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Why The Ending Sucks
Ok I figured it out. Hear me out:
The entire comic has a running theme best summed up as "who is controlling the narrative, and why are we listening to them?"
Hussie plays a caricaturized version of himself that he describes as "buffoonish" and "oafish". Caricature!Hussie is well-meaning, but a dumb idiot who's incredibly biased in favor of certain characters and in disfavor of others (the most obvious example being his "love" of Vriska, but there's also the way he constantly disparages Eridan). As a result, you have to be VERY SKEPTICAL and VERY CAREFUL when approaching Homestuck's narration, because even when the "best" narrator is at the helm, he's not 100% trustworthy and incapable of giving the readers an unbiased view of the story.
I say "best" because, importantly, Hussie isn't the story's only narrator. He and Doc Scratch explicitly fight over control of the story - Doc Scratch, the child abusing predator who engineered Alternia's fascist murder society, whose shaping of its history is explicitly described by character!Hussie as "fanfic". He is then killed by Lord English, who is described by Hussie as embodying the "toxically masculine" and by extension, the patriarchy, and Caliborn explicitly takes control of the story. John even grapples with Caliborn's version of events, calling out how sexist and misogynistic and shitty it is.
So if we're keeping score: control over the narrative is LITERALLY wrested away from Hussie (who was already struggling to be unbiased) by fascists, abusers, and the patriarchy. It's stressed multiple times that Caliborn/LE are responsible for literally everything that ever happens; the reason the Game Over timeline ends the way that it does is because the alpha timeline is, in essence, the narrative LE is telling: the forces of fascism get to claim the new universe, thereby propogating itself, while friendship dies and all hope is lost.
Who's in control of the narrative, and why are we listening to them?
There are other minor examples of this, too: Aranea is an exposition fairy, and she's biased as fuck and wrong ALL THE TIME about her own teammates. Karkat's explanations and rationalizations are constantly tinged with his own self-loathing and self-blame. Sollux and Meulin are both prophets as per their Mage class, but are both so bogged down by their own emotional issues that the futures they pick out are actively harmful. So on and so on. At nearly every turn, you have to interrogate who's telling the story, what their motivations are, and what they're overlooking or deliberately obfuscating.
So given that this theme is so prevalent, and so thoroughly weighted toward "well, actually, maybe you shouldn't take narration at face value and should interrogate it and come to your own conclusions," it would be Really Weird for the story to go "actually, you can totally trust the narrative now because everyone gets a happy ending".
So, I know that it makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist, but here's my genuine take on Homestuck's ending:
The ending is shitty on purpose because the viewer is intended to take it as a dare to refute the narration and make something better.
Why are we letting character!Hussie tell the story? He's a biased idiot. Why are we letting the various avatars of LE and Caliborn tell the story? They're fascist, misogynistic, predatory assholes.
And - because Homestuck is a story about life - why are we letting idiots, assholes, abusers, and creeps dictate the story of real life? The world is full of forces that would try to take control of the story and make everyone else play along, represented in microcosm within the text of Homestuck. We cannot let those forces win.
So please go out and do something kind and hopeful and loving in the world today. Thanks for reading.
#homestuck#homestuck lore#homestuck analysis#anyway i know that this sounds Crazy but hear me out#Hussie does not drop the act in the book commentaries#which were written after the comic ended#moreover the ending and epilogues are chock full of stuff that really seems designed to piss off as many people as possible#like vriska coming back but having her character development reverted#which upset both vriska haters AND vriska fans#and famously the existence of Yiffany which lowkey fucks up rosemary#but the baffling thing is that in spite of these 'lets make everyone unhappy' moves#we're still getting vital exposition about how the world works (ultimate selfhood) and characters outright saying things like#it confused me for the longest time but looking at this running theme it makes sense#the ending of homestuck is the ending picked out by terezi... who never finished her arc#it's why even though it's LITERALLY the ending she picked out for herself and her friends#shes still unable to be happy in it or feel 'fixed'#because she too is unreliable!!! she can't do it alone!!!!#and bringing back vriska eased her guilt but didnt solve her fundamental issues...#because homestuck kinda can't have a happy ending unless EVERYONE IS THERE
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tim and bernard who break up and it's nothing big, no one cheated or anything. it's just their lifestyles didn't work out well together. tim cannot give up vigilantism currently and bear cannot handle the level of danger tim puts himself in. and on the other hand, tim cannot handle the fact that bear chooses to run into danger as an emt bc he already worries about everything but now he has to worry if he'll find his boyfriend convulsing from fear gas in a random alley but also bear who felt the life drain out of darla cannot stand the thought of not helping people and runs headfirst into dangerous situation after dangerous situation hoping that every person he saves can somehow make up for the fact that he could not save darla.
(he very pointedly does not think about the fact that there was nothing he could do because if he thinks about that, he'll spiral until they have to lock him in arkham too)
and so they break up but they were tim & bernard in high school and when they started dating they balanced out the worst of each other and they became tim&bernard. and everyone who knows them, knows that they're better together but they cant be together, they refuse actually because they cannot lose another person to the violence of gotham and by the time they figure out that they cant work together as long as the other is an emt or vigilante, it's too late for both them. they've already left too many pieces of themselves in each other.
tim still knows what bear means when he says "tim" in that exasperated voice. tim still goes boneless when he hears bear say "baby" in that firm tone. bear can still read tim like a book. he still knows the right way to massage tim's neck so that tim can go to sleep. everyone at the first responders gala knows not to bother ceo drake-wayne and senior emt dowd when they're talking.
(and if they're standing a little too close to each other than what is normal, who are they to judge? everyone knows that dowd and drake-wayne have history)
and if everyone on the night shift has caught red robin with his head tucked into the crook of emt dowd's neck as emt dowd runs a soothing hand up and down the vigilante's back, well then, they just quietly back away.
(after all, dowd's one of like, five, emts that can get the bats to receive medical treatment so if turning a blind eye to whatever the fuck they have going on is what allows them to give back to their heroes, then the night shift will do it every time)
and of course, tim and bear are practical people. they loved (love) each other sure, but when your lives are fundamentally incompatible, well, you cant get too stuck on the what-ifs, that's for sure. and so they do find love with other people and yeah, maybe it's not what they expected love to be when they first fell in love with each other. it's not the bubbly, stomach-swoopy, cant stop grinning, feeling that permeated tim&bernard's early days or the i Know you/you Know me that was their middle or the quiet despair that was their end but it is contentment. and in a life with as many losses as theirs, contentment is something they hold dearly
and they're happy! truly! but sometimes, at galas when they're making each other snort champagne out their noses or in darkened alleyways when their clothes are both stained with blood or at rallies for stricter gun regulations in gotham where they both sit too close to each other, fingers enclosed around each other in a death grip, when the presenters inevitably bring up grieves
(worst school shooting in gotham in decades, there's blood on their hands and blood in their mouths and darla is dead in between both of them and there is a chasm so wide that they are screaming to get their voices across and she will always be dead and maybe this had always been the problem that she is dead and there is no coming back from that and that there is blood on their hands and blood in their mouth and blood on their han-)
but sometimes, most especially on opposite sides of the street, as life pulls them in different directions, just sometimes, they see each other and just for a second, nothing too long, the flap of a hummingbird's wings, the time it takes to blink, an electron's orbital, they look at each other and for the briefest moment, blue on brown, a barely noticeable stutter in their steps, the space between heartbeats, because this is all they will give themselves because they do not dwell on what-ifs or what-could-have-beens, or what-should-have-beens, or delusions of a softer world, their eyes meet and they think to themselves, god, in another life, i would have really liked just doing laundry and taxes with him.
#what the fuck is this#the theme was wistfulness. hopefully that came across right. and like i wanted this to be all 1 text block so you feel how it all collapses#into that 1 thought they have at they end but fuckass tumblr has a 4096??? text limit for a single paragraph???? so here's multiple paragra#anyway here is my middle of the road sad timbern hc. do i think this will happen? no? is this still a fun world to play in? yeah absolutely#also super huge fan of darla haunting the narrative. darla as this chasm they cannot cross. darla as smth they shelter each other from#but also smth like a 2 way blade. it cuts them both. it will never stop cutting them. smth smth the wound will always bleed#also i cannot stress how important it is that they are happy with other people!!! they are both satisfied with other people. it's just that#they have a very specific history and they are the only two people who really know and understand that history#and also it's not that theyre unhappy with their partners but just that smtimes they look at each other and... wonder. in a softer world#maybe i could've been a chef and you could've still been a superhero and we could've still worked out. maybe we would've gotten a boat#together and maybe we could've come home to each other. maybe i could've trusted you to come home to me. maybe you could've#understood my need to help people. maybe we could've held our love as something precious.#maybe in a softer world our love wasn't something that hurt us both.#i need to lay down. im going crazy#as always i do love reading yalls thoughts in the reblogs and replies!!!#bernard dowd#dc#tim drake#timbern#timber
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'I feel like I'm acting. When I'm being a father, when I'm being a friend. When I make something to eat or take a shower. I'm playing a part in a story deep down you know cannot end well.'
Chris Whitaker, from All the Colors of the Dark
#faking it#impostor syndrome#playing a part#acting#artificial#disconnect#doomed#unhappy ending#no happy ending#the worst feeling#quotes#lit#words#excerpts#quote#literature#chris whitaker#all the colors of the dark#recurring theme
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The First Kingdom by bluewinged_songbird (@darling-deerest-dead) Pairing: James/Sirius Rating: T Word Count: 1k Once upon a time, James Potter confesses his love to Sirius Black but is shot down. It takes Sirius a few years too late to realise he feels the same way.
#prongsfoot#prongsfoot fic rec#james/sirius#sirius/james#hp fic rec#rating: t#less than 5k words#marauders era#theme: unrequited love#theme: internalized homophobia#unhappy ending#pining#theme: failed love confession#personal favorite#hp rarepair#hp rare pair#mlm ship#bi character#bisexual james potter#hp rarepair fic rec#hp rare pair fic rec#angst
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I'm starting Mission to Zyxx Season 5 now, and I have feelings about that.
First, it generally scares me when people hype anything up at all because there is no guarantee that anyone values the exact same thing I do to the same degree. Even if I trust the creators of a thing to value something and try to do right by it, that doesn't always necessarily mean it will be successful, especially if that involves doing something wildly different than what made it good in the first place (I have been burned this way before). I guess I'm just hoping they continue the format of goofy improv shenanigans for the majority of it with something more planned and emotional in the finale if they want, like they've been doing all along. I'd think they would, and I've heard nothing bad about the ending, but I guess it still makes me nervous because I'm so close to the end and I want it so badly to stick the landing. I'm setting my expectations on the floor so I can be surprised instead of disappointed, but honestly, I don't need it to be better, I just need it to be on par with the rest.
Second, and more briefly, I'm happy it's (hopefully) ending before it has a chance to decline. I am so on board with that philosophy. But on the other hand, finishing a thing that I really, really like and knowing there's not another one out there gives me a special kind of heartache. Like, I know there will be other good media, and stuff that's good and unique in other ways, but I know for a fact that there are no other podcasts out there that have the same mix of a balance of off-the-wall improv and structured narrative, quality comedy, fantastical sci-fi setting and loveable characters, and high quality production. There are other things out there with many of those qualities, but nothing that checks every one of those boxes. It's a lightning-in-a-bottle thing that very much feels like the right people had to be in the right place at the right time to do it. Attempts to do it again would feel hollow because it had to be born out of necessity and passion and the talents of the people involved, so if you switch out the people it loses the reasons it's great, and if the same people tried to do it again it'd feel tired. That makes me so, so grateful it exists, but also so, so sad that it doesn't, and I'm 80% of the way done. When it's over, it's over.
Anyway. Now that that's all out there, I'm just gonna finish listening and have fun. Wish me luck.
#pickle pontificates#mission to zyxx#if you freaking flip on episode 1 after reading this and are like. wow. they're talking a lot about butts and ejecting people into space.#what is pickle on about#well. sue me i guess. idk#I have a lot of feelings about this as a general topic so this is moreso just the most recent thing that's touched on it for me#okay so time for essay 2 in the tags#1. I don't really talk about TAZ on here but it's something I carry with me whenever I think about this kind of thing#I think that in the same vein as MTZ it started off very goofy and directionless and then gave me more emotions than I thought it would#and it's not perfect but balance was a cultural landmark in a lot of ways#i enjoyed amnesty but it didn't have the same spark. what drew me to balance was all the goofy improvisation#and the fact that it was never serious until it was#amnesty (although i loved the setting/concept and enjoyed the characters) crossed the line into taking things more seriously#and while that's not a bad thing in and of itself the thing i enjoy about the mcelroys is when they're goofing around#that's what they're good at and it's why i like them#subsequent arcs suffered the same thing to varying degrees#i slogged through most of graduation for some reason and although ethersea was better i didn't finish it#taz dracula was the first time i've felt that same kind of fun while listening since balance#and I really think it was because they were just getting silly with it. sure yeah elizabeth the sports druid. lady godwin turns into a hors#whatever!#their dad gets to follow through on his ideas and do whatever crazy but kinda logical thing he comes up with#but i guess the point is that to me taz feels very lightning in a bottle. balance is what it's capable of being but is not the default#all the other right ingredients had to be in the soup#2. noragami. ohh noragami.#you wormed your way deep into my heart and then flopped out of it like a messy slimy dead fish#and i can't even be upset about it because the creators sounded so tired and unhappy with the way it ended#but there was so much potential. so many themes that DID hit hard throughout the story and could've knocked a man out cold#had they come back at the end#and they could have right up until so very close!!! it wasn't unsalvageable#in fact it still isn't. you'd hardly have to revise anything. you'd just have to write a different ending
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I’m so disappointed by My Hero Acadamia’s ending.
#my hero academia#boku no hero academia#mha#bhna#bhna spoilers#mha spoilers#mha ending#I’m so unhappy#I relate to midoryia so much and I don’t think he had a happy ending#It was happy in some way and in others he was punished for doing the right thing#Is THAT the theme?
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gonna take a teeny break from cotl fandom stuff bc its getting a lil too heavy for me
#idk i think its bc i think abt the whole situation regarding canon and my personal lambs canon and i get really sad and fucked up abt it#and since everyones interps are different some are rlly sad and fucked up yknow ( esp the lambs that are more fucked up/morally grey )#not that i dislike dark/heavy themes and unhappy endings or anything#but like it gets to be too much sometimes#not dissing anyones personal interpretation of the canon btw#im not trying to tone police#and its also not strictly tied to fanon bc i think abt the canon stuff and i get really fucked up abt it#so uh expect more psychonauts and maybe trolls stuff if im feeling up to it
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Damn damn damn. The duke Obi-wan ahsoka timetraveler au gutted me, especially how you explained their lifelong heartbreak over their could-have-been. The galaxy gets its happy-ever-after, but they don't.
That being said, is there really no AU where Duke or Prince or King Obi-Wan gets his Jedi soulmate? (That doesn't lead to the Empire rising or Ahsoka resetting the timeline?)
maybe not in the time traveler Ahsoka au butttt i do have a fic where king obi-wan gets his Jedi soulmate with bonus amnesia and intrigue and deception
stay til the dawn i’ll give you sun (rated e, 40k, also feat ahsoka as Most galaxy weary but bestest padawan)
#asks#I think one of the main themes in the time traveler Ahsoka au is#that either every version ends in war because the force is trying to show her that it’s bigger than obikin#or that she’s never going to be satisfied with the outcome and keeps resetting it (like with the duke obiwan au where she resets#because they’re both so unhappy)#but if you want king obiwan and Jedi anakin there’s that fic for you 🥰🥰
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I doubt it was an intentional response or anything hostile like that but it’s really funny to contrast the story of Miles “To be Spiderman is to suffer and never truly feel like you belong” Morales with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles getting to go to high school and join clubs and go to prom
#both are amazing stories#and neither theme was inherently better or whatever#but thought it was a funny parallel#or I guess perpendicular?? lol#tmnt#tmnt mutant mayhem#tmnt spoilers#into the spider verse#across the spiderverse#spiderverse#miles morales#GUH I can’t stop thinking about how nice that ending was i just totally expected the turtles would be unhappy at the end
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i think many people's dissonance with arc-v basically comes down to whether or not you believe that the missed potential of an idea is equable to bad writing.
arc-v is definitely wonky with its themeing and has unexplored potential, but 'unexplored potential' isnt really the same as saying 'this was badly written'
#for as much of a meme as egaoism is#ive always held that the main theme of arc-v is the shows tagline itself 'take a step forward with courage'#yuya is a deeply unhappy and honestly pessimistic person who still makes an effort to be happy despite circumstances#the show may not have handled it 100% well but I will hold that many of the elements are present start to finish#though i am in the camp also that the ending drops the ball in a. very confusing way
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Like I love to criticize jjk as much as the next person but all these really annoying ppl who are saying the series is bad because characters are dying…… 1. Grow up. 2. Why in fresh fucking hell did you EVER think everyone was gonna make it to the end of this series
#I 100% get having issues with HOW characters died#like I’m still pissed about everything regarding yuki’s death#and while I wanted Gojo to die I also wasn’t satisfied with the death we got#but like…. to act like the series is bad BECAUSE these characters are dying and not HOW they’re dying#how are you missing the series core themes…..#how are you missing that the point was that everyone was gonna die#like either yuuji was gonna die to solidify that Gojo and megumi failed#or Gojo and megumi were gonna die so yuuji is cursed to living knowing HE failed#like I just always acknowledged???? that was the direction the series was going?????#so to see people get GENUINELY PISSED that characters are dying and yuuji will almost certainly end the series unhappy….#like I do not know how to tell you that was always gonna be the point…..#and if you thought the series was meant to have an overly happy ending you were NOT paying close enough attention#like it’s not a happy story? it hasn’t been at any point?#why would it END happy it would feel so out of place?#idk it’s just confusing to me#like by all means criticize it the series fucking needs it#but you are complaining about the wrong fucking things#idk this also might be my thing where if ppl genuinely get so attached to characters that you get unreasonably angry when they die#and can’t ackowledge that sometimes it makes more sense narratively for them to die#to the point where you like throw fucking fits about it….#I dunno….. I think you just need to take a step back#or at least know yourself well enough to not get into media where it’s obvious characters are gonna drop like flies 🤷🏼♀️#like I get major character death isn’t for everyone and that’s fine#but if it viscerally upsets you to that point#yeah…. yeah I think you need to take it upon yourself to avoid stories that are obviously gonna contain it like idk#kaz rambles
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And then I finally end it off with some doodles of them… they make me feel things.
#ringmaster doodles#sona art#( they’re very much the theme of. love in the face of the neverending march of time. )#( being immortal and knowing you will outlive the man you love because someone else deemed he unworthy of eternal life. )#( he may still have tens of thousands of years left. sure. but you know that those will go by and he’ll disappear in the blink of an eye. )#( and you’ll sit there on his death bed. wondering why did things end up like this? )#( wondering what you did wrong. and if you could have done something different. you’ll always ask yourself. )#( if he lives a life of happiness and comfort or did he live a life as gruesome and miserable as the wars on earth? but you won’t know. )#( and the more you think about it. the more you realize it. how nihilistic he was. and how he never seemed to smile even in the good times.#he always seemed to have a frown or a scowl on his face. he always seems bothered and unhappy. )#( so you wonder if it was something you did. because you know you aren’t perfect. you’re hardly good. )#( you wonder if he’s mad at you. maybe he was. but he doesn’t have the heart to stay mad. )#( and that’s love in the face of adversity. knowing that no matter how bad it gets. he loves you as you love him. )#( and you wonder why he never smiles. because he truly never does. and so you ask him. honest and true. )#( and he tells you there isn’t anything worth smiling for. nothing in this whole world. )#( but he smiles at you. it’s always small. and it’s always brief. )#( but that smile. that smile means love. )#( that hug. as flimsy as it may be. that hug means love. )#( of course. he isn’t affectionate. if anything. he detests it. he hates physical contact of any kind. you’ve noticed. )#( which is a shame. you love your hugs and your kisses and your hand holding. )#( but even if he doesn’t like it. he lets you do it. because it makes you happy. )#( and you learn that when you’re happy. he’s a little less miserable. )#( of course. not all love is equal. and not all love is fair. )#( the love from a lover and the love from the father can never equate to one another. )#( no one will love you in the same way a father or mother loves you. in the same manner. no one will ever love you the way I do. )#( because my love will remain with you. long after I disappear. )#( and as bitter as the idea of my own existence coming to an end is. knowing I did all of this for. essentially nothing. )#( that I’ve gone through all this pain and suffering and hardship just for it to all amount to nothing. for it to be fucking useless to try.#I get to die knowing that you’ll always love and be loved. and that’s enough for me… )#( … maybe there is something worth smiling for after all. )
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Got a comment on Bathtub Merman over on AO3 this afternoon saying they thought the fic would have a happy ending ☠️
#oops#I feel kind of bad but also I feel like tagging a story as unhappy ending kind of spoils it?#I mean there is a warning at the start for sh and unhealthy themes but maybe that's not enough?
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But also: (via Wikipedia) (source Wikipedia references)
[Vajra] Chandrasekera has stated that "as a scene, science fiction has to be able to fight those battles" concerning how the genre inspires technological development, saying that "you know the Torment Nexus meme? I love it, I enjoy it, but it also elides culpability in a way. It’s like, “oh, we were just warning you against it, we didn’t mean to make it sound cool.” You kind of did, a little bit, mean to make it sound cool."
Some people are like "The classic sci-fi novel Don't Create the Torment Nexus is Problematic because it features the Torment Nexus"
#I’m in the last little bit of his book The Saint of Bright Doors#which everyone said was excellent#and which is indeed excellent#and I’m hella kicking myself for not getting around to it faster#StoryGraph reviews are like. 3 stars it was good until the ending#and I guess it’s possible the ending will be horrible?#but my suspicion is that they’re unhappy with the idea of REDACTED (or possibly REDACTED) despite them having been major themes throughout#(in case you’re concerned: it’s not a story about going through doors to have adventures)
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iterum by moonstruckwytch Pairing: Harry/Draco Rating: M Length: 2k dark magic keeps draco malfoy alive, even when he shouldn't be. unfortunately, to stay that way he's going to have to give something up—something important.
#drarry#drarry fic rec#harry/draco#draco/harry#hp fic rec#rating: m#less than 5k words#horror#established relationship#theme: murder#unhappy ending#magical theory#mlm ship#post hogwarts#post second wizarding war#major character death#dark themes#dark draco malfoy
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sat for the met gala for some reason should just go to sleep but here we are
#from the looks we have seen so far i am unhappy#i liked bad bunny#as always anna serving absolutely nothing#will i be torn apart for saying emma chamberlain looks good#i like it i cant see the details on the dress super well which is pissing me off but#the vine like stuctures on the arms referencing the end of garden of time?#also idk the colour and stuff imply like decay/rot to me which links to the time theme pretty well#without having to have actual flowers on there i think its smart#plus im pretty sure its a recreation of an old jean paul gaultier look which makes sense with the sleeping beauties thing..#like its about looking back in fashion history.. i enjoy it#also i just love lace
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