#the mandated therapy?
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Probably unpopular opinion
I don't think Bakugou should have gotten a redemption arc
#like#what arc#we just got told that he regrets it#that due to society that all he did to Izuku can be brushed aside#that wasn't a redemption arc#that was a new fact of the bnha verse we had to accept as canon#fucker literally only apologized because everyone else was being all emotional#he literally used Izuku's first name when he never asked permission for it#we just got told that hes redeemed in a couple panels#where's the consequences?#the mandated therapy?#the jail time he should have gotten for all his crimes#yes he is a minor and a product of his upbringing#no#this does not excuse him#anti bakugo katsuki#anti bakugou#bnha#deadass Endeavor's redemption arc was way better written
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I think people going about Jon being in the therapist office are forgetting the very important part that they were in a place for court-ordered therapy. We don't have the insane take of a version of Jonathan Sims that seeks help we have a version of Jonathan Sims that somehow commited a crime and was forced by law to finally go to therapy.
#jonmartin#tmagp#tmagp 17#the magnus protocol#tmagp spoilers#the reason darrien calls jon an orchid touching perv is because he is wondering what jon did to be in court mandated therapy with him
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ʏᴏᴜ ᴋɴᴏᴡ, ʀᴇᴀʟ ʀᴀꜱʜɪᴅ, ɪ'ᴍ ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴀᴛ ᴍʏ ᴊᴏʙ. ᴀ ʙʀɪɢʜᴛ ʏᴏᴜɴɢ ʀᴇᴘᴏʀᴛᴇʀ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ᴘᴏɪɴᴛ ᴏꜰ ᴠɪᴇᴡ. ɪɴᴛᴇʀᴠɪᴇᴡᴇᴅ ᴀ ꜰᴀʟʟᴇɴ ᴄᴀᴛʜᴏʟɪᴄ ᴀʀᴄʜʙɪꜱʜᴏᴘ, ꜰᴏᴜʀ ᴇɴʀᴏɴ ᴠɪᴄᴇ ᴘʀᴇꜱɪᴅᴇɴᴛꜱ… ᴀɴᴅ ɪꜰ ᴛʜᴇʏ'ᴠᴇ ɢᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ʜɪᴅᴇ, ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ꜱᴛᴀʀᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ꜱᴏᴍᴇ ᴋɪɴᴅ ᴏꜰ ᴅɪꜱɢᴜɪꜱᴇ.
ɴᴏᴛ ʟɪᴛᴇʀᴀʟʟʏ, ɴᴏᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇ ᴅᴜᴍʙ ʜᴀʟʟᴏᴡᴇᴇɴ ᴄᴏꜱᴛᴜᴍᴇ -- ɢʟᴏᴠᴇꜱ, ᴄᴏɴᴛᴀᴄᴛ ʟᴇɴꜱᴇꜱ -- ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴛᴇʟʟ ᴊᴏᴋᴇꜱ…
ᴛʜᴇʏ'ʀᴇ ᴄʜᴀʀᴍɪɴɢ…
ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇɴ ᴀᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇ ᴄʀɪꜱɪꜱ ᴘᴏɪɴᴛ, ᴡʜᴇɴ ɪ ɢᴇᴛ ᴄʟᴏꜱᴇ, ɪᴛ ᴅʀᴏᴘꜱ ᴀᴡᴀʏ…
ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ꜱᴇᴇ ᴀ ꜰʟᴀꜱʜ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴛʀᴜᴛ��.
#iwtv#interview with the vampire#lestat de lioncourt#daniel molloy#no playing with louis until you've had your court-mandated therapy my lil kooky bitch <3
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Since it came up recently, link to that therapist on twitter 👆 who was discussing Bucky's terribile therapist in TFATWS and how they should’ve been.
Transcript:
"As a therapist myself I've had a lot of feelings about Bucky's therapist on TFatWS, and have decided I need to rant a little to let it all out. I've worked w/active duty, trauma survivors, and court ordered clients, so here's some therapeutic conjecture on Bucky's therapy:
Aesthetically her office and presentation don't fit for someone who has been through the trauma that he’s been through. A client like this would need something non-threatening and safe- the whole vibe is overly formal and official in an office building, not at all therapeutic.
6 months working together she calls him Mr. Barnes and then James-he has identity issues and is struggling with who he is, so I think that one of the 1st things they would have done is figure out what he is comfortable being called, by whom and what that means for him.
He is still full out lying to her about pretty much everything including PTSD sx—I’m not saying clients never lie if they have good therapists, but if after 6 months he still doesn’t feel like he can be truthful at all then they haven’t built any trust/ solid therapeutic rapport
The pen and notebook thing-that’s clearly a trigger for him, there’s no reason to antagonize him and take notes in session like a punishment, it’s a power play on her part and it only emphasizes his lack of control in being forced into therapy (she should know his hx w/notebooks)
The whole little arm motion she made when she said “they need to make sure you don’t…” – that made so much light of what has happened to him, he probably feels like his arm is only good as a weapon and things like that will not help him accept it as part of his body
The rules, UGH the rules—from how they were talking about them clearly not something he actively created for himself, more like directives that he’s been ordered to adhere to—something fed to him and reinforced, feels like a way to sign off on liability only
THE AMENDS—this is probably my biggest issue. Amends are for people who need to take accountability for their actions and the repercussions of those choices. He had NO choice. He was a victim of horrific crimes against him, and framing it in a way that he needs to make up for
the crimes that others used him for is abhorrent. The lack of trauma informed care as astounding in the way it is being framed that he has to atone for sins that weren’t his. Its clearly reinforcing the idea in his head in ep 2 when he says “HYDRA were my people".
NO, HYDRA were your captors. They were not your people. That type of thinking needs to get deconstructed and challenged. He can dedicate himself to bringing good into the world and righting wrongs that happened WITHOUT taking on the responsibility of those actions.
Her whole attitude and demeanor were condescending and demeaning. I know some people have said “I love how she calls him out on his bullshit!” That’s not what I see happening. I call my clients out on their shit all the time—this was not that.
And I can only do that with clients ONCE we’ve built the type of relationship where it’s going to be therapeutic for them to hear it, and it’s done intentionally and with purpose. She just came off shaming and mean because they don’t seem to have any form of therapeutic rapport.
She said “you have no history, no family”- there is no therapeutic reason for that, and she’s wrong. He most likely has family alive (he used current tense when talking about his sister) and he was close to Shuri and TChalla, his history is vital to understanding him
When she said “Look, I know that you have been through a lot, but you’ve got your mind back. You are being pardoned. These are good things. You’re free.”—Yeah this feels really dismissive and like toxic positivity. “I know you’ve been through a lot BUT BE HAPPY!!??”
He certainly doesn’t seem to feel like he’s free (especially having therapy mandated), and you can’t just tell someone they’re free. I felt like she was pretty much just like, “shake it off, look to the future!” which feels really shitty when you’ve experienced excessive trauma.
HELLO breach of confidentiality, just introducing herself to Sam as his therapist and confirming it to Walker and the whole police station, it doesn’t matter if they know he’s in therapy you do not break someone’s privacy like that, he still deserves some control over his tx.
Ordering Sam into a session, NO, he’s not your client and you don’t know him well enough to know if that’s appropriate or if it would be harmful to either, and you haven’t asked your client for his consent to have another person in his session
Forcing a trauma victim who was stripped of his bodily autonomy for 70 years into a physically intimate exercise with a coworker that he’s barely interacted with in the last several months? NOPE, just reinforcing to Bucky she has control over him the way his handlers used to
To me, I think she is more focused on signing off on his psychological eval that he isn't a liability rather than any actual healing or attention to his trauma. This unfortunately isn’t unusual in the military where “mental health treatment” is focused on being mission ready.
They are making sure he’s ready to be an “asset” w/ mandated therapy, which he shouldn’t even be forced to do as part of his pardon because he shouldn’t have needed a pardon at all because he was a victim of horrific war crimes, brainwashing, and dehumanization for 70 years.
I’m just saying, if that was me he would be on my big squishy couch, bright open windows, bowl of Hershey kisses, random fidget toys, and two therapy dogs laying all over him while we work through that trauma and he builds back his identity and finds the calm he wants so badly.
And yes he would probably need someone who would see through his BS, call him out when he needs it, not be overly "touchy feely", but only if he feels safe and there is trust, where he gets to work on what HE wants, not what others think he needs.
Anyway thanks for coming to my TEDTalk, I❤️my work and I think being a therapist on retainer for the Avengers would've been a fucking trip, they all needed a team of mental health professionals at their disposal 24/7 and things would've been so much better🤣
ps. They can be a good therapist and just not be a fit for the client, that happens regularly. We know when to make it part of the conversation and when to refer out. Nothing good is going to come out of a contemptuous therapeutic relationship, mandated or not.
pps. That whole situation and the scene with Zemo was so rough. I can't imagine how much it brought back the violation, humiliation, anger, and helplessness of when he was the WS. I'm just imagining him having a therapist he trusts and being able to process that afterwards 😭😭😭"
#NOTE: THIS IS NOT ME I AM JUST TRANSCRIBING THE TWITTER THREAD#long post#antitfatws#bucky barnes#bucky meta#meta#mcu#mcu meta#dat's me#bucky's recovery meta#medical stuff#bucky's medical stuff#raynor#ref#writing#therapy#tl;dr: bucky is a victim should be in a soft room with therapy dogs and chocolate#also note: this depiction of therapy is NOT a critique because neither the characters nor the narrative calls her out for her crappy therapy#my theory: bucky's nightmares are not memories they are caused by his therapy...#he has to read winter soldier casefiles in order to make the List mandated by the terms of his pardon#(only files could give him the kind of details / intel he is shown as having about eg. yori's son)#he is being forced to cross names off the List (the Rules of his pardon) as monitored by his therapist...#but it's making him worse (giving him nightmares) ...and she knows but dgaf#as usual mcu writers blunder into a 'this would make more sense if the character was actually just hydra' subplot 🙄
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and he thinks he doesn't need therapy
#i don't even have the book yet#but gravity falls was my CHILDHOOD#*grabby hands*#bill cipher#gravity falls#the book of bill#tbob#tbob fanart#tbob spoilers#book of bill spoilers#book of bill#yeah five pebbles is also there he gets mandated therapy too#lol needed someone to fill the extra chair#five pebbles#rw five pebbles#riantart
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Lore goes to therapy!
#star trek#star trek tng#tng#star trek the next generation#the next generation#lore soong#deanna troi#star trek lore#star trek deanna#this is literally based on satire/a caricature of therapy in my textbook so it’s meant to be silly!#I’m just thinking about Lore having Federation mandated counseling sessions#better than being deactivated and disassembled!
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Barnes: We call that a “traumatic experience.”
Barnes, turning to George: Not a “bruh moment.”
Barnes, turning to Lucy: Not “it is what it is.”
Barnes, turning to Lockwood: And DEFINITELY not “oof LMAO.”
Insp.
#it’s not their fault deprac doesn’t mandate or find therapy#lockwood and co#lockwood & co#l&co#anthony lockwood#lucy carlyle#george karim#inspector barnes#locklyle#iron trio
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Genuinely think there should be an AU/fanfic where the party post-canon end up in another time craft bullshit wish and end up back in Dormont except there's past version of themselves also right there so the post-canon party have to like, explain what happens to pre-canon party. The mental image of Post-Canon Siffrin looking at Pre-Canon Siffrin is amazing, imagine the angst but also unhinged levels of OH IM LOOP NOW :D!!! I think it would be sssuuuuuuppppeeerrrrrr funny
#isat#isat spoilers#two hat spoilers#Of a variation#Isat siffrin#in stars and time#isat au#I dunno I just think it would be funny post canon party is like okay time for the wishcraft mandated therapy circle#and pre-canon party is like The Fucking What#IMAGINE!! IMAGINE SIFFRIN HAVING TO EXPLAIN TO A PAST THEM ABOUT THE BULLSHIT THEY DID LMAAOOO#Siffrin is like okay so dont die or make a wish and your good#and everyone else is like SIFFRIN DYING WAS ON THE TABLE????
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My favourite fantasy lately is Kuya kidnapping Eiden and bringing him to a house in the woods to punish him for endangering himself during some adventure. Kuya keeps Eiden in bondage and constantly on edge, teasing and denying him. And Eiden just takes it without asking to be let out, allowing Kuya to vent his fear and frustration, because he's nice like that.
But, at some point, even the strongest little soldiers break, and just when Eiden is about to shatter from all the stress and Kuya's oppressive anxiety, Quincy comes for the rescue. He's the only one who managed to find that little wooden shack in the middle of nowhere (you know, because Kuya's allowed him to), and he comes in and persuades Kuya to relent.
Kuya hasn't even given Eiden any dick in all the (three? four?) days they've been at it, so serious he was about the discipline aspect!
Eiden cries when Kuya finally fucks him, and Quincy makes him spill
this just reminds me of Billowing Wildfire Kuya R2 where eiden saID sO HImself
i would not be surprised if kuya went full speed into an evil edging hostage situation because he doesn't know how to process eiden's mortality
#feesh answer#i don't think even I'M that evil#i wouldn't edge eiden for DAYS...#then again i don't have the lifespan of an ancient fox yokai. i think.#so time passing for kuya must feel very different#(eiden being magically edged in the other room) kuya while doing his nails: huh. has it been 20 minutes already?#IT HAS BEEN 2 DAYS. KUYA LET HIM SPLORT#is there any way the clan members would NOT freak out after seeing eiden disappear for 3-4 days?#by the 1st night of MissingEiden#at least 3 of his wives would be on high alert LOL#unfortunately kuya rly does have those ridiculous powers#if he didn't wanna be found then none of the others would be able to get to him#i guess that's when quincy and rei are hired to sniff him out#rei's prob more lax like. what? the grand idiot's been gone for a day? so what. he's prob just fucking his way thru the clan#and one by one they all go 'he's not with me'#maybe by the 3rd day due to the delay in manual mail delivery#they get the scroll back from dante like 'no eiden is not with me'#and that's when everyone FLIPS OUT and the search goes into high gear#no. no actually i feel like they would all have figured out where eiden was within a day#that many brains.... surely they would be able to tell#or quincy would tattle. very matter of factly.#as in. yeah. i can sense it. old fox is squirreling away somewhere with the little devil#sigh. kuya if you keep this up they're all gonna put u thru mandated fox therapy or smth#you cannot do this every time you get separation anxiety#wait how tf do you spell the kuyaei shipname. is it just kuyaei. kuyei? kyuei? friggni vowels man#nu carnival kuya
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So new Vega audio, right. Heads up this got WAY longer than I meant so uh. Prepare to scroll, I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In advance, I don't even really know when things get posted to youtube time-of-day-wise, so this is probably technically spoiler material, etc etc, and a bit heavily flavored by particular headcanon for the Warden, especially the details of their job.
You work at the Department, your favorite part is psychology-related casework. Sure, the serenity demons have got that corner covered, but you enjoy helping when they're short-handed in between the times you have to do demon-specific tasks like ward maintenance, etc.
You get this fucking file, red flags ALL over it, but you're good at your job, you know how to keep your personal shit separate and not fall for manipulation tactics, but the guy is good. You're also good enough to see through it all, but oh man is he pat.
Shit happens and suddenly you're kidnapped, sort of? And you can see every time he tries to be subtle and nudge you to think one way or another, but he is actually helping you, which yeah, sure that's a manipulation in and of itself, but he's almost nice? You don't agree with a lot of what he says, but there are some points he has that you've had before, but you'll be damned if you're going to let him know that. You can see what he's doing and you're not going to fall for it (maybe that's the problem though, you think you can see it but does that make you overconfident?)
And then when you're finally better he just. Lets you leave. But he gives you an option, and it sounds not only logical, but nice (ah shit did you start to like him? You know he's manipulating you, remember?). So you stick with him. You can leave anytime.
But you don't leave, because maybe you started to forget that he's manipulating you, you saw through it all at the beginning, after all, and there's plenty of evidence that he's not lying about shit going on with that cult.
One day he says he values you, and you immediately think it's a trick, and you can't read his emotions the way he can read yours, but something feels honest about it, and suddenly you believe it when he says you matter, and you like that, you like it a lot, and you think maybe you're a little fucked because you might do anything he asks you to at this point.
And then not even a half hour later something fucking disintegrates him in front of you, which shouldn't have been possible, and it terrifies you and you run. You forget that you can fucking rift away in an instant and you use your fucking feet and sprint, you're so terrified.
Where the fuck are you supposed to go? You ditched your job, even if you were abducted in the first place, do you even have any friends outside of work?
To make things more confusing, some fucking piece of paper materializes out of nowhere for you, and you read it. It feels like a confession, but it's from that bastard so how are you supposed to believe it, and it tells you to just forget him and move on and what the fuck, man, how?
So you read it again, and another couple times, and maybe you end up back at the safe house you had been abducted to at first and you reread it enough that maybe you start to memorize it. And when you finally put it back down to reconsider what you're supposed to do, the thing that killed him suddenly pops in with him alive next to it like he didn't just disintegrate in front of you hours ago.
And he doesn't remember it. He doesn't remember you. He doesn't address you properly, doesn't remember your name and doesn't call you darling. But he does remember? He remembers you but nothing about you? And he begs you to explain what's going on because his memory is about 2000 years old at this point and he doesn't know if there's anyone else that can catch him up.
He's begging, and you don't think this is a trick anymore. For the first time, you're positive he isn't manipulating you, he's pleading.
He asks what your relationship was (good question). You try to hedge and he calls you out. You tell him it's complicated.
What do you mean complicated.
You don't really know how to say "Well, I was your department-appointed therapist of sorts, you abducted me, but then you offered to have me tag along on your mission to save the world and you've manipulated me so much through the whole thing that I can't really tell what was real and what wasn't and then you died in front of me and left me this note that honestly just made it more unclear what we were," so you stick with "You died and left me this note" and hand him the piece of paper you already memorized to read.
And he doesn't just read it to himself, he reads it out loud, so you get to hear the fucking thing in his voice now, and why does he sound so shaken by the request to forget him, does he hate reading that part as much as you did?
He finishes the letter and doesn't understand why you said it was complicated, that made it sound pretty straightforward, why would he have called you darling and dearest and praised you like that if it hadn't been straightforward?
You don't know what else to say, and thank god he drops it, but even though he knows now what he called you he keeps addressing you wrong and you hate it, you're not just an inchoate you're his warden, but he asks if you'll keep helping him and you almost want to say of course you idiot but you just say you will.
Anyway I was very insane about this last night, I don't know if this accurately gets that across, but then again it's about 5 times longer than I meant so maybe that's the insanity.
I've never really been good at putting my reactions into words, it never quite gets across the vibrating flailing aaaaaa feel that my brain goes through, but be assured my brain is vibrating flailing aaaaaa
#re;gjkhalkjghalkjdfh;oahwebdifulawbglerg#redacted audio#redactedverse#redacted vega#redacted warden#redacted asmr#I've listened to it like 5 times help meeeee#it makes me want to write another bit for prickly pear but I'm making no promises#redacted spoilers#oh and brief headcanon to share: I don't think warden knows about Caelum unless Vega has specifically told them at some point#I have a friend who's done court-mandated therapy for folks and the caseworkers do NOT get a lot if any of the details to HOW they got ther#like at most the file probably said “inappropriate manipulation of unpowered humans; turned in by incubus”#because it was the way that vega had that feeding setup going that was the issue#the department wouldn't have cared about him attacking another demon#and if they didn't care it wouldn't have ended up in the paperwork#so in theory there is some potential for a juicy conversation in which warden finds out that he did that#and they can call him out on his bullshit about not wanting to hurt other demons
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I looked at my fanart of War Crimes with Anduin holding himself dying with Chromie, and I decided I wanted to draw more Anduin trauma with dragons...(wip)
#world of warcraft#anduin wrynn#onyxia#Do you think this man has ever had a therapist?#I think hes stubborn and goes to the one required visit he was mandated to go to and tells her hes fine and then stews in it till he dies#He likes to be a therapist he does not like when someone talks therapy at him#at least I headcanon#'none of this matters because ive got work to focus on' twenty years later he sees mawrats in the corners of his eyes still#The moment someone SHOULD be talking therapy at him he runs away and dissappears for three...four....five years? by the end of Dragonflight#bRo dont talk to NOBODY he is NOT letting them know he hallucinates mawrats#anyway i think he focused so hard on his dad being home that he pushed all his onyxia trauma down for it to fester later in his life#Its the snow which beings the snowball that idunno does something later in life who knows#I think too much about a fictional man's mental health and not enough about my own#mayhap a reason he is thy comfort character
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the amount of mental trauma boboiboy has is astounding.
kid has never catch a break since the day he got his power watch, especially with the weight of the whole galaxy on his shoulders, and the amount of times the descendants of the first elemental users have seen boboiboy as their ancestors AND retakka… yikes…
i’m glad he’s deciding to stay on earth for the time being, lord knows he needs it 😭😭😭
he has yet to get the all third stage elementals, and also i would like to see the origins of the others’ powers too. i think it’d be interesting to see where yaya’s, ying’s, gopal’s and fang’s powers came from.
so we’ll see how that pans out (hopefully my boy’s gonna go clock in with the tapops psychiatrist before he does any shenanigans)
can’t wait for boboiboy galaxy season 3~~
#boboiboy#boboiboy galaxy#boboiboy galaxy season 2#i think they should all get mandated therapy sessions#fang too cuz he lost his entire family???#if we want to compare boboiboy to ejen ali its like#they’re both kids who got put into a lot of pressure early on#and most of the time they have trouble controlling their power and handling the responsibility#the difference is that ali got the one thing that made him special stripped away and#while boboiboy is seen as the only one to be able to handle his#lots to unpack here guys#its wild to look into these cartoons i watched growing up through a more mature view#i think i actually enjoy them more now looking at them deeper
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"If you think about it, court-mandated counseling is really just winning a scholarship for free therapy."
-Whumper, probably
#therapy#whumper#its one way to get free therapy#I can think of a lot of ur whumpers out there who could use a little court mandated talk time#whump#whump prompt#psych whump#funny whump#Tag ur whumper who needs court mandated therapy
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Eddie: Therapy? Why would I go to therapy when I have him *looks at Buck* Eddie: Therapy it's expensive and lasts an hour. Eddie: *points at Buck* This is free, lasts 15 min and 45 seconds and all my problems are gone so I can continue with my day with a delicious limp.
#incorrect 911 quotes#incorrect quotes#incorrect buddie#buddie#911 abc#eddie diaz#evan buckley#firehose mandated therapy
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My one desire for this event is that I want the characters to have ptsd from it afterwards. I want to see how Jaiden and Charlie always seem to get a little more nervous with any ex-Soulfire members. I want to see how Phil’s trust in his friends falls after they conform to the Ruling Entities Wishes, I want to see how each member is a little more tense with people who were not on their team. I want to see any repercussions of bad’s bloodlust.
GIVE ME THAT SHIT AND I WILL EAT IT UP
#qsmp purgatory#Qsmp#qsmp badboyhalo#qsmp jaiden#qsmp slimecicle#qsmp philza#bro lay it on me#I don’t want to see they continue their normal lives#I want to see them suffer to go back to normalcy#THEY SHOULD NEED FEDERATION MANDATED THERAPY AFTER PURGATORY#CUZ ANYONE ELSE WOULD#JUST BECAUSE THEIR SINNERS DOESNT MEAN THEY GET TO WALK FREE OF TRAUMA
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Can’t stop thinking about how the universe must know that Martin and Jon belong together on some sort of intrinsic level because seem to find each other in every universe/on every plane of existence, yet also must fucking hate them because they’re never at peace together
#they’re surviving the eyepocalypse together as eldritch creatures then die(?)#they’re trapped in a computer together#they cross paths at court mandated therapy#lol I wonder why Jon has court mandated therapy which crime do we think he got caught committing#the magnus archives#tma#tma podcast#tmagp#the Magnus protocol#tmagp ep 17#Jmart#tma jmart#the dinghy#does anybody still call this ship the dinghy or has that officially died out?
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