#don't blink#blink and you're dead#weeping angels
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I'm becoming more and more convinced Ruby is going to end the season just fine. And I draw this belief purely from the fact that she's been Road Running her way through falling snowmen, being eaten as a baby, having her whole DNA butterflied, a nuclear war, clinical death, near nuclear war and biological death, interacting with Lindy Pepper-Bean, and matrixing her brain with martial arts off screen.
Just, if you kill her at the end it would feel like Spanish Inquisition getting the hang of people being unbothered by soft cushions.
#like i'm kidding but#the doctor went through believing she's dead twice already. there isn't much to get out of it anymore.#doctor who#ruby sunday#fifteenth doctor#dw spoilers
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i have to say it was a crazy move on russell's part to have ruby go through her own version of turn left/the girl who waited FOUR episodes into knowing the doctor
#that's INSANE I felt so bad for her#my girl has been having a rough time of it#like she had 1 and a half cool fun adventures and even in those she was faced with a terrible monster and also covered in snot#and in the other she was almost eaten as a baby#but then these last three episodes have been like. ruby is terrorised by an eldritch drag queen and shown a devastated alternate version#of her current time where the whole world is dead. ruby almost watches the doctor die and is nearly killed. ruby is abandoned by everyone#haunted by the ghost of herself and dies alone. like she is not having a good time of it 😭😭#I hope the next episodes are a little bit lighter she deserves a good old-fashioned romp every now and then#Ruby Sunday#my post#Doctor Who#dw
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steven moffat repping all writers by being physically unable to write one episode of doctor who without brutally murdering someone important
#so proud poor ruby got to briefly join the ranks of all his other dead companions 😭#lina lore#doctor who#doctor who spoilers#fifteenth doctor#ruby sunday#steven moffat#spoilers#dw spoilers#boom
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i hope ruby gets a well-that’s-alright-then-style notdeath. on the one hand it will make haters mad because oh no not another companion with an impermanent end (and i like to see haters mad) on the other it would require creativity to depict this in a new way + i love all the implications i love the dark fairytale quality of these companion exits i love my un-undead schrodinger’s women
with the way the legend of ruby sunday is titled… legends aren’t usually told about living people. legends are stories of the bygone past, of an age long since over, fictionalised and overgrown with folklore like barnacles sticking to an abandoned shell. there is such a thing as a living legend, but they’re exceedingly rare. the unmistakeable raven’s call in the 73 yards teaser, the trailer’s cut to fifteen crying alone after promising to cherry he���d protect her daughter… the foreshadowing is clear as day…
and yet. there’s one massive HOWEVER. ruby appears in s15: millie’s been spotted on set filming it. which leads me to believe — the doctor isn’t one to take the time travel route and revisit companions that in his future are genuinely dead. that would hurt too much, it would cause unnecessary trauma and could break the timeline. that must mean ruby stays alive in some way. ish. she’s alive and a legend and a mystery. girl-ballad girl-song girl-paradox
here she is, fading out.
p.s.: thesis statement on moffatgirls from the tags i left on somebody else’s post about charley pollard.. well it belongs here since it’s basically the semiotic hurricane swirling around ruby at the moment :)
#on a personal level what interests me about these characters is precisely what gets them labeled as being subject to#misogynistic writing by pop-feminist video-essayists. as an autistic girl* (*ish) however; i find female characters that#aren’t quite ‘normal people’; women who represent an idea or concept or are a puzzle to be solved or a manic pixie dream girl to be#more and in a way far more interesting than a girl-next-door-type universally relatable protagonist#they make for more nuanced stories with more symbolism and more layers of interpretation usually. why should there be realism in a#fantastical narrative? similarly i like characters that are haunting the narrative or dead before it began (big locked tomb fan if you#didn’t know) and like. not to be tvtropes but the lost lenore archetype. dead woman who spurs the hero on to recklessness or revenge.#i identify with that dead girl. the laura palmers of the world. set the story in motion without#necessarily having agency. maybe it’s something to do with my#constant background radiation of passive suicidality. in a fun whimsical way :) i would never kill myself but i don’t want to be a real#person. i want to be objectified but not necessarily in a k*nky s*xual way (that too) in a princess in a tower way#the ultimate femme fantasy innit? there’s something about it. hashtag problematic hashtag conforming to gender roles#10000 tags be upon ye#ruby sunday#millie gibson#doctor who#dw#steven moffat#clara oswald#fifteen#fifteenth doctor#twelveclara#amy pond#charley pollard#river song#donna noble#ncuti gatwa#doctor who meta#jamie.txt#haunting
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I think Ruby has died Almost as many times as Rory Williams, impressive
#dw spoilers#doctor who spoilers#doctor who#gonna go out on a limb and say that shes probs not dead given 'the legend of ruby sunday' has yet to happen#liveblog
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Sutekh's Sexy Adventure
I am truly, truly sorry for this. Doesn't mean I regret it. It's about Sutekh seducing the TARDIS - slightly spoilery for the legend of ruby sunday, sorry!
#the glorious dead#the legend of ruby sunday#wild blue yonder#doctor who#rtd2#doctor who fanfic#dr who fanfic#dw fanfic#fanfiction#thoschei#The Doctor/The Doctor's TARDIS#The Doctor/Sexy#some stuff about the fucked up enslaving of TARDISes#sutekh#dw#dr who#the doctor#the master#doctor who fanfiction#dw fanfiction
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the physic damage that I got when Ruby Sunday said "I was born in 2004"
#dw#the devil's chord#ruby sunday#i have no idea what series number we're labelling this as fam#she was only born a year before dw rebooted the first time!#i am actually dead#doctor who#bbc doctor who#bbc dw#TJN
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Did I like the resolution of the episode ? No, it was obvious. I didn’t expect more tbh.
But I find very interesting those episodes where the central theme is the companion and how they manage without The Doctor being there to save them, because you see how strong and surprising they are, how far they can go without him. How they wait for him but he arrives late or doesn't show up. But they still live their lives and learn to adapt or solve the new problem that plagues them.
I loved Ruby in this episode and how she learned to live after that mysterious woman and her mysterious words took everything from her. She lost her mother to that woman, the Doctor disappeared because he stepped on a fairy circle (bro, start looking at the floor please, next time you'll step on a trap you can't escape from or maybe something disgusting. I don't know but still LOOK AT THE FLOOR!!) and no one agrees to help her. We don't know what convinces people that she's a hopeless case and not to contact her, or how that works! Bc Ruby couldn't hear over the phone what the woman said to Carla, but Kate heard what the woman told the UNIT soldiers, so that's interesting (and will probably never be answered).
She’s a 19 year old girl with no one to go for confort or for help, so she takes matters into her own hands. She’s resilient, she survives. She copes with the fact that the woman won’t go, will follow her forever, no one can get rid of her, and no one can help her. so she learned how TO USE HER TO HER BENEFIT! SHE SAVED EVERYONE FROM THAT MANIAC!
With how the episode was built I expected the end to be bland, to be confusing and to not solve a lot of things. But, it wasn’t bad, it wasn’t the worst episode ever and I loved Ruby bc she’s a sassy, crazy and intelligent woman (ohh I’m in love)
#some paradoxes are just not good#or unsolvable in a good ending#but im a little confused#will this all still happen in the future?#bc the doctor dissapeared but he wasn’t dead like in Turn Left#and the world wasn’t collapsing bc he wasn’t there#so he was still alive ?#where was he ?#idk whatever I’m just rolling with it#I’ll stop questioning paradoxes#doctor who#15th doctor#ruby sunday#73 yards#dw spoilers#doctor who spoilers
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RTD finally got to do the Companion returns to the present to find the villain of the week has destroyed history scene he's been trying to include since he wrote it for Rose in The Unquiet Dead. Good for him.
#doctor who#the fifteenth doctor#fifteenth doctor#the devils chord#ruby sunday#the unquiet dead#ninth doctor#rtd
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